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Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by truthman2012(m): 10:57pm On Jul 22, 2016
Muslims claim the quran is the direct revelations of allaah without any contributions by Gabriel and Muhammad. If it is true, their should be no reported speeches but direct speeches. But what we find in the quran are many reported speeches suggesting that either Gabriel or Muhammad spoke in the quran.

In the quranic quotes below, wherever you find the word 'Allah' should have been I or Me or My if they were direct speeches of Allah. Why should allah address himself as allah?

And when ye said: O Moses! We are weary of one kind of food; so call upon thy Lord for us that He bring forth for us of that which the earth groweth - of its herbs and its cucumbers and its corn and its lentils and its onions. He said: Would ye exchange that which is higher for that which is lower? Go down to settled country, thus ye shall get that which ye demand. And humiliation and wretchedness were stamped upon them and they were visited with wrath from Allah. That was because they disbelieved in Allah's revelations and slew the prophets wrongfully. That was for their disobedience and transgression.
(Qur'an 2:61).

And they say: Our hearts are hardened. Nay, but Allah hath cursed them for their unbelief. Little is that which they believe. And when there cometh unto them a scripture from Allah, confirming that in their possession - though before that they were asking for a signal triumph over those who disbelieved - and when there cometh unto them that which they know (to be the truth) they disbelieve therein. The curse of Allah is on disbelievers. Evil is that for which they sell their souls: that they should disbelieve in that which Allah hath revealed, grudging that Allah should reveal of His bounty unto whom He will of His slaves. They have incurred anger upon anger. For disbelievers is a shameful doom."
Qur'an 2:88

Never will the Jews or the Christians be satisfied with thee unless thou follow their form of religion. Say: "The Guidance of Allah,-that is the (only) Guidance." Wert thou to follow their desires after the knowledge which hath reached thee, then wouldst thou find neither Protector nor helper against Allah.
Qur'an 2:120

Or say ye that Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes were Jews or Christians? Say: Do ye know best, or doth Allah? And who is more unjust than he who hideth a testimony which he hath received from Allah? Allah is not unaware of what ye do."
Qur'an 2:140

Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors.
Qur'an 3:110

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Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by truthman2012(m): 7:09am On Jul 23, 2016
No muslims seem to know the answer.

This should be an eye-opener to the muslims that the quran is the words of a demon who pretended as Gabriel and Muhammad himself, most times used allaah's name to express his mind. We find I, We (direct statements), and also find His, Allah (reported statements) in the quran. Why? Gabriel/Muhammad sometimes forgot they were not supposed to speak for allaah.

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Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by annunaki2(m): 7:38am On Jul 23, 2016
truthman2012:
No muslims seem to know the answer.

This should be an eye-opener to the muslims that the quran is the words of a demon who pretended as Gabriel and Muhammad himself, most times used allaah's name to express his mind. We find I, We (direct statements), and also find His, Allah (reported statements) in the quran. Why?


Very good observation. smiley unfortunately the very people who this observation will benefit have been programmed not to use their brain as far as the quoran/islam is concerned.

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Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by true2god: 9:23am On Jul 23, 2016
I think it is haram to apply logic in Islam.

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Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by truthman2012(m): 10:05am On Jul 23, 2016
annunaki2:


Very good observation. smiley unfortunately the very people who this observation will benefit have been programmed not to use their brain as far as the quoran/islam is concerned.

I believe God will punish muslims for failing to use their brain. The brain is not given to man for nothing.

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Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by truthman2012(m): 10:06am On Jul 23, 2016
true2god:
I think it is haram to apply logic in Islam.

No wonder they are cheaply deceived.

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Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by truthman2012(m): 3:51pm On Jul 23, 2016
Where are the islamic apologists to defend the quran nau?

You are used to hiding under "ignoring" any time
you lack the idea of what to say. Is this one of the occasions?

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Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by jcross19: 4:38pm On Jul 23, 2016
truthman2012:
Where are the islamic apologists to defend the quran nau?

