Jewellery store in Glasgow robbed: Two Asian men, around 5' 10" to 6' tall, wearing burqas and sunglasses, and carrying handbags, robbed ATAA Jewellers in Glasgow around 4 p.m. on April 4. The robbers threatened the staff with guns and after escaping threw their Muslima clothing away. No one was injured but two female members of store staff were taken by ambulance an infirmary as a precaution.

Hanzala Malik, a Glasgow councillor in whose district the attack took place, said that "If retailers are uncomfortable about customers coming into secured premises and dressed in burkhas, they are perfectly within their rights to deny entry. Banks don't allow people wearing helmets into their premises. … in this day and age if you want to wear that dress and expect to be served, I don't think you should feel hurt if you are not." (April 6, 2009) Apr. 27, 2009 update: Wasting no time, the Muslim owners of ATAA Jewellers have taken steps to ban niqabs from their store

Ikomi:

If it was not truly the teaching of our Lord that women should be properly covered, why do Nuns cover all parts of there body including the hair.

The Christians have adultrated the teachings of our Lord, such that they are now moving towards ordaining gay priest, what was categorically written in the bible as not permissible.

Sarkozy has no perfect moral standing himself to judge what women wear, considering that he married a former model who once posed semi nude.

JeSoul:

Hmm the rest of us must have missed the book, chapter and verse that Jesus taught all women to be completely covered. Please brotha, can you do us a religious service and show us where in the scriptures where this is taught? much obliged.

JeSoul:

As far as I know only 1 major denomination of Christians allow gay leaders. Does this now constitute the billions of christians all around the world 'adulterating' the teachings of Jesus?

JeSoul:

Sarkozy's moral shortcomings is not the point. If the French people - living in their own country - decide by majority to vote ban anything from wine to cheese to dvds to french kissing, it is their perogative and their business. No foreigner has any standing whatsoever to take offense - else go back to your own country. Simple.

oyb:

ROBBERS IN CLERICAL GARB.; Men Disguised as Priest and Nun Hold Up Woman in Jersey City Shop

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9D02EFD8163AE03ABC4B51DFB3668382609EDE


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/2412249.stm

Illegal immigrants 'disguised as nuns'


ergo, ALL religious garb is a security threat outlaw it

The burqa is a prison, it's a straightjacket," Urban Affairs Minister Fadela Amara, herself a practising Muslim who was born in France to Algerian parents, said in an interview in Le Parisien newspaper yesterday.

"It is not a religious insignia but the insignia of a totalitarian political project that advocates inequality between the sexes and which is totally devoid of democracy.
I've been uncomfortable about the burqua question for many years -- but in the end it was a Muslim woman who brought me around to being full-bore against it. Many women in her family wore the burqua and she had become something of a black sheep for rejecting it and deciding to go to college and study science. She was speaking from experience -- not having idle coffee table chat about something she didn't understand.

"But if you asked Muslim women who wear the burqua why, wouldn't they say it's out of sincere religious belief and that they choose it?" I asked her. "Shouldn't they be allowed to make that decision, even if we don't agree with it?"

"Sure," she said. "They should be allowed to do whatever they like. But the truth that most of these women will never tell you is that they would be beaten by their fathers and brothers if they did not wear it. And the 'belief' that makes them wear it is that they are the property of their fathers and husbands, which is what they have been taught from birth. That is what you support when you say it is all right for women to wear the burqua."



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if any religion tried to sell us on the idea that they had to keep their black men in burquas because, after all, that's just their culture -- we would lose our minds. It would be apartheid all over -- but without a viable separate but equal pretense. But when they tell us the women have to be covered in this manner, well, that's just their religion. You have to respect that.

$osisi:

The burqa is a prison, it's a straightjacket," Urban Affairs Minister Fadela Amara, herself a practising Muslim who was born in France to Algerian parents, said in an interview in Le Parisien newspaper yesterday.

