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Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by miketayo(m): 6:00pm On May 10, 2016
Antiparticle:
Ok since you are such a fan of the Bible, including the Old Testament, how do you interpret this verse?
Deut 25:11-12 "11 If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, 12 you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity."

The Bible is not a reliable book for moral decision-making.


Christians dont follow d laws of the old testament.. dats for the jews. Jesus explained those laws in the old testament clearer.. moreover Jesus gave us just 2 commandments which is love of God and love ur neighbors as urself.. which contradicts dat passage literally .

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Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by Antiparticle(m): 6:01pm On May 10, 2016
Stop using the tool of fear and eternal torment to truncate his/her skepticism. There is no hell, there is no heaven. Live your life and follow the golden rule of doing unto others as you would be done to you.

Deities are human constructs. Religion is a human invention. Christianity and Islam are the religions of the enslavers.
captainrock:

renounce the religion na odeh, nobody will escort u to hell. read your bible n stop weighing your religion on a fellow man mistake
Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by micxwell(m): 6:02pm On May 10, 2016
Proulyzoogerian:
I had a gf I dated for 4 years. On this very good day she needed financial assistance to buy material in school, she requested 5k, I gave her 7k. 2k for pocket na. 2 days after she was sounding dull on phone, I insisted what the matter was, she told me she donated 5k to church, and she still needed to get her materials if I can give her another 5k, I almost slapped her on phone.

At a particular period she needed to pay her school fees and the due date was within 10 days from when she mentioned to me. According to her, her parents was going to get it probably a week after the due date elapse. I Borrowed her 25k to prevent her from paying extra charges and to pay back when her parents Pay. I asked her for the money a day after the fixed date they sent her the money but unfortunately she had used 20k from the money for donations in her church. I was mad, her conclusion was, anything she does for church, I'm always against it that I'm a devil. I was shocked. Honestly we broke the following month. The way people are so brainwashed ehn.

Oga, go pay your brother school fees. Or else no one will epp you and what matters mostly is that God understands that you wish to pay your tithe but your brothers problem stands

Truth is whether you like it or not. You pay or you don't pay, over 500 people will still pay their tithe, your change which will help your brothers current problem

This one is utter foolishness....
Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by afroxyz: 6:05pm On May 10, 2016
pimplucious:
To helll with tithe bro pay ur bro fees. What a question angry
Absolutely. What a question.
Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by richiepauls: 6:12pm On May 10, 2016
UncleDeeee:
There is no compromise when it comes to tithing.
Asking the question means you have separated your tithe from other expenditure. Remove money from any other expenditure and pay the fee and the faith you exercised in paying your tithe shall be manifested.

One of the sensible posts on this trend as far as I'm concerned cool

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Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by afroxyz: 6:16pm On May 10, 2016
When the pharisees asked Jesus why he performed miracles on the sabbath day what did he tell them? Jesus in return asked if any of them would mot retrieve his sheep that fell into the well on a sabbath. Use your head bro. Pay your brother's school fees. God and your brother, who need the money pass? My lord, what a question! Seeing the replies on this thread is even more shocking

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Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by Antiparticle(m): 6:28pm On May 10, 2016
If Christians do not follow the Old Testament, then why do the Christian doctrines of salvation, the "original sin", the "God the Father" concept, the creation story, etc all hinge on the Old Testament? Also, why is the Old Testament (OT) in the Bible then? Why did Jesus say that he came not to abolish the law but to fulfil the law (as in OT law)?

Without belief in the fairy tales of the Old Testament, Christianity would not have a complete doctrine. So yes, Christians believe in the Old Testament. Christians believe that Yahweh is Jesus and Jesus is Yahweh through the human-invented concept of the Trinity. Therefore Jesus (through his Yahweh stunt double) commanded slavery, genocide, infanticide, and all that in the Old Testament. The Christian concept of the Trinity means that Jesus is the same tyrannical entity in the Old Testament.

Those who advocate tithing follow the Old Testament, yet are quick to reject it when people point out its unsavory contents. Why would a good God be such a callous and inhumane racial supremacist as in the OT?

In any case, even the New Testament is not free of discrimination and prejudice. The Apostle Paul was sexist against women, and was pro-slavery; he commanded the runaway slave Onesimus to return back to his master Philemon. If Paul was a good man, it makes no sense that he would be more sympathetic to the slave master than the slave.

