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Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by NigerianScholar: 7:07pm On Jun 03, 2016
ANTONINEUTRON:

U Mean If I Can't Get Admission To My University Of Choice, Jamb Will Send Me To Another University For My Course?
If you dont get in d list of people to b screened. You would be taken to another uni
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by NigerianScholar: 7:09pm On Jun 03, 2016
DrayZee:

"most" you say, not all. What about those who were genuinely affected negatively?
From what happened this year, Jamb is not a trustworthy body. UTME should've been scrapped instead.


People are prone to suffering from bad luck. Av seen many examples in waec neco. Even sat. No body I perfect
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by ANTONINEUTRON(m): 7:11pm On Jun 03, 2016
NigerianScholar:

If you dont get in d list of people to b screened. You would be taken to another uni
But! Will I Influence It Or Jamb Will Select Randomly?
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by FuckTheM0ds(m): 7:19pm On Jun 03, 2016
IamLukas:
Lol!!!
E pain am.
Loser like U,ode.
oponu. E-diot, big fool. Jati Jati. Small rat, stark illiterate. Ugly rodent. Quote me again make thunder strike you. Ode
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by IamLukas(m): 7:24pm On Jun 03, 2016
Lol!
How else can U exert Ur frustration?
No go kill urself oh.
Life is too short for all this hatred.
FuckTheM0ds:
oponu. E-diot, big fool. Jati Jati. Small rat, stark illiterate. Ugly rodent. Quote me again make thunder strike you. Ode
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by ysuhltan(m): 7:24pm On Jun 03, 2016
lwkm.. no be Naija u dey? its nw p.ume is scrapped dat ppl will buy admission more.

Jamb dat is not reliable. so u re telling me its jamb dat ll choose candidates for the uni ba? NOT!.

for example,a course like MBBS ll have many buyers.the rich bags ll have dat nw.
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by FuckTheM0ds(m): 7:34pm On Jun 03, 2016
IamLukas:
Lol!
How else can U exert Ur frustration?
No go kill urself oh.
Life is too short for all this hatred.
hatred you say? Na your type them dey hate? Flibertigibbet
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by DrayZee: 7:41pm On Jun 03, 2016
NigerianScholar:



People are prone to suffering from bad luck. Av seen many examples in waec neco. Even sat. No body I perfect
Prone to suffering from "bad luck" that could be averted if only people at the helm of affairs would reason properly. Abeg, no gimme dah parole joor.
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by ezemme(m): 7:45pm On Jun 03, 2016
I think those that it will favour is the rich and lazy students as they will sort their ways to score unmerited grade..
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by NigerianScholar: 7:52pm On Jun 03, 2016
ANTONINEUTRON:

But! Will I Influence It Or Jamb Will Select Randomly?
It will influence it. A lot of factors will b considered. Eg state of origin. O levels. Etc. Its not going to be random
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by matolysis(m): 7:54pm On Jun 03, 2016
FIVE REASONS WHY POST UTME SHOULD NOT BE SCRAPPED.
"If universities will not become breeding grounds for ill-baked, sophomoric and dilettantish graduates, then, post UTME test must remain to be part of our admission process criteria."
http:///NUi4IJ
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by Theoflux(m): 7:54pm On Jun 03, 2016
No be lie. The best thing has been done to this admission problem. God bless Nigeria, amen.
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by ejomsuccess(m): 8:28pm On Jun 03, 2016
dapsondou:
JAMB should be scrapped. Scrapping post UTME is not the solution. JAMB is not a trusted body.
If each school can organise their own exams on their own and a candidate can apply for as many schools as he/she wants it would be better. He/she will gain admission to
one of them.