You are used to hiding under "ignoring" any time
you lack the idea of what to say. Is this one of the occasions?
you can't find them now because they left their brain in mosque yesterday.

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Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by Yinkame123(m): 5:03pm On Jul 23, 2016
I seems not to understand what the writer is driving at. It's indisputable that Quran is a revelation from Allah to Prophet Muhammad through angel Jubril. To use a simple logic since what the op uses is logic if I asked you to tell a friend that ' if you don't give me my money in three days I will make sure I get you arrested by the police'. The quran container 6666 verses and 124 chapters scientific research has proven that the words it contains is not that of a man but someone in the highest realm of the universe.

truthman2012:
Muslims claim the quran is the direct revelations of allaah without any contributions by Gabriel and Muhammad. If it is true, their should be no reported speeches but direct speeches. But what we find in the quran are many reported speeches suggesting that either Gabriel or Muhammad spoke in the quran.

In the quranic quotes below, wherever you find the word 'Allah' should have been I or Me or My if they were direct speeches of Allah. Why should allah address himself as allah?

And when ye said: O Moses! We are weary of one kind of food; so call upon thy Lord for us that He bring forth for us of that which the earth groweth - of its herbs and its cucumbers and its corn and its lentils and its onions. He said: Would ye exchange that which is higher for that which is lower? Go down to settled country, thus ye shall get that which ye demand. And humiliation and wretchedness were stamped upon them and they were visited with wrath from Allah. That was because they disbelieved in Allah's revelations and slew the prophets wrongfully. That was for their disobedience and transgression.
(Qur'an 2:61).

And they say: Our hearts are hardened. Nay, but Allah hath cursed them for their unbelief. Little is that which they believe. And when there cometh unto them a scripture from Allah, confirming that in their possession - though before that they were asking for a signal triumph over those who disbelieved - and when there cometh unto them that which they know (to be the truth) they disbelieve therein. The curse of Allah is on disbelievers. Evil is that for which they sell their souls: that they should disbelieve in that which Allah hath revealed, grudging that Allah should reveal of His bounty unto whom He will of His slaves. They have incurred anger upon anger. For disbelievers is a shameful doom."
Qur'an 2:88

Never will the Jews or the Christians be satisfied with thee unless thou follow their form of religion. Say: "The Guidance of Allah,-that is the (only) Guidance." Wert thou to follow their desires after the knowledge which hath reached thee, then wouldst thou find neither Protector nor helper against Allah.
Qur'an 2:120

Or say ye that Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes were Jews or Christians? Say: Do ye know best, or doth Allah? And who is more unjust than he who hideth a testimony which he hath received from Allah? Allah is not unaware of what ye do."
Qur'an 2:140

Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors.
Qur'an 3:110
Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by annunaki2(m): 5:59pm On Jul 23, 2016
Yinkame123:
I seems not to understand what the writer is driving at. It's indisputable that Quran is a revelation from Allah to Prophet Muhammad through angel Jubril. To use a simple logic since what the op uses is logic if I asked you to tell a friend that ' if you don't give me my money in three days I will make sure I get you arrested by the police'. The quran container 6666 verses and 124 chapters scientific research has proven that the words it contains is not that of a man but someone in the highest realm of the universe.


On the contrary there is no single shred of evidence that the quoran has any divine origin, it's at best a product of demonic possession and hallucinations of mohammed. Also stop this lie that you muslims love to peddle, science has never and can never authenticated the quoran as the quoran is full of too many lies, errors, contradictions, inconsistencies and outright rubbish.

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Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by truthman2012(m): 10:13pm On Jul 23, 2016
Yinkame123:
I seems not to understand what the writer is driving at. It's indisputable that Quran is a revelation from Allah to Prophet Muhammad through angel Jubril. To use a simple logic since what the op uses is logic if I asked you to tell a friend that ' if you don't give me my money in three days I will make sure I get you arrested by the police'. The quran container 6666 verses and 124 chapters scientific research has proven that the words it contains is not that of a man but someone in the highest realm of the universe.


