Ontarget:
Well, I am not really bashing ladies but only stating the situation of things as it appears. Before a lady gets angry with a guy for not offering something I think the lady should first ask herself if she offers the same thing.

Sometimes we hear Nigerian ladies say Nigerian men are not romantic. Are they romantic themselves?

Sometimes they say they hate stingy men. But how many times have they bought a handkerchief for a guy before you talk of taking him out for shopping?

They want to be treated like queens when they treat their men like servants or he becomes unromantic.

They want men to burn airtime to call them but they only flash even after the guy has sent her airtime.

They want men to fucck them good but dont bother whether they are good in bed themselves

Ontarget:
Well, I am not really bashing ladies but only stating the situation of things as it appears. Before a lady gets angry with a guy for not offering something I think the lady should first ask herself if she offers the same thing.

Sometimes we hear Nigerian ladies say Nigerian men are not romantic. Are they romantic themselves?

Sometimes they say they hate stingy men. But how many times have they bought a handkerchief for a guy before you talk of taking him out for shopping?

They want to be treated like queens when they treat their men like servants or he becomes unromantic.

They want men to burn airtime to call them but they only flash even after the guy has sent her airtime.

They want men to fucck them good but dont bother whether they are good in bed themselves

Love Machine:
I pray they listen and follow it up.

foolinlove:


You hate feminists but you want to benefit from the principles feminism offers. Congratulations.

Ontarget:

I hate feminists because they don't really know where they stand practically. They preach feminism but their actions is quite the opposite. They actually want to reap from both ends in a way that perfectly benefits them. They choose juicy aspects where they need equal rights and ignore the tough ones.

foolinlove:


Examples please. I am a feminist. I don't subscribe to stereotypical gender roles.

I pay my way and expect a man does the same.

So what's wrong - apart from the fact that I'm a woman and you dont like me?

Ontarget:

First of all let me ask a question to know your own perception: What exactly do you as a feminist want?

foolinlove:


You hate feminists but you want to benefit from the principles feminism offers. Congratulations.

foolinlove:


Equality of opportunity and freedom from gender stereotypes.

Suspectzero:


Where did he mention feminists in that post?
Or is it guilty conscience that is doing you?
We all know feminists are the most hypocritical of them all.

foolinlove:


Equality of opportunity and freedom from gender stereotypes.

Suspectzero:


Women can't handle true equality. They don't have both the strength of character and physicality to do so. Also deep down most women do not want to be "equal" to their partners. They want a man that is better than them and that they can be submissive to. You can yap on all about being treated as an equal and respected all you want but it's same women like you that end up playing the guys who do that and fall head over heels for the ones who don't take you that seriously. Most feminist ideals these days are just mental masturbation that doesn't translate to real life practical success for relations between the sexes.

foolinlove:


How so?

He cites feminist principles, wamts women to show feminist traits, but generalises all women as the same.

It's ridiculously illogical.

Suspectzero:


Not necessarily. He was only pointing out hypocrisy of these feministic principles. And you as a true feminist did nothing to address it except claim he hated feminists i stead of engaging directly with the specific issues he brought up. Is being a huge hypocrite part of being a feminist? We already know the answer to that.

Ontarget:

Ok. Emphasis on "equality of opportunity".
So if I may I ask, is there something that women are denied? I can't really think of anything they are being denied. Whatever it is I would appreciate you remind me.

foolinlove:


How so?

He cites feminist principles, wamts women to show feminist traits, but generalises all women as the same.

It's ridiculously illogical.

foolinlove:


Smh.

Then don't complain about women being entirely dependent on you, if you think no woman can handle being independent.

Feminism allows each gender to be free. Stupid that feminism first has to prove it's good for men to be taken seriously.

foolinlove:


Yes. The ability to live freely without judgement based on gender stereotypes.

Woman are constantly being told what to do and how to behave in order to earn respect that is freely given to men regardless of their behaviour.

Suspectzero:


Feminism has had more than enough chance to prove it's good for men but that is not the case. It only seeks to take advantage of men. I don't see feminists fighting for equality in marriage and divorce laws. I don't see feminists fighting to join the army on the front lines. I don't see feminists building roads, bridges and working garbage disposals. You only want to be equal when it's perfectly convenient and rewarding. I'm sure if we examined your own life sef you'd still exemplify classic female stereotypes. But you think you are some modern enlightened woman because you are running up and down shouting "I am a feminist".

Suspectzero:


And you think men don't have stereotypes and ideals to live up to? See how feminists always like to play victim. They are forever victims. So men don't have masculine ideals to live up to like being the bread winner, being protective of their weaker female counterparts? Manning up? Doing the heavy lifting when needed? Just ask male nurses about that one.

foolinlove:


Yes. The ability to live freely without judgement based on gender stereotypes.

Woman are constantly being told what to do and how to behave in order to earn respect that is freely given to men regardless of their behaviour.

Ontarget:

Ok. I am glad you didn't mention that they are denied any specific opportunity.
Based on what you wrote your worry is the stereotyping, but do you think women are the only ones facing this issue of gender sterotyping? Don't you think men face it too? Are men not being told what to do and how to behave to earn respect? What is the issue exactly?

foolinlove:


If you don't see it you need to look further. Look to the west.

Feminism does not seek power *over* men. It seeks to dismantle gender stereotypes. If you seek female superiority over men, you are not a feminist.

Feminists work worldwide for rights to do exactly what you mentioned. Because some women find it rewarding fighting on the front lines, building bridges, working in garbage disposal.

They do these jobs and I support them to do so if they want. Just like men.

Suspectzero:


No they don't, I lived in the West for close to a decade. The men there hate what modern feminism is about. Modern feminism are crazy and hypocritical. You are repeating their sound bites that are just that, sound bites. Men aren't suffering under the weight of gender stereotypes. We don't need you women and your false ideology to come and save us. I'm sure even other women are laughing at you and your claims that women truly wanna be building bridges, fighting wars and doing garbage disposal.

foolinlove:


How so?

He cites feminist principles, wamts women to show feminist traits, but generalises all women as the same.

It's ridiculously illogical.

chigoizie7:



That has always been ur problem. U always think of things that are logical and illogical but refused to understand that we live in a practical world. A world where u do what u preach. If all those feminists whatever does not do exactly what they preach, then forget it, this world will not succumb to their psychopathic kind of reasoning.


For me? I want to be a man who will provide all for my woman, a woman I can respect for who she is. But if u start preaching that feminism nonsense and has not been putting it in practice physically and otherwise, that is where I will have problems with u?


1st, I respect u, weda u re a feminist or not, we both deserves equal respect from each other.

Apart from respect, every other thing a feminist wants is beneficial to men morethan women sef