Also, Jesus did not invent the idea of "love your neighbor as yourself"; Confucious in China several centuries before Jesus came up with the golden rule of do unto others as would be done unto you. You don't need to be Christian to be a good person. Humans have had traits of both good and bad before religion and since the dawn of human origins.
miketayo:
Christians dont follow d laws of the old testament.. dats for the jews. Jesus explained those laws in the old testament clearer.. moreover Jesus gave us just 2 commandments which is love of God and love ur neighbors as urself.. which contradicts dat passage literally .
Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by easytech1(m): 6:31pm On May 10, 2016
Otth:
Okay, this is a challenge I need a solution to. My parents are saying no money no money when it is obvious that they have. My little brother is home because he has outstanding fees so I was wondering if I should give him my tithe to pay part while I pay the tithe next month when I get my next salary, I don't know what to do.

Mods please move it to fp, I need urgent solution to this.

STUPIDITY is when you don't have a bicycle
and you give your last penny to your pastor
to buy a jet.
MUMU is when you can't pay your
children's school fees and yet have money
to contribute to your church to build
expensive schools which your children will
never attend
Odensin is when your brother needs money for school fees but you decide to use the same money to pay tithe.
IGNORANCE is when you believe it when
your pastor tells you not to live a worldly life
yet he enjoys all the best things in the
world; the fine houses, cars, jets, babes, etc
while you are waiting till you get to heaven
to enjoy your own.
IDIOCY is when you refuse to take your very
sick child to the hospital because your
pastor said you should not do so yet that
same pastor secretly runs to USA for
medical attention any time he has a
headache.hope u have a nice weekend

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Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by Nobody: 6:47pm On May 10, 2016
podosci:

Lmao grin grin grin

Sorry for you mr laughing gas. You lack understanding.
Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by Tpsworld: 6:54pm On May 10, 2016
You don't pay tithe! You return tithe and mind you, you are not doing God any favour for returning your tithe. Return your tithe and see how God will bless you to pay your brother school fee
Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by ss1930(m): 7:01pm On May 10, 2016
miketayo:

how ll God sack you from work? dats d devils job.. how do u view God exactly?

Psalm 75:7 says...
New International Version
It is God who judges: He brings one down, he exalts another.

New Living Translation
It is God alone who judges; he decides who will rise and who will fall.

English Standard Version
but it is God who executes judgment, putting down one and lifting up another.

New American Standard Bible
But God is the Judge; He puts down one and exalts another.

King James Bible
But God is the judge: he putteth down one, and setteth up another.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
for God is the Judge: He brings down one and exalts another.

International Standard Version
since God is the judge. This one he will debase or that one he will exalt.

HIS sword is two edged sword, one side for blessing, the other for destruction. Hope this helps
Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by afroxyz: 7:04pm On May 10, 2016
From the comments here I can conclude that people pay their tithes for one reason, and a selfish one at that. TO RECEIVE BLESSINGS. In other words, people would refuse to help those who are in need because they want to receive blessings from God. Is that not selfishness?

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Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by akankemi1(f): 7:17pm On May 10, 2016
very stupid question
Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by micxwell(m): 7:19pm On May 10, 2016
AyeeIdris:
Some questions eh! God is a spiritual being. He does not need your money. The ten commandments did not mention tithes. Tithes go to the church. The church will survive without your tithe. Your brother's education will suffer. Think wisely.

No shade to Christains but when some people say you pay your tithes for God's blessing. It begs the question. Is God a money doubler? Give me 100 naira and i will give one million? Or does he need to be bribed? Isnt having a good heart, living a righteous life and loving everyone enough to earn you his love and blessing?? Faith is great and all but it is also God that gave us common sense. I am pretty sure he intended for us to use it.

We do nt give because we want to get, we give because it is our responsibility to give towards the spread of the gospel.
Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by amparas(m): 7:19pm On May 10, 2016
Hehehe, Seriously grin grin
Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by IRserveMyComent(f): 7:19pm On May 10, 2016
LucifersTongue:


Well, what can I say, 2-3 generations of really shitty educational standards have produced your kind - overly religious and irrational.

The scary thing is that your kind is many in the country!

I pity your siblings...
More pity to yourself and your entire household.
Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by cosade(m): 7:20pm On May 10, 2016
Does the teaching on tithing in Malachi 3:9-10 apply to us today?

http://www.gotquestions.org/Malachi-tithing.html

Answer: Malachi 3:9-10 is often used to teach the need for Christians to tithe to local churches today. That passage reads, “You are cursed with a curse, for you are robbing me, the whole nation of you. Bring the full tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. And thereby put me to the test, says the LORD of hosts, if I will not open the windows of heaven for you and pour down for you a blessing until there is no more need.” Does this teaching apply to Christians today?