Yes, you are correct. The speaker in the quran is someone, not the God of Heaven. You don't refer to God as someone.
Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by Demmzy15(m): 2:08am On Jul 24, 2016
annunaki2:


On the contrary there is no single shred of evidence that the quoran has any divine origin,

Of course there are many, but can you prove the bible to be divine?

it's at best a product of demonic possession and hallucinations of mohammed.

Hallucinations that mentioned the purpose of mountains, what separates rivers and seas, how a baby develops, etc. I think your brain has capsized!

Also stop this lie that you muslims love to peddle, science has never and can never authenticated the quoran as the quoran is full of too many lies, errors, contradictions, inconsistencies and outright rubbish.

Coming from a man who's bible claims the world is supported on a 4 pillar and the shape is "circle"! Guy you too dull

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Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by truthman2012(m): 7:59am On Jul 24, 2016
Demmzy15:


Of course there are many, but can you prove the bible to be divine?



Hallucinations that mentioned the purpose of mountains, what separates rivers and seas, how a baby develops, etc. I think your brain has capsized!



Coming from a man who's bible claims the world is supported on a 4 pillar and the shape is "circle"! Guy you too dull

You are known for not refuting any thread, you only wait for an occasion to comment on someone's comment. I wonder how much of islam you know. For example, what have you said about allaah being reported in the quran. If it is he directly speaking as islamists want us to believe, why would Gabriel/Muhammad be reporting him?

I know you will run away as usual.

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Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by annunaki2(m): 10:56am On Jul 24, 2016
Demmzy15:






Hallucinations that mentioned the purpose of mountains, what separates rivers and seas, how a baby develops, etc. I think your brain has capsized! l

The purpose mohamed alluded to the points you raised above provides further evidence that he must have been hallucinating when he uttered such rubbish. Imagine saying that mountains are pegs to hold down the earth Arrant nonsense. angry

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Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by Presbulg(m): 1:38pm On Jul 24, 2016
annunaki2:


The purpose mohamed alluded to the points you raised above provides further evidence that he must have been hallucinating when he uttered such rubbish. Imagine saying that mountains are pegs to hold down the earth Arrant nonsense. angry


First, The words of the Qu'ran are not words of anybody except that of Almighty God, so Mohammmed(SAW) didn't author the Qu'ran

So science has proved what the holy Qu'ran says about mountains.

Here, lemme school you cuz of another time before typing rubbish about what what you don't have any knowledge about

GEOLOGY

MOUNTAINS ARE LIKE PEGS (STAKES)[\b]

In geology, the phenomenon of 'folding', is a
recently discovered fact. Folding is responsible
for the formation of mountain ranges. The
earth's crust, on which we live, is like a solid
shell, while the deeper layers are hot and fluid,
and thus inhospitable to any form of life. It is
also known that the stability of the mountains is
linked to the phenomenon of folding, for it was
the folds that were to provide foundations for
the reliefs that constitute the mountains.

[b]Geologists tell us that the radius of the Earth is about 3,750 miles and the crust on which we live is very thin, ranging between 1 to 30 miles. Since, the crust is thin, it has a high possibility of shaking. Mountains act
like stakes or tent pegs that hold the earth's crust and give it stability. The [b]QUR'AN
contains exactly such a description in the following verse:[/b]

"Have WE not made The earth as a wide
Expanse, And the mountains as pegs?"
[AL- QUR'AN 78:6-7]


The word 'awtad' from the Qu'ran means stakes or pegs (like those used to anchor a tent); they are the deep foundations of geological folds. A book named 'Earth' is considered as a basic reference textbook on geology in many universities around the world. One of the authors of this book is Frank Press, who was the President of the Academy of Sciences in the USA for 12 years and was the Scientific Advisor to former US President Jimmy Carter. In this book he illustrates the mountain in a wedge-shape and the mountain itself as a small part of the whole, whose root is deeply entrenched in the ground. {Earth, Press and Siever, p.435. Also see Earth Science, Tarbuck and Lutgens, p. 157}

According to Dr. Press, the mountains play an important role in stabilizing the crust of the earth. The QUR'AN clearly mentions the function of the mountains in preventing the earth from shaking:

"And WE have set on the earth Mountains
standing firm, Lest it should shake with
them."
[AL- QUR'AN 21:31]


The Qur'anic descriptions are in perfect
agreement with modern geological data.