And to the op. Your excuse of travelling to write an exam, didn't the candidate know where he/she picked in the first place?

one thing u people don't get is "scrapping jamb is worse than scrapping post utme", if jamb is scrap it means a particular person can write in two schools, most students will want to write in many schools, thereby increasing the population of people applying to a particular school. I won't be surprise if a school like unilorin get upto 500,000+ aspirant will apply to write their post utme. This will totally increase the amount of people that will screen out & admission processes will be disorganize as people will get multiple admission why some won't get any especially those who can only afford one post utme. In my opinion, it is better like this, just that Jamb were disorganized this year & those who face a lot of casualties in their exam won't be given any chance to prove themselves

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Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by Eljefe(m): 8:33pm On Jun 03, 2016
NigerianScholar:
I am strongly in support of this...i know most of you arent. But to make this post simple to understand i'll number all my points
1. The scrapping of the post utme favours those that scored high marks in jamb and dosent favoured those that had technical problems
2. This would strongly reduce the 'egunje' in many universities. Meaning buying admission. As the scores that will be used to produce your cut off will come from your utme
3. It will save students a lot of stress for travelling all the way to a place just to write another exam and prevent extortion of money from parents by the university (******* university charge 6500 for their p utme)
4. There are many concerns about most people not gaining admission into their preferred institutions. Yes, this may be bad. But it would be a good thing in the long run. As it would let the enrollment into all institutions balanced. Everyone wants to go to unilag. Ui. Oau or whatsoever.....they should encourage people to try other universities
5. It doesnt make sense to write 2 exams for the same purpose. And if the university organises its exams. Like I said before....there would be ojoro
6. Jamb is going to shuffle canditates across different tertiary institutions

Give your views below. I actually dont see any reason why this is a welcome idea


I strongly disagree with u and i'll give u strong arguments according to your numbered reasons...

1) If you scored high marks in jamb, then you should have no problem passing the post ume that is if you wrote the jamb on ur own, without any help...

2)there is no sense in cutting off the whole hand because the finger is corrupt. Last time I checked, Jamb isn't corruption free too...so shouldn't it be scraped too

3)travelling in search of an education is something that is done all over the world. If it's not safe to travel in Nigeria then it's the responsibility of the govt to make it better..also the govt or the NUC can also regulate the amount of money each university is allowed to charge for the post ume process..

4) Writing post ume also helps make the admission process balanced...because if a lot of pple pass the cut off that a department can take, what reason do u have for not giving them the admission??...Writing Post ume helps prevent that by making it difficult for just anyone to get in there, thereby ensuring that the best brains get the admission.

5) Ur 5th reason is invalid. There's nothing wrong in writing two exams to get admission..it helps to ensure that you have the best students in the universities...

6) So if I'm sent to an institution in a state where I know no one, does that not make room for the stress u talked about in ur 2nd point??...Students should be allowed to go where they please...its up to the universities to regulate that by having a limit on the amount of students that they can admit...

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Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by treachiz(m): 8:37pm On Jun 03, 2016
Hmmm, dis systerm is ok bt I dnt tink dis is d ryt tym 4 it 2 b implimented... Thank God I no dey ryt jamb or postume again ooo!!! Hmmmmmm
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by sammyclassics(m): 8:39pm On Jun 03, 2016
They should have done this before jamb exam... Anyway I will say let's see how the shuffling will be b4 commenting wrongly
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by treachiz(m): 8:43pm On Jun 03, 2016
Eljefe:


I strongly disagree with u and i'll give u strong arguments according to your numbered reasons...

1) If you scored high marks in jamb, then you should have no problem passing the post ume that is if you wrote the jamb on ur own, without any help...

2)there is no sense in cutting off the whole hand because the finger is corrupt. Last time I checked, Jamb isn't corruption free too...so shouldn't it be scraped too

3)travelling in search of an education is something that is done all over the world. If it's not safe to travel in Nigeria then it's the responsibility of the govt to make it better..also the govt or the NUC can also regulate the amount of money each university is allowed to charge for the post ume process..

4) Writing post ume also helps make the admission process balanced...because if a lot of pple pass the cut off that a department can take, what reason do u have for not giving them the admission??...Writing Post ume helps prevent that by making it difficult for just anyone to get in there, thereby ensuring that the best brains get the admission.

5) Ur 5th reason is invalid. There's nothing wrong in writing two exams to get admission..it helps to ensure that you have the best students in the universities...

