Tenkobos:
how about women focusing on being great women instead of opening silly topics online to fight that they be allowed to go unclad? or are they forbidden to be great.

Does it make any sense to you?

How many threads did the op open when that woman was killed in Kano? How about the one killed in abuja?

Listen dear, every man or woman who doesn't care about the effect his or her actions and inactions(including dressing) has on the society should have his or her sanity tested cause na so madness dey start.

LuveU2:
Funny u will say this, but single women go topless everyday before single men huh, in private. They enjoy the sight of her bossoms in their rooms (they will still shame her later anyway) but would curse her if she bares herself in public. Whar is the difference?

itseintel:
respect is earned, there are standards to earning respect.... ask the likes of Adichie and Amanpour if exposing cleavage was as important as working their way to recognition and respect.. And people who took them serious saw cleaves before intellect .. mis-direction is the problem facing feminism,not the male gender.... fight that first..

foolinlove:


Just look at the number of men on here shaming celebrities for showing cleavage.

I care about all people, not just myself.

LuveU2:


Tell that to the men who think because they re men can act however they want but would police every movement a woman makes

You dont create an enabling environment for women to be great. Most great women are great because they damned u and other men and what u think altogether.

You dont want great women, u want women who u can walk on as u want.

foolinlove:

You have not presented a logical argument.

chigoizie7:



I will beg to differ on that. "Men shaming women or celebrities for showing cleavage"

Women also shame women too,our mothers here in Africa shame such.

Let me be quick to tell u something here. We are africans, we have our values, if u found nothing wrong in such, please stop preaching on us to imbibe such cultures, if u are human enough, please respect who we are.

Can u eat "akpu"? I bet u don't know what it is or what it is used for, but I can't force u to eat it just because it makes us strong, it doesn't mean that some none africans don't eat it, but no one forced them.

So, if our african tradition frowns @ cleavage exposures or not, please allow us to be.

Men are not the only ones that frown @ it, even women u are trying to give a voice to also do.

So, just park one side with this ur going topless or not issue.

jamalnation:
I have nothing to say to u

foolinlove:


Wonderful! You're killing it and I love your posts

foolinlove:


It's patriarchal thought, not men. Some men are feminists.

Patriarchal thoughts are held by both genders, I am aware of that fact. Men shaming celebrities was used as an example.

LuveU2:
Be rational and logical when keeping laws not biased and selective.
Doing the later hurts many women but u wont understand because the society favours your gender more.

chigoizie7:



U re just confused, that's all.

Just know that different people have different views on life.

That fact that u see those ur patriarchal thoughts as something wrong or as un normal, does not mean that other people will see it the same way u did and it does not make it or them wrong.

U saw frowning or shaming of going topless by women as being bad.

Some other people also saw it as a normal thing, must u cajole them to believe in what u believed in?


For crying out loud, even those that has frowned on cleavage exposures or going topless, has never attacked u that has been going topless for God knows how long physically, legally or otherwise.

They have their own views the same way u have yours. So, once again, stop lamenting

KingCheezyPuff:
I feel 2 ways about this.
I don't like the idea of women being policed with respectability politics
.......❤
But I hate the hyper specialization if women in fashion and media that has made women 2 think showing their breast is the way 2 be sexy and attractive.

jamalnation:
Nobody is favouring anybody. Dats hw d system was design. You cant have two king in one village.

foolinlove:


It is patriarchal thought that is the problem facing feminism, not the male gender.

Women should not have to live up impossible patriarchal standards to earn respect. Men are given respect no matter what.

I'm not talking about respect for earning money etc. I'm talking about basic human respect. Being able to do as you please (things that hurt no one), with no judgement. Men do as they please and no one tells them what to do all the time.

Women get "advised" daily on how to behave, what to wear, how to do everything - like we're incapable of thinking for ourselves.

Women are not incapable of thinking.

foolinlove:


That's your taste in fashion. You're allowed to have different taste while still advocating for reduced sexualisation and body shaming.

Sexualisation of women is what leads to body shaming and policing.

KingCheezyPuff:
[No. It's not my tastes. But my resistance to being made into a eye pleader for males.

foolinlove:


Yes. What is your point?

However, women should not be told what to wear. Women don't exist merely to please men and decorate the world.

foolinlove:


I'm not confused at all. I care about all women. I will fight for their rights.

If you future daughter is raped, it is women like me who will stand up for them - while men like you will call them slvts and blame her for "asking" to be raped.

foolinlove:


Then you need to help change the way men think about women, instead of feeding into patriarchal thought patterns.

[Wrong. The style of dress of women today has everything to do with hyper sexuallization of women.
Do you notice men don't show their bodies but are still considered sexy and attractive to women?
...that's not exactly so for women.

I've had enough of this conversation. Bye.

LuveU2:
Thank u.

foolinlove:


Then you need to help change the way men think about women, instead of feeding into patriarchal thought patterns.

foolinlove:


That's your taste in fashion. You're allowed to have different taste while still advocating for reduced sexualisation and body shaming.

Sexualisation of women is what leads to body shaming and policing.

LuveU2:


Tell that to the men who think because they re men can act however they want but would police every movement a woman makes

You dont create an enabling environment for women to be great. Most great women are great because they damned u and other men and what u think altogether.

You dont want great women, u want women who u can walk on as u want.

IamLEGEND1:
There was never a world,neither will there be one where women would be seen in the same light as men. it's The simple truth.

I personally consider anyone,of any gender with feministic ideals to be intellectually inferior solely because everything that has to do with feminism is unadulterated nonsensè.

If you think you can expose ur boobs because it's a secondary sexual organ,just like the man's facial hair,then be my guest.see what happens.
Just because tomatoes and pepper are fruits doesn't mean you add them to ur fruit salad.

why are you males running around with the (f)
I think it's 7 of you doing it now. WHY

neocortex:


Why should you bother about what men think about you ?
Are you not woman enough ?
Are you being forced to accept men's scrutiny ?

It appears true feminism is gradually dying, gone are the days when
feminist go for what they want instead of trying to force men to accept
their behaviour.

If you are unable to achieve your goals, it is your fault not that of the
detractors.

LuveU2:
Good reason why i must embrace feminism to "even out" this notion that u are a king while i am a subject.
We all must suport equality so that only God remains the King.