MOUNTAINS FIRMLY FIXED

The surface of the earth is broken into many
rigid plates that are about 100 km in thickness.
These plates float on a partially molten region
called aesthenosphere.

Mountain formations occur at the boundary of
the plates. The earth's crust is 5 km below
oceans, about 35 km thick below flat continental
surfaces and almost 80 km thick below great
mountain ranges. These are the strong
foundations on which mountains stand. The
QUR'AN also speaks about the strong mountain foundations in the following verse:

"And the mountains Hath HE firmly fixed."
[AL- QUR'AN 79:32]

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Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by truthman2012(m): 3:07pm On Jul 24, 2016
Presbulg:



First, The words of the Qu'ran are not words of anybody except that of Almighty God, so Mohammmed(SAW) didn't author the Qu'ran

So science has proved what the holy Qu'ran says about mountains.

Here, lemme school you cuz of another time before typing rubbish about what what you don't have any knowledge about

GEOLOGY

MOUNTAINS ARE LIKE PEGS (STAKES)[\b]

In geology, the phenomenon of 'folding', is a
recently discovered fact. Folding is responsible
for the formation of mountain ranges. The
earth's crust, on which we live, is like a solid
shell, while the deeper layers are hot and fluid,
and thus inhospitable to any form of life. It is
also known that the stability of the mountains is
linked to the phenomenon of folding, for it was
the folds that were to provide foundations for
the reliefs that constitute the mountains.

[b]Geologists tell us that the radius of the Earth is about 3,750 miles and the crust on which we live is very thin, ranging between 1 to 30 miles. Since, the crust is thin, it has a high possibility of shaking. Mountains act
like stakes or tent pegs that hold the earth's crust and give it stability. The [b]QUR'AN
contains exactly such a description in the following verse:[/b]

"Have WE not made The earth as a wide
Expanse, And the mountains as pegs?"
[AL- QUR'AN 78:6-7]


The word 'awtad' from the Qu'ran means stakes or pegs (like those used to anchor a tent); they are the deep foundations of geological folds. A book named 'Earth' is considered as a basic reference textbook on geology in many universities around the world. One of the authors of this book is Frank Press, who was the President of the Academy of Sciences in the USA for 12 years and was the Scientific Advisor to former US President Jimmy Carter. In this book he illustrates the mountain in a wedge-shape and the mountain itself as a small part of the whole, whose root is deeply entrenched in the ground. {Earth, Press and Siever, p.435. Also see Earth Science, Tarbuck and Lutgens, p. 157}

According to Dr. Press, the mountains play an important role in stabilizing the crust of the earth. The QUR'AN clearly mentions the function of the mountains in preventing the earth from shaking:

"And WE have set on the earth Mountains
standing firm, Lest it should shake with
them."
[AL- QUR'AN 21:31]


The Qur'anic descriptions are in perfect
agreement with modern geological data.

MOUNTAINS FIRMLY FIXED

The surface of the earth is broken into many
rigid plates that are about 100 km in thickness.
These plates float on a partially molten region
called aesthenosphere.

Mountain formations occur at the boundary of
the plates. The earth's crust is 5 km below
oceans, about 35 km thick below flat continental
surfaces and almost 80 km thick below great
mountain ranges. These are the strong
foundations on which mountains stand. The
QUR'AN also speaks about the strong mountain foundations in the following verse:

"And the mountains Hath HE firmly fixed."
[AL- QUR'AN 79:32]

Nonsense !!!

