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Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by dulux07(m): 11:31am On Apr 11, 2016
ReverseEngineer:
That's a lie bro. There are lots of private Unis that don't even require post UTME exams. Just come with your money after you fail Jamb! I mean, a handful of them. I wouldn't want to spoil someone's business by calling out schools.. I still maintain that, If all you're provided with is nothing different from what other Nigerians universities provide, and the products of the said school are yet to produce meaningful stuffs, then the 800k+ is a monumental waste. I'll give an analogy in my next post..
Mention the school. undecided no school under NUC will accept such. There r lot of differences, in priv wat u deserve is wat u get, 4yrs is 4yrs, good practical education, disciplined graduates etc

Lol, Whats d diff btw an economic class and business class in airline, are they not bound 4 dsame destination undecided just because d former cant afford it does not mean the latter his wasting his money.

For u to say the private uni graduate dont produce anything meaningful is funny, like seriously, d oldest private uni is babcock. I dont think its up to 25yrs, others r not more than 12yrs. I cant start mentioning names.

This country wont be this bad if thousands that graduated from public uni over the years made positive impacts. No wonder they have corrupt alumnis. Because the system itself is corrupt.

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Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Nobody: 11:34am On Apr 11, 2016
Draxler:

So in other words, you are denying that these things that I'm saying happen in public schools. No problem let's all keep deceiving ourselves.
Before you embarked on your journey to private university, what did you score in UTME and what's your choice of institution, and which course?
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Draxler: 11:37am On Apr 11, 2016
Silvofitz:

Before you embarked on your journey to private university, what did you score in UTME and what's your choice of institution, and which course?
I scored 250 and my first choice was Covenant University. I chose Computer Science. What else?
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Nobody: 11:47am On Apr 11, 2016
Draxler:

I scored 250 and my first choice was Covenant University. I chose Computer Science. What else?
You mean that was your first and only attempt?
As far as I know, more than 70% of the students in private universities in Nigeria had unsuccessfully tried to gain admission to public universities before retiring to fate in private institutions. In most cases, they make public universities as first choice, and private ones as alternatives. And only a smaller % who fear they might not meet the high cut off in the public schools choose the private ones straightaway.
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Draxler: 11:54am On Apr 11, 2016
Silvofitz:

You mean that was your first and only attempt?
As far as I know, more than 70% of the students in private universities in Nigeria had unsuccessfully tried to gain admission to public universities before retiring to fate in private institutions. In most cases, they make public universities as first choice, and private ones as alternatives. And only a smaller % who fear they might not meet the high cut off in the public schools choose the private ones straightaway.
Well you have met someone who picked CU as his first choice in his first and only attempt. Nice to meet you too. And by the way many of my course mates chose CU as first choice. This your belief that we all tried to enter public schools first and failed before we settled for private schools is wrong. The cut off for most public universities offering computer science as at the time I wrote JAMB was 200 and I made 250. I chose to go to a private school. I'm glad you know this now.
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by nuelyoyo(m): 12:02pm On Apr 11, 2016
flaky66:
Who private uni don epp?? sad
who u help?
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by ReverseEngineer: 12:14pm On Apr 11, 2016
Draxler:

