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Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by tiar: 4:58pm On Apr 22, 2016
Dear Africa interested individuals,


Business people around the world are shouting themselves hoarse for Nigeria to further devalue its currency. Yes, it was devalued formally in February 2015 to 200 naira from 160 naira to the dollar four - five months prior. This is a 25% devaluation.

The IMF and foreign investors want more. The logic is that this will boost revenue oil receipts in local currency terms and help the country to generate more revenue from lower oil prices.

This will also enable foreign investors to bring in $1 million and get 300 million naira instead of 199 million naira presently. Naira supply will flood the system, further spike inflation and send the naira on a further downward spiral post devaluation. The naira lost a further 10% after the CBN Governor at the time (Soludo) devalued the currency in one fell swoop in December 2008 by 25% from N120 to the $.

The failure of the government's policy to peg the naira at approximately 200 is due to the failure of checks and balances by various structures within the system necessary to support this policy.

The banks in Nigeria exchange dollars received at the official pegged rate and pay out dollars (debit the naira account of their customers) at the unofficial rate of 320 naira!

Businesses: Samsumg has priced its S7 Edge at the unofficial black market rate in naira. Nobody is saying anything. Airlines are doing the same thing. These same businesses will now remember there is an official rate when they decide to repatriate their proceeds.

Moneygram and Western Union do not use the official rate when someone in Nigeria wants to remit naira out and receive $ in New York. Their rate is at least 30% higher than the official rate. This rate is nowhere to be found when you walk into to receive naira based on $ sent from the USA. The official rate suddenly exist once again.

All these entities and a lot more have contributed in no small measure to sabotage the government's efforts to stabilize the naira at 200 after a 25% devaluation. When policies or laws are implemented, they can only succeed if those closest to the people support it through obedience.

People are not allowed to buy alcohol in stores if they are less than 21 years old. This is government policy. It is the liquor stores and supermarkets through their check out counters that enforce this. If these stores all come together and decide to not check identification, the law will be null and void without being voided.

Yes, the effect of the naira trading unofficially at 320 instead of 200 is being felt because of the failure to adhere by the above. There is pretty much a gang up to devalue the currency unofficially so that the official devaluation can now take place with ease as its ill effects have already been factored into the economy. This is simply put a manipulation of the currency system to force through an official devaluation by those entrusted to enforce it on behalf of the government.

Norway's largest export is CRUDE OIL and over the past two years, the Norwegian Krone has depreciated by 35% approximately to the $. Norway's foreign exchange reserves are approximately double that of Nigeria at about $57 billion. Nigeria's currency has depreciated by 25% and people with vested interests are gunning for another 50% - 60%.

The question I ask all of you: Sincerely, who does the naira further devaluation really benefit? The Nigerian people or those not from Nigeria but, who like to do business with and make money from Nigeria while flying in and flying out? Trust me, the naira devaluation favors businesses in the short-run a lot more than the benefit to the Nigerian economy in the long-run.

The Central Bank of Nigeria has failed the people of Nigeria by allowing those entrusted with the responsibility of executing transactions at the official to not do so and get away with it. In terms of boosting non-oil exports, the Central Bank needs to exchange non-oil exports at the unofficial rate so as to boost the incentive for farmers to expand their operations.

When agricultural production and exports pick up, then, Nigeria can devalue further and let the farmers reap more from increased exports. Unless Nigeria wants to continue going through this cycle every 5 - 10 years of devaluing its currency and becoming more financially dependent on foreign powers, the knee-jerk reaction of devaluation during commodity price slumps has to stop.

Kenya and Ivory Coats are classified as a bright spot in Africa now; its major exports are soft commodities. Senegal and Morocco have also been mentioned and neither are largely dependent on hard commodities as their number one foreign exchange earner.

The short-term fixes for long-term problems must stop immediately. No better time than now. For the foreign investors and their ilk, this is about naira devaluation. For the Nigerian government and its people this should be about agricultural revitalization. Sometimes there has to be pain before joy. Mothers can relate to what I am saying.

If a dog continues running towards the person whistling at it without knowing who, it becomes the town dog instead of your dog. The cycle of offering IMF aid and demanding devaluation when oil prices decline (especially to African countries) has to stop.

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Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by 989900: 6:16pm On Apr 22, 2016
Now this is the part I blame Buhari for (his stance would definitely create this kind of scenario, now, what are the checks and balances he had in place . . . forget CBN's autonomy . . .).
As for Emefiele and the other CBN deputy governors, directors, and money deposit banks, they are as crooked as scoliosis -- they are part of the reason why the situation is amplified
.


The below is an excerpt from another thread:

The market has waited nervously for the outcome of the review of the FX market Nigeria’s Central Bank says it is conducting.

After the January MPC meeting, the Central Bank said, “in the medium term within which monetary policy is cast, the need to allow policy to produce the desired outcomes becomes a key consideration in the policy mix. Consequently, the bank is fine-tuning the framework for foreign exchange management with a view to ensuring a more effective and liquid foreign exchange market. ”

After the March meeting of the MPC, the apex bank issued a statement in which it said, “however, the Committee (MPC) charged the bank (CBN) to speed up reforms of the foreign exchange market to improve certainty and eliminate noise and opportunities for arbitrage…”

One month after, there is no word on the said review despite the urgency in the MPC statement of March.
Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by Nobody: 6:21pm On Apr 22, 2016
tiar:

The cycle of offering IMF aid and demanding devaluation when oil prices decline (especially to African countries) has to stop.

^^ Simple and short grin grin grin
Ka Chineke mezie okwu

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Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by Nobody: 6:28pm On Apr 22, 2016
The Naira has long been depreciated so devaluation would be a logical consequence.
Its value is now held up artificially (in fact has been under different administrations) and defending the Naira costs money.
Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by Nobody: 6:31pm On Apr 22, 2016
Mindfulness:
The Naira has long been depreciated so devaluation would be a logical consequence.
Its value is now held up artificially (in fact has been under different administrations) and defending the Naira costs money.
Don't buy into economic myths that bring suffering to millions.
Leave our naira alone.

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Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by Nobody: 6:35pm On Apr 22, 2016
imhotep:

Don't buy into economic myths that bring suffering to millions.
Leave our naira alone.

Millions of people are already suffering. The Naira is worth nothing. You can upvalue it as much as you want artificially. It will only cost more money.

Good luck!

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Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by Nobody: 6:36pm On Apr 22, 2016
Mindfulness:

Over hundred millions people are already suffering.
Fine. Do not introduce MORE suffering.

Mindfulness:

The Naira is worth nothing. You can upvalue it as much as you want artificially. It will only cost more money.
Good luck!
Throw away your economic myths and think creatively.
IMF will lead you into the gutter.
Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by Nobody: 6:41pm On Apr 22, 2016
imhotep:

Fine. Do not introduce MORE suffering.

More suffering is inevitable whether you devalue or not. That's the reality.


Throw away your economic myths and think creatively.
IMF will lead you into the gutter.

Why don't you think CREATIVELY instead of repeating what people have been saying - who do not understand monetary politics and policies - like a parrot?

How will holding up the Naira ARTIFICIALLY help the economy? Are you aware that money is needed to defend a currency? Are you aware of the fact that the reserves are exhausted?
Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by Nobody: 6:46pm On Apr 22, 2016
Mindfulness:

More suffering is inevitable whether you devalue or not. That's the reality.
Then leave the Naira and deal with reducing the suffering.


Mindfulness:

Why don't you think CREATIVELY instead of repeating what people have been saying - who do not understand monetary politics and policies - like a parrot?
Those so-called policies are neo-colonial conventions that fortunately have many alternatives.

Mindfulness:

How will holding up the Naira ARTIFICIALLY help the economy? Are you aware that money is needed to defend a currency? Are you aware of the fact that the reserves are exhausted?
"Economics is the naked Emperor of the Social Sciences"
Think out of the box and quit repeating suspicious, (failed) theories.

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Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by LadyExcellency: 6:47pm On Apr 22, 2016
My question to Mr Op is:

If you are a dependent or Salary earner, you can't understand the economy of regulated and rationed Nigeria forex.

This is the worst form of corruption ever to exist since the amalgamation of North and Southern Nigeria.

Why shouldn't my small soap factory be entitled to forex upon evaluation and confirmation of our import need?

Why should I buy $ at N330 and still be expected to compete with people who got theirs at N200

We should all be treated equally as to support infant local industries.

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Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by Nobody: 6:52pm On Apr 22, 2016
imhotep:

Then leave the Naira and deal with reducing the suffering.

SOUND economic and monetary policies are URGENTLY needed to deal with the suffering.


Those so-called policies are neo-colonial conventions that fortunately have many alternatives.

BLA, BLA, BLA ............ Same old STEWPID story. Miserable victim mentality.


"Economics is the naked Emperor of the Social Sciences"
Think out of the box and quit repeating suspicious, (failed) theories.

As if you are thinking out of the box when you keep repeating the gibberish people who don'T understand macroeconomics have been spewing.

Now answer the question after you had the audacity to confront someone who has expert knowledge:

How will the costly defending (not devaluation of the Naira that has LONG been depreciated) help the economy / people?
Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by Nobody: 6:55pm On Apr 22, 2016
Mindfulness:

SOUND economic and monetary policies are URGENTLY needed to deal with the suffering.
BLA, BLA, BLA ............ Same old STEWPID story. Miserable victim mentality.
When you finish blabbing, leave Naira alone.


Mindfulness:

As if you are thinking out of the box when you keep repeating the gibberish people who don'T understand macroeconomics have been spewing.

Now answer the question after you had the audacity to confront someone who has expert knowledge:

How will the costly defending (not devaluation of the Naira that has LONG been depreciated) help the economy / people?
1. The IMF experts are economic fraudsters.
2. Macroeconomics needs to be studied by CRITICAL minds, not zombie-like dull@rds.
Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by Nobody: 6:56pm On Apr 22, 2016
imhotep:

When you finish blabbing, leave Naira alone.

You are not in the position to tell me what to do.

1. The IMF experts are economic fraudsters.
2. Macroeconomics needs to be studied by CRITICAL minds, not zombie-like dull@rds.

Is this your answer to:

How will the costly defending of the Naira help the economy / the people?

Come creative genius, answer the question!
Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by 989900: 6:59pm On Apr 22, 2016
Mindfulness:


SOUND economic and monetary policies are URGENTLY needed to deal with the suffering.




BLA, BLA, BLA ............ Same old STEWPID story. Miserable victim mentality.




As if you are thinking out of the box when you keep repeating the gibberish people who don'T understand macroeconomics have been spewing.

Now answer the question after you had the audacity to confront someone who has expert knowledge:

How will the costly defending (not devaluation of the Naira that has LONG been depreciated) help the economy / people?

I think the question is: how will 'devaluation' help the economy/people?
Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by Nobody: 7:01pm On Apr 22, 2016
Mindfulness:

You are not in the position to tell me what to do.
But I can tell you what NOT to do. cheesy cheesy cheesy


Mindfulness:

Is this your answer to:
How will the costly defending of the Naira help the economy / the people?

Come creative genius, answer the question!
I have already answered you, but you are too brainwashed to understand what I am saying.
OK, let me repeat.
1. Study macroeconomic theory with a critical mind.
2. Realize that neo-classical economic theory has fundamental flaws.
3. The so-called IMF experts have a dubious history of financially misleading so-called 'developing' countries.

You can buy this book and read, for starters (let me post the cover again) ==>

Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by Nobody: 7:03pm On Apr 22, 2016
989900:


I think the question is: how will 'devaluation' help the economy/people?
^^ Correct my brother.
1. People are already suffering.
2. Devaluation will bring more suffering.
3. There is no plan to alleviate the extra suffering that devaluation will bring.

Mindfulness appears to be another mindless economist roaming around grin grin grin

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Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by Nobody: 7:08pm On Apr 22, 2016
989900:


I think the question is: how will 'devaluation' help the economy/people?

Devalution on its own is not the answer to all problems but it would have the following benefits:

- it would reflect the Naira's real "value"
- it would not further exhaust the reserves
- it would reassure investors that they can get out their profits at a realistic exchange rate --> more investment --> more employment
- it would increase exports
Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by Nobody: 7:09pm On Apr 22, 2016
imhotep:

But I can tell you what NOT to do. cheesy cheesy cheesy



I have already answered you, but you are too brainwashed to understand what I am saying.
OK, let me repeat.
1. Study macroeconomic theory with a critical mind.
2. Realize that neo-classical economic theory has fundamental flaws.
3. The so-called IMF [b]experts
have a dubious history of financially misleading so-called 'developing' countries.[/b]

You can buy this book and read, for starters (let me post the cover again) ==>



So this is the answer to:

How will the costly defending of the Naira help the economy / the poor? grin

Very creative, indeed. grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by 989900: 7:11pm On Apr 22, 2016
Mindfulness:


Devalution on its own is not the answer to all problems but it would have the following benefits:

- it would reflect the Naira's real "value"
- it would not further exhaust the reserves
- it would reassure investors that they can get out their profits at a realistic exchange rate --> more investment --> more employment
- it would increase exports

The Naira was N0.65 to $1 in 1985.

It was N155 to $1 in 2014.

199 to $1 in 2016.

That's some lot of devaluation over time, how come it has not fostered your proposed benefits?

If 'devaluation is not the answer to the all problems', why are you pushing for taking paracetamol as a curative for cancer -- treating symptoms in lieu of 'causes'?
Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by Nobody: 7:12pm On Apr 22, 2016
Mindfulness:


Devalution on its own is not the answer to all problems but it would have the following benefits:

- it would reflect the Naira's real "value"
- it would not further exhaust the reserves
- it would reassure investors that they can get out their profits at a realistic exchange rate --> more investment --> more employment
- it would increase exports
Non-brainwashed Chinese economists know better. grin grin

http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/why-china-wont-revalue

Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by Nobody: 7:12pm On Apr 22, 2016
989900:


The Naira was N0.65 to $1 in 1985.

It was N155 to $1 in 2014.

199 to $1 in 2016.

That's some lot of devaluation over time, how come it has not fostered your proposed benefits?
@ Mindfulness please answer this question ^^
Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by Nobody: 7:13pm On Apr 22, 2016
Mindfulness:



So this is the answer to:

How will the costly defending of the Naira help the economy / the poor? grin

Very creative, indeed. grin grin grin grin grin
Answer this question ==>

989900:


The Naira was N0.65 to $1 in 1985.

It was N155 to $1 in 2014.

199 to $1 in 2016.

That's some lot of devaluation over time, how come it has not fostered your proposed benefits?
Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by Nobody: 7:13pm On Apr 22, 2016
imhotep:

^^ Correct my brother.
1. People are already suffering.

People are already suffering AND the costly defending of the Naira has helped them, right? grin

2. Devaluation will bring more suffering.

The Naira has already been depreciated and more suffering is inevitable whether you devalue or not. The only difference is that devaluation would help in the short, medium and long run whereas the pegged exchange rate won't help at all.

3. There is no plan to alleviate the extra suffering that devaluation will bring.

Is there a plan to alleviate the extra suffering that the exhaustion of reserves to defend the Naira will bring?

Mindfulness appears to be another mindless economist roaming around grin grin grin

Answer the questions genius.
Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by Nobody: 7:14pm On Apr 22, 2016
Mindfulness:


People are already suffering AND the costly defending of the Naira has helped them, right? grin



The Naira has already been depreciated and more suffering is inevitable whether you devalue or not. The only difference is that devaluation would help in the short, medium and long run whereas the pegged exchange rate won't help at all.


Is there a plan to alleviate the extra suffering that the exhaustion of reserves to defend the Naira will bring?


Answer the questions genius.

Answer this one, mindless economist grin grin ==>

989900:


The Naira was N0.65 to $1 in 1985.

It was N155 to $1 in 2014.

199 to $1 in 2016.

That's some lot of devaluation over time, how come it has not fostered your proposed benefits?
Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by Nobody: 7:16pm On Apr 22, 2016
imhotep:

Answer this question ==>


In crude terms, devaluation must be combined with the RIGHT economic policies.
Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by 989900: 7:19pm On Apr 22, 2016
Mindfulness:


In crude terms, devaluation must be combined with the RIGHT economic policies.



. . . with the right monetary and fiscal economic policies, coupled with good governance, we would actually be talking about re-valuation (appreciation); not devaluation.

I have written roughly 10 articles, and tens of comments on NL about this devaluation or not issue.

It would be plain regurgitation repeating the same things . . . kindly have a look at them.
Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by Nobody: 7:20pm On Apr 22, 2016
imhotep:

Non-brainwashed Chinese economists know better. grin grin

http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/why-china-wont-revalue

We are talking about devaluation here and you show me an article that explains why China won't revalue their currency?
Are you aware that China has repeatedly DEVALUED its currency to EXPORT MORE?

You have just shown me an article that shows that China has repeatedly done EXACTLY what Nigeria is asked to do.
Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by Nobody: 7:22pm On Apr 22, 2016
989900:


I have written roughly 10 articles, and tens of comments on NL about this devaluation or not issue.

It would be plain regurgitation repeating the same things . . . kindly have a look at them.

Repeat it or leave it, I am not going to dig up your articles.
Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by 989900: 7:24pm On Apr 22, 2016
Mindfulness:


Repeat it or leave it, I am not going to dig up your articles.

Meh.

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Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by Nobody: 7:32pm On Apr 22, 2016
Mindfulness:


In crude terms, devaluation must be combined with the RIGHT economic policies.
And what are these right economic policies that you have been silent about?
Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by Nobody: 7:35pm On Apr 22, 2016
imhotep:

And what are these right economic policies that you have been silent about?

I have NOT been silent about them.

I will re-reply to your former question AGAIN in a little while.
Re: Nigerian Naira Devaluation: What Is All The FUSS About? by Nobody: 7:45pm On Apr 22, 2016
989900:


The Naira was N0.65 to $1 in 1985.

It was N155 to $1 in 2014.

199 to $1 in 2016.

That's some lot of devaluation over time, how come it has not fostered your proposed benefits?

If 'devaluation is not the answer to the all problems', why are you pushing for taking paracetamol as a curative for cancer -- treating symptoms in lieu of 'causes'?


I think you are confusing depreciation and devaluation.

Depreciation
the currency is determined by the demand and supply and the central bank (or the president) doesn't intervene in it.

Devaluation
central bank decides what should be the value of its currency compared to other countries. The Central bank intervenes by buying or selling government securities to keep its exchange rates (relatively) fixed.

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