When you can't refute a thread you look for a way of diverting attention. The question in the OP is: why is quran in reported speeches. It shows quran is not direct words of allaah, Gabriel (a demon) and Muhammad made it up.
Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by annunaki2(m): 4:58pm On Jul 24, 2016
Presbulg:



First, The words of the Qu'ran are not words of anybody except that of Almighty God, so Mohammmed(SAW) didn't author the Qu'ran

So science has proved what the holy Qu'ran says about mountains.

Here, lemme school you cuz of another time before typing rubbish about what what you don't have any knowledge about

GEOLOGY

MOUNTAINS ARE LIKE PEGS (STAKES)[\b]

In geology, the phenomenon of 'folding', is a
recently discovered fact. Folding is responsible
for the formation of mountain ranges. The
earth's crust, on which we live, is like a solid
shell, while the deeper layers are hot and fluid,
and thus inhospitable to any form of life. It is
also known that the stability of the mountains is
linked to the phenomenon of folding, for it was
the folds that were to provide foundations for
the reliefs that constitute the mountains.

[b]Geologists tell us that the radius of the Earth is about 3,750 miles and the crust on which we live is very thin, ranging between 1 to 30 miles. Since, the crust is thin, it has a high possibility of shaking. Mountains act
like stakes or tent pegs that hold the earth's crust and give it stability. The [b]QUR'AN
contains exactly such a description in the following verse:[/b]

"Have WE not made The earth as a wide
Expanse, And the mountains as pegs?"
[AL- QUR'AN 78:6-7]


The word 'awtad' from the Qu'ran means stakes or pegs (like those used to anchor a tent); they are the deep foundations of geological folds. A book named 'Earth' is considered as a basic reference textbook on geology in many universities around the world. One of the authors of this book is Frank Press, who was the President of the Academy of Sciences in the USA for 12 years and was the Scientific Advisor to former US President Jimmy Carter. In this book he illustrates the mountain in a wedge-shape and the mountain itself as a small part of the whole, whose root is deeply entrenched in the ground. {Earth, Press and Siever, p.435. Also see Earth Science, Tarbuck and Lutgens, p. 157}

According to Dr. Press, the mountains play an important role in stabilizing the crust of the earth. The QUR'AN clearly mentions the function of the mountains in preventing the earth from shaking:

"And WE have set on the earth Mountains
standing firm, Lest it should shake with
them."
[AL- QUR'AN 21:31]


The Qur'anic descriptions are in perfect
agreement with modern geological data.

MOUNTAINS FIRMLY FIXED

The surface of the earth is broken into many
rigid plates that are about 100 km in thickness.
These plates float on a partially molten region
called aesthenosphere.

Mountain formations occur at the boundary of
the plates. The earth's crust is 5 km below
oceans, about 35 km thick below flat continental
surfaces and almost 80 km thick below great
mountain ranges. These are the strong
foundations on which mountains stand. The
QUR'AN also speaks about the strong mountain foundations in the following verse:

"And the mountains Hath HE firmly fixed."
[AL- QUR'AN 79:32]

Arrant nonsense! Give me a source from a reputable scientific website and not some rubbish written by an al taquiya muslim trying to give the quoran credibility.
Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by Nobody: 5:09pm On Jul 24, 2016
ooow God! warris dis slowpoke saying plsss grin
Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by truthman2012(m): 5:22pm On Jul 24, 2016
crusadistic:
ooow God! warris dis slowpoke saying plsss grin

Are you not the slowpoke in this case? You read something but couldn't understand it.

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Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by Nobody: 5:43pm On Jul 24, 2016
truthman2012:


Are you not the slowpoke in this case? You read something but couldn't understand it.
Sorry I simple can't comprehend such level of inanity
Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by masseratti: 5:45pm On Jul 24, 2016
annunaki2:


Arrant nonsense! Give me a source from a reputable scientific website and not some rubbish written by an al taquiya muslim trying to give the quoran credibility.
wait let me school him, thats what they are good at twisting words to suit their opinions. The guy had no idea that not all mountains are made from folds, i guess he never heard of volcanic mountain or mountains formed by glaciers.

