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Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by uracocksucker: 5:29pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
lmfao was that a letter to Santa or some goober just having fun? |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by bigval(m): 5:33pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
OP you did your best, but I still maintain my stand on the Nigerian system, let's revert back to true federalism and resource control, watch how local governments with crude oil scout for Investors to come in and build refineries, they tax and use it to develop their places, the North with all their minerals will be forced to buckle down and look for investment to build their place, I believe every part of Nigeria has potentials of being fully independent of the center, harnessing their resources, creating jobs and wealth 2 Likes |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by PassingShot(m): 5:33pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
dukie25:It shows your brain is empty if this is all you can pen down after reading this laudable effort by a fellow human being like you. 4 Likes |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by Nobody: 5:34pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
modath:I am not shocked.... with the level of dummies crawling all around Nairaland begging jamb to dash them 40 mark.... they will never read ..... ever ever. ... even if it is to save their lives. But start one stupid discussion on any crappie and watch them become Internet champions 6 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by Xonology: 5:35pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
Beanhead:forget that, all those things up there are mere rhetorics.. Go to ministry of finance and see a heap of wonderful master plans that we've been preparing for the last 30+ years, and you ask yourself, why is none of this master plan working? The answer is that it's been implemented on a faulty foundation and until we address that, nothing is ever gonna work. |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by upsonn(m): 5:36pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
dukie25: Abiru! |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by Xonology: 5:36pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
bigval:Thank you my brother .. Leave them let them keep lying to themselves.. 1 Like |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by malton: 5:42pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
modath: Madam, na you oh! Hehe.. There's way too much sense in there to not be heard/seen. Femi Adesina might be lurking around; the message could go very far now. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by MightyFortress: 5:47pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
Lovely |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by Mrjo(m): 5:50pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
olafum1:by saying this i wonder where u come from, did u think that nnpc stop refineing for nothing? Pls. Come to nija u wil understand better. |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by Wealthyonos(m): 5:51pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
Did you read how much govt spend in paying past leaders? And the amount states spend on their past leaders too? Bros, no matter how much we make, if corruption is not dealt with, people will still loot and invest the money outside making it dire for the naira to competite with the dollar. |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by heo88(m): 5:57pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
989900: Bros your desire to see an improvement in our currency, and by extension a healthier economy/country is commendable and we could do with more people like you. However some of what you've put down are problematic for a number of reasons (of which I will make as brief as possible). It's a little long but you asked for contributions and I hope you find it a worthwhile read: 1. Nigeria is a heavily-dependent oil country. I am pointing out the obvious but the long and short is that much of the complicity of previous governments, negligence and vested interests at home and abroad have helped to reify Nigeria's position. The SAP (structural adjustment programme), effectively diverted interest from agric and other forms of large-scale manufacturing. As such Nigeria never took the opportunity to industrialise vis-a-vis the more affluent western countries such as UK, France and the US to name some of a few. Now due to the looting of the treasury, Nigeria would need a quick global oil price recovery (think summer 2014 high of $115pb), miraculously rid the country of the boko haram insurgency, rapid and quick infrastructural implementation, industrialise at a record rate to bring about a reduction in the reliance on oil. I hate to sound pessimistic but those factors are highly unlikely, not least because there are global tarrif agreements covering the production of cocoa, sugar and other commodities to name some of a few, which ties the hands of many former colonies, including Nigeria, so even if the aforementioned recovery occurred in record time, they'd be sanctioned if they violate the trade agreements that have largely been in place since 1964. Jamaica and Togo to name some of a few have also suffered as a result. 2. The lack of operational refineries as well known are due not only to domestic neglect, but western complicity which shouldn't be underestimated. Military governments were utilised through subversive means to protect Western interests, and rewarded handsomely, hence why some guys such as IBB to name one of a few, will never be caught up in fraud/criminal charges. Abacha is a notable exception to this because he went off script and started doing his own thing. 