hopefulLandlord:


This is another false conclusion

If there's such words as "original" atheist I should be one, I actually became atheist when I never knew the word

I became atheist in my secondary school when I told my best friend at the time that I don't believe in god

He asked me if I wanted to become a Muslim but I said no, that I don't want to belong to any; now I never even knew people like me existed until higher institution when a professor actually mentioned something in that line at a forum, I got home, took the dictionary and realised I wasn't alone in this, up till that moment I thought I was the only one in the world who lacked belief in any god

Do not jump into conclusion about how people became atheists

So since secondary school and even though you somehow found out you are not alone up till now you still have not read up on what you criticise and lack enough knowledge (your own words)

Thats why I said all you have are handmedowns (second hand info)

Guess I was right afterall.

Just stop talking pls. Your lies are becoming skyscrapers.

hopefulLandlord:


You're being dishonest

Like I said you're expert at half truths and juxtaposition

You just lie to pass a nonexistent point across
You told me to invite you to our gathering, I said I'm scared of YOU and extremists so I keep my anonymity

Now you're using that for a discussion about why I can't create an anti Islamic thread?

Is this how you do in real life?

Your words not mine

felixomor:


Eiya!

Testimony time

Blessing time

HopefulLandlord go and sleep your lies have found you out as it always does to all of you.

I have business on monday morning.

Thanks for lying and proving the Absurdity of Arheism.

naijadeyhia:



So since secondary school and even though you somehow found out you are not alone up till now you still have not read up on what you criticise and lack enough knowledge (your own words)

Thats why I said all you have are handmedowns (second hand info)

Guess I was right afterall.

Just stop talking pls. Your lies are becoming skyscrapers.

You can't discuss coherently

Your passive aggressive style ain't helping either

I've noticed you barely want a conversation, just arguments back and forth, so when you meet someone that wants conversation you're not used to it

Now let me tell you something you already know but are playing dumb about to make a conclusion in your head

Islam Judaism and Christianity are all "Abrahamic religion" they all worship the same god in different ways

Your intellectual dishonesty and lies is appalling

naijadeyhia:
HopefulLandlord go and sleep your lies have found you out as it always does to all of you.

I have business on monday morning.

Thanks for lying and proving the Absurdity of Arheism.

Naijadehia go and sleep your lies have found you out as it always does to all of you.
I have business on monday morning.
Thanks for lying and proving the Absurdity of Theism

naijadeyhia:


Your words not mine

Is this how you tell blatant lies in real life? You claim not to have lied in years but here you are on an anonymous forum telling lies

I hope you do all your lying here

hopefulLandlord:


Blessing time

My Sincere heartfelt message to you (not kidding) is that you should study before arriving at conclusions.
I have studied works of atheists, before i arrived at my own little conclusions about them.

But its not fair when u make conclusions on religion as a topic and also then assume evrybody does what u do.
No, not right.

Study is vital, be u atheist or non atheist. Or else u stick to ur own lane, while avoiding making conclusion on what u have not studied.

Thats just all I can tell u. I wont say more
Because I know atheist never like to be exposed.
Thats Why Many of the powerful ones among them kill many of their followers for opposing their views.

U may be different tho.

Selah.

felixomor:


My Sincere heartfelt message to you (not kidding) is that you should study before arriving at conclusions.
I have studied works of atheists, before i arrived at my own little conclusions about them.

I've studied and still studying, I suggest you don't stop studying

But its not fair when u make conclusions on religion as a topic and also then assume evrybody does what u do.
No, not right.

Life is too short to study all religions up close bro, I'm sure you only studied a handful out of the thousands available and I'm certain you were born into a home of Yahweh believers which went a long way into influencing your choice

Study is vital, be u atheist or non atheist. Or else u stick to ur own lane, while avoiding making conclusion on what u have not studied.

I advice you do the same, study all religions, I'm sure you won't finish before you're dead

Thats just all I can tell u. I wont say more

good contributions so far

Because I know atheist never like to be exposed.

I prefer keeping my anonymity, thanks

Thats Why Many of the powerful ones among them kill many of their followers for opposing their views.

You talking Islam here?

U may be different tho.

