kaydee:


U're just a blind hater!!!! M.I's signature which yeye signature M.I get? I heard M.I wayback when he was coming up and i know what he sounded like back then before jacking Lil Wayne & Khanye,

It's obvious your point of view held punches and why look up to sauron(No 1 Mode hater) to corroborate your statement?As long as it's coming from both of U, na lie!!!!!!!!!!!!! And don't ever accuse anyone of jacking M.I's style again,it's impossicant

DBR:

U dont get called a hater cos u hate.
U r only called one cos hate is your heart.
wat arrant puke?!
@Eldee- your reply is always predictable, u cant help it, can u?.
Saurone, c'mon u ma man but times u trouble ma judgement of u being unbaise.
Obviously M.i switched style, e'rone knows he sounds like Weezy, He himself agrees
but says he's confident of makin good music irrespective of who he sounds like,
and i dont have any problem wit that, i luvv the dude to death.

Drake sounds like Ye, Young chris sounds Jay, and so on, nobody is dyin'
Badman, M9 sounds like M.i, puhhhhleaseeeee!
If AT ALL u wanna go that route it's beta u say he sounds like Weezy, cos we all
know that's who M.i took his swag from(And i dont have a prob wit that).
But the prob is dat i dont see Weez in the Badman track.

Now for reference, there couple of songs that M9 sounds kinda "hoarse"
Kinda like the way he sounded on Badman.
Quick top of mind is "the game needs me".
And i'm a Big fan of both M9 and M.i, so dont get it twisted.
oNe

~Sauron~:

Letz wait for the defense of the modestans. . . . .
Who knows. . . . .Mode-9 might have used this style before M.I. hit the limelight.

eldee:

Your defense is laughable . . .
Because it's coming from Moi, it's a lie?? Come on!!!

I know you're trying to bring up the fact that Lil Wayne has a major inflence on M.I's delivery . . . but all I see is a shameless attempt at covering the obvious truth.
I don't care what M.I used to sound like . . . I don't care to know what  Uni he went to.

But one thing I'm sure is, this rapper on the track I got from Lalaboi's Businessfiles is an M.I impersonator.
Experimenting, testing . . . whatever the Bleep he's doing . . . I just liket see people tell the truth when they see it or not bother to reply at all.
I'm sure even Modenine won't deny it . . . saying Modenine didn't have M.I in his mind while doing this song 'is like saying Naeto C never heard of T.I'

eldee:

Dude . . . for mess's sake, how many times do i have to tell you guys??
I can't be a Modenine hater . . . I've not got time to hate on anyone.

Let's not drag this . . . I know the problem here, in your opinion, Modenine is too big to bite M.I swag.
But you'll rather admit that the style comes from Lil Wayne??
At least we're halfway to the truth here. . .

But you make it look like I'm meant to be happy with your compromise . I do not care!!!
We both know the truth, we both know this is more like Area /Choc Boys than Unstoppable/Lollipop.
I really expected you to do a Javalove on this issue. . . this give me hope, I'll hold on t the fact that not all Modenine fans are fickle.

Re: Who's Got Lyrics: Ruggedman Or Modenine?
« #147 on: October 03, 2007, 12:45 AM »

[b]some people are jobless man, i mean listen to bouzymill and kaydee talk. you guys are not making sense. eldee is the shit man.(at least so he thinks) so please people leave the madman alone. abi na by force? how would you ever make sense to a person who aint got it? and eldee? you want something nigerian, i'll give it to you, oo gbon. and thats basic.

