Compiled by Abuzola



[[Crucifixion of Jesus and the thieves|| first this is an insulf for god to die with thieves lmao or son of god to die with thieves, what kind of father is God, verily must be an evil father.

THE BIBLE REVISED STANDARD VERSION

Luke 23:39
'One of the criminals who were hanged railed at him, saying 'Are you not the christ ? Save yourself and us !'
Hilarious



((((JESUS GOING TO PARADISE ! When did he go to heaven or paradise)))) Lets find out:

Luke 23:43
'And He said to him (i.e the thief) 'Truly, i say to you, today you will be with me in paradise'

Note: on that very day jesus will go to paradise.


AFTER TWO DAYS

John 20:17
'jesus said to her 'Do not hold me, for i have not yet ascended to the father, but go to my brethren and say to them, I am ascending to my father, and your father, to my God and your God'


*note* After two days and two nights, when mary magdalene saw him after being resurrected, he told her that he has not been to the father, clearly stating paradise or heaven and eventually confessing he has a God.






Quran 4:82
'Do they not then consider the Quran carefully ? Had it been from other than God, they would surely have found therein many contradiction'


i challenge everyone to refute this claim by quoting the full verse if you want to refute like i did

WHY THE KORAN IS BOLLOCKS

Allah says the sun rotates like the moon

Quran 31: 29 Seest thou not that Allah merges Night into Day and He merges Day into Night; That He has subjected the sun and moon (to His law), each running its course for a term (time) appointed.

Quran 21: 33 It is He who created The Night and Day, And the Sun and Moon; each of them Swim (float) along in its own course.

Allah says the earth is flat

Quran 15: 19 And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon Mountains firm and immovable;

Quran 78: 6-7 Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse, And the mountains as pegs (anchor)?

Allah needs basic lessons in integrated science.

You have problem with English, nowhere support your spurious lie

The Crucifixion Of Jesus?. It was a Cruci-FICTION.

Thank you very much. The christians reject this as a fact,

I invite you all to Islam, don't waste your time on earth and die uselessness, prepare yourself for paradise, the everlasting abode

@abuzola, why did you dodge that verse, you know its a big contradiction, the sun and the moon is stable, and the earth is not like a carpet

I didn't dodge anything, the sun and moon run in its due course, what do you understand by run ? Just like saying i want to run a business and not literally what you think.
The spreading of the earth like carpet means making the earth covered in its right proportion, when the picture of earth was snap by astronaut the whole earth appear in a single blue colour. Is up to you to use ur brain

The death/crucification of Jesus was not an imagined event as Abuzola and co may wish. Here are evidences from non-Biblical writings of those days to support this:

Cornelius Tacitus (55-120 AD), "the greatest historian" of ancient Rome:

"Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind. Mockery of every sort was added to their deaths. Covered with the skins of beasts, they were torn by dogs and perished, or were nailed to crosses, or were doomed to the flames and burnt, to serve as a nightly illumination, when daylight had expired. Nero offered his gardens for the spectacle, and was exhibiting a show in the circus, while he mingled with the people in the dress of a charioteer or stood aloft on a car. Hence, even for criminals who deserved extreme and exemplary punishment, there arose a feeling of compassion; for it was not, as it seemed, for the public good, but to glut one man's cruelty, that they were being destroyed."




Gaius Suetonius Tranquillas, chief secretary of Emperor Hadrian (117-138 AD):

"Because the Jews of Rome caused continous disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus, [Claudius] expelled them from the city."

"After the great fire at Rome [during Nero's reign] , Punishments were also inflicted on the Christians, a sect professing a new and mischievous religious belief."

Further non-Biblical evidences:

Flavius Josephus (37-97 AD), court historian for Emperor Vespasian:

"At this time there was a wise man who was called Jesus. And his conduct was good and he was known to be virtuous. And many people from among the Jews and other nations became his disciples. Pilate condemned him to be crucified and to die. And those who had become his disciples did not abandon his discipleship. They reported that he had appeared to them three days after his crucifixion and that he was alive; accordingly, he was perhaps the messiah concerning whom the prophets have recounted wonders." (Arabic translation)




Julius Africanus, writing around 221 AD, found a reference in the writings of Thallus, who wrote a history of the Eastern Mediterranean around 52 AD, which dealt with the darkness that covered the land during Jesus's crucifixion:

"Thallus, in the third book of his histories, explains away the darkness as an eclipse of the sun--unreasonably, as it seems to me." [A solar eclipse could not take place during a full moon, as was the case during Passover season.]