Selah.

hopefulLandlord:


I've studied and still studying, I suggest you don't stop studying


Life is too short to study all religions up close bro, I'm sure you only studied a handful out of the thousands available and I'm certain you were born into a home of Yahweh believers which went a long way into influencing your choice


I advice you do the same, study all religions, I'm sure you won't finish before you're dead


good contributions so far


I prefer keeping my anonymity, thanks

Again, I was not born a christian. (there u go again,)

We once worshipped many different gods. I am a product of grace, I wasnt saved by my quest.

that asides,

gods are numerous but "religions" are lesser in number.

And if u study well, many of the "gods" u refer to are simply "mediators" so to say.
Many religions believe in a single creator who made the universe while they pray through these "mediators".

And if u feel they are too many for study, simply stay in the middle by saying "I dont know' or "we cant say"

Thats it.

felixomor:


Again, I was not born a christian. (there u go again,)

We once worshipped many different gods. I am a product of grace, I wasnt saved by my quest.

that asides,

gods are numerous but "religions" are lesser in number.

And if u study well, many of the "gods" u refer to are simply "mediators" so to say.
Many religions believe in a single creator who made the universe while they pray through these "mediators".

And if u feel they are too many for study, simply stay in the middle by saying "I dont know' or "we cant say"

Thats it.

Twisting Yahweh to Christian to make a point is pulling the same stunt Naijadehia pulls while putting down his parents in the process
What god did your parents believed in the most? What's the name? You could've worshipped many gods along the way but I'm pretty certain your parents were not Muslims, oh! And some of those church members of yours also go to pagan gods at times, a very few people admit being pagans

hopefulLandlord:


I've studied and still studying, I suggest you don't stop studying


Life is too short to study all religions up close bro, I'm sure you only studied a handful out of the thousands available and I'm certain you were born into a home of Yahweh believers which went a long way into influencing your choice


........................

These are ur words o. Not mine.

Abi no be Yahweh Christians dey worship again?
I just tire.

naijadeyhia:



Weah96 has conveniently and honorably bowed out since he realised his folly and you are here asking for proof from his own post which you also attested to it being lies?

Smh. Atheists and confusion are cojoined twins.

You embarked on a public campaign to get me banned, received your wish, and called it bowing out.

The bible god would have slapped you for that grimy behavior. But like I've been saying, he's imaginary.

naijadeyhia:


Cc kingebukanaija, deepsight, winner01, hopefulLandlord, dalaman, weah96, seun,


http://www.chaim.org/atheist.htm

Mr oga..in ur long note...u made reference to the bible...a bible which u cant prove its authenticity...or can u?..
A bible which i can confidently boast of bringing over 50 lies in it?..

On morality...well have u had a pet once?...morality aint limited to humans..if thats ur belief..
Morality is a cultural concept with a basis in evolutionary psychology and game theory (jst a theory..bt has proofs). Species whose members were predisposed to cooperate were more likely to survive and pass on their genes. Reciprocacy, altruism and other so-called ‘moral’ characteristics are evident in many species . The neurochemical thought to regulate morality and empathy is oxytocin ..
Morals are very evidents in chimps.birds etc...
On ur concept of god morality sef..
The god character of the Bible is a misogynistic tyrant that condones and even orders the practice of slavery, rape of women and murder of children. The moment you disagree with a single instruction of the Bible, such as the command to kill any bride who is not a virgin or any child who disrespects their parents, then you acknowledge that there exists a superior standard by which to judge moral action and thus no need to rely on an ancient, primitive and barbaric fantasy.
..it seems ure saying without god..we cant do right tinzz?

On an intelligent designer...
Complexity does not imply design and does not prove the existence of a god. Even if design could be established we cannot conclude anything about the nature of the designer (Aliens?). Furthermore, many biological systems have obvious defects consistent with the predictions of evolution by means of natural selection. The appearance of complexity and order in the universe is the result of spontaneous self- organisation and pattern formation, caused by chaotic feedback between simple physical laws and rules. All the complexity of the universe, all its apparent richness, even life itself, arises from simple, mindless rules repeated over and over again for billions of years. Current scientific theories are able to clearly explain how complexity and order arise in physical systems. Any lack of understanding does not immediately imply ‘god’.
In chemistry..Note: Crystallisation is one example of how matter can readily self-organise into complex, ordered shapes and structures eg. Bismuth.
Even planets have been observed to form out of nebulae..