There is post utme in CU. Its called cuSAT. In the year I got admitted out of 10000 people that wrote the exam only about 1000 were admitted. So just because you have 700k doesn't mean your admission is sure. Nobody with 150 jamb score will enter CU, or someone with a pass in maths or any subject related to the course you want to study. So get your facts right.
In the real sense, it's quite obvious that you've either consciously or otherwise taken a shift away from the argument... When I quoted you firstly on this thread, I provided a link to another thread. Doing so, I wanted you to pick some point before argument. As much as I know,October 21st this year, CU (I decided too take CU since it's your alma mater and the oldest, perhaps) would be celebrating her annual founder's day... She'll be 16years by then. Well, after taking a stroll into the Labour Market, I discovered a few things (I decided not to use the political example, since you might wish to use age to dodge such points) viz:
1. That, the tech world and the under 30 CEOs are dominated by Graduates of public universities.. Take a look at the founder of Nairaland, Linda Ikeji, The Jobberman Trio, cofounder of e-commerce site, Konga and dealdey, to mention but a few; they all graduated from public Universities or schools overseas (Except Sim Sagaya of Kings).
2. We've always seen news and dailies always showing us Students from Nigeria who break grounds. We're still waiting for Nigerian private university students to make us proud.
3. The Iroko programming competition was won last year by a public Uni student and has been so for a while now. With all the facilities, don't they teach quality programming at CU? Or why should students from those dilapidated schools always clinch the prize??
4. In 2013/2014, the University of Ilorin in a National Maths conference held at Abuja clinched the winning prize ... Well, maybe they don't offer maths at CU. Just recently, the pat utomi prize for debate was clinched by two UI students and a UNN student. Where are the orators of BU and CU? Its open to all students mind you. Also, The ANUC interuniversity Competition was championed by Unilorin, a public Uni. No private school came first second or even third. Why? To essayists, we all know of the popular CIPMN essay competition open to all Nigerian students.. Unilorin, Unilag and UNN students have excellently turned this to a household award, why? Don't CU students write?
I can go on and on, if you so please. Now, consider this:


The fact that education is expensive is a very beautiful quote if and only if the products of such an educational system are well represented. Look at the products of MIT.. Who dares says expensive education isn't good? Those in Harvard. Look at Gates, Mack Zuckerberg, Larry page and sergey brin (cofounders of Google Inc.), Evan Spiegel (cofounder of Snap chat); the Winklevoss brothers, Sean parker, Eduardo Saverin, etc.,; with their world class products, who dares say expensive education is bad? Nobody! Their tuition fees have been transformed into meaningful stuffs. But, here, the reverse is the case. The "poorly funded" schools are the ones doing exploits... What is Education without valuable impacts on the society? Is it all about paying 700k+?
It is not education if it's not "productive to the society and product oriented.
Please bro, before you refute my claims, Use Google. Thanks.

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Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Nusaf: 12:28pm On Apr 11, 2016
ReverseEngineer:
In the real sense, it's quite obvious that you've either consciously or otherwise taken a shift away from the argument... When I quoted you firstly on this thread, I provided a link to another thread. Doing so, I wanted you to pick some point before argument. As much as I know,October 21st this year, CU (I decided too take CU since it's your alma mater and the oldest, perhaps) would be celebrating her annual founder's day... She'll be 16years by then. Well, after taking a stroll into the Labour Market, I discovered a few things (I decided not to use the political example, since you might wish to use age to dodge such points) viz:
1. That, the tech world and the under 30 CEOs are dominated by Graduates of public universities.. Take a look at the founder of Nairaland, Linda Ikeji, The Jobberman Trio, cofounder of e-commerce site, Konga and dealdey, to mention but a few; they all graduated from public Universities or schools overseas (Except Sim Sagaya of Kings).
2. We've always seen news and dailies always showing us Students from Nigeria who break grounds. We're still waiting for Nigerian private university students to make us proud.
3. The Iroko programming competition was won last year by a public Uni student and has been so for a while now. With all the facilities, don't they teach quality programming at CU? Or why should students from those dilapidated schools always clinch the prize??
4. In 2013/2014, the University of Ilorin in a National Maths conference held at Abuja clinched the winning prize ... Well, maybe they don't offer maths at CU. Just recently, the pat utomi prize for debate was clinched by two UI students and a UNN student. Where are the orators of BU and CU? Its open to all students mind you. Also, The ANUC interuniversity Competition was championed by Unilorin, a public Uni. No private school came first second or even third. Why? To essayists, we all know of the popular CIPMN essay competition open to all Nigerian students.. Unilorin, Unilag and UNN students have excellently turned this to a household award, why? Don't CU students write?
I can go on and on, if you so please. Now, consider this:


The fact that education is expensive is a very beautiful quote if and only if the products of such an educational system are well represented. Look at the products of MIT.. Who dares says expensive education isn't good? Those in Harvard. Look at Gates, Mack Zuckerberg, Larry page and sergey brin (cofounders of Google Inc.), Evan Spiegel (cofounder of Snap chat); the Winklevoss brothers, Sean parker, Eduardo Saverin, etc.,; with their world class products, who dares say expensive education is bad? Nobody! Their tuition fees have been transformed into meaningful stuffs. But, here, the reverse is the case. The "poorly funded" schools are the ones doing exploits... What is Education without valuable impacts on the society? Is it all about paying 700k+?
It is not education if it's not "productive to the society and product oriented.
Please bro, before you refute my claims, Use Google. Thanks.

Excellent. U made me proud.
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by ReverseEngineer: 12:42pm On Apr 11, 2016
dulux07:

Mention the school. undecided no school under NUC will accept such. There r lot of differences, in priv wat u deserve is wat u get, 4yrs is 4yrs, good practical education, disciplined graduates etc

Lol, Whats d diff btw an economic class and business class in airline, are they not bound 4 dsame destination undecided just because d former cant afford it does not mean the latter is wasting is money.

For u to say the private uni graduate dont produce anything meaningful is funny, like seriously, d oldest private uni is babcock. I dont think its up to 25yrs, others r not more than 12yrs. I cant start mentioning names.

This country wont be this bad if thousands that graduated from public uni over the years made positive impacts. No wonder they have corrupt alumnis. Because the system itself is corrupt.





And who told you 4yrs 8yrs in all public universities? bro, There's nothing, I repeat, no Facility or any academic policy any Nigerian private Uni would have Unilorin doesn't have. That's with my 23k annually ooo...lol... Just name the thing bro. You don't need to generalise. I've been emphasizing on Unilorin because that's the school for which I have sufficient empirical data. I'm sure mot Public universities too have the same.
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Olabestonic001(m): 12:46pm On Apr 11, 2016
dulux07:

Inadequate exposure and experience. Your parents dont have to be filthy rich before u can attend a priv university. undecided

From which angle are you speaking from?
If you quote inadequate exposure and experience, then it means you're probably living in Banana Island or VGC.
Majority of Nigerians lives in rural communities and slums. I don't know where your parents works but I can assure an extremely large chunks of Nigerians cant as at present afford those schools.
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by emmy1997: 1:28pm On Apr 11, 2016
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Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by nopretense: 1:59pm On Apr 11, 2016
dulux07:

What do u call, corrupt activities, facilities and academic decay going on for years now in the pub university. As old as some of them are, they can not even feature in top best in africa. I guess its a major SET-FORWARD right, CONTINUE DECEIVING URSEF. no wonder some of u use 7yrs for a 4yr course

There is nothing special about pub uni as well, just avoidable and meaningless harsh conditions. If a private uni student desperately wants to attend a pub uni, his 1year fee in a priv uni will buy his way in. Thats how decayed the public system is.
lool, pls dn't generalise, judging by a little sample of the population...
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Nobody: 2:23pm On Apr 11, 2016
Draxler:

Well you have met someone who picked CU as his first choice in his first and only attempt. Nice to meet you too. And by the way many of my course mates chose CU as first choice. This your belief that we all tried to enter public schools first and failed before we settled for private schools is wrong. The cut off for most public universities offering computer science as at the time I wrote JAMB was 200 and I made 250. I chose to go to a private school. I'm glad you know this now.
There's something some of you don't understand by cut off point. That you score above 200, which is the approved cut off mark for most public universities doesn't mean you would have an automatic admission. It does mean you are qualified to proceed to the next prerequisite interviews / examinations. For instance, if you score 250 in UTME, as claimed, in UI, and your O' level result is in lower grades, like C6, C5; I can assure you, you wouldn't secure admission for computer science. (In UI A1=12points, B2=10, B3=8, C4=6,C5=4, C6=2 points; all making 60points). Or if you score that same 250, and score like 60% in post-UTME in UNILAG, you might not secure admission.
In previous admission, in UNILAG, the cut off aggregate for medicine & surgery was 75%. Though the UTME cut off mark was 200. But students with low as low marks as 250 has a slim chance of gaining admission. 250/8, will be like 31 /50. To make 75 aggregate u would need like 88/100 in post-UTME.
This is what some of you don't understand.
That some of you choose private schools ab initio, is understandable. It's a matter of choice. And many factors are involved, and I believe the chance of getting admission is one of such factors.
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by eazzzy1(m): 2:58pm On Apr 11, 2016
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Jaydenphoenix: 4:30pm On Apr 11, 2016
This is a very ridiculous post. After reading all the comments, I don't get what the issue is.

