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The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by GlorifiedTunde(m): 9:27pm On May 29, 2016
GEJ took over a better economy with enough in the reserves and debt-free with $/barrel higher, spent six years and made it worse.

PMB took over a terribly sick economy with depleted reserves and great debt; he has only spent a year.


If this still looks biased to anyone, then you're not objective enough.

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Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by jamace(m): 12:25am On May 30, 2016
GlorifiedTunde:
GEJ took over a better economy with enough in the reserves and debt-free with $/barrel higher, spent six years and made it worse.

PMB took over a terribly sick economy with depleted reserves and great debt; he has only spent a year.


If this still looks biased to anyone, then you're not objective enough.
But prices of items where lower in GEJ era. Why are the prices of items hitting the roof top in Buhari era? Don't you think GEJ had a better economic policy than Buhari?

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Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by GlorifiedTunde(m): 1:05am On May 30, 2016
jamace:
But prices of items where lower in GEJ era. Why are the prices of items hitting the roof top in Buhari era? Don't you think GEJ had a better economic policy than Buhari?

That's not true.

What we're currently experiencing is an after effect of the past leadership.

My perfect illustration is that PMB took over guardianship of a child from GEJ.
But by the time PMB undressed this child in order to dress him with a beautiful clothe, he found out that a lot of sores and injuries had been hidden under the cloth initially. What is to be done before clothing the child with new clothes is to first treat the sores and wounds - this is usually painful; application of iodine or methylated spirit.

This is actually our current state - but people don't want to understand that our wounds must heal first, and that takes some time.

Thanks

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Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by Nobody: 1:26am On May 30, 2016
jamace:
But prices of items where lower in GEJ era. Why are the prices of items hitting the roof top in Buhari era? Don't you think GEJ had a better economic policy than Buhari?

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Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by mikolo80: 4:08am On May 30, 2016
jamace:
But prices of items where lower in GEJ era. Why are the prices of items hitting the roof top in Buhari era? Don't you think GEJ had a better economic policy than Buhari?
and for your mind you cannot see that this is Jonathan's fault. (actually all former president's, govs, senators awww you get the point)

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Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by mikolo80: 4:09am On May 30, 2016
jamace:
But prices of items where lower in GEJ era. Why are the prices of items hitting the roof top in Buhari era? Don't you think GEJ had a better economic policy than Buhari?
do you not understand concept of demand and supply

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Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by mikolo80: 4:11am On May 30, 2016
enter farm. all can be produced locally

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Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by FagsamPHP(m): 5:29am On May 30, 2016
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Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by chriskosherbal(m): 5:38am On May 30, 2016
Nigeria will be great again.
Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by jamace(m): 6:47am On May 30, 2016
mikolo80:
do you not understand concept of demand and supply
Are you saying people buy more things now than GEJ era? Eg, are you saying people eat more garri now than GEJ era that the price of garri has hit the roof top.?

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Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by jamace(m): 7:02am On May 30, 2016
mikolo80:
and for your mind you cannot see that this is Jonathan's fault. (actually all former president's, govs, senators awww you get the point)
Things are supposed to be cheaper now then because there is no much money, meaning no much demand for goods (based on your demand and supply stance).

I tell you the truth bro, Buhari economic politicies caused the skyrocketting of prices. Reasons are:
1. You dont just close borders without producing your own items. With Nigeria not producing anything, Buhari closed the borders and this encouraged smuggling. Buhari was supposed to ensure that Nigeria has started producing her own items, at least to a reasonable level, before closing borders. Buhari closed borders in EXPECTATION that we shall start producing hence the skyrocketing of goods.
2. Buhari denied flow of forex for importers which led to importers buying forex from blackmarket to import goods. What do you expect when forex is sourced at higher prices to import goods? Higher cost of items, of course.

APC and indeed Buhari should be practical instead of doing things in EXPECTATION.

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Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by GlorifiedTunde(m): 8:14am On May 30, 2016
mikolo80:
and for your mind you cannot see that this is Jonathan's fault. (actually all former president's, govs, senators awww you get the point)

There are quite a number of kids on NL. Just imagine their understanding on this matter undecided

Many people because of tribalism or religion or partisanship decide not to see the real truth.

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Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by blackpanda: 8:26am On May 30, 2016
jamace:
But prices of items where lower in GEJ era. Why are the prices of items hitting the roof top in Buhari era? Don't you think GEJ had a better economic policy than Buhari?

Did u even read the post at all?? Ur questions have already been answered
Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by blackpanda: 8:32am On May 30, 2016
jamace:
Things are supposed to be cheaper now then because there is no much money, meaning no much demand for goods (based on your demand and supply stance).