A wise man..said this..
“I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world.” – Richard Dawkins..
And i concur

3 His resurrection is historically
documented, having been witnessed by the
early Messianic Jewish believers who recorded
their testimonies and were willing to die for
what they knew to be true.

There's no living relative of ur historical jesus...we have seen a lotta cases where humans are willing to die for their misquided beliefs?..a lot of them..i can gv u some if u want...u can ask me...
Also testimonies which ur messianic jewish believers friends recorded were highly false...take for example the total darkness..earthquake and dead ghosts rising up and roaming the city..it is suprising that such record of such phenomenal events do not exist awtside of ur bible..wow..and suprisingly only matthew recorded these walking deads...one begins to wonder..
Also..take king herod's wonderful massacre of kids 2 years and below....theres no such record of such a massacre by contemporary historians outside of the bible...not even josephus who documented herod's life in detail mentioned of it..
If every human life has a value because it was created by god..what abt life of animals which ur god supposedly created?..valueless?..all shvts..
Atheism boring?....did u jst say this?
Science adjusts it’s understanding based on what’s observed. Faith/religion is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved.” – Tim Minchin..
I actually think religion defines that
i repeat..
A wise man..said this..
“I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world.” – Richard Dawkins..
Amnesty for atheists?...what shud be asked or said is ''what wud convince an atheist of a god's existence?
A particular standard of evidence is required to prove any claim..this standard is adjusted based oon the claim made..since gods existence is and extraordinary claim?..hence extraordinary evidence is needed
this standard is immediately more than personal anecdote..witness testimony..ancient book or reported miracle-none of which can be considered extraordinarily reliable...the human mind is highly suspectible to being fooled and even fooling itself..one cud be suffering frm a form of undiagnosed hysteria or psychosis ruling out even our ownn senses as reliable evidence gathering mechanisms in this case..
Every conceivable arguement...every imaginable piece of evidence for god is not without some fatal flaw or more likely explanation which precludes it frm being used as definitive proof...NOTE:this is different frm being a close minded fellow..the simple answer to this question is:God is what it takes to convice an atheist..an ominiscient god wud knw the exact standard of evidence required to convince an atheist or anybody of its existence and being ominipotent wud provide such..
On ur case of Hitler and Nazi's..pls do ur research well...i beg u
Hitler was religious and publicly decried atheism..stalinism and communism exercised gosateizm based on idea of marxism-leninism
atheism was a means to an end...NOT A CAUSE:..
''we are convinced that the people need and require this faith.We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement,and that not merely with a few theoritical declarations:we have stamped it out.''-Adolf Hitler...
A picture of catholic priests performing a nazi salute below...
Also one the concept of evil or bad..pls refer to isiah 45:7...and tell me what it means?..he clearly said he creates evil...simple as abc

"Our epoch will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity," and claimed that "The Christian religion is nothing but a Jewish sect," and that, "One is either a Christian or a German. You cannot be both."

- Adolf Hitler

Before some people begin to deny their founding fathers. Mschewww

felixomor:


"Our epoch will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity," and claimed that "The Christian religion is nothing but a Jewish sect," and that, "One is either a Christian or a German. You cannot be both."