6) So if I'm sent to an institution in a state where I know no one, does that not make room for the stress u talked about in ur 2nd point??...Students should be allowed to go where they please...its up to the universities to regulate that by having a limit on the amount of students that they can admit...
I m solemly behind u in dis statement joor!! Scrapping postume due 2 fraud or corruption is jst hypocritic.... Jamb 2 me hs a higher level of corruption dan d postume exam
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by NigerianScholar: 8:57pm On Jun 03, 2016
Thank you for providing me with valid points. Instead of pouring down insults on me.
Eljefe:


I strongly disagree with u and i'll give u strong arguments according to your numbered reasons...

1) If you scored high marks in jamb, then you should have no problem passing the post ume that is if you wrote the jamb on ur own, without any help... - Another reason why it is pointless

2)there is no sense in cutting off the whole hand because the finger is corrupt. Last time I checked, Jamb isn't corruption free too...so shouldn't it be scraped too
The corruption would spread and spiral out of control
3)travelling in search of an education is something that is done all over the world. If it's not safe to travel in Nigeria then it's the responsibility of the govt to make it better..also the govt or the NUC can also regulate the amount of money each university is allowed to charge for the post ume process..
I am talking about travelling twice for two separate examinations that are basically the same thing. Uni's wont allow the fg to control their prices
4) Writing post ume also helps make the admission process balanced...because if a lot of pple pass the cut off that a department can take, what reason do u have for not giving them the admission??...Writing Post ume helps prevent that by making it difficult for just anyone to get in there, thereby ensuring that the best brains get the admission. you can derive a cut off from a jamb score. No need for another exam that on a normal day. A candidate would get the same thing.

5) Ur 5th reason is invalid. There's nothing wrong in writing two exams to get admission..it helps to ensure that you have the best students in the universities...
at the expense of the students. Hope you know each student pays about 5k for the p utme. It I not easy for sm pple. Afta paying over 10k for utme. They will pay another one for p utme
6) So if I'm sent to an institution in a state where I know no one, does that not make room for the stress u talked about in ur 2nd point??...Students should be allowed to go where they please...its up to the universities to regulate that by having a limit on the amount of students that they can admit...by changing d students institutions. I meant that excess students should be sent to universities with vacant spots. It makes sense. Its like a compensation
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by Yemhey(m): 9:19pm On Jun 03, 2016
I reason along with those in the motion of scrapping it for one reason; most of the university in Nigeria doesn't centered there post utme exams base on your course of study(area of specialisation), one might wants to offer economics or any other social science courses and he/she be encountering questions from physics, chemistry and biology.
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by charlsecy(m): 9:20pm On Jun 03, 2016
NigerianScholar:
I am strongly in support of this..

Provided the JAMB-administered computer-based test is largely free of flaws, I like the new system.

I mean when people use computers to write the exams, the level of exam malpractice will be reduced to the barest minimium, so those who have high scores should be favoured with an admission.

So JAMB has a lot of work to do to ensure that technical and logistic problems don't arise in their next exams.

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dapsondou:
JAMB should be scrapped. Scrapping post UTME is not the solution. JAMB is not a trusted body. If each school can organise their own exams on their own and a candidate can apply for as many schools as he/she wants it would be better. He/she will gain admission to one of them.
If the people are corrupt, UTME or Post-UTME will also be corrupt.
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by frankkingston(m): 9:32pm On Jun 03, 2016
NigerianScholar:

Even if the results were bad. It doesnt matter. This would be better in the long run. Because universities and candidates would forward their complaints to jamb and theyll keep on improving and getting better


Post utme will most likely be biased. Would favour d rich and people that have connections




This move would reduce the number of applicants for ui and unilag. Because they will know that theyll get redistributed I they score an average mark

I know it will help in the long run, bt for dz yr it can't work... some uni av written Der post ume...

am 80% sure schs won't agree to it, same as ASUU nd Co...
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by dammieight(m): 10:07pm On Jun 03, 2016
This actually means pre degree programme is useless grin grin.. I sabi say oau no go follow this development.. Fingers crossed anyways
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by NigerianScholar: 10:08pm On Jun 03, 2016
frankkingston:


I know it will help in the long run, bt for dz yr it can't work... some uni av written Der post ume...

am 80% sure schs won't agree to it, same as ASUU nd Co...
.
You are very right. Except for the part you said. It cant work. The earlier they take this step.....the better
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by NigerianScholar: 10:10pm On Jun 03, 2016
charlsecy:



Provided the JAMB-administered computer-based test is largely free of flaws, I like the new system.