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Re: Who's Got Lyrics: Ruggedman Or Modenine?
« #176 on: October 06, 2007, 09:22 AM »

Who's got the lyrics? Mode, Who's got the fans?Rugged
U only need to check out his my space page to understand this; he's the most featured rapper in Nigeria, i.e you don't have to buy his album to listen to his songs, that who I call a sucessful artiste.
http://www.myspace.com/ruggedmannigerian

bouzymill:

Now, you want to aact like, Yeah!!! you've got the truth and erryone can juz suckup to your judgment. Nah, I remember that time on one of "the old modenine thread", were u not the one who said mode9's lyrics av got lots of Gangbanging stuff, etc, Ever since then, I see you as sumone who got the meaning of hiphop from the mainstream point of view. Am not dissing , it's just awkward to say that Mode9 sounded like M.I on badman, cos that's the definiiton of Blasphemy, Fine, Mode9 on that track was trying to do a radio friendly joint which M.I is very good at, but that M9 sounded like, That's not just it,

bouzymill:

and about swagga jackin? you've just done line jacking too!!!
'is like saying Naeto C never heard of T.I'
abi no be so?

And what the mess is Swagga Jacking?
You sound like an African Lost in the Labyrinth of two Cultures!!!

kaydee:

Till U realize that M.I got no swag he can call his own,U'll continue blindly like this.It's impossible for anyone to jack M.I Dude, Geddit?

bouzymill:

Eldee, This is you 2 years ago!!! How can you say a thing like this, another post is this:
Nas Jayz Pac, you two years [/b]ago
[b]Does he still hold this stance now? Mode9, 2shotz, eldee are still ON and Banging

Now!!! See where you lost it!!! 2 years ago you barely know the true meaning of hip hop!!!! Now you come here after 2 years to add another dust

MODE SOUNDED LIKE M.I ON BADMAN

eldee:

Dude . . . for mess's sake, how many times do i have to tell you guys??
I can't be a Modenine hater . . . I've not got time to hate on anyone.

Let's not drag this . . . I know the problem here, in your opinion, Modenine is too big to bite M.I swag.
But you'll rather admit that the style comes from Lil Wayne??
At least we're halfway to the truth here. . .

But you make it look like I'm meant to be happy with your compromise . I do not care!!!
We both know the truth, we both know this is more like Area /Choc Boys than Unstoppable/Lollipop.
I really expected you to do a Javalove on this issue. . . this give me hope, I'll hold on t the fact that not all Modenine fans are fickle.

~Sauron~:

I don't wanna get sucked into another Mode-9 debate or whatever.

By default, all Rappers write whatever they like in whatever format that pleases em and let the words make things into what ever line formation that we see fit, but regretfully, this isn't a productive means to produce consistently hot rhymes.
In order to harness creativity time after time, one needs to write their rhymes in a solid and defined structure of words, or a "style".

There are only about 28 styles in existence based on 7 fundamentally different structures.
Only 20 of them are considered usable and enjoyable to a listener’s ear/readers eyes which are based on 5 different structures
Mode-9 in his wisdom has been using a particular style in all the songs i have heard from him and his rhyme pattern/structure in the song in scrutiny is a total deviation from his usual style and by coincidence happens to be the same rap pattern M.I.'s been using.

I am not talking of the voice here. . . . .I am talking about the structure of his verse in that song.

Re: Who's Got Lyrics: Ruggedman Or Modenine?
« #139 on: October 01, 2007, 07:45 PM »

@Tjscale
At least, i respect u for the fact that u appreciate good rap tunes. The simple explanation is that after rugged redefined the rap industry, naija rap started getting too hardcore and too fake. The fact is that mode is too fake for nigerians. The only way u feel his lyrics is if u actually grew up in the streets of new york, with drug dealers and drive-by gang killing. he just can't describe the agberos' and the bus drivers.(Don't mention Stylee. that was the worst piece of shit he ever spat out). And listen to rugged's opinion

eldee:

I never ever said Modenine did rhymes on drive-bys . . . I said he could relate to the average Nigerian
I made a simple point . . . the average Nigerian at that time didn't feel Modenine
Ruggedman made a career off that simple fact.

What Nigerians needed then was a soft landing . . . and there it was
Modenine came four years too early . . . c'est fini, he knows that, i know that, I'm hoping you'll recognise tht fact too.
Eedris - Ruggedman - Terry tha Rapman - Modenine/M.I
It was a transition and it finally came . . .so what for Bleep's sake is wrong with that??

eldee:

I still listen to[b] Nas and Jay-Z today[/b], infact I'm staying up on the 11th for the I-tunes release of BP3, so I really don't get your point
Let me just add the fact all you need to identify this obvious copy-paste is a pair of working ears.
You've not made one valid point here . . . apart from the fact that Eldee loves Nas . . . Big Deal!!!