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Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by truthman2012(m): 5:48pm On Jul 24, 2016
crusadistic:

Sorry I simple can't comprehend such level of inanity

If that is too difficult for you to understand, you need to go back to your school and collect some change from your school fees.

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Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by masseratti: 5:56pm On Jul 24, 2016
Presbulg:



First, The words of the Qu'ran are not words of anybody except that of Almighty God, so Mohammmed(SAW) didn't author the Qu'ran

So science has proved what the holy Qu'ran says about mountains.

Here, lemme school you cuz of another time before typing rubbish about what what you don't have any knowledge about

GEOLOGY

MOUNTAINS ARE LIKE PEGS (STAKES)[\b]

In geology, the phenomenon of 'folding', is a
recently discovered fact. Folding is responsible
for the formation of mountain ranges. The
earth's crust, on which we live, is like a solid
shell, while the deeper layers are hot and fluid,
and thus inhospitable to any form of life. It is
also known that the stability of the mountains is
linked to the phenomenon of folding, for it was
the folds that were to provide foundations for
the reliefs that constitute the mountains.

[b]Geologists tell us that the radius of the Earth is about 3,750 miles and the crust on which we live is very thin, ranging between 1 to 30 miles. Since, the crust is thin, it has a high possibility of shaking. Mountains act
like stakes or tent pegs that hold the earth's crust and give it stability. The [b]QUR'AN
contains exactly such a description in the following verse:[/b]

"Have WE not made The earth as a wide
Expanse, And the mountains as pegs?"
[AL- QUR'AN 78:6-7]


The word 'awtad' from the Qu'ran means stakes or pegs (like those used to anchor a tent); they are the deep foundations of geological folds. A book named 'Earth' is considered as a basic reference textbook on geology in many universities around the world. One of the authors of this book is Frank Press, who was the President of the Academy of Sciences in the USA for 12 years and was the Scientific Advisor to former US President Jimmy Carter. In this book he illustrates the mountain in a wedge-shape and the mountain itself as a small part of the whole, whose root is deeply entrenched in the ground. {Earth, Press and Siever, p.435. Also see Earth Science, Tarbuck and Lutgens, p. 157}

According to Dr. Press, the mountains play an important role in stabilizing the crust of the earth. The QUR'AN clearly mentions the function of the mountains in preventing the earth from shaking:

"And WE have set on the earth Mountains
standing firm, Lest it should shake with
them."
[AL- QUR'AN 21:31]


The Qur'anic descriptions are in perfect
agreement with modern geological data.

MOUNTAINS FIRMLY FIXED

The surface of the earth is broken into many
rigid plates that are about 100 km in thickness.
These plates float on a partially molten region
called aesthenosphere.

Mountain formations occur at the boundary of
the plates. The earth's crust is 5 km below
oceans, about 35 km thick below flat continental
surfaces and almost 80 km thick below great
mountain ranges. These are the strong
foundations on which mountains stand. The
QUR'AN also speaks about the strong mountain foundations in the following verse:

"And the mountains Hath HE firmly fixed."
[AL- QUR'AN 79:32]
oga please don't twist science geology for us please,
Your write up that the mountain Is like a wedge on the tent that hold the earth.

No 1 the earth crust is not stable its moving

No 2 there are different type and forms of mountain, yes Fold like you mentioned, am sure you av heard of volcanic mountain, glacier formed mountain, all the two are not formed by earth crust folding.

NO 3 what you wrote are fallacious

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Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by masseratti: 5:57pm On Jul 24, 2016
Presbulg:



First, The words of the Qu'ran are not words of anybody except that of Almighty God, so Mohammmed(SAW) didn't author the Qu'ran

So science has proved what the holy Qu'ran says about mountains.

