tosinjay:

I believe in the finished work of Christ, have faith solely in Him faith unto repentance not to keep on living in sin that grace may abound.

cloudgoddess:
How does someone burn without a body in the first place? Pain receptors and nerve cells are required to feel burns.

MrMcJay:


If you neglect the salvation that Jesus offers, you're doomed.

If you accept Jesus and later turn back from Jesus into your sins, you're doomed.

For those who say once you accept Jesus, grace covers your subsequent sins; I hope it's alright if I kill ur pastor or sleep with his wife as grace covers my sins too?

tosinjay:


You Sir/Ma is very much in the dark of the true Gospel, the bible says compare Scripture with Scriptures... We don't observe the law but obey God's word. In your description now you're concerned about your believe only, that won't save you, for it is written even the demons believe and they tremble. Christ said if you love Me keep my commandments. What are His commandments? Not the law but being righteous in your dealings before men and God.

Gwan2:

In ur bit to to sound so smart you sounded so ignorant of wat ur suggesting....Is it the man that is threatening his followers or is a message or warning embedded in the Bible?
Except if u Want him to twist the Bible on ur behalf though...Also mind you, biblically, greater punishment is ascribed 2 those who heard d word often bt disobeyed which is in line wit what he said.
In ur bit to to sound so smart you sounded so ignorant of wat ur suggesting....Is it the man that is threatening his followers or is a message or warning embedded in the Bible?
Except if u Want him to twist the Bible on ur behalf though...Also mind you, biblically, greater punishment is ascribed 2 those who heard d word often bt disobeyed which is in line wit what he said.
In ur bit to to sound so smart you sounded so ignorant of wat ur suggesting....Is it the man that is threatening his followers or is a message or warning embedded in the Bible?
Except if u Want him to twist the Bible on ur behalf though...Also mind you, biblically, greater punishment is ascribed 2 those who heard d word often bt disobeyed which is in line wit what he said.

buchilino:


DO U HONESTLY THINK KUMUYI HASN'T BEEN TRYING TO EDUCATE D MEMBERS?. BUT LETS FACE D FACTS, D BIBLE SAYS IN D END TIMES, DER WILL B MIX MULTITUDE IN D CHURCH. PPLE WHO COME IN SHEEP CLOTHING, BUT R LIONS N WOLFS INSIDE. I USE TO B A DEEPER LIFE MEMBER, BUT D ATTITUDE OF SOME OF DER PASTORS LEFT ME FRUSTRATED SOI LEFT. DIS R D KIND PPLE KUMUYI IS REFERRING TO.

paxonel:
As
The truth is he has not educate his pastors or members enough and when they make mistakes he is quick to threaten hell fire.
Do you know what it means to educate people?
Do you call school of theology or workers training education?
Pls education is far beyond all that.
You must understand that we are living in secular world and education encompasses the secular.
You will agree with me that more than 70% of deeper life church members as it also applies to other churches and even nigeria at large have no form of university education,as a result people commit more sin out of ignorance
So kumuyi should be rather sympathetic to people
Do you think God is not aware of this fact?
He is aware, thats why a created a common platform of people to be saved and not go to hell fire irrespective of their educational background and sin level . And that common platform is Christ.

Amok2:
the message of d cross is being more centered on than D Hell message in Deeper life. Go and Listen to the message that pastor kumuyi talked about hell being hotter 4 deeper life sinners. he preaches more on eternal life. but the Bible says CRUCIFY THE FLESH. it's not thru confession alone. JESUS SAID IT HIMSELF. STRIVE TO ENTER. I PRAY WE DON'T BCOME LIKE D FIVE FOOLISH VIRGINS

EmperorMGI:
God bless you my brother...The level of Ignorance in this denomination is becoming alarming!. Who told them that Hell will be hotter for some persons....Let them keep deceiving themselves....God knows NO denomination!... He will judge every man equally.
Just like you said, teach the people how to overcome sin!
I can say that, this denomination is filled with hypocritical Christians...Their youths live in fear of their pastors and parents, and not the fear of God. When outside the perimeters of "both", they behave otherwise.
God help them all.

deochris749:



That sounds like a threat? Simply warning bro!...Hell is real and heaven is real.
Bless you!

baddyoosha:
the truth must be told no matter how u dilute it. God doesnt condone with any act against his commandments. the end is nigh he who is wise harken to instructions

kenex4ever:
do u know if that was his first time of threatening them for 30yrs?

damocool:

Pray for wisdom and understanding before searching the scriptures and don't just read one verse to interpret a whole chapter in the Bible, you just jumped into that verse to justify the reason for you to keep sinning. Read this particular chapter from from the beginning to understand the verse you just jumped to.. As regards to hell, it's the Bible teaching and everything he says is from the Bible and if anyone doesn't believe in that, the fellow isn't a believer... As he always says, anyone who wouldn't like to hear and accept the truth can leave the church to a place (s) he will be comfortable with that would be preached there... Christ death doesn't automatically deems us fit for heaven, only those that are converted, sanctified, free from all forms of sins and continue serving God.....are deem fit for heaven. John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: (but he that believeth not is condemned already,) because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God... Are you tell me that the Bible is wrong with that bracketed phrase too? So what's wrong with your pastor reminding you of that...

paxonel:

As a result of this, may members have ran away.
I know one beautiful lady who could not get married because no man was Looking at her because of her boogus dressing all in the name of making heaven.
When she saw that even kumuyi son got married to a sexy jamaican, she quited.
Today she is married,looking contemporarily sexy and travels to UK as if UK is at her backyard

promise101:

You are now contradicting yourself!
I just imagine how 2 opposite words can be coming out from one mouth. It is satanic!

You said this; "We don't observe the LAW OF GOD given through moses but we OBEY his word, which is still his laws."

Please is the Law of God, given through moses, no more GOD'S WORD. My friend you cannot separate the Laws of God from the word of God.

His laws given through moses are his words as well, so wake up and stop contradicting yourself.


First of all, are you justified because you obey God's Law(word)? No!

Are you righteous because you live rightly before him? No! Rather, living rightly before him with the motive of being righteous before him will only end up making you accursed.

Gal 3:10;"CERTAINLY, THERE IS A CURSE ON ALL
WHO RELY ON THEIR OWN EFFORTS TO LIVE
ACCORDING TO A SET OF STANDARD because
Scripture says, "Whoever doesn't obey
EVERYTHING that is written in Moses' Teachings is
cursed." (God's word translation)


Right living and obedience to God's law can NEVER justify you, so we are not to live by them, because if you live by them, you can not keep ALL of them to the taste of God, and that is what will make you accursed. That's why God seeing that we cannot keep ALL his word to his taste, which will end up making us accursed, he made christ to be the CURSE OF LAW(his word) So that whether we keep it or not, his curse will not be poured on us.

promise101:

You are now contradicting yourself!
I just imagine how 2 opposite words can be coming out from one mouth. It is satanic!

You said this; "We don't observe the LAW OF GOD given through moses but we OBEY his word, which is still his laws."

Please is the Law of God, given through moses, no more GOD'S WORD. My friend you cannot separate the Laws of God from the word of God.

His laws given through moses are his words as well, so wake up and stop contradicting yourself.


First of all, are you justified because you obey God's Law(word)? No!

Are you righteous because you live rightly before him? No! Rather, living rightly before him with the motive of being righteous before him will only end up making you accursed.

Gal 3:10;"CERTAINLY, THERE IS A CURSE ON ALL
WHO RELY ON THEIR OWN EFFORTS TO LIVE
ACCORDING TO A SET OF STANDARD because
Scripture says, "Whoever doesn't obey
EVERYTHING that is written in Moses' Teachings is
cursed." (God's word translation)


Right living and obedience to God's law can NEVER justify you, so we are not to live by them, because if you live by them, you can not keep ALL of them to the taste of God, and that is what will make you accursed. That's why God seeing that we cannot keep ALL his word to his taste, which will end up making us accursed, he made christ to be the CURSE OF LAW(his word) So that whether we keep it or not, his curse will not be poured on us.

Fearcom:


If someone called you and told you that your favorite joint/hangout could be bombed and going there could endanger your life, would you call that a threat? Or a WARNING

I have learnt a lesson from scripture. Avoid going to HELL AT ALL COSTS. AT ALL COSTS. AT ALL COSTS. AT ALL COSTS. JESUS came to DIE and to SHED HIS BLOOD for the sins of mankind. REPENTANCE and FORGIVENSS of SINS is a great privilege Remember the place where Jesus said if your left eye causes you to offend, pluck it out? That is is better to enter heaven/life with one eye than for the whole body to be thrown into hell?

Man's eternal destiny is in HIS HANDS.

profolaolu:
I pray U ll nt die in ur spiritual blindness n ur sinful sorrowful life, picking on a man of God for declearing d complete truth,I pity ur condition, even JESUS n John d baptism make such proclaimation,even if U knw dis easy going quiet man of God,U ll never open ur miserable mouth to utter such statement,get a life

paxonel:

Are you threatening me?

tosinjay:

I think you need someone who got time to getting it all out to you but i might not have all the time to type much. You are on a broad way. Please keep studying the Scripture to make sure you're right and don't loose the way, Joseph Prince and his likes are mentoring so many people to hell in our generation. To me ehn i so much like blunt messages because they help me in my walk with God. You're talking about Paul, what do you make of the message of Christ? He Himself preached Hell alot because He knows the consequences. The law is not just the law of God through Moses to all but to the jews and those who were adopted jews. Laws that affects our rights before God still stands and isn't portrayed as living by the law.

