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Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by Hakeem12(m): 1:25pm On May 11, 2020
Mrviktor:


Exynos is better Dan kirin..
Exynos better than kirin? Stay safe bro, stay safe

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Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by 2kurupt(m): 1:26pm On May 11, 2020
Psychodavidovic:


Pretty stable. But I'd recommend waiting for the next update that drops in like a week time that addresses the current bugs.

I'll just wait for stable release that's expected this May then. I've had enough of AOSP

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Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by Ronin1: 1:27pm On May 11, 2020
This kind arguement sef, everybody sha understood what he meant by the s20 ultra being the flagship. Everything no suppose be fight o

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Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by atheistandproud(m): 1:27pm On May 11, 2020
olayinkajnr:


Lmao. You can't believe how hard I'm laughing RN. He say Exynos better pass Kirin


It's easy to think someone is ignorant until they open their mouth to confirm it. grin

If Exynos are not careful, Mediatek will overtake them.

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Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by Mrviktor(m): 1:31pm On May 11, 2020
Keiyadosh:
......On God u keep missing the point and d more u do,,the more this argument would be futile.... Have u ever used an exynos version of Samsung flagships??Have u ever??Do u see the way they lag??Game play on Helio G90T is a better experience but no u started quoting what each chipset can support or not..e be things oo...and did u just say Exynos is better than Kirin chipsets in d world of chipsets?? cool shocked shocked...Lord safe us
Yes I've said it.
And the benchmarks prove that.
I played cod mobile on my friends s8 exonos version..
U need to see how smooth it was It's way way way way way better Dan when I played it on a friends note 8 and note 8 pro.. I won't just be arguing if I haven't actually gamed on an exonus device.
P. S i use a note 6 pro..
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by 2kurupt(m): 1:35pm On May 11, 2020
Bahddo:
well, technically he's right. Flagship is THE BEST from an OEM, the leading phone in terms of features and quality same way a literal flag ship is a side's main or most important ship in naval warfare.

When a new set of phones are released by the OEM with better specs, the new 'best one' becomes THE flagship, and the former is relegated to terms like 'last year flagship'.

There's technically only one flagship at any time, and although many people interchange 'flagship' with 'high-end' or premium', they don't mean the exact same thing.

I don't think Samsung follows this rule since they released the Note series. We both know they max out the top S series and Note series of every given year so you can't really say it's just 1 flagship device per year.

Other OEMs too have long abandoned the idea of a sole flagship per year.

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Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by 2kurupt(m): 1:50pm On May 11, 2020
festwiz:

Thanks a lot bro. People tend to misuse the word for any high-end device.

True, OEM marketers have been throwing up fancy words to push their sales thereby confusing consumers.

But let's not debate just for the sake of it. The word "flagship" is a naval/military word which implies the ship carrying the Commander in a naval fleet or group of ships flying his flag. This can also be used to correlate the meaning when used on a product or range of products.

With these few points of mine I hope I've been able to prove to you that a flagship is not necessarily a single item of a product released within a product's life cycle? grin

Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by Bahddo(m): 1:56pm On May 11, 2020
fibonacci2526:



I don't know how I can explain to y'all that a company can have more than one flagship device at the same time. Quoting the literal meaning of flagship from the dictionary doesn't always apply to phones.

The S and note series have always been known as the flagship devices for Samsung. Can you tentatively say the s20 ultra is better than the s20,s20+ in all ways or that the mi 10 pro beats the mi 10 in all areas too? OEMs produce flagship devices tailored for different people.



'high-end' != 'flagship'

You are talking about high-end devices but it's okay though, we can agree to disagree. The subject isn't worth the argument.

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Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by 2kurupt(m): 1:57pm On May 11, 2020
fibonacci2526:



I don't know how I can explain to y'all that a company can have more than one flagship device at the same time. Quoting the literal meaning of flagship from the dictionary doesn't always apply to phones.

The S and note series have always been known as the flagship devices for Samsung. Can you tentatively say the s20 ultra is better than the s20,s20+ in all ways or that the mi 10 pro beats the mi 10 in all areas too? OEMs produce flagship devices tailored for different people.