"It is not a religious insignia but the insignia of a totalitarian political project that advocates inequality between the sexes and which is totally devoid of democracy."

Ikomi:

Says who?

She has eaten the forbidden fruit. She has been visiting night clubs, how does she know wearing the good old burqa is a prison if she has not tasted the other side.

Infact from today my daugthers would all wear burqa, let me see if those boys would walk them home, at least they wont know who they are talking to. my girls are twins and they've got exactly the same voice.

That is why abortion is an issue, who says prevention is not better than cure.

LoL. Abeg all that is a joke, otherwise someone would jump at me soon. _Tayo-D

Tayo-D:

I can see you just can't get over me . I can take a joke and do not feel offended by this.


Just curious. Wer you also joking when you alluded to the Bible supporting the Burqa?

Ikomi:

I can read you like A B C. So easy.

Ikomi:

Go and read the whole book of Paul's message to the Corinthians, Romans, Colossians, Ephisians, Galatians and Thessalonians.

ElRazur:

Richy, like the iran's authority did with the jews right? Or like Saudi's monarch did with Christianity?

RichyBlacK:

Nna, read my post before you start to misyarn, I take God beg you.

RichyBlacK:

This is really interesting.

This tension will continue between living in the past and living for the future. Historical episodes of these kinds of struggle abound. However, the general trend has always been the relaxation of restrictive laws and attitudes and the embrace of the human spirit to be free.

Religions, all of them, put some form of restriction on the human experience. It is my belief that abiding by these restrictions should not only be a personal matter, but must never infringe upon the fundamental human rights of any individual who does not want to abide by them!

There are many good reasons why the burqa could be outlawed, chief of which is proper identification, not targeted identification of a group, but routine identification. It is common sense to note that the burqa easily gets in the way of proper identification of an individual. Can we use other forms of electromagnetic waves beyond visible light for this identification? See me in the yet-to-be-created Physics Section.

However, outright ban of the burqa in every corner of society is, in my opinion, an infringement of the fundamental human right (freedom to practice ones' religion) of the Muslim women who choose to wear them.

Though major Islamic nations like Saudi-Arabia are among the worst countries in the universe when it comes to respecting the fundamental human rights of individuals, the French do not have descend to the shameful levels of the Saudis.

The protection of the fundamental human rights of the individual must be respected by all institutions, including all governments and all religions.

FBS:

I stick with France on this. Why do you have to cover your face? have you anything to hide?

Kx:

If a muslim in Iran,Saudi Arabia or any of the muslim state is home,she
dresses the muslim way so freely.[/b]If d same person emigrates to the west,still,[b]she dresses the muslim way so freely.

However if a non-muslim from the west is going to a muslim state,
she cannot dress her normal way,she cannot dress freely,i mean,minis,trousers etc because she is not
permited to dress so,simply put its anti host country-muslim- culture.

Na muslims get dis world sef?

Lets all make laws to suit our national interest and culture.

When u are in rome,behave like a roman.
Give unto caesar what belongs to caesar

Kx:

If a muslim in Iran,Saudi Arabia or any of the muslim state is home,she
dresses the muslim way so freely.[/b]If d same person emigrates to the west,still,[b]she dresses the muslim way so freely.

However if a non-muslim from the west is going to a muslim state,
she cannot dress her normal way,she cannot dress freely,i mean,minis,trousers etc because she is not
permited to dress so,simply put its anti host country-muslim- culture.

Na muslims get dis world sef?

Lets all make laws to suit our national interest and culture.

When u are in rome,behave like a roman.
Give unto caesar what belongs to caesar

Ikomi:

I dont know your problem, maybe its lack of exposure, knowledge or that you cant simply read.
Am tired of answering to people who would run in here to post and cant even read.

Kx:

NL Attorney.
You became so defensive with loads of insult on anyone with an opinion different from urs.
"lack of exposure,knowledge,or u simply just cant read".
I wonder why educated attorneys will not make their points without
suffocating constructive dissenting opinions.