HardMirror:
hmmm... you dont get it. It is so messed up a society, that today professionals think the way you think. Imagine saying you hep+ friend is heal. Lolz! Come one and yet you say it does not interfere with your professionalism? You hear testimonies such as 'i did not write anything in my exam, but i passed glory to god', 'i was the least qualified, but jesus made me find favour, i got employed above every other qualified candidate'. These are the rubbish testimonies that is prevailant thanks to stvpidity called religion and faith. And everyone stands up and clap for jesus instead of being shocked and alarmed by such testimonies. Wake up bro, wake up. It is all horseshit

ikenna930:

Being shocked and alarmed for what you dont understand? and that ends it. You are just pointing to things we cant understand and all you need to do is be alarmed and shocked. I dont need to wake up bcus am not asleep. Bro you are obsessed with christianity bcus you dont understand it and no one seems to convince you. Christianity as people say is the foolishness of believing on something which you dont understand. Unsurprisingly for me the foolishness is working.

ikenna930:

Being shocked and alarmed for what you dont understand? and that ends it. You are just pointing to things we cant understand and all you need to do is be alarmed and shocked. I dont need to wake up bcus am not asleep. Bro you are obsessed with christianity bcus you dont understand it and no one seems to convince you. Christianity as people say is the foolishness of believing on something which you dont understand. Unsurprisingly for me the foolishness is working.

frank317:


What's there not to understand about Christianity? U guys try as much to make it sound like a mystery yet the same u will still turn around and say its simple.

You are just an ordinary man like anybody but here u are trying to form superman who understand something so deep. If u are asked to explain what Christianity is u will still explain it like we already know.

Adam sinned and fell short of the glory of God. God cursed man and carried grudges for ages until he killed(drowned) all mankind because of sin which didn't yield anything and then he decided to sacrifice his son for our sake, yet we still have to believe (as if humans didn't need to believe before) to be saved. A man has to be bornagain, give his life to Christ, forsake sin and have faith in God in order to make heaven.

What else is Christianity apart from this. Man has to believe in an imaginary God, pray and fast to it and become a slave to his belief. This is the nonsense Christianity is all about... Funny enough all these makes u no different from anyone. After all these sacrifice, u experience the same thing any other person can experience... The difference is u will be delusioned to think that special things are happening to u.


Oga wake up and smell the coffee... No God is anywhere waiting to rescue u after death. If there is no difference between u and anybody before death, there will be no difference between u and anybody after death.

swaggzo:





MY MAN CATHOLICS SAY THEIR SUPREME MASTER THE POPE, IS WITHOUT SIN. EVERYTHING HE SAYS IS PERFECT BECAUSE GOD CHOSE HIM TO BE POPE.



TILL DATE I WONDER WHY THE LAST ONE RESIGNED.. . GOD CHOSE THE WRONG PERSON? ?


THAT MEANS EVEN GOD CAN MAKE MISTAKES?


THAT MEANS HE'S ALSO NOT PERFECT AND CAN END UP LIKE OTHER INPERFECT PEOPLE, IN HELL?

yemmit90:
Being awhile i took part in this type of discussion. If you are here argueing with Atheists or Deists, you are simply wasting your time because you can never have require facts to backup your claims.

We are simply what we believed. Serving God or not have nothing to do with your existence. Although, religions give hope upon hope with no hope of when and how to fulfil them. Human need more wisdoms and ability to exploit nature than they needs prayers or worshiping a particular god. The fact is that, if you dont act, no amount of paryers can solve your problems.

Every problem ever knows to humanity have a solution,it is only left for us to use our natural talents and wisdoms to discover these solutions.

Yampotatocarrot:


Please, how can I contact you outside here. Need your guidance (want to go into poultry farming)

Thanks

chieveboy:
HardMirror

This thread had resurfaced again . Anyways, l came to say at least from 2020, there is probably going to be 'disclosures' and some of the beings touted as 'God' who said to "make man in their image" will begin to publicise their presence.

They had been here since way back, transporting themselves and people in "chariots of fire" and "flying horses"...

This will rattle most of the religions who had took these guys for God. This however does not mean there is no EXISTENCE out there which should rightfully bear the "God" designation, the discovery by a section of renegade physicists that the universe and everything in it is a unity and actually a conscious entity together with the understanding of this state will take us closer in scratching the surface of grasping 'God'.

That a portion of our brothers existing in other planets within our Galaxy could re-engineer Man into what it is now, build space crafts spanning over 600km, shine so bright that one can't view them with the eyes, etc and yet are not even up to the level of a tiny atom of the magnitude of 'GOD' says we, together with these "God" or "Gods" have not scratched the surface.

Make no mistake though, the actual God is literally the closest thing to you than yourself, the closest you could find it is in your consciousness. There is challenge we face as humans: That of a Level of Manifestation. This is why we can't 'find' or 'see' God.

@the quote in bold.

The ancient Egyptians were already doing that!

Below is how they divided all reality:-

1. The great physical plane (but even this dissipates back to spiritual substance because there's nothing really physical. All is mental).
2. The great mental plane
3. The great spiritual plane

Those who mastered the great mental and spiritual plane were able to manifest anything into reality

More than 7,000 years before Judaism, Christianity, Islam, the ancient Egyptians already solved the question of God and what it is.