Pliny the Younger, Roman governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor around 112 AD:

"[The Christians] were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food--but food of an ordinary and innocent kind." Pliny added that Christianity attracted persons of all societal ranks, all ages, both sexes, and from both the city and the country. Late in his letter to Emperor Trajan, Pliny refers to the teachings of Jesus and his followers as excessive and contagious superstition.




Emperor Trajan, in reply to Pliny:

"The method you have pursued, my dear Pliny, in sifting the cases of those denounced to you as Christians is extremely proper. It is not possible to lay down any general rule which can be applied as the fixed standard in all cases of this nature. No search should be made for these people; when they are denounced and found guilty they must be punished; with the restriction, however, that when the party denies himself to be a Christian, and shall give proof that he is not (that is, by adoring our gods) he shall be pardoned on the ground of repentance, even though he may have formerly incurred suspicion. Informations without the accuser's name subscribed must not be admitted in evidence against anyone, as it is introducing a very dangerous precedent, and by no means agreeable to the spirit of the age."

Emporer Hadrian (117-138 AD), in a letter to Minucius Fundanus, the Asian proconsul:

"I do not wish, therefore, that the matter should be passed by without examination, so that these men may neither be harassed, nor opportunity of malicious proceedings be offered to informers. If, therefore, the provincials can clearly evince their charges against the Christians, so as to answer before the tribunal, let them pursue this course only, but not by mere petitions, and mere outcries against the Christians. For it is far more proper, if anyone would bring an accusation, that you should examine it." Hadrian further explained that if Christians were found guilty they should be judged "according to the heinousness of the crime." If the accusers were only slandering the believers, then those who inaccurately made the charges were to be punished.




The Jewish Talmud, compiled between 70 and 200 AD:

"On the eve of the Passover Yeshu was hanged. For forty days before the execution took place, a herald went forth and cried, 'He is going forth to be stoned because he has practised sorcery and enticed Israel to apostacy. Anyone who can say anything in his favour, let him come forward and plead on his behalf.' But since nothing was brought forward in his favour he was hanged on the eve of the Passover."

[Another early reference in the Talmud speaks of five of Jesus's disciples and recounts their standing before judges who make individual decisions about each one, deciding that they should be executed. However, no actual deaths are recorded.]

Here are evidences from non-Biblical writings of those days to support this:

Cornelius Tacitus (55-120 AD), "the greatest historian" of ancient Rome:

This is Not evidences, this just something writed on a book.
Anybody can write anything on any book, so what?
Where is your DNA evidence to show that your Jesus ever existed?
Where are the human remains of your Jesus?
Any bones found?
So your Jesus went to heaven with his own bones?

Horus:

This is Not evidences, this just something writed on a book.
Anybody can write anything on any book, so what?

Man, your grammer has many errors but I have tried to understand what you are saying. How can a non-christian write to justify christianity. You saw the evidence from the Jewish Talmud didn't you? These were the very Jews that killed Jesus. Every Jew will agree with you that Jesus was crucified.

Another question: If you thought books were useless, then why go to school at all? Because all that is written in books makes no meaning to you, or are you another follower of the Muslim 'Boko Haram' sect?

Horus:

Where is your DNA evidence to show that your Jesus ever existed?
Where are the human remains of your Jesus?
Any bones found?
So your Jesus went to heaven with his own bones?

See your level of confusion? If at all there were any DNA traces, then we wouldn't have been preaching the ascension of Christ.
If Jesus remains were here, then why preach his ascension?
If his bones were here, there will be no Christianity.
Show me the bones of Jesus and you would have succeeded in rendering Christianity false.

Horus:

This is Not evidences, this just something writed on a book.
Anybody can write anything on any book, so what?
Where is your DNA evidence to show that your Jesus ever existed?
Where are the human remains of your Jesus?
Any bones found?
So your Jesus went to heaven with his own bones?

Writed That's a new one.

Every Jew will agree with you that Jesus was crucified.

And ?, they agree and so what?. Where is the evidence that your Jesus ever existed?
Every kid will agree with you that Santa Clauss is real.
All you have here is BELIEFS but no FACTS. Where is your evidence?