Here, lemme school you cuz of another time before typing rubbish about what what you don't have any knowledge about

GEOLOGY

MOUNTAINS ARE LIKE PEGS (STAKES)[\b]

In geology, the phenomenon of 'folding', is a
recently discovered fact. Folding is responsible
for the formation of mountain ranges. The
earth's crust, on which we live, is like a solid
shell, while the deeper layers are hot and fluid,
and thus inhospitable to any form of life. It is
also known that the stability of the mountains is
linked to the phenomenon of folding, for it was
the folds that were to provide foundations for
the reliefs that constitute the mountains.

[b]Geologists tell us that the radius of the Earth is about 3,750 miles and the crust on which we live is very thin, ranging between 1 to 30 miles. Since, the crust is thin, it has a high possibility of shaking. Mountains act
like stakes or tent pegs that hold the earth's crust and give it stability. The [b]QUR'AN
contains exactly such a description in the following verse:[/b]

"Have WE not made The earth as a wide
Expanse, And the mountains as pegs?"
[AL- QUR'AN 78:6-7]


The word 'awtad' from the Qu'ran means stakes or pegs (like those used to anchor a tent); they are the deep foundations of geological folds. A book named 'Earth' is considered as a basic reference textbook on geology in many universities around the world. One of the authors of this book is Frank Press, who was the President of the Academy of Sciences in the USA for 12 years and was the Scientific Advisor to former US President Jimmy Carter. In this book he illustrates the mountain in a wedge-shape and the mountain itself as a small part of the whole, whose root is deeply entrenched in the ground. {Earth, Press and Siever, p.435. Also see Earth Science, Tarbuck and Lutgens, p. 157}

According to Dr. Press, the mountains play an important role in stabilizing the crust of the earth. The QUR'AN clearly mentions the function of the mountains in preventing the earth from shaking:

"And WE have set on the earth Mountains
standing firm, Lest it should shake with
them."
[AL- QUR'AN 21:31]


The Qur'anic descriptions are in perfect
agreement with modern geological data.

MOUNTAINS FIRMLY FIXED

The surface of the earth is broken into many
rigid plates that are about 100 km in thickness.
These plates float on a partially molten region
called aesthenosphere.

Mountain formations occur at the boundary of
the plates. The earth's crust is 5 km below
oceans, about 35 km thick below flat continental
surfaces and almost 80 km thick below great
mountain ranges. These are the strong
foundations on which mountains stand. The
QUR'AN also speaks about the strong mountain foundations in the following verse:

"And the mountains Hath HE firmly fixed."
[AL- QUR'AN 79:32]
Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by udatso: 7:23pm On Jul 24, 2016
Yinkame123:
I seems not to understand what the writer is driving at. It's indisputable that Quran is a revelation from Allah to Prophet Muhammad through angel Jubril. To use a simple logic since what the op uses is logic if I asked you to tell a friend that ' if you don't give me my money in three days I will make sure I get you arrested by the police'. The quran container 6666 verses and 124 chapters scientific research has proven that the words it contains is not that of a man but someone in the highest realm of the universe.

Are you a Muslim? You made very obvious mistakes there. Quran doesn't have 6666 verses not 124 chapters. Do your research well
Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by truthman2012(m): 7:29pm On Jul 24, 2016
udatso:

Are you a Muslim? You made very obvious mistakes there. Quran doesn't have 6666 verses not 124 chapters. Do your research well

That atheists solidarity for muslims at play !!!
Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by Demmzy15(m): 12:04am On Jul 25, 2016
annunaki2:


The purpose mohamed alluded to the points you raised above provides further evidence that he must have been hallucinating when he uttered such rubbish. Imagine saying that mountains are pegs to hold down the earth Arrant nonsense. angry
Purpose of mountains then?
Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by truthman2012(m): 7:19am On Jul 25, 2016
Demmzy15:
Purpose of mountains then?

Answer the OP boy !!!
Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by plappville(f): 8:16am On Jul 25, 2016
I have always understood that the content of the revelations of the quran were from Muhammed and the fabricated angel Gabriel.

There is no time God ever spoke out loud to the people directly in the Quran to authenticate his voice like he did in the bible. Yet Muslims will tell you that, These revelations were direct From God, and Mohammed’s task was only to repeat what he heard. Who then is the withness of how devine what Muhammad was telling.