First, the context of this passage concerns the Israelites not bringing their offerings to the temple. Because of their disobedience, God had judged them with a small harvest. The Lord challenged them to bring the “full tithe” of grain sacrifices (Leviticus 6:14-23) and see that He would bless them with an abundance of future crops. The “storehouse,” mentioned in verse 10, is a place to store grain in the temple.

Second, this passage teaches that the Jews were to give a tithe as part of the temple worship, but it does not teach that Christians are to give to churches. Malachi was written more than 400 years before the start of the first church in Jerusalem. Applying its command of temple giving to the local church takes these verses out of their original context.

Are New Testament Christians commanded to tithe or not? To be clear, a tithe is literally a “tenth,” or 10 percent. Abraham gave a tenth of all he had to the priest of Salem in Genesis 14:20. Later, the Mosaic Law included commands to give a tenth for tabernacle worship. Tithing is mentioned 18 times in the Law, as the people were to share their produce and livestock to support the Levites, the caretakers of the tabernacle. This same system of tithing would later be applied to the temple (2 Chronicles 31:5).

Jesus rebuked the religious leaders of His day, saying, “But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and every herb, and neglect justice and the love of God. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others” (Luke 11:42). These Pharisees obeyed the Law of Moses in that they tithed scrupulously, yet did not truly love God. They were challenged to do both.

The Law was fulfilled in Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:17). When the church began to grow beyond the Jewish people and reach Gentiles, leaders struggled with whether or not to command these new believers to follow the Mosaic Law. In the end, only a few instructions were given for the sake of peace, but tithing was not among them (Acts 15:19-21).

The principle in the New Testament is to give voluntarily to support the needs of others (Acts 2:45; Romans 15:25-27), support Christian workers (1 Corinthians 9:11-12; 1 Timothy 5:18), and expand Christian outreach (Philippians 4:15-16). No specific amount is ever commanded, and no percentage is suggested. While a tithe or tenth of one’s finances may be a good standard to use for Christian giving, it is clear the early church did not focus on a specific amount but rather on meeting needs. This sometimes included giving much more than a tenth, as some believers sold homes or land to meet the needs that existed in the church (Acts 4:34-37).

Recommended Resources: Nahum-Malachi, Holman Old Testament Commentary by Stephen Miller and Logos Bible Software.
Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by naijaboiy: 7:24pm On May 10, 2016
meeraclemee:

You are suffering from delusion of grandeur. When you you dont know and you think you know, is the a very big problem!! Who told you paying tithe is dashing a pastor money? Tithe is between the op and God, no third party is included be it father, brother, mother or spoise. Its like giving someone his or her own share of a business deal. Its not in your place to spend ur partners money on his her or her behalf, or tell the person how to spend his share. Not paying tithe is not enriching any pastor if u have understanding is provoking divine bleasings on yourself. When you dont pay tithe,(10% of every increase) you are robbing God.

Instead of this one to explain something calmly he's there throwing jibes and at the end he didn't make sense.

Delusion of grandeur ko delusion of blender ni.

Mtcheew!
Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by Samanza89: 7:30pm On May 10, 2016
crazysaint:
joke not with tithe.... To me i will advice you to pay your tithe first. Now checkout the blessings that follows in payment of tight: The windows of Heaven will be
opened to you.
''Bring ye all the tithes into the
storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now
herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I
will not open you the windows of
heaven, and pour you out a blessing,
that there shall not be room enough
to receive it.'' (KJV)
God promised to pour His blessing to
you, by opening the windows of
Heaven. When your heaven remains
open you will struggle less. little
effort will yield bountiful harvest.
Opportunities will be staring at you
even you are not there the
opportunity will still be waiting for
you.

You don't know what you're talking about. Blindfolded set of Christians. Rubbish!
Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by Nobody: 7:35pm On May 10, 2016
Oga Even the Bible in Prov 4:13, "Education is thy life, guard it well" Master help guard your brothers Education please.... God is Able!!
Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by jtwest(m): 7:51pm On May 10, 2016
Ehmmmmm! Op should I use my money to buy toothpaste or suya?

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Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by efemena24(m): 8:17pm On May 10, 2016
Otth:
Okay, this is a challenge I need a solution to. My parents are saying no money no money when it is obvious that they have. My little brother is home because he has outstanding fees so I was wondering if I should give him my tithe to pay part while I pay the tithe next month when I get my next salary, I don't know what to do.