In my opinion, it's only an employer of labour that can say which is more preferable (public or private uni). Everyother person just commenting based on personal views.
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Donnetimmy(m): 4:47pm On Apr 11, 2016
ReverseEngineer:
In the real sense, it's quite obvious that you've either consciously or otherwise taken a shift away from the argument... When I quoted you firstly on this thread, I provided a link to another thread. Doing so, I wanted you to pick some point before argument. As much as I know,October 21st this year, CU (I decided too take CU since it's your alma mater and the oldest, perhaps) would be celebrating her annual founder's day... She'll be 16years by then. Well, after taking a stroll into the Labour Market, I discovered a few things (I decided not to use the political example, since you might wish to use age to dodge such points) viz:
1. That, the tech world and the under 30 CEOs are dominated by Graduates of public universities.. Take a look at the founder of Nairaland, Linda Ikeji, The Jobberman Trio, cofounder of e-commerce site, Konga and dealdey, to mention but a few; they all graduated from public Universities or schools overseas (Except Sim Sagaya of Kings).
2. We've always seen news and dailies always showing us Students from Nigeria who break grounds. We're still waiting for Nigerian private university students to make us proud.
3. The Iroko programming competition was won last year by a public Uni student and has been so for a while now. With all the facilities, don't they teach quality programming at CU? Or why should students from those dilapidated schools always clinch the prize??
4. In 2013/2014, the University of Ilorin in a National Maths conference held at Abuja clinched the winning prize ... Well, maybe they don't offer maths at CU. Just recently, the pat utomi prize for debate was clinched by two UI students and a UNN student. Where are the orators of BU and CU? Its open to all students mind you. Also, The ANUC interuniversity Competition was championed by Unilorin, a public Uni. No private school came first second or even third. Why? To essayists, we all know of the popular CIPMN essay competition open to all Nigerian students.. Unilorin, Unilag and UNN students have excellently turned this to a household award, why? Don't CU students write?
I can go on and on, if you so please. Now, consider this:


The fact that education is expensive is a very beautiful quote if and only if the products of such an educational system are well represented. Look at the products of MIT.. Who dares says expensive education isn't good? Those in Harvard. Look at Gates, Mack Zuckerberg, Larry page and sergey brin (cofounders of Google Inc.), Evan Spiegel (cofounder of Snap chat); the Winklevoss brothers, Sean parker, Eduardo Saverin, etc.,; with their world class products, who dares say expensive education is bad? Nobody! Their tuition fees have been transformed into meaningful stuffs. But, here, the reverse is the case. The "poorly funded" schools are the ones doing exploits... What is Education without valuable impacts on the society? Is it all about paying 700k+?
It is not education if it's not "productive to the society and product oriented.
Please bro, before you refute my claims, Use Google. Thanks.



You've said my mind
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Nobody: 5:03pm On Apr 11, 2016
eazzzy1:


By system in place, I mean monitoring what and how a lecturer teaches, get feedbacks from students about lecturers, Assessments by superiors and making sure the standards of the school are been upheld. Lecturers of public schools are gods. They have all the rights and can act as they please. Private school lecturers are more regulated and controlled. If not for cost, I will say the education system in naija should be privatized.
Thats an advantage the private schools have. but I believe the quality of education is the same. I mean you take a lazy unproductive lecturer who hasnt conducted any research in his field since his /her undergraduate days, and you think putting that same lecturer inside an office with AC, a bigger paycheck and fewer students automatically means he will teach something different or something better? Meen you cant teach what you dont have.
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by chidozieikeji2: 5:47pm On Apr 11, 2016
Its not all about attending public or private university, foreign or local university,state or federal university what matters most is what u can produce after u have graduated from d university its high time we stop laying much emphasis on certificate we need to rely more on research and not on the skool environment or certificate
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Champella(m): 6:03pm On Apr 11, 2016
Funminicrown:
And so?
Does that justify why 400 students will graduate with a first class out of 1000 graduands?
Private universities are the remote cause of our fall in educational standard.
I stand to be corrected!