If jesus was a messiah he would never would have crucified, a man who couldn't save himself and you expect him to save you, jesus even cried in agony, he was expecting someone to come to his rescue see Mathew 27:46. The Quran tells us that it wasn't jesus that was crucified but judas likewise the epistle of barnabas

@Abuzola
Are u sure u are a Muslim? if yes i doubt ur believe, instead of u to respect other peoples religion no matter are good or bad it is you are condemning their religion and their God.

But i think it is written in the Koran that u should nt make negative moves about others religion or their God so that they also will not condemn ur God.
I'm feeling sorry for you,cos or the way u allow people wash tongue on ur God and the Koran
I will advice u to stop the rubbish or u incur the wrath of Allah upon ur head.
there is no way you can win a soul to islam by all this u are doing. this is not the best way to win a soul

alimat 2:

@Abuzola
Are u sure u are a Muslim? if yes i doubt ur believe, instead of u to respect other peoples religion no matter are good or bad it is you are condemning their religion and their God.

But i think it is written in the Koran that u should nt make negative moves about others religion or their God so that they also will not condemn ur God.
I'm feeling sorry for you,cos or the way u allow people wash tongue on ur God and the Koran
I will advice u to stop the rubbish or u incur the wrath of Allah upon ur head.
there is no way you can win a soul to islam by all this u are doing. this is not the best way to win a soul

Its not funny, I think the best thing we should do is to find way to please God so that we can all see the Kingdom of God and be part of it

alimat 2:

Its not funny, I think the best thing we should do is to find way to please God so that we can all see the Kingdom of God and be part of it

I didn't know there was a Kingdom of God in the Qu'ran

Anyway, the following verses will be helpful. . .

Hebrews 11:6 ". . . without faith it is impossible to please God. . ."

John 3:3". . .except a man be born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God. . ."

iF U WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE QURAN AND ISLAM YOU HAVE TO LEAVE PRIDE,IGNORANCE AND BIAS MIND AGAINST IT, THEN U KNOW WHAT AND WHAT IT CONTAINS,

THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS SIMPLY PARADISE

THE TRUE MUSLIM BELIVE IN JESUS AND HIS MESSAGE AND ALSO IN ONE TRUE GOD BUT NOT 3 IN 1 GOD

Horus:

And ?, they agree and so what?. Where is the evidence that your Jesus ever existed?
Every kid will agree with you that Santa Clauss is real.
All you have here is BELIEFS but no FACTS. Where is your evidence?

Are you a kid? If I asked evidence of your existence several hundreds of years after your death, what will I get as evidence? Is it not your biography as written down that will be my evidence, and possibly your grave? Jesus' grave where he was buried is still there for you to see if you go to israel. You will not find his bones there because he arose and ascended into heaven. His life and works are documented in the bible and the other non-biblical writings I earlier quoted. What is your grouse?

Alimat stay out of this, i don't know whether you are a muslim or not, incase you do not know: This is a campaign/jihad in the religious section

Alimat , i didn't know you are christian, shame on you and your miserable god who died in pieces on the cross of calvary

@ ABU

AM A MUSLIM AND I DONT CRITICISE AS YOU DO,

ABUZOLA PLEASE SAVE UR SOUL, IF U WANT TO CONVINCE PEOPLE THIS IS NOT THE BEST WAY TO DO IT

U dey craze ? Leave me and stop that ur bias preaching, if your boyfriend is a xtrian it won't deter me from saying the truth. Have you seen how the muslim section was obliterated ? So leave me and them to face the consequence

If I asked evidence of your existence several hundreds of years after your death, what will I get as evidence?

NONE!!!. So you have no evidence.

You will not find his bones there because he arose and ascended into heaven.

So he arose and ascended into heaven with his bones?

Lmao. He wanted to say spirit or rather ghost

@ABU
WHY SAY CRAZY?

ANYWAY THE CONSEQUENCE IS MORE THAN U CAN BEAR, AS A BROTHER AM JUST TRYING TO WARN U AGAINST THE ANGER OF GOD ON U,DNT SAY BAD THINGS AGAINST THEM, IF THEY RUBBISH THE ISLAM SECTION THEN U IGNORE AND CONTINUE WITH THE RIGHTFUL POST INSTEAD OF REPLYING BAD FOR BAD.ISLAM PREACHES THAT IF THEY DO U BAD RETURN WITH GOOD

PLEASE FOR THE SAKE OF LOVE OF GOD

Horus:

So he arose and ascended into heaven with his bones?

Yes

Horus:

NONE!!!. So you have no evidence.

Because you are still alive, kid. But I asked 'if you were dead'.