You say i contradict myself, i say you say things without basis from the Bible, the bible have standard which is compare Scripture with Scriptures but you've rather brought up verses out of context.
The law is written in our hearts as the word says but not having it in yours means you do not have the right spirit, the Spirit of God in you.
Hebrews 10:16
This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

profolaolu:
So d devil knws d Bible read Hebrew 10 vs 26 n 27 n heal ur ignorance

compujyde:


Oga, it's not threat but warning borne out of a caring heart and even Jesus said things weightier than that.

Pride threatens while Care warns.

Reminds me of when my dad continued to warn me while growing up, about the dangers of not facing my studies squarely. No adult did me such a favour as much as my dad. I had a choice not to heed his warnings and even hate him for it but who would have suffered for such a response? No one else but me. Well, I heeded and have gained a lot ever since!

Talking about educating/teaching as a solution for sin as you purported; well, Pastor Kumuyi is one of the greatest teacher of the Word of God in this country if not beyond and his teachings are frequent/fresh and not limited to holiness so you can be rest assured that beyond warning, he teaches them on how to stop sinning. I'm not a member of Deeper Life but I've listened to his messages and once employed someone of lesser qualification just because he is a member of that church - I needed integrity more than qualification.

I admire Pastor Kumuyi for being among the pastors that does not water down the gospel and have helped saturate the atmosphere with heavenly consciousness and readiness for the return of the Lord Jesus.

tosinjay:

Sorry to say but, kindly be mindful of what you say in ignorance, he does educate them, within the message it's clear that they know the way but won't repent. It's all by grace we obtain mercy, mercy to even have the heart of repentance.
Romans 9:15" For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
They do not know the way, how can they repent?
More than 70% of the church members are illiterate people what do they know?
100% of this 70% are extremely poor people you know what that means?
Anything they can do to have food on their table they will willingly do, whether bad or good.
On Sunday, they will dress up to church and continue to hear the same message of hell fire.
Where are we going?
I grew up in that church from infancy, and later in life went astray but am back now. Yes grace and mercy of God found me and I'm changed today but even if some people would be saved some procrastinating their repentance are getting cut up by death and many would be left with surprise by the Lord's coming. Many are getting their ways right through his messages and souls are genuinely get saved, his message is what nourishes for heavens candidates and not the shabby version of Gospel of deception other ministries present.

tosinjay:

Sorry to say but, kindly be mindful of what you say in ignorance, he does educate them, within the message it's clear that they know the way but won't repent. It's all by grace we obtain mercy, mercy to even have the heart of repentance.
Romans 9:15" For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
They don't know,
Nobody is educating them.
70% of that church population are illiterate people what do they know?
100% of that 70% are extremely poor people
How can they avoid sin?
It's not possible

I grew up in that church from infancy, and later in life went astray but am back now. Yes grace and mercy of God found me and I'm changed today but even if some people would be saved some procrastinating their repentance are getting cut up by death and many would be left with surprise by the Lord's coming. Many are getting their ways right through his messages and souls are genuinely get saved, his message is what nourishes for heavens candidates and not the shabby version of Gospel of deception other ministries present.

EmperorMGI:
I pray their eyes be opened early enough!

tosinjay:

I was once a member of Christ embassy, are you one? If not where you presently worship is no far from same doctrine. Please just try as much as knowing more of the bible and not be misled sha.... Whether you admit once saved always saved or not it's recognised in what you portray. The bible said teaching them to observe all things, pastor Kumuyi has taught, edified and exhorted his congregation all, and you would rather he doesn't talk about what's more serious which is avoiding hell. I hope you realize how serious that topic "hell" is and needs to even be a whole sermon sef, because man is so reprobate that he forgets things often. Worldliness in some congregations is no beans, so kiddy gospel is what they prefer.

tosinjay:

I was once a member of Christ embassy, are you one? If not where you presently worship is no far from same doctrine. Please just try as much as knowing more of the bible and not be misled sha.... Whether you admit once saved always saved or not it's recognised in what you portray. The bible said teaching them to observe all things, pastor Kumuyi has taught, edified and exhorted his congregation all, and you would rather he doesn't talk about what's more serious which is avoiding hell. I hope you realize how serious that topic "hell" is and needs to even be a whole sermon sef, because man is so reprobate that he forgets things often. Worldliness in some congregations is no beans, so kiddy gospel is what they prefer.

BroZeal:

be careful to avoid God's wrath upon you