3. The reason we import palm oil from Malaysia is due to the aforementioned poor governance. Whilst the previous regimes were busy lining theirs and their cronies pockets, we conceded vital ground. In economic theory it is called comparative advantage (has existed as a theory since circa 1810) which is whereby one country can produce goods more efficiently than another. Malaysia took the opportunity whilst Nigeria was dulling and they will not dull on the sidelines like the opposition in power rangers, and let Nigeria begin to try and recover this lost ground. There are elements who benefit from this importation, both domestically and externally, thus their vested interest(s) will be protected. In sum I don't agree with a US-backed devaluation because we do not produce any commodities or goods which will help mitigate this action. A devaluation will only precipitate potentially uncontrollable inflation; dare I say stagflation where the unemployment rate simultaneously increases rapidly with a soaring inflation rate. If people think they're seeing pepper now, they've not seen anything yet believe me. Ps. Please read below to understand the reason why Nigeria's affected by the dollar/naira divergence and also why pipeline vandalism and other distractions, may in one way or another, still persist... Nigeria was created courtesy of British imperial interests. Due to comparative advantage and the 1944 creation of Bretton Woods institutions: IMF and World Bank, Nigeria, among other countries were always going to be at a global disadvantage. An example of this is that our agric production at the time of the aforementioned institutions being created, counted as British economy production. The fact that this action made the dollar the world reserve currency, also adversely impacts Nigeria up to the present day. The very reason it was created was to reduce the possibility of the European countries, US etc, initiating another world war. Basically their unity is at the expense of Africa's. Another factor that irks the West, is also 1973 oil crisis which messed up their economic growth but contemporaneously benefited OAPEC and Nigeria, resulting in Nigeria's currency, for a time being valued higher than the dollar and sterling concomitantly. Post independence, Nigeria has been ravaged by competition from vested interests, whether 'Nigerians' being complicit in sustaining interests of the west, and/or the West sponsoring the successive brutal military regimes to protect their interests, of which an example can be seen in Shell's complicity in Ken Saro Wiwa's execution. Furthermore, even MKO was targeted because he was on the brink of securing a $250bn reparation package from the west, before his successful, but annulled 1993 election campaign. In sum, Nigeria among others is perpetually kept in its low position because of the legacy (and continued clandestine practices) of western vested interests. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by Senorprinz(m): 5:58pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
@op, you made a lot of good points, abeg make person wey read the post finish help me summarise am, thanks. |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by 989900: 5:58pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
malton: Nice one by the mods. Modath ForTheWin! |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by gabicon: 6:00pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
Our refineries are moribund and they need to be sold if there is to be any chance of product self sufficiency. History backed with Statistics has shown that government can't manage any production facility and we really need to work on policy sustainability cause OBJ sold the refineries n yaradua reversed it, sold to cronies or not the fact is that for the past nine years we have been stagnant, now same person he sold it to is building a refinery with a capacity of 29million litres of fuel daily come 2018. |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by AZeD1(m): 6:01pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
989900:Great post, you are probably my favourite poster on here for now. As for importing petroleum products, a whole industry that includes a cabal has been built around that, it would be very very hard to achieve what you are proposing. I also believes Kachikwu knows this and that's part of what is causing the present fuel crisis. I really don't know about our swap deals but we should be able to get PMS for crude without having to pay( transportation excluded though) |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by 989900: 6:06pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
Xonology: I get your drift, but that will take 4-8 years to achieve (if you factor-in passing a positive bill such as the PIB is taking years to pass, or a 'mere' budget taking a quarter of a year to pass . . . we will all be dead if we are waiting for "true federalism" to happen before moving forward!). OTOH, some states will "suffferrrrrr", actually some states will have to be swallowed back-in by their 'parent-state'. |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by oseiwe(m): 6:07pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
I believe d summary should be "Let there be Light!" |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by wristbangle: 6:10pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
richidinho: For GEJ come and rule us again? |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by signz: 6:11pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
BiafranNigerian: SIMPLE!!! This is not rocket science. Government can't control everything. |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by Xonology: 6:18pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
989900:If we are serious, the president should adopt a "doctrine of necessity" and convere a sovereign national conference where this can adopted.. On some states suffering, it will serve as a motivation to survival ... No state in this country that does not have the capacity to survive, the reason is that we are very lazy and this is caused by the feeding bottle system of government we are running.. But if we continue speaking grammar without addressing the root cause of this problem, I bet by 2030, we will still be here discussing this. |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by 989900: 6:22pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