The more than 400 first class graduates you just posted is purely an exaggeration.

Why don't you see it this way that admitting very sound candidates translate to quality graduates. A case of "Gabbage-in Gabbage-out".

A similar case would be that of Barcelona signing quality players to win so many trophies. Does it mean that they are favoured by UEFA or the Spanish Football Federation over other football clubs?

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Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by DrayZee: 7:46pm On Apr 11, 2016
Babzilla:
Hahahhaha.. electricity money and infrastructure thats the reason for the high first class turnouts... please.
In spite of the huge turn outs of first class students ask yourselves this. Why has none of the private schools made the best universities in World if the quality of education is as you argue it is.
Also remember many of the lecturers were pulled form the public schools which would mean its still the same quality of edication you get from the public schools with less stress of course
Lastly in spite of all the bragging on the quality of education in the private schools Im still yet to hear of any remarkable breakthrough in the field of research, science or technology achieved by any product of these schools.
Just saying
According to webometrics (an international standard) rankings, Covenant University is the best university in Nigeria.
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by DrayZee: 7:48pm On Apr 11, 2016
maputohq:

based on experience, public uni rejects take private uni as consolation.
why would i bad-mouth one who is "priviledged" out of envy for being a priv uni undergraduate when i'm also priviledge to get same on merit in a public uni where most politicians run their second, third, fourth and even fifth degree.
our anger is "we suffer more" and so let them take their "first class" off our faces.
This just corrects me.
HATE for private universities just because you suffered more. So private first class graduates are useless because they didn't suffer.

Why will you just decide to hate or despise someone because he/she did not suffer like you did?
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Nobody: 7:51pm On Apr 11, 2016
DrayZee:

According to webometrics (an international standard) rankings, Covenant University is the best university in Nigeria.
Hahaha

Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Nobody: 7:55pm On Apr 11, 2016
tongue
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by DrayZee: 7:59pm On Apr 11, 2016
Babzilla:

Hahaha
Suit yourself.
I'll leave you to your hating.
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Nobody: 8:05pm On Apr 11, 2016
DrayZee:

Suit yourself.
I'll leave you to your hating.

Yo dude
I wasnt hating or nuthing read my posts
Ask yourself this.
When foreign scholars come to do some research
or work in naija their first port of call is the public schools
ever wondered why wink
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by DrayZee: 8:07pm On Apr 11, 2016
Babzilla:


Yo dude
I wasnt hating or nuthing read my posts
Ask yourself this.
When foreign scholars come to do some research
or work in naija their first port of call is the public schools
ever wondered why wink
I don't know where you saw that. That is not an informed conclusion.
Though, it would be the logical thing to do considering the fact that public Universities are expected to be well equipped. But, in Nigeria, that is not the case.
That is not an informed conclusion.
But I'll leave you to your...
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Nobody: 8:09pm On Apr 11, 2016
DrayZee:

I don't know where you saw that. That is not an informed conclusion.
But I'll leave you to your...

Yeah truth hurts
I know
...Good night homes
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by DrayZee: 8:27pm On Apr 11, 2016
Babzilla:


Yeah truth hurts
I know
...Good night homes
Yep, I'm sure you understand.
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by delpee(f): 10:06pm On Apr 11, 2016
Unnecessary debate really! Each man to his choice. Employers don't care about this, they deal with individual performance.
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by flaky66(f): 5:42am On Apr 12, 2016
nuelyoyo:
who u help?
who u sef don epp.

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