- Adolf Hitler

Before some people begin to deny their founding fathers. Mschewww

Hitler himself possessed radical instincts in relation
to the conflict with the Churches in Germany.
Though he occasionally spoke of wanting to delay
the Church struggle and was prepared to restrain
his anti-clericalism out of political considerations,
his "own inflammatory comments gave his immediate underlings all the license they needed to
turn up the heat in the Church Struggle, confident
that they were 'working towards the Fuhrer,'" according to Kershaw. [29] In public speeches, he did not portray himself and the Nazi movement to
the German people as outspoken proponents of atheism, but rather as faithful Christians. In 1928 Hitler said in a speech: "We tolerate no one in
our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity ... in fact our movement is Christian."
Nazism itself was a religion, a
pagan religion, and Hitler was its high priest(Messiah)... Its
high altar [was] Germany itself and the German
people, their soil and forests and language and traditions".
Think best graded as deism..
Hitler wanted to kind of unify the protestant churches into a single church with smtin labelled as positive christianity..
My point here is that hitler was religious
Another speech [b]''I would like here to appeal to a greater than I,
Count Lerchenfeld. He said in the last session of
the Landtag that his feeling 'as a man and a
Christian' prevented him from being an anti-
Semite. I say: My feeling as a Christian points me
to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews
for what they were and summoned men to
fight against them and who, God's truth! was
greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In
boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how
the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the
scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood
of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight
against the Jewish poison. Today, after two
thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before
the fact that it was for this that He had to shed
his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian, I have
no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice."[/b]
HITLER'S PUBLIC SPEECH AGAINST ATHEISM
In early 1933, Hitler publicly defended National
Socialism against charges that it was anti-Christian.
Responding to accusations by Eugen Bolz, the Catholic Centre Party Staatspräsident of Württemberg, that the National Socialist movement threatened the Christian faith, he said: “ And now Staatspräsident Bolz says that Christianity and the Catholic faith are
threatened by us. And to that charge I can
answer: In the first place it is Christians and not
international atheists who now stand at the
head of Germany. I do not merely talk of
Christianity, no, I also profess that I will never ally myself with the parties which destroy
Christianity. If many wish today to take
threatened Christianity under their protection,
where, I would ask, was Christianity for them
in these fourteen years when they went arm in
arm with atheism? No, never and at no time was greater internal damage done to
Christianity than in these fourteen years when
a party, theoretically Christian, sat with those who denied God in one and the same
Government. — Adolf Hitler,Speech delivered at Stuttgart 15 February 1933"
a whole lot more that shows he is religious

raphieMontella:

Hitler himself possessed radical instincts in relation
to the conflict with the Churches in Germany.
Though he occasionally spoke of wanting to delay
the Church struggle and was prepared to restrain
his anti-clericalism out of political considerations,
his "own inflammatory comments gave his immediate underlings all the license they needed to
turn up the heat in the Church Struggle, confident
that they were 'working towards the Fuhrer,'" according to Kershaw. [29] In public speeches, he did not portray himself and the Nazi movement to
the German people as outspoken proponents of atheism, but rather as faithful Christians. In 1928 Hitler said in a speech: "We tolerate no one in
our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity ... in fact our movement is Christian."
Nazism itself was a religion, a
pagan religion, and Hitler was its high priest(Messiah)... Its
high altar [was] Germany itself and the German
people, their soil and forests and language and traditions".
Think best graded as deism..
Hitler wanted to kind of unify the protestant churches into a single church with smtin labelled as positive christianity..
My point here is that hitler was religious
Another speech [b]''I would like here to appeal to a greater than I,
Count Lerchenfeld. He said in the last session of
the Landtag that his feeling 'as a man and a
Christian' prevented him from being an anti-
Semite. I say: My feeling as a Christian points me
to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews
for what they were and summoned men to
fight against them and who, God's truth! was
greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In
boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how
the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the
scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood
of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight
against the Jewish poison. Today, after two
thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before
the fact that it was for this that He had to shed
his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian, I have
no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice."[/b]
HITLER'S PUBLIC SPEECH AGAINST ATHEISM
In early 1933, Hitler publicly defended National
Socialism against charges that it was anti-Christian.
Responding to accusations by Eugen Bolz, the Catholic Centre Party Staatspräsident of Württemberg, that the National Socialist movement threatened the Christian faith, he said: “ And now Staatspräsident Bolz says that Christianity and the Catholic faith are
threatened by us. And to that charge I can
answer: In the first place it is Christians and not
international atheists who now stand at the
head of Germany. I do not merely talk of
Christianity, no, I also profess that I will never ally myself with the parties which destroy
Christianity. If many wish today to take
threatened Christianity under their protection,
where, I would ask, was Christianity for them
in these fourteen years when they went arm in
arm with atheism? No, never and at no time was greater internal damage done to
Christianity than in these fourteen years when
a party, theoretically Christian, sat with those who denied God in one and the same
Government. — Adolf Hitler,Speech delivered at Stuttgart 15 February 1933"
a whole lot more that shows he is religious

Religious ke...
All these was before he became leader, before his govt.
When he became leader of Germany, he declared himself supreme.
Its well known that Hitler was a supreme leader that was worshipped by many.

#Fact

winner01:
Yeah mehn. Long time. I was banned for nothing. or maybe for obvious reasons.