Caliente:

[size=13pt]I just wanted people to reason like humans do but some go off like diarrhea and shit all over the post calling me names. Listen to that song carefully, if you have an unbiased assessment you'll agree with me. MI usually has this kinda forceful loud whisper way of rapping and that was how Mode 9 did his thing on Badman. I don't give a Bleep about the generic Lil Wayne line. But if you think it's something that counts then Mode 9 sounded like generic Lil Wayne on that track. I like Mode, Rugged, MI, etc. Yeah I said it, atomize yourself for all I care.[/size]

slimshay:

go back to your first post,,,,java's god? and u want people to reason like humans?

abdurrazaq:

It's true he sound different on that track no doubt and also on Loke which he featured YQ and OD but, that shows that he is not a One-styled MC which should be a credit to him and not another reason to criticize him.

bouzymill:

Lez put it this way. You never said Mode did rhyme on drive bys but you said those that can feel him are gangbangers, drug dealers, drive-by gang killing and so on. Are you not contradicting yourself? How can he possibly do a track they'll feel if the theme of his music don't relate to theirs?

Not all Nigerians need a softlanding. You can't generalize like that cos am a Nigerian and i don't choose music by its softness. I choose by the content and not the form.

Anoher pointer to the fact that you don't really know anything about the hiphop history in Nigeria is your timeline or your "transition" as you called it, cos there are gaps to be filled, TRYBESMEN had influence on Nigerian Hip Hop, SWATROOT had influence, They've been on the game before Eedris. Most of em are still here that was why i added 2shotz in my earlier post.
What i'm saying is the "realest" hiphop you've heard in your life probably comes from JayZ, Nas, Tupac, BIG, you aint qualified to speak about Real Hip Hop. You sound like a Pop-Rap Fan. I'm sure you love P Diddy, Loon and a little of Fabulous.

DBR:

Yea rite! U aint no hater but u call people oppose to your views Modestan, that's so pathetic, really!
U aint no hater but u quick to jump on M9 at d foggiest gist that sounds negative bout the dude.
Are u ok?
Self delusion is seekin for next of kin and u gettin better qualified for it.
Comprehension of views that dont support urs has always been your Achilles heel and its sad.
The hottest of rappers hav jacked, and i mentioned it, i dont hav prob wit that, especially if it's style.
I was d same dude defendin M.i when he was been crucified for soundin too weezy&Yeezy.
For cryin outloud, Jay bites lyrics which is more critical than soundin like smone. Hell didntt freeze.
Ma point is if M.i didnt originate a style how can sm1 bite him.
How wld anyone bite a biter?(And it's u even callin it BITING)
Ok, M9 sounded HOARSE on the track, so wat
Lemme sound like u-since when did M.i patent or own horseness in rap game?
So much so that anyone who sounds hoarse is now bitin M.i
It's appalin how u Eldee let pple off greater hiphop crime as BITING lyrics, but will
want to commit suicide cos M9 sounded this way on this track. ,
and u aint a hater, right? u soooo F-ing ridiculous!
oNe

bouzymill:

~Sauron~:

@ Eldee,

Ignore this issue abeg.
When is BP3 hitting itunes store. . . . . . .I wanna bang me head to some Jigga's beats, abeg.

eldee:

With what I've heard on Youtube BP3 isn't that good . . .
The 2/3 songs I heard were prolly just album fillers though.

~Sauron~:

I ain't surprised. . . . . .Jigga should retire.
TBH, i am buying this album because of boredom not because i expect a lot.
I mean. . . . .how can Rihanna dominate Jigga and Kanye in a song?
It's pathetic.

chika98:

Sauron: What do you think about these two tracks "Off that" and "Hate"?

~Sauron~:

Average!!!

chika98:

Those are the two tracks I really like then. Seeing as you are a Jigga lover . . Just thought to ask
I see you are not happy with the whole album yes?