I tell you the truth bro, Buhari economic politicies caused the skyrocketting of prices. Reasons are:
1. You dont just close borders without producing your own items. With Nigeria not producing anything, Buhari closed the borders and this encouraged smuggling. Buhari was supposed to ensure that Nigeria has started producing her own items, at least to a reasonable level, before closing borders. Buhari closed borders in EXPECTATION that we shall start producing hence the skyrocketing of goods.
2. Buhari denied flow of forex for importers which led to importers buying forex from blackmarket to import goods. What do you expect when forex is sourced at higher prices to import goods? Higher cost of items, of course.

APC and indeed Buhari should be practical instead of doing things in EXPECTATION.

Omg! Where do these people come from?? Closed which borders biko And do u even have the forex to import? Gone are the days of importing toothpick and toilet roll. Oil is now $40 a barrel. Nigeria is broke

And fyi we are producing. Our major problem is packaging, storage and exporting. Nigeria is alreay producing rice and sorghum on a large scale. So pls check facts b4 posting

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Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by jamace(m): 8:44am On May 30, 2016
blackpanda:


Omg! Where do these people come from?? Closed which borders biko And do u even have the forex to import? Gone are the days of importing toothpick and toilet roll. Oil is now $40 a barrel. Nigeria is broke

And fyi we are producing. Our major problem is packaging, storage and exporting. Nigeria is alreay producing rice and sorghum on a large scale. So pls check facts b4 posting
If you are producing rice, why has a bag of rice moved from about N7k to about N20k per bag? And how much are you buying the toothpick and toilet roll today? And has Buhari established tookpick and toilet roll producing factories?

Stop talking theory. Nigerians are suffering. APC should know that electioneering campaign ended a year ago.
Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by jamace(m): 8:47am On May 30, 2016
blackpanda:


Did u even read the post at all?? Ur questions have already been answered
What you stated in your post are lame excuses and not the problems. Stop giving excuses for APC lack of direction.
Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by globexpo: 8:57am On May 30, 2016
All these comparison as if we are still campaigning. If government is a continum, Nigerians are supposed to be feeling better by now
Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by GlorifiedTunde(m): 9:03am On May 30, 2016
chriskosherbal:
Nigeria will be great again.

I am quite certain of that also.

If only people will shun sentiments and support this administration.

By the kind of people in Nigeria will give you a hundred reasons why you should not arrest a corrupt politician in the name of tribalism, religion and partisanship.

Imagine someone who has a brain empathizing with either boko haram or Fulani herdsmen or Niger Delta Avengers ...

This is sickening! angry angry
Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by iblawi(m): 9:05am On May 30, 2016
jamace:
But prices of items where lower in GEJ era. Why are the prices of items hitting the roof top in Buhari era? Don't you think GEJ had a better economic policy than Buhari?
everything was good for him because those before him left the country in good shape and the he also sold oil at the highest price without saving. Instead he left huge debt.
Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by blackpanda: 9:09am On May 30, 2016
jamace:
What you stated in your post are lame excuses and not the problems. Stop giving excuses for APC lack of direction.

Once again u didnt read. Just jump in to comment based on preconceived bias. Its not my post sir!
Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by blackpanda: 9:12am On May 30, 2016
jamace:
If you are producing rice, why has a bag of rice moved from about N7k to about N20k per bag? And how much are you buying the toothpick and toilet roll today? And has Buhari established tookpick and toilet roll producing factories?

Stop talking theory. Nigerians are suffering. APC should know that electioneering campaign ended a year ago.

Thats because u keep purchasing imported poison in d form of rice over locally produced ones. And yes, we have several toilet roll factories in nigeria. We dont need to import!
Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by phranq(m): 9:19am On May 30, 2016
GlorifiedTunde:
GEJ took over a better economy with enough in the reserves and debt-free with $/barrel higher, spent six years and made it worse.

PMB took over a terribly sick economy with depleted reserves and great debt; he has only spent a year.


If this still looks biased to anyone, then you're not objective enough.


Wen Buhari usurped Shagari....why did he not fight for corruption?? Wen GEJ took over...why did he not look into OBJ's regime?? is GEJ's regime d only regime we hv had in dis country?? wen u fail a course in d university (datz if u attended any higher institution) do u focus all ua energy n attention on dat course instead of reading hard to cover up on oda courses? J. Rawlings of Ghana fought corruption remember oooo.....shea na so PMB dey do him own Rawlings did his abi?? a president dat only dwells on discussing d negative aspects of d country...hw do u xpct investors to cm ova?? d abacha loot dat was recovered during OBJ's regime where is it?? is dat one not Nigeria's moni? Oga face ua work oooo. an Igbo adage goes thus " ka anyi hapu efem fere efe chuwa ewem ga-ewe ihe" ( u can beg any of ua Igbo frndz to xpln)
Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by GlorifiedTunde(m): 9:35am On May 30, 2016
phranq:



Wen Buhari usurped Shagari....why did he not fight for corruption?? Wen GEJ took over...why did he not look into OBJ's regime?? is GEJ's regime d only regime we hv had in dis country??
wen u fail a course in d university (datz if u attended any higher institution) do u focus all ua energy n attention on dat course instead of reading hard to cover up on oda courses? J. Rawlings of Ghana fought corruption remember oooo.....shea na so PMB dey do him own Rawlings did his abi?? a president dat only dwells on discussing d negative aspects of d country...hw do u xpct investors to cm ova?? d abacha loot dat was recovered during OBJ's regime where is it?? is dat one not Nigeria's moni? Oga face ua work oooo. an Igbo adage goes thus " ka anyi hapu efem fere efe chuwa ewem ga-ewe ihe" ( u can beg any of ua Igbo frndz to xpln)

You see the issues with your argument now is the problem we're currently facing in this country.

Because a regime failed to probe the previous means we must continue that way? We should keep accepting corruption and non accountability as our way of life and we'll progress?
Does the fact that your forefathers make a mistake mean that you should continue?
Foolishness is to keep doing things the same way and expect a change.
And besides, OBJ that you're talking about left Nigeria debt free and with a robust treasury - I'm not saying he's not corrupt.

But this time around, Nigeria has been plunged back into serious debt with depleted reserves.

So what money will PMB work with?? angry angry
Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by mycrr04(m): 9:51am On May 30, 2016
Buhari..like every other president in the past is a corrupt, greedy and self centred. He is not bothered about the goodwill of the masses. He does not care about the economy. He is old. He doesnt like to worry. Its nt good for his health. I appreciate the faith some nigerians have in him. But Buhari like every other president in the past is Corrupt..
Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by phranq(m): 10:16am On May 30, 2016
GlorifiedTunde:


You see the issues with your argument now is the problem we're currently facing in this country.

We should keep accepting corruption and non accountability as our
Because a regime failed to probe the previous means we must continue that way? way of life and we'll progress?
Does the fact that your forefathers make a mistake mean that you should continue?
Foolishness is to keep doing things the same way and expect a change.
And besides, OBJ that you're talking about left Nigeria debt free and with a robust treasury - I'm not saying he's not corrupt.

But this time around, Nigeria has been plunged back into serious debt with depleted reserves.

So what money will PMB work with?? angry angry


bros I cnt rmba reading or heard dat GEJ left us in debt.... bros he dat goes to equity must go with clean hands...if u want to fight corruption fight it on all grounds not being selective.
Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by cold(m): 10:36am On May 30, 2016
APC apologists are exactly the kind of people that keep blaming their ancestors for their current woes. Rather than roll up their sleeves and get to work, they sit,sulk and whine on how their father's father brother from their maternal side has been sitting on their progress and has placed a curse on their generation.
Government is a continuum. Every administration inherits liabilities and try to ameliorate the situation or make it better. Truth is buhari has no idea on how to tackle the plethora of problems facing the country. He is grossly incompetent, inept and bereft of ideas. Period!

Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by GlorifiedTunde(m): 10:46am On May 30, 2016
phranq:



bros I cnt rmba reading or heard dat GEJ left us in debt....
bros he dat goes to equity must go with clean hands...if u want to fight corruption fight it on all grounds not being selective.

The you need to acquire knowledge before concluding. Google is your good friend. You could also visit the CBN website for external reserve stats.

Thanks
Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by GlorifiedTunde(m): 10:51am On May 30, 2016
cold:
APC apologists are exactly the kind of people that keep blaming their ancestors for their current woes. Rather than roll up their sleeves and get to work, they sit,sulk and whine on how their father's father brother from their maternal side has been sitting on their progress and has placed a curse on their generation.
Government is a continuum. Every administration inherits liabilities and try to ameliorate the situation or make it better. Truth is buhari has no idea on how to tackle the plethora of problems facing the country. He is grossly incompetent, inept and bereft of ideas. Period!

I have responded to this on another thread.


GlorifiedTunde:


We do not intend blaming.

PMB got to work immediately by demanding for accountability and prosecution of offenders, you guys called it "witch hunt"; then we explained to you why we're doing what is being done, then again you called it blame game.

You definitely don't want Nigeria progressing.
Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by cold(m): 11:14am On May 30, 2016
GlorifiedTunde:


I have responded to this on another thread.