I mean when people use computers to write the exams, the level of exam malpractice will be reduced to the barest minimium, so those who have high scores should be favoured with an admission.

So JAMB has a lot of work to do to ensure that technical and logistic problems don't arise in their next exams.

*********

If the people are corrupt, UTME or Post-UTME will also be corrupt.
Thank you for being unbiased. Jamb as a lot of work to do
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by lekelistik: 10:12pm On Jun 03, 2016
If jamb now offers admission directly what happens to those who used awaiting result?
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by Eljefe(m): 10:28pm On Jun 03, 2016
NigerianScholar:
Thank you for providing me with valid points. Instead of pouring down insults on me.

If you ask me, i think post ume era has been a success compared to the era of just jamb in the sense people have been able to get admission to school. Instead of cancelling the process that has been largely successful because of excuses like stress of travelling, or money for post ume forms or corruption in the universities, why not find ways of making the system more transparent??

On the issue of money for post ume, it may sound harsh, but education is not cheap. If you desire to have education, then you should be ready to pay for the quality of education you want. But in order for the Universities not to extort the prospective students, the NUC can regulate the amount for the post ume forms. They are the Universities governing body so they can do it. Also why cant Jamb reduce the amount it charges for the forms

On the issue of corruption, there is no denying that some universities are corrupt. Jamb itself is also corrupt, so why are you not advocating on the scrapping of Jamb for that reason Isnt it better to find ways of ending the corruption?? Cancelling post ume wouldn't stop the corruption in the system, because before post ume, there was corruption in the system. People still got admission through fraudulent processes.

On the issue of travelling, its not an issue because its a common practice, done everywhere in the world. That it is not safe doesn't call for post ume to end. If post ume is scrapped and jamb sends you to University of Borno, because its trying to fill up the spaces, will you go there hapilly??, and if you do, wont that also be travelling


If i may ask, has the govt given its reasons for scrapping the post ume??...If it has, then i am 100% sure that it wasn't scrapped because of travelling or the cost of post ume forms. It was likely done to favor some people because removal of post ume , reducing the jamb cut off to 180 and making it valid for three years only weakens our educational system
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by Eljefe(m): 10:31pm On Jun 03, 2016
NigerianScholar:

Thank you for being unbiased. Jamb as a lot of work to do


is it the computers that would give the admissions too....and last i checked, i'm pretty sure it was humans that made computers, not the other way round...
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by Eljefe(m): 10:33pm On Jun 03, 2016
Yemhey:
I reason along with those in the motion of scrapping it for one reason; most of the university in Nigeria doesn't centered there post utme exams base on your course of study(area of specialisation), one might wants to offer economics or any other social science courses and he/she be encountering questions from physics, chemistry and biology.

lies....
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by Eljefe(m): 10:34pm On Jun 03, 2016
NigerianScholar:

If you dont get in d list of people to b screened. You would be taken to another uni

and if its a uni i dont like, or one that is too far
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by Eljefe(m): 10:38pm On Jun 03, 2016
NigerianScholar:
. They had a problem. And it would be adressed

and the post ume problems cannot be addressed??..it has to be scrapped instead
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by olanshile2016(m): 10:53pm On Jun 03, 2016
it is jamb that was supposed to be scrapped
Re: Understanding The Scrapping Of Post Utme by IamLukas(m): 10:58pm On Jun 03, 2016
Then why all the attacks?
I cant remember quoting U.
Congrats on a new word U just learnttongue
FuckTheM0ds:
hatred you say? Na your type them dey hate? Flibertigibbet

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