And I wish your memes were brain tasking and not so cheap.

1. God created hell for the devil and his demons, not for man. You choose hell by rejecting God. It just the same way you choose failure by rejecting to prepare for exams. No one forces failure on another. It is the consequence of an action

2. Jesus actually died for our sins. And it will do you a lot of good to embrace Him while His arms are yet wide open.

3. This is a bit funny cos the lips that pray are also the hands that help and are still helping, and I can give innumerable proof of these hands.

4. Well, God created the devil. How and why the seed of evil germinated in lucifer, we may never fully understand. And so technically we can say God created evil. It is still not enough reason for you to wish God did not exist.


Your memes are weak and getting stale.
God help you.

In respect to 1, I have noticed a pattern where Christian apologists like you concede that humans create their bad luck in order to avoid the divine purpose from being defeated. For example here you say Hell was destined for demons and the devils but not humans. But by God's omniscience and on account of his foreknowledge he would have known humans would be accommodated in Hell. So the divine purpose is rubbished.

No2. I struggle to understand the curative effect of the death of a man or the death of Jesus. It does not cure the injustice present today. The fatal flaw in man which leads him to sin isn't cured. A fully grown born again falls and lapses into the same sins. Worse off, born agains are now classical hypocrites. As long as men sin and commit injustice, Jesus's death is pointless.

4. You will never fully understand when you refuse to see that a fundamental cornerstone of your religion is assuming the devil is the originator of evil. And for God to be an absolute being from which everything owes an origin, he has to willingly create evil.

felixomor:


Atheism has killed hundreds of millions of people more than all religions put together.
And thats using statistics from the last century alone.
And also, only using stats from Russia, China and Cambodia alone.

Religion dey learn for where atheism dey kill o.

This theme turns up every now and then on Nairaland. But upon whose ethical standard are you judging these atheists? Christian's or secular?

felixomor:


Religious ke...
All these was before he became leader, before his govt.
When he became leader of Germany, he declared himself supreme.
Its well known that Hitler was a supreme leader that was worshipped by many.

#Fact

felix..it seems u didnnt read my post before u quoted..if u tink m giving false shvts...u can do ur research...
Hitlers Nazi party was a religious movement..which he even labelled as christian..tho we knw it was a misquided belief of what christianity was...it was that same nazi party that led him to be chancellor and established Nazism..and pursue his religious beliefs...
Mr felix..i never said hitler wasnt a dictator...he was a bloody tyrant who shud have been killed at birth...bt the op said/felt hitlers movement was atheistic which is wrong...thats my point man..Hitler was religious...
FACT: HITLER WAS NOT AN ATHEIST...
His nazism was a kinda positive christianity in a diesm manner...
Do ur research man...

raphieMontella:

felix..it seems u didnnt read my post before u quoted..if u tink m giving false shvts...u can do ur research...
Hitlers Nazi party was a religious movement..which he even labelled as christian..tho we knw it was a misquided belief of what christianity was...it was that same nazi party that led him to be chancellor and established Nazism..and pursue his religious beliefs...
Mr felix..i never said hitler wasnt a dictator...he was a bloody tyrant who shud have been killed at birth...bt the op said/felt hitlers movement was atheistic which is wrong...thats my point man..Hitler was religious...
FACT: HITLER WAS NOT AN ATHEIST...
His nazism was a kinda positive christianity in a diesm manner...
Do ur research man...

Hitler himself was the religion. Nazi movement was never labelled "christian" by any reliable source (that is false)

Its like you dont know what a "supreme leader" means.

Go to North Korea and see what "supreme leader" means.

I showed u a quote from Hitler,

By that quote alone, u should be able to make a conclusion.

No Christian can ever make such statement.

Many atheists, here even on nairaland started life as christians and even some say they still attend church with their family.

So for such atheist, if they become like Hitler tomorrow now, u will come and tell me they are religious abi?

Great

Kay17:


This theme turns up every now and then on Nairaland. But upon whose ethical standard are you judging these atheists? Christian's or secular?

Both my brother.

Even there are other records too.

It is also well known that most confesssed serial killers too are atheists.

The generally least charitable people too are atheists. (More charity organizations are run by religious people)

ETc....

felixomor:


Hitler himself was the religion. Nazi movