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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:16am On Oct 17
14) The NFF learnt that the Embassy of Nigeria in Tripoli had written, a fortnight earlier, to the authorities in Benghazi that they would want to welcome the Nigeria delegation on arrival. This application was said to have been rejected outright.

This sounds very frightening to me. That means we had no friendly atmosphere before departure.

NFF needs to let us know further steps taken before bundling the players into a plane and flying to a place even our diplomats were not welcomed.

Did the NFF communicate to CAF the situation of things.

There was clearly lapses in the protocol section of the NFF and this must be reviewed.

I hope the CAF team is equipped enough to handle this because it is really delicate.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:21am On Oct 17
16) Many calls were made to higher authorities in Nigeria to apprise them of the situation, and these persons all expressed fears for the safety and security of the team. These fears were real and justified given the plethora of threats thrown by the Libyans on legacy and social media in the days before and after the match in Uyo. At 2am, Captain William Ekong met the NFF President in the company of the NFF General Secretary to inform the President that the team may not be able to go ahead with the match, due to trauma, fatigue and body aches that resulted from lack of food, dehydration and very cruel and unimaginable treatment, which had led to some players falling ill.

This also screams negligence. The NFF needs to also hold themselves accountable for lapses on their end. There was a total breakdown of communication and our off field preparatory strategy seems sour.

I hope next time justified fears should be addressed and diplomatic solution rendered before embarking on such trip.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 11:22am On Oct 17
If anybody here has access to the Nigerian Supporters Club, pls i think it is time you make them aware that we're no longer in the 90s and that they need to add modern ideas to their representation all over.

Let them add new, fresh air stuff(gestures, solidarity, unifying choreography) to their entire package. Dem still dey use "he's a miracle working God" till now. Since i was born........
I've not heard any new tune from the band. The NSC don't have moves to make other fans to do gestures together. See fans elsewhere having one leader in front and everyone does what that leader do. From claps to chants to synchronized moves that overall adds ginger to their players on the pitch.


I can boldly say there's some level of disconnect between the fans and most of the players. That needs to change. It needs to be SEEN as well. Fans build atmosphere before games that gives 2 teams goosebumps as they exit the tunnels. That is lacking with ours.


The tunes may not be dumped anytime soon(we too dey shout Change is constant, but we go use time meant for change deliberating on if things should be changed)



Im personally bored whenever i hear those tunes. They don't foster or ginger unity as much as an individual display on the pitch(eh eh eh, oooohhhhhhhh) when a player dribbles.


Abeg. If you sabi anybody wey sabi person wey know what to do to bring fresh air to supporting, allow.


N:B i hope their so called court matter over warring factions is over.

undecided
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 11:22am On Oct 17
This issue can be narrowed down to three root causes

1. The Libyan team did not know that flying to Uyo would require special clearances and thus did not make any enquiries for that

2. NFF failed to ensure that the Libyan team would get clearance to land in Uyo

3. Both happened together.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by aicon4s: 11:24am On Oct 17

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgf5xVxO_a0

Watch the lamentation by this Ghanaian football analyst.
Abeg I no wan laugh alone grin grin grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:26am On Oct 17
17) The NFF repeated calls to officials of the Confederation of African Football, Nigeria’s FIFA Council Member Mr. Amaju Melvin Pinnick and higher authorities in Nigeria. It dispatched a letter to CAF in which it detailed the antics of the hosts and hoped that the continental governing body would go ahead to “punish this rare bestiality visited on the beautiful game.” It noted that the Super Eagles had traveled hoping to enjoy a great game of football but had been sorely disappointed and frustrated by the unprecedented level of hostility and poor attitude of the hosts.

This actually should have happened before we embarked on the trip to quell "anticipated shocks" and also address the grievances of the Libyans. We should have given a better narrative to the Libyan people before the trip.

I still hammer on Protocol. Collaborative work is key and fears should always be addressed.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:29am On Oct 17
JohnBullMySon:
This issue can be narrowed down to three root causes

1. The Libyan team did not know that flying to Uyo would require special clearances and thus did not make any enquiries for that

2. NFF failed to ensure that the Libyan team would get clearance to land in Uyo

3. Both happened together.

Thank you very much. I think I should add keeping the foreign affairs Ministry in the dark. All this independent talk of the NFF is not factual. When the problem started, Amb. Tuggar was thrown into the deep end.

Briefing should have been done earlier and gaps closed.

Fact is that there was lapses in our protocol from the planning. The NFF needs to review their Protocol team process.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 11:33am On Oct 17
JohnBullMySon:


Are you saying that NFF did not know the time they were arriving cos I read somewhere here that NFF officials were at Uyo Airport?

That means the nff was in the dark about their arrival, remember they were mid air when it was gathered they were landing in ph
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MrSamsung(m): 11:34am On Oct 17
JohnBullMySon:


Yes two different scenarios but its still the same point.

Uyo is not an international airport and thus Libya didn't even get a special permit to start with. They have stated that they asked for a permit and their permit was rejected

Tripoli on the other hand is a regular international airport. You don't need special clearance. However, they manipulated their way to get their FAA to divert the flight.

Yes the North Africans are vindictive but saying that initially Libya planned to hurt themselves in order to hurt us is what I would call a long spoon argument. No matter how stupid people are, nobody thinks like that. Especially when we have not clarified why the landing permit was not secured. Or have we?

My theory as said before is that because of the bureaucracy involved in getting the Uyo permit, there was a miscommunication somewhere in Nigeria that led NCAA not to approve the Libyan flight, which triggered all these nonsense. I don't believe it was planned, but rather negligence.

Leave that Uyo is not an international airport crap, ok.
Ghanaians have landed there, Benin Republic players have landed there, South Africans have landed there, international football clubs have landed there, even this Libya has been there before, the airport even has straight landing routes and right to Accra and Banjul.

Even if it were not international, can Nigeria not give Libya landing clearance to Uyo just to make it closer and easier for them? And Nigeria did!
Also going by your 'not international Airport' analogy, the dead airport that the Libyans re-routed Nigeria to is it international?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 11:35am On Oct 17
JohnBullMySon:
This issue can be narrowed down to three root causes

1. The Libyan team did not know that flying to Uyo would require special clearances and thus did not make any enquiries for that

2. NFF failed to ensure that the Libyan team would get clearance to land in Uyo

3. Both happened together.

Well done 👏 spokesmen for the Libyan defence team. Kudos

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 11:36am On Oct 17
JohnBullMySon:
This issue can be narrowed down to three root causes

1. The Libyan team did not know that flying to Uyo would require special clearances and thus did not make any enquiries for that

2. NFF failed to ensure that the Libyan team would get clearance to land in Uyo

3. Both happened together.
common sense would dictate that the visiting team would furnish the home team with flight plans before hand right?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:36am On Oct 17
MrSamsung:


Leave that Uyo is not an international airport crap, ok.
Ghanaians have landed there, Benin Republic players have landed there, South Africans have landed there, international football clubs have landed there, even this Libya has been there before, the airport even has straight landing routes and right to Accra and Banjul.

Even if it were not international, can Nigeria not give Libya landing clearance to Uyo just to make it closer and easier for them? And Nigeria did!
Also going by your 'not international Airport' analogy, the dead airport that the Libyans re-routed Nigeria to is it international?

The clearance came after departure. This need to be cleared. It should also have been made public before the departure of our players.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 11:37am On Oct 17
MrSamsung:


Leave that Uyo is not an international airport crap, ok.
Ghanaians have landed there, Benin Republic players have landed there, South Africans have landed there, international football clubs have landed there, even this Libya has been there before, the airport even has straight landing routes and right to Accra and Banjul.

Even if it were not international, can Nigeria not give Libya landing clearance to Uyo just to make it closer and easier for them? And Nigeria did!
Also going by your 'not international Airport' analogy, the dead airport that the Libyans re-routed Nigeria to is it international?

Just leave them with their dirty work on trying to blame the nff for the mishap in Libya. It’s indeed a shame

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lovewins: 11:41am On Oct 17
TheGoodJoe:


I never said we were supposed to. That is why I used the term "help convey". So I am wondering why we could not help and the protocol procedure when it comes to receiving teams. Could we not support the extra cost of the charter? Also what was the reason for the rejection of our buses.

Visiting teams are largely responsible for the cost of their own welfare, including transportation, hotel accomodation etc. While being a good host may mean providing needed logistical support like security, buses to and fro visiting team's hotel and the stadium/airport, it doesn't include bearing the flight cost of the visitors.

Do you even know what it will cost the NFF to transport the entire Libyan team by air from PH to Uyo? For context, a small private jet from Lagos to Abuja cost an average of $30k, so we could speculate that an aircraft then size of what will be needed to move the Libyan team and crew by air should cost average $50k. Where exactly is the NFF supposed to get that from? Same NFF that has had to cut down cost significantly and have assistant coaches get paid allowances per game? How exactly should that be their burden to carry?

Reason for the rejection of the bus? I already explained in my earlier post on what I feel could be the most plausible reason. North Africans have trust issues, especially when it comes to playing in west Africa. So they as much as possible want to be in charge of their entire logistical needs. I referenced how Morocco went as far as bringing the mattresses they were to sleep on in Cameroon to bringing in stand in hotel staff to man the hotel they were to stay and excuse the host Cameroonian staff who were available. it isn't far fetched that they'll want to get their own bus themselves.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lovewins: 11:47am On Oct 17
JohnBullMySon:
This issue can be narrowed down to three root causes

1. The Libyan team did not know that flying to Uyo would require special clearances and thus did not make any enquiries for that

2. NFF failed to ensure that the Libyan team would get clearance to land in Uyo

3. Both happened together.

1. Point one presupposes that they intended to fly to Uyo after landing in PH. Cause even if we concede that they thought they didn't need a special clearance to travel to Uyo, it would mean they had plans to fly to Uyo after getting to PH right? So why then did they refuse said option after they were giving clearance to do so? You see how this doesn't fly?

2. The NFF didn't fail to get them clearance. Not even the Libyan team is alleging that. They didn't keep the NFF abreast of their travelling plans and only informed them hours after takeoff. This same Libyan FF has flown directly to Uyo for a club football game so ignorance can't be an excuse.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:47am On Oct 17
lovewins:


Visiting teams are largely responsible for the cost of their own welfare, including transportation, hotel accomodation etc. While being a good host may mean providing needed logistical support like security, buses to and fro visiting team's hotel and the stadium/airport, it doesn't include bearing the flight cost of the visitors.

Do you even know what it will cost the NFF to transport the entire Libyan team by air from PH to Uyo? For context, a small private jet from Lagos to Abuja cost an average of $30k, so we could speculate that an aircraft then size of what will be needed to move the Libyan team and crew by air should cost average $50k. Where exactly is the NFF supposed to get that from? Same NFF that has had to cut down cost significantly and have assistant coaches get paid allowances per game? How exactly should that be their burden to carry?

Reason for the rejection of the bus? I already explained in my earlier post on what I feel could be the most plausible reason. North Africans have trust issues, especially when it comes to playing in west Africa. So they as much as possible want to be in charge of their entire logistical needs. I referenced how Morocco went as far as bringing the mattresses they were to sleep on in Cameroon to bringing in stand in hotel staff to man the hotel they were to stay and excuse the host Cameroonian staff who were available. it isn't far fetched that they'll want to get their own bus themselves.

Nice.

However, I am pointing about the protocol team of the NFF. If they could not get the money for instance, did they "TRY TO" reach out to people to get alternative support. The NFF should have done so and filled in the Libyans on it. This should have made the correspondence notes. If they couldn't, they earlier requested for buses. If they had trust issues, I don't think they would have made the request earlier.

As for rejecting the buses, the NFF also needs to elucidate us on this. What was their reason of denial when one fo their grievances is us not providing good buses. Was it also a charter issue. If it was, it should be cleared.

We need facts, not assumptions.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:53am On Oct 17
lovewins:


1. Point one presupposes that they intended to fly to Uyo after landing in PH. Cause even if we concede that they thought they didn't need a special clearance to travel to Uyo, it would mean they had plans to fly to Uyo after getting to PH right? So why then did they refuse said option after they were giving clearance to do so? You see how this doesn't fly?

2. The NFF didn't fail to get them clearance. Not even the Libyan team is alleging that. They didn't keep the NFF abreast of their travelling plans and only informed them hours after takeoff. This same Libyan FF has flown directly to Uyo for a club football game so ignorance can't be an excuse.

The NFF man in the video interview made it clear that they were not aware of the lack of clearance for the Libyans to land at Uyo. That is coming from the NFF.

Teams have been landing because they have been getting clearance.

The NFF must address the grievances of the Libyan football federation and sort it out. I don't believe the Libyans messed up and are feeling aggrieved.

The fact is that the full details is not clear. But the narrative of the Libyans choosing to land in Port Harcourt instead of Uyo is now clearly false.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:55am On Oct 17
With the Eastern Government of Libya announcing us apologizing publicly and the Ministry of foreign affairs denying it, I hope no Nigerian team flies to Benghazi until this is sorted out and a message on resolving this issue is released by the Libyan and Nigerian government.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 12:07pm On Oct 17
TheGoodJoe:


The NFF man in the video interview made it clear that they were not aware of the lack of clearance for the Libyans to land at Uyo. That is coming from the NFF.

Teams have been landing because they have been getting clearance.

The NFF must address the grievances of the Libyan football federation and sort it out. I don't believe the Libyans messed up and are feeling aggrieved.

The fact is that the full details is not clear. But the narrative of the Libyans choosing to land in Port Harcourt instead of Uyo is now clearly false.
nff were not aware because the LFF did not inform them ahead so why are you hellbent on blaming the nff
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:10pm On Oct 17
Amedino99:
nff were not aware because the LFF did not inform them ahead so why are you hellbent on blaming the nff

Sort the grievances out. Address why the LFF feel we treated th badly.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lovewins: 12:15pm On Oct 17
TheGoodJoe:


The NFF man in the video interview made it clear that they were not aware of the lack of clearance for the Libyans to land at Uyo. That is coming from the NFF.

Teams have been landing because they have been getting clearance.

The NFF must address the grievances of the Libyan football federation and sort it out. I don't believe the Libyans messed up and are feeling aggrieved.

The fact is that the full details is not clear. But the narrative of the Libyans choosing to land in Port Harcourt instead of Uyo is now clearly false.

If teams have been getting Uyo clearance (including the Libyans), it already shows getting a clearance isn't the problem. The NFF were not aware because they were not carried along. Let's assume the Libyans encountered difficulties like they claim, did they reach out to the NFF in earnest to get this sorted? They obviously got the PH clearance at least a day prior so that could have been easily sorted since the NFF got them the Uyo clearance within hours of notice.

So the issue here is the Libyans didn't carry the NFF along. And like I posited earlier, it's possible they did this intentionally because they needed legitimacy for how they intended to treat the super eagles.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 12:18pm On Oct 17
MrSamsung:


Leave that Uyo is not an international airport crap, ok.
Ghanaians have landed there, Benin Republic players have landed there, South Africans have landed there, international football clubs have landed there, even this Libya has been there before, the airport even has straight landing routes and right to Accra and Banjul.

Even if it were not international, can Nigeria not give Libya landing clearance to Uyo just to make it closer and easier for them? And Nigeria did!
Also going by your 'not international Airport' analogy, the dead airport that the Libyans re-routed Nigeria to is it international?

How many times do I need to repeat it for some of you to comprehend such a simple thing?

Read my previous comments. Uyo is not an NCAA classed entry point. There is no regular scheduled international flight to Uyo. Any foreign flights will need special permission and special arrangement which is a bureaucratic ladder.

Read before responding abeg.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lovewins: 12:18pm On Oct 17
CAF Announces Final Shortlist For Men’s Player Of The Year Award.

1. Ademola Lookman. 🇳🇬
Nigerian & Atalanta Attacker.

2. Victor Boniface. 🇳🇬
Nigeria & Bayern Leverkusen Striker.

3. Brahim Diaz. 🇲🇦
Moroccan & Real Madrid Playmaker.

Just saw this on Twitter. How true is this story?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lovewins: 12:20pm On Oct 17
JohnBullMySon:


How many times do I need to repeat it for some of you to comprehend such a simple thing?

Read my previous comments. Uyo is not an NCAA classed entry point. There is no regular scheduled international flight to Uyo. Any foreign flights will need special permission and special arrangement which is a bureaucratic ladder.

Read before responding abeg.

A bureaucratic ladder none of the other team had a problem with including 2 clubs from the very same Libya?

I think that's the point he's making.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Unlimited22: 12:20pm On Oct 17
lovewins:
CAF Announces Final Shortlist For Men’s Player Of The Year Award.

1. Ademola Lookman. 🇳🇬
Nigerian & Atalanta Attacker.

2. Victor Boniface. 🇳🇬
Nigeria & Bayern Leverkusen Striker.

3. Brahim Diaz. 🇲🇦
Moroccan & Real Madrid Playmaker.
They're going to rig this thing for this Moroccan, aren't they?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lovewins: 12:21pm On Oct 17
Unlimited22:

They're going to rig this thing for this Moroccan, aren't they?

Not even confirmed the story. Still checking for other sources.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SamueItem337(m): 12:24pm On Oct 17
lovewins:
CAF Announces Final Shortlist For Men’s Player Of The Year Award.

1. Ademola Lookman. 🇳🇬
Nigerian & Atalanta Attacker.

2. Victor Boniface. 🇳🇬
Nigeria & Bayern Leverkusen Striker.

3. Brahim Diaz. 🇲🇦
Moroccan & Real Madrid Playmaker.

Just saw this on Twitter. How true is this story?
Fake
Them never even drop nominees

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 12:24pm On Oct 17
lovewins:


1. Point one presupposes that they intended to fly to Uyo after landing in PH. Cause even if we concede that they thought they didn't need a special clearance to travel to Uyo, it would mean they had plans to fly to Uyo after getting to PH right? So why then did they refuse said option after they were giving clearance to do so? You see how this doesn't fly?

2. The NFF didn't fail to get them clearance. Not even the Libyan team is alleging that. They didn't keep the NFF abreast of their travelling plans and only informed them hours after takeoff. This same Libyan FF has flown directly to Uyo for a club football game so ignorance can't be an excuse.

You did not understand the point.

Point one means that the flight crew mistook it to be an international airport. It is a healthy assumption to say that Libyan officals themselves may not be aware of aviation details. It is up to the NFF who have done these in the past to ensure they secure customs and immmigration to give approval.

As for point two, the NFF communications director has already stated that they were not aware that the Libyan FA did not have clearance until they were informed that their landing permit was not approved by NCAA. But they knew that they were coming so they sent their officials to Uyo.

As for the bolded, you cannot expect Libya, a visitor, to be the ones petitioning Customs, Immigration and DSS for special arrangements at uyo. What then is the job of the host?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 12:31pm On Oct 17
lovewins:


A bureaucratic ladder none of the other team had a problem with including 2 clubs from the very same Libya?

I think that's the point he's making.

I have said to you here before that you like to argue before you read. I wrote here earlier that I feel like due to the long bureaucracy, miscommunication or negligence occurred midway. How is that too difficult to understand?

I can bet you that Nigerian officials are the ones making those arrangements with federal agencies. NCAA must hear from the feds before they approve any non scheduled international flight to a non international airport.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 12:38pm On Oct 17
Goke7:


That means the nff was in the dark about their arrival, remember they were mid air when it was gathered they were landing in ph

According to NFF, they were told Uyo. Which aligns with Libyas intent to arrive at Uyo.

This is how things should flow normally

Libya FA tells NFF of Uyo arrival

NFF tells Customs, Immigration, DSS to make arrangements

Customs, Immigration, DSS tell NCAA to approve permit

somewhere in the bolded something went wrong
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 12:48pm On Oct 17
JohnBullMySon:


US soccer president doesn't fly around with the team. US doesn't have deputy governors. It's called Lieutenant governor which isn't exactly the same as deputy governor.

No government official flies around with the US sport teams. For several reasons. It is near impossible.

So I cannot imagine this sorry.
Bye
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 12:53pm On Oct 17
JohnBullMySon:


According to NFF, they were told Uyo. Which aligns with Libyas intent to arrive at Uyo.

This is how things should flow normally

Libya FA tells NFF of Uyo arrival

NFF tells Customs, Immigration, DSS to make arrangements

Customs, Immigration, DSS tell NCAA to approve permit

somewhere in the bolded something went wrong

I see what you’re trying to do to absolve the Libyans of their travel plan into Nigeria.

The fact that previous visiting teams including from Libya had landed in Uyo safely before presupposes that the nff can never intentionally maltreat the team and it’s unfair for anyone to continue to accuse the nff of whatever befell the Libyans in Nigeria. Whatever went wrong, let the pilot who flew the Libyans into Nigeria also narrate his story. If not the Libyans have no case.

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