Mods please move it to fp, I need urgent solution to this.
you don't have to think about it for one second. You should pay your brother's fees....

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Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by otiigba1(m): 8:35pm On May 10, 2016
Methinks you should pay your brother's school fees otherwise pastor will you ues your tithe to pay his own children's school fees grin.
Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by bobkezel(m): 8:36pm On May 10, 2016
My brother pls don't pay ur bros school fees. Pay the tithe first so that your pastor will use it to pay his children's school fees first. Big fo0l.
Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by funshint(m): 8:38pm On May 10, 2016
What's d essence of your tithe when your family is hungry....Nigerians; religiously shallow and wicked set of people. Very pathetic question...no wonder you'll see pple making huge donations in church while their families are living in penury. Many pple think they can bribe God with their tithe. Who tells you God needs your tithe before he can bless you? "Do good unto your neighbours, feed the hungry, give cloth to those that don't hv, give money to d poor...so far as u do it to them; you're doing it to me"...Jesus Christ. God sees d heart not your action. So your brother cannot pay his school fees with d possibility of his education being at risk yet you can go to d front of your pastor to pay your silly tithe?! I swear God will reject that your tithe like d sacrifice of Cain...if I were your brother I will dis-brother u 4 life. I wonder where Nigerians are getting dere demonic doctrines from?! May God help us!
Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by otiigba1(m): 8:39pm On May 10, 2016
crazysaint:
joke not with tithe.... To me i will advice you to pay your tithe first. Now checkout the blessings that follows in payment of tight: The windows of Heaven will be
opened to you.
''Bring ye all the tithes into the
storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now
herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I
will not open you the windows of
heaven, and pour you out a blessing,
that there shall not be room enough
to receive it.'' (KJV)
God promised to pour His blessing to
you, by opening the windows of
Heaven. When your heaven remains
open you will struggle less. little
effort will yield bountiful harvest.
Opportunities will be staring at you
even you are not there the
opportunity will still be waiting for
you.
this must be a joke Right? grin grin grin i can bet my ass you believe his Reward is in heaven too. Right?
Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by juzo98(m): 8:57pm On May 10, 2016
Who tithe Don epp? Oga pay the school fees
Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by KingRex1(m): 9:07pm On May 10, 2016
meeraclemee:

You need urgent help from the holyspirit to understand the scriptures, thats all i can tell you, explaining to you will just be a pure waste of time and energy!!
Its quite evident that you've been brainwashed by a pastor that lays so much emphasis on tithes nd wealth almost evry sunday bt rarely preaches love, compassion nd salvation.

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Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by Frankamah11(m): 9:19pm On May 10, 2016
Brother, please and please, ruunnnnnn as long as your leg can carry you and pay your brothers school fees FIRST. What's these,huh?? Do u think God wants your money when He, is the source of EVERYTHING?? its the heart not that cash that God judges!
There are quite some things that Christians should understand about this tithe giving abeg!
I think its just like seeing a fellow brethren homeless and unclad begging at ur feet for that money and your comfortable rich pastor in an A.C-ed car and house asking for that same money. And then you wanna throw the money to ur pastors?? Hmmm
"Whose ever you do to the least of this brothers,that you do unto me.when I was hungry u gave me....thirsty,u gave me......homeless,u gave me...."
If u truely request my opinion which I know u did, I OPINE U PAY UR BROTHERS SCHOOL FEES.

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Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by Zieristclair(m): 9:20pm On May 10, 2016
bloody stupid fake topic!
Re: Should I Pay My Tithe Or Pay My Brother's School Fees? by Frankamah11(m): 9:24pm On May 10, 2016
rother, please and please, ruunnnnnn as long as your leg can carry you and pay your brothers school fees FIRST. What's these,huh?? Do u think God wants your money when He, is the source of EVERYTHING?? its the heart not that cash that God judges!
There are quite some things that Christians should understand about this tithe giving abeg!
I think its just like seeing a fellow brethren homeless and unclad begging at ur feet for that money and your comfortable rich pastor in an A.C-ed car and house asking for that same money. And then you wanna throw the money to ur pastors?? Hmmm
"Whose ever you do to the least of this brothers,that you do unto me.when I was hungry u gave me....thirsty,u gave me......homeless,u gave me...."
If u truely request my opinion which I know u did, I OPINE U PAY UR BROTHERS SCHOOL FEES.

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