THE ARABS are the most despirate people when it comes to religion issues. They do all to tag the one true God to thier religion. But thank God for the Bible. smiley

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Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by plappville(f): 8:26am On Jul 25, 2016
annunaki2:


Very good observation. smiley unfortunately the very people who this observation will benefit have been programmed not to use their brain as far as the quoran/islam is concerned.

Thats it, some people are so easy to brainwash, 95% of Muslims are brainwashed. One Albania woman working for me before told me how she became muslims. She knows nothing in the quran. She told me her grand mum and her mum were Muslims. That she never been to the mosque but she is a muslim by birth.

She will defend Muhammad with what her mum and her grandmother told her. She never took her time to study the quran by herself. Yet she is a Muslim.

I believe many muslims are like that. They are not Muslims by conversation. But by birth. undecided

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Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by plappville(f): 8:28am On Jul 25, 2016
Presbulg:



First, The words of the Qu'ran are not words of anybody except that of Almighty God, so Mohammmed(SAW) didn't author the Qu'ran

So science has proved what the holy Qu'ran says about mountains.

Here, lemme school you cuz of another time before typing rubbish about what what you don't have any knowledge about

GEOLOGY

MOUNTAINS ARE LIKE PEGS (STAKES)[\b]

In geology, the phenomenon of 'folding', is a
recently discovered fact. Folding is responsible
for the formation of mountain ranges. The
earth's crust, on which we live, is like a solid
shell, while the deeper layers are hot and fluid,
and thus inhospitable to any form of life. It is
also known that the stability of the mountains is
linked to the phenomenon of folding, for it was
the folds that were to provide foundations for
the reliefs that constitute the mountains.

[b]Geologists tell us that the radius of the Earth is about 3,750 miles and the crust on which we live is very thin, ranging between 1 to 30 miles. Since, the crust is thin, it has a high possibility of shaking. Mountains act
like stakes or tent pegs that hold the earth's crust and give it stability. The [b]QUR'AN
contains exactly such a description in the following verse:[/b]

"Have WE not made The earth as a wide
Expanse, And the mountains as pegs?"
[AL- QUR'AN 78:6-7]


The word 'awtad' from the Qu'ran means stakes or pegs (like those used to anchor a tent); they are the deep foundations of geological folds. A book named 'Earth' is considered as a basic reference textbook on geology in many universities around the world. One of the authors of this book is Frank Press, who was the President of the Academy of Sciences in the USA for 12 years and was the Scientific Advisor to former US President Jimmy Carter. In this book he illustrates the mountain in a wedge-shape and the mountain itself as a small part of the whole, whose root is deeply entrenched in the ground. {Earth, Press and Siever, p.435. Also see Earth Science, Tarbuck and Lutgens, p. 157}

According to Dr. Press, the mountains play an important role in stabilizing the crust of the earth. The QUR'AN clearly mentions the function of the mountains in preventing the earth from shaking:

"And WE have set on the earth Mountains
standing firm, Lest it should shake with
them."
[AL- QUR'AN 21:31]


The Qur'anic descriptions are in perfect
agreement with modern geological data.

MOUNTAINS FIRMLY FIXED

The surface of the earth is broken into many
rigid plates that are about 100 km in thickness.
These plates float on a partially molten region
called aesthenosphere.

Mountain formations occur at the boundary of
the plates. The earth's crust is 5 km below
oceans, about 35 km thick below flat continental
surfaces and almost 80 km thick below great
mountain ranges. These are the strong
foundations on which mountains stand. The
QUR'AN also speaks about the strong mountain foundations in the following verse:

"And the mountains Hath HE firmly fixed."
[AL- QUR'AN 79:32]

Brainwashed fellow.. grin
Re: Why Is The Quran In Reported Speeches ? by plappville(f): 8:31am On Jul 25, 2016
I know they will soon move this thread to the Islamic section as usual. angry

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