We humans actually had and still do have the power to do all things but when Europeans and Arabs came along with religion, humanity plummeted from the true knowledge of God to child's play. Religion has made us humans very stupid.

By the way, the information is contained in the book, the Kabylon, the teachings of ancient Egypt. The Greeks later hijacked it and renamed it the teachings of Hermes Tremigisitus. You may have read it already but should you need it, email: kemeticphilosophy@gmail

abbatoir:

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HardMirror:
Now christianity is a fantastic religion. Although we love saying christianity is not a religion (smiles), we prefer saying it is a relationship with God. I smile because these are part of the things that makes christianity seem special. (More on this later)

Many people erroneously think atheists were never good christians, or that they become atheists because they want to sin. Lol, that is absolutely wrong. It is almost impossible to be a better christian than I was. I don't joke with purity and sincerity. I fast for more than half of the year, to maintain a good level of purity and focus. (And I was damn thin too).

This is one of the reasons why it is impossible to convert me again. There is nothing anyone can say or do that shakes me.

So christians online stop thinking people are not being sincere when they say they are atheists.

MY JOURNEY TO ATHEISM BEGINS: https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian#45183779

Bacteriologist:
This type of thread is the classic Christian apologist nightmare.

CAPSLOCKED:


It hit front-page by mistake in 2016, and my full conversation took place. I found the family I've been looking for all my life, and the rest is history.

CAPSLOCKED:


It hit front-page by mistake in 2016, and my full de-conversion happened. I found the family I've been looking for all my life, and the rest is history.

flying213:
every words in the Bible are written through the Holy Spirit

Luzebox:
how do you know....let me guess because the Bible says so

HardMirror:
CONTINUATION...
CURIORITY and DARING TO QUESTION GOD

The christian God is regarded as a FATHER NOT a SLAVE MASTER.
I took God as my father. I discuss anything and everything with him. He was a friend I loved so much. We had a one on one relationship.
This meant I could ask God any question
I am a practical person, I don't just hear the word, I do the word.
People in the bible had chats with God and He is my father and friend so why should I not ask God questions and why should he not answer?
So ask God sincere questions

1. My Number one problem: We are to preach to all nations and make sure people don't perish
I and many christians I know were trying our absolute best to depopulate hell as fast as possible. To make sure people don't just hear the word BUT they actually get saved.
Someone asked why I pray for at least 12hours. It was because of the burden I carried. The burden of soul winning. It was terrifying that many were going to end up in hell and burn forever! if you are a christian and you believe people will end up in hell and you don't preach and try to win souls everyday YOU ARE WORSE THAN BOKO HARAM. FACT!
How can you have peace of mind and sleep at night knowing you hold the secret to eternal life in your hands and you are comfortable? How dear you buy luxuries when you can put that money into soul winning? How can you be asking God for more money, when you should pick up your bag and preach. How can you be asking God to pick up your call so you too can drive Range Rover?
It started becoming apparent that even God was a wicked God. Why?

-so he is all loving, loves humanity more than any man could ever love another man. More than an earthly father would love his son. YET God would let people perish in hell for even telling a lie no matter why you tell the lie or how small it is?


- so the best a God can do is to send humans to preach His word?

Oh wait! Seems you don't understand Jesus died in Jerusalem for the sins of the WHOLE world and If anyone dies without christ he was going to end in Hell. Wait! Do you know how many People would have died in Africa, South America, Australia, China, India, europe, before the Gospel reached them? Do you know how many people die per day?

So all these people will go to hell? The clever answer will be NO, the won't go to hell because they did not know. Oh! So if they won't go to hell because they were ignorant, why preach the gospel to them and make them informed and now if they die with the tiniest of sin without christ they end in hell. Why not leave them ignorant so their souls can be saved based on their ignorance.

How long did it take for the gospel of christ to reach the whole world? Is god truely the God of the whole world or of Jews?

It did not just add up.
This whole gospel thing started to crumble the more I thought of it.

That is just a tip of the questions I began to ask God. Of course he had no answer. The same God that reveals other peoples issues to me could not answer this.

continued here: https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian/17#45231153

dontrulee:

Interesting... Same question I keep on asking everyday, I may not know all the answers now but that's not enough reason for me to stop doing the "great commission" many times, I feel like christians who are fanatics or fervent are just mere pawns in the scheme of things. I love the concept of christianity except the aspect of fear "hell" and reward "heaven".

It doesn't even makes sense that I am a sinner because Adam sinned, it's more like saying my hands got burnt because I put my hands in the fire. When christians loose arguments, they threaten with hell and everlasting condemnation. Nonsense!

HardMirror:

I almost went mad too when I began to hallucinate. I would be seeing spirits and there was a time I a very big hand came out of the wall and wanted to touch me. I have many experiences I can't share here.
I am just so glad I am saved now.

Kobojunkie:
Hold up.. what is it you said there about the great commission?

dontrulee:

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. that's the great commission

Kobojunkie:
No,I mean are you saying you have also never really experienced God in Truth - you have no true knowing of Him - but would not stop doing what you call the great commission nevertheless?

dontrulee:


I have experienced God in truth and that's why I can't deny his existence