Immorttal:
Grizzlybear. Your question is a very deep one and one among many that is constantly intercepting on people's path to liberation.
Questions like: why do prayer works? Why do people perform some supernatural feats? Why do i experience inner bliss if God doesn't exist?

Now to shed some first time light to your question,my spiritual itinerary is a very rare one. first,my journey started as an agnostic to atheist,agnostic back again to pantheist. My transition was very quick and phenomenal,i was able to learn in a short time what could have taken the average man 10 years to conclude. Acknowledging that Spiritual powers exists and it comes at a prize was one of them. It is sheer ignorance for one to brush aside certain distinguishable concepts simply because it has not been scientifically established beyond doubt.The truth is,everything is energy even your thoughts and it can be transformed,anyone who disregard this notion is yet to experience life on a heterogenous frequency we are spirits,and we have invisible spirit guides operating on the astral plane. When i said everything is energy,its because science have also proven it,do you know you have a sort of connection and attunement with the clothes you wear or shoes you put on,etc,the invisible energy from that connection can be used to invoke one's spirit into submission because a portal has already been created and it can be manipulated into good or evil intentions using volition,affirmations,enchantment,visuals and some other stuff.The intensity of these effects depends on your spirit guards and the belief system one have carried through all their life,if you belief black magic would have an effect on your life,the likely hood increases and its also applicable when you belief otherwise. So black magic exists in everyday life it can be practised by anyone and a spirit can be invoked by anyone,its pretty easy.Its quite confusing but i see no correlation between spirit and existence of God. God is not a spirit,God is a presence.God is all that is everything,God is the Universe.

Sarassin:

It is this singular statement that has brought me to comment here. It is a statement I have made over the years many times to those who would question the supernatural.

It is common knowledge that the ancient Greeks sliced matter into thinner and thinner sections until Democritus put a stop to it by declaring that there was a limit beyond which particles became invisible or atomic. More than two thousand years later John Dalton showed that all matter in the universe was composed of basic building blocks, or atoms. Both men were right, but we now know that further division is possible and that atoms can be split into even more fundamental particles.

Man is composed of matter. Majorly more like clouds of electricity vibrating with wave patterns. Take a man and squeeze the empty spaces out of him, and you are left with a little pile of solid substance no larger than a flyspeck. We are hollow and our insubstantial bodies are strung together with electromagnetic and nuclear forces that simply create the illusion of matter. The only real difference between the living and the non-living is that the atoms of life are organised. They have become arranged into self-replicating patterns that defy cosmic chaos by constantly repairing and replacing themselves feeding on order.

Life is in extremely close touch with matter, and at the highest levels this means that it not only takes energy and information from its surroundings but returns them as well. The supernatural is an exchange of energy at cosmic level utilising the vast cosmic language and the triggers are vibratory primordial sounds and thought.

GrizzlyBear:
I am still on my journey towards atheism and mental illumination. I thank you all for all your contributions on my previous thread. But of all the posts on that thread, two have left me in deep thought, and I think these posts provides the answer I have been seeking for.

These are the posts





@Immorttal & Sarassin, and anyone else who supports their line of thought, please elucidate further.

sonOfLucifer:
Wrong title?

GrizzlyBear:
Please I would appreciate your contributions.

Cc
Neocortex, loj, Johnydon22, SidL, Cloudgoddess, platteon

johnydon22:
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God is everything and everything is God, we are part of God.. A Oneness of all and a difference in this Oneness..

GrizzlyBear:
I am still on my journey towards atheism and mental illumination

onetrack:
I am an atheist, but I have no argument against pantheism or panentheism. They are philosophically acceptable positions, in my opinion.

Truthman83:
I can safely say I am an ex christian now. It's not been easy but I am convinced inside of me. @ifenes How does the matrix work? @Johnnydon22,If God is everything,who is the christian God and what does Satan represent. @Immorttal,how does black magic work and what exactly is it? Thanks

Seun:
Resist the urge to replace your faith with other concepts that are equally imaginary.

Seun:
Resist the urge to replace your faith with other concepts that are equally imaginary.

Brigance:
if there's anything that is omnipresent, it might just be matter . . .

if there's anything that is omnipotent, it might just be energy . .

if there's anything that is omniscient, it might just be nature . . .

if there's any god, it might just be us . . .

Brigance:
if there's anything that is omnipresent, it might just be matter . . .

if there's anything that is omnipotent, it might just be energy . .

if there's anything that is omniscient, it might just be nature . . .

if there's any god, it might just be us . . .

ifenes:


The moment we know we are God,Energy,Oneness experiencing itself in unlimited forms ,everything we can imagine, we will begin to expand and break free from the Matrix that has put us in a box and want us to worship a god rather than seeing that we are the God @Truthman83. The Matrix as you asked is a mental prison wall that enable disconnection from one's true self. Usually built by having negative belief systems that belittles us,creates boundaries we cannot go past,negative religious principles that cannot be questioned etc

GrizzlyBear:


Thanks for your contributions, sir. I have few more questions.

How is it that christians are able to counter these "juju" by calling on their God? Why do some powers fall at the foot of certain religions when these religions draw power from their god? Christianity for instance?

Can this theory still be used to explain the existence of ghosts?

What about "demonic activity" and exorcism? How is exorcism effective?

Cc
Sarassin, immorttal, Loj, brigance, seun, sirwere, braithe, zoharariel, davien, johnydon22, neocortex, sidL, platteon, valentinemary.

GrizzlyBear:


Thanks for your contributions, sir. I have few more questions.

How is it that christians are able to counter these "juju" by calling on their God? Why do some powers fall at the foot of certain religions when these religions draw power from their god? Christianity for instance?

Can this theory still be used to explain the existence of ghosts?

What about "demonic activity" and exorcism? How is exorcism effective?

Cc
Sarassin, immorttal, Loj, brigance, seun, sirwere, braithe, zoharariel, davien, johnydon22, neocortex, sidL, platteon, valentinemary.

ValentineMary:


It's all psychology. Let us take for instance I have a sick brother and I tell him that calling the name of Galileo would heal him, and my brother firmly believes, and calls on Galileo, they is a high probability that he would be healed. Why? because physiological recovery is usually accompanied with psychological recoverer (many physician have proven this). Similar thing happens in christianity. The people believe so if by any chance they get healed or better, they attribute it to the name(s) they called. This us what we call confirmation bias.

Pdizzle:


Juju could be unexplainable science, there's a possibility, but what do you say about people that don't believe in juju and it still works against them. I believe your explanation is talking about the placebo effect.
Expantiate on exorcism, people that don't even have control of themselves can't possibly undergo placebo effect or confirmation bias. The Catholics and Muslims have different ways of exorcism and it's effective.