I have no qualms with Buhari prosecuting those that have ràped our commonwealth. In fact, i see that as one of GEJ's greatest undoing. Giving his lieutenants a free reign. Even though the recent arrests and prosecution may look a little lopsided, when the PDP or any other party get into power next they should arrest and prosecute those found to be corrupt in the APC. That should balance things out. After all, it is not the fault of the APC that the PDP failed to prosecute anyone. But is that where governance ends? Have you heard of the term multitasking? What about the economy? What about electricity, what about infrastructure? Why must everything else suffer simply because Buhari is fighting a war on corruption?
Do you have any idea the number of promises APC made pre election? Not one, i repeat, not one has been fulfilled. What did we get instead; a complete volte face and belligerent denial that these promises were ever made. It's really sad how you folks continue to live in denial. Rather, attacking anyone that dared to bare his mind on the current state of affairs and continually blame the previous administration for their inability to perform. The question now is how much longer will the blame game go on?


Even Buhari in his private moments agrees he has no idea what he is doing

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Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by GlorifiedTunde(m): 11:30am On May 30, 2016
cold:

I have no qualms with Buhari prosecuting those that have ràped our commonwealth. In fact, i see that as one of GEJ's greatest undoing. Giving his lieutenants a free reign. Even though the recent arrests and prosecution may look a little lopsided, when the PDP or any other party get into power next they should arrest and prosecute those found to be corrupt in the APC. That should balance things out. After all, it is not the fault of the APC that the PDP failed to prosecute anyone. But is that where governance ends? Have you heard of the term multitasking? What about the economy? What about electricity, what about infrastructure? Why must everything else suffer simply because Buhari is fighting a war on corruption?
Do you have any idea the number of promises APC made pre election? Not one, i repeat, not one has been fulfilled. What did we get instead; a complete volte face and belligerent denial that these promises were ever made. It's really sad how you folks continue to live in denial. Rather, attacking anyone that dared to bare his mind on the current state of affairs and continually blame the previous administration for their inability to perform. The question now is how much longer will the blame game go on?


Even Buhari in his private moments agrees he has no idea what he is doing

Honestly, it is people like you that I love to discuss with. You have really raised intelligent points here. Good one!

As for multitasking : that is why he has ministers. It is practically impossible for him alone to follow up on all. I believe he has picked corruption because that's his specialty - and the truth remains that is the most important part, so that our efforts are not in vain after all.

Maybe not for every appointment, but I believe some ministers will deliver well. Let's not forget that the budjet has just been passed, funsiny is just arriving. I have seen BRF take some steps already.

Concerning the blame game, I believe it cannot stop, as long as we ask them questions and they have to answer. Truth can be bitter, but sometimes its better to call a spade a spade.

I believe we should give them about a year more, them we can assess the again.

Nice submission you got there. wink
Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by richeso: 11:41am On May 30, 2016
GlorifiedTunde:
GEJ took over a better economy with enough in the reserves and debt-free with $/barrel higher, spent six years and made it worse.

PMB took over a terribly sick economy with depleted reserves and great debt; he has only spent a year.


If this still looks biased to anyone, then you're not objective enough.

don't lie to yourself tunde. i hardly respond to lies. but let me try.

1. "enough in the reserves and debt-free" No government have taken a debt-free regime.
2. spent six years, 2 years was an Acting president, actions are limited. not as elected president.
also on the 4yrs, Nigerians where not suffering like this even with bokoharam and ebola , Nigerians are not suffering to this extent.
if bokoharam was not politically motivated, it will be crushed by GEJ regime. we all know this. also there are good achievement in the first 1 year of GEJ even with a strong Opposition ( APC ) blackmailing and discouraging all Good efforts of GEJ regime, things were not as bad as this one.

let the truth prevails. APC is just useless.
Re: The Simplest Analysis Of The Comparison Between GEJ And PMB Regime by GlorifiedTunde(m): 11:46am On May 30, 2016
richeso:


don't lie to yourself tunde. i hardly respond to lies. but let me try.

1. "enough in the reserves and debt-free" No government have taken a debt-free regime.
2. spent six years, 2 years was an Acting president, actions are limited. not as elected president.
also on the 4yrs, Nigerians where not suffering like this even with bokoharam and ebola , Nigerians are not suffering to this extent.
if bokoharam was not politically motivated, it will be crushed by GEJ regime. we all know this. also there are good achievement in the first 1 year of GEJ even with a strong Opposition ( APC ) blackmailing and discouraging all Good efforts of GEJ regime, things were not as bad as this one.

let the truth prevails. APC is just useless.

BULLCRAP!!!

Please support that with facts and figures.

See excuse o!! shocked shocked Acting President is limited kwa!

Chief abeg siddon! I need better analysis.

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