AZeD1: I agree, it's gon' be hard to take their "feeder" and say goodbye. The cabals need to be re-integrated into the future plans of the gov't; not by bringing in products, but by going into PPP on some government owned facilities like depots, refineries, and pipelines. Either way, they won't have a choice by the time Dangote's refinery starts running. If Singapore (5 million population) with little or no oil, refines over 1 milion barrels/day, and Japan with all the earthquakes and tsunamis refines over 4.5million barrels/day, then we have a problem -- I mean, we should be refining all the 2.2 million barrels that we produce and more -- exporting refined products only. No, we can't even refine a third of the 445,000 barrels that's allocated to NNPC daily -- we threw our country, our lives, our future, our kids future, our prosperity to the dogs (the cabals), we let them own this country and dictate at will, we then go to church to pray for prosperity by proxy a la 'miracles' . . . LoL. Can you imagine Mobil has a 592,000 barrels/day nameplate refinery in Singapore, what do they have in Nigeria? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by frehage: 6:22pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
Natural gas can replace petrol effectively. It doesn't require refining, so no need of refineries. We have it in abundance, and in fact flair it to great economic loss. It can run our cars, and even power our generators, and cook our food in stead of LPG. Some commercial buses in Benin City have been running on natural gas for like 4 years now under a program initiated by the former Petroleum Minister Madueke(Diezani). Nigeria should consider natural gas as a national alternative to importation of petroleum products. 1 Like |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by AZeD1(m): 6:35pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
989900:I believe this is the direction Kachikwu is heading. In recent times, Mobil has been buying up filling stations so I believe Kachikwu wants the oil majors to be players in the downstream sector. As for the cabal, it would be hard for them to change because it means no more free money. 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by SamjohnnyB(m): 6:35pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
GOD BLESS U SIR. DONT MIND HIM, SOME PEOPLE DONT THINK B4 THEY TALK. PassingShot: |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by modath(f): 6:44pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
989900: Naaaah, Mo didn't win nohin.. You bro , are the undisputed champion!!! You came up with this masterpiece without direct quotes from millions of "online resources", major props Mon Frere. So proud!!!l!!!! 1 Like |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by harzhan: 6:46pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
Nice one OP, I like it when solutions are proffered rather than blame games. But I think there's a major chink in this argument which is, this present administration is already doing some of these things you mentioned above. Subsidy has been removed, corruption is being fought to a standstill, partial importation ban, and this administration is trying to get the refineries working(remember the pH refinery was forced to start production before it shut down again). This is where these policies have led us, economic woes that have culminated from the past administration and manifesting in this. The one thing I'll say we need to do within the next 3 months is to generate enough power to at least 15hrs/day average. This will jolt the economy and will have an indirect impact on our fuel consumption by reducing it(the bulk of it is usually to generate electricity). Then these "lofty" goals will begin to seem more attainable. |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by Kelvin0(m): 6:48pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
989900: I am always impressed with pple who share similar positions as mine regarding d way forward for our country. I think u did justice to this topic , kudos, i've mailed u n followed u, pls reply. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by frehage: 6:52pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
989900: Natural gas can replace petrol effectively. It doesn't require refining, so no need of refineries. We have it in abundance, and in fact flair it to great economic loss. It can run our cars, and even power our generators, and cook our food in stead of LPG. Some commercial buses in Benin City have been running on natural gas for like 4 years now under a program initiated by the former Petroleum Minister Madueke(Diezani). Nigeria should consider natural gas as a national alternative to importation of petroleum products. 1 Like |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by Kelvin0(m): 6:55pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
PassingShot:Do u still reply this kinda pple, u of all pple should know that not every comment posted on threads are worth replying, dude is probably looking for cheap likes or hoping to start a brawl with that insensitive statement, u have helped him by replying him sef. |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by nosiebaba(m): 6:57pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
BiafranNigerian:This one na mumu |
Re: The Dollar Vs Naira, Can This Be Done? by nosiebaba(m): 6:59pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
Wow this is the most intelligent article I have read in some years.. Just to add a little.. Besides refine rows another way we can tackle this petroleum problem is by using an alternative to fuel.. That is Natural gas. Cars, trucks, trains and planes etc can run on natural gas.. You can use both just switch to whichever you want to use either fuel or gas.. And the thing is Nigeria has more than a trillion cubic feet reserves of natural gas.. If people take advantage of this alternative then we would have drastically reduced fuel importation. Well that is my little contribution for now.
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