Lol, the dictionary actually explains it like you did on the first sentence.
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by fibonacci2526: 2:03pm On May 11, 2020
2kurupt:


Lol, the dictionary actually explains it like you did on the first sentence.


lollll, me don run comot for this thread cos of the incessant bickering and all what not. Sabinus don too plenty for here. Shalom oooo.
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by 2kurupt(m): 2:04pm On May 11, 2020
Bahddo:


'high-end' != 'flagship'

You are talking about high-end devices but it's okay though, we can agree to disagree. The subject isn't worth the argument.


That word high-end was created by OEM marketers with respect to market segmentation. The flagship itself is a high-end device.

Just like social stratification, device categories are mainly split into 3;
entry level ->mid range->high end etc Along the line subcategories were created within these 3 categories.

Don't let fancy marketing words throw you off.
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by xoftxoul: 2:06pm On May 11, 2020
olayinkajnr:


Lmao. You can't believe how hard I'm laughing RN. He say Exynos better pass Kirin
My boss, there are surprises every week on this thread o cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by Bahddo(m): 2:11pm On May 11, 2020
2kurupt:


I don't think Samsung follows this rule since they released the Note series. We both know they max out the top S series and Note series of every given year so you can't really say it's just 1 flagship device per year.

Other OEMs too have long abandoned the idea of a sole flagship per year.
it's not really something an OEM decides/abandons though. It's like saying parents have abandoned the idea of a sole 'first born'. Even if they are twins/triplets, one comes first.

Popular usage of the term has somewhat broadened to include just about any premium or high-end device, even if that's not what it really means.

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Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by Bahddo(m): 2:14pm On May 11, 2020
2kurupt:


That word high-end was created by OEM marketers with respect to market segmentation. The flagship itself is a high-end device.

Just like social stratification, device categories are mainly split into 3;
entry level ->mid range->high end etc Along the line subcategories were created within these 3 categories.

Don't let fancy marketing words throw you off.

They don't mean the exact same thing bro. Not every high-end device is a flagship.

Not sure why this is even an argument.
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by Timiflexi: 2:18pm On May 11, 2020
I just bought/got my redmi note 8 pro 128gb
Grey colour.....would have loved a better colour but that's the only thing they had
98k5h
Please if there's anything I need to know to improve the phone I would really appreciate
And a very big thank you to everyone who contributes comments here
Y'all made me love Xiaomi and get this phone
Hopefully I won't regret this

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Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by Bahddo(m): 2:21pm On May 11, 2020
2kurupt:


True, OEM marketers have been throwing up fancy words to push their sales thereby confusing consumers.

But let's not debate just for the sake of it. The word "flagship" is a naval/military word which implies the ship carrying the Commander in a naval fleet or group of ships flying his flag. This can also be used to correlate the meaning when used on a product or range of products.

With these few points of mine I hope I've been able to prove to you that a flagship is not necessarily a single item of a product released within a product's life cycle? grin
lol. Your screenshot actually refers to just one ship. Read it properly.

There is ONE ship carrying the commander and his flag. Now the commander could be in charge of a fleet or a subdivision of a fleet. The subdivision isn't an alternate meaning of the flagship, but defines an alternate scope of the commander's authority.

Lemme rest sha, since people see every argument as bickering even if it's a way we learn.
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by Bahddo(m): 2:23pm On May 11, 2020
Timiflexi:
I just bought/got my redmi note 8 pro 128gb
Grey colour.....would have loved a better colour but that's the only thing they had
98k5h
Please if there's anything I need to know to improve the phone I would really appreciate
And a very big thank you to everyone who contributes comments here
Y'all made me love Xiaomi and get this phone
Hopefully I won't regret this
Congrats man, RN8 pro is a nice buy and all the more so if you love gaming.
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by festwiz(m): 2:27pm On May 11, 2020
Bahddo:


They don't mean the exact same thing bro. Not every high-end device is a flagship.

Not sure why this is even an argument.
Beats me bro, even a quick Google search is more than enough.

This is GSMA... Flagship guide for last year...

https://m.gsmarena.com/best_flagship_phones_buyers_guide-review-2027.php

Maybe they don't know what a flagship device means as well.

Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by genius43(m): 2:29pm On May 11, 2020
Timiflexi:
I just bought/got my redmi note 8 pro 128gb
Grey colour.....would have loved a better colour but that's the only thing they had
98k5h
Please if there's anything I need to know to improve the phone I would really appreciate
And a very big thank you to everyone who contributes comments here
Y'all made me love Xiaomi and get this phone
Hopefully I won't regret this

Start from the Xiaomi Compilation thread
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by IKON360(m): 2:33pm On May 11, 2020
Bahddo:
lol. Your screenshot actually refers to just one ship. Read it properly.

There is ONE ship carrying the commander and his flag. Now the commander could be in charge of a fleet or a subdivision of a fleet. The subdivision isn't an alternate meaning of the flagship, but defines an alternate scope of the commander's authority.

Lemme rest sha, since people see every argument as bickering even if it's a way we learn.
Actually from what you have said, there is a lot of sense to it. Look at Xiaomi's offerings for the year, MI 10 and Mi 10 pro are not the same. One is obviously better than the other though both use "flagship processors" but everything isn't flagship in them, for one thing according to techtablets Mi 10 pro has a better screen, faster charging, better camera offerings and a few other features that distinguish it from the vanilla Mi 10. The first thing they share in common to support the flagship description according to madam Fibonacci is the processor, aside that we can't say Mi 10 is the flagship na?
Also consider that the same flagship processor is in K30pro but the K30pro doesn't have some features that the Mi 10 has which also lacks some features that the Mi 10 pro has. In essence, following the strict definition of flagship, the Xiaomi flagship is the Mi 10pro cos it has top of the line tech without any compromises, unlike the Mi 10 and the K30pro.
So I believe it all boils down to one question, what needs to exist for a phone or phones to be called flagship? If only one phone has it and others from the same OEM don't, that means only one phone is the flagship, not all of the phones launched by that OEM

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Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by festwiz(m): 2:34pm On May 11, 2020
festwiz:

Beats me bro, even a quick Google search is more than enough.

This is GSMA... Flagship guide for last year...

https://m.gsmarena.com/best_flagship_phones_buyers_guide-review-2027.php

Maybe they don't know what a flagship device means as well.

Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by festwiz(m): 2:40pm On May 11, 2020
IKON360:

OEM

Great way to put it bro. This was a discussion I had with several of my friends when the Pocophone F1 launched. After MKBHD's review, he said that it has a flagship processor, but it was a midrange device. Device with such designation were first made by OnePlus and they called them "Flagship Killers".

These days however, OEMs make slight variations to justify a $200 price hike from the vanilla models. Usually, a better camera system, a beefier battery, slightly larger and higher screen resolution, and maybe a few lifestyle features like a wood frame or ceramic.

Despite these changes been subtle sometimes, it doesn't make the vanilla device a better or "on par" with the flagship.

With the recent smartphone classes, GSMA...made the new categories below

Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by Tiger2020(m): 2:42pm On May 11, 2020
olayinkajnr:


Lmao. You can't believe how hard I'm laughing RN. He say Exynos better pass Kirin
its obvious he knows noting about what he was arguing

Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by Tiger2020(m): 2:44pm On May 11, 2020
Mrviktor:

Yes I've said it.
And the benchmarks prove that.
I played cod mobile on my friends s8 exonos version..
U need to see how smooth it was It's way way way way way better Dan when I played it on a friends note 8 and note 8 pro.. I won't just be arguing if I haven't actually gamed on an exonus device.
P. S i use a note 6 pro..
you just shot yourself on the leg
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by Tiger2020(m): 2:49pm On May 11, 2020
Bahddo:
it's not really something an OEM decides/abandons though. It's like saying parents have abandoned the idea of a sole 'first born'. Even if they are twins/triplets, one comes first.

Popular usage of the term has somewhat broadened to include just about any premium or high-end device, even if that's not what it really means.
keep confusing yourself

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Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by lovelani(m): 2:50pm On May 11, 2020
iKingsley:
is your order shipped yet?
Mine is not updating since Thursday last week

Yes it's been shipped and no update since on the 6th.
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by Keiyadosh: 2:52pm On May 11, 2020
Mrviktor:

Yes I've said it.
And the benchmarks prove that.
I played cod mobile on my friends s8 exonos version..
U need to see how smooth it was It's way way way way way better Dan when I played it on a friends note 8 and note 8 pro.. I won't just be arguing if I haven't actually gamed on an exonus device.
P. S i use a note 6 pro..
who else has noticed that whenever una wan confuse us for this thread,,u go dey talk my friend my friend... Something u know we can't prove...A man like you did a video and put on YouTube bhet no u re arguing with what was recorded live on �... Please gather those ur two friends together,,do a 5 hour intense gaming ranging from Pubg to COD to Asphalt 9...record am make we see am

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Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by Bahddo(m): 2:52pm On May 11, 2020
IKON360:

Actually from what you have said, there is a lot of sense to it. Look at Xiaomi's offerings for the year, MI 10 and Mi 10 pro are not the same. One is obviously better than the other though both use "flagship processors" but everything isn't flagship in them, for one thing according to techtablets Mi 10 pro has a better screen, faster charging, better camera offerings and a few other features that distinguish it from the vanilla Mi 10. The first thing they share in common to support the flagship description according to madam Fibonacci is the processor, aside that we can't say Mi 10 is the flagship na?
Also consider that the same flagship processor is in K30pro but the K30pro doesn't have some features that the Mi 10 has which also lacks some features that the Mi 10 pro has. In essence, following the strict definition of flagship, the Xiaomi flagship is the Mi 10pro cos it has top of the line tech without any compromises, unlike the Mi 10 and the K30pro.
So I believe it all boils down to one question, what needs to exist for a phone or phones to be called flagship? If only one phone has it and others from the same OEM don't, that means only one phone is the flagship, not all of the phones launched by that OEM
when you say flagship processor, what do you have in mind?

'Processor in a flagship phone'?

Just like phone OEMs, makers of SoCs also have their 'best'. The SD 865 is currently the Snapdragon flagship processor. Its presence in a phone isn't what makes the phone flagship. It's more of that device's rank amongst other devices by the same OEM.

Yes, Mi 10 pro is currently Xiaomi's flagship. It has the highest overall quality/value in any Xiaomi phone.
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by Bahddo(m): 2:53pm On May 11, 2020
Tiger2020:
keep confusing yourself
ok na.
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by Mrviktor(m): 2:56pm On May 11, 2020
Keiyadosh:
who else has noticed that whenever una wan confuse us for this thread,,u go dey talk my friend my friend... Something u know we can't prove...A man like you did a video and put on YouTube bhet no u re arguing with what was recorded live on �... Please gather those ur two friends together,,do a 5 hour intense gaming ranging from Pubg to COD to Asphalt 9...record am make we see am

After the lock down.
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by Keiyadosh: 3:02pm On May 11, 2020
Mrviktor:

Yes I've said it.
And the benchmarks prove that.
I played cod mobile on my friends s8 exonos version..
U need to see how smooth it was It's way way way way way better Dan when I played it on a friends note 8 and note 8 pro.. I won't just be arguing if I haven't actually gamed on an exonus device.
P. S i use a note 6 pro..
That u use a Xiaomi or not is not the issue here...stop bringing irrelevant stuffs to an argument...I for one don't really believe in benchmarks since the days of Samsung being caught cheating on S4... Bring both phones and lets watch their live performance.... Snapdragon 865 beat the a13 bionic is some benchmarks ,,I have watched speed test videos of the iPhone 11 pro max vs the mi 10 pro and that was not the same story... iPhone 11 pro max beat d mi 10 on c4E tech's video....If Samsung Exynos's chipsets were so good like u claim ,,why do they have to keep making Snapdragon variants for their devices??their devices record more sales on the Snapdragon variants even in regions where there are not supplied to,,there are demands for it...Huawei 's Kirin 810 didn't lead mid-range benchmarks to be disrespected like this.... Bruhhh...stop am
Re: The Xiaomi Thread. by iKingsley(m): 3:13pm On May 11, 2020
lovelani:


Yes it's been shipped and no update since on the 6th.
I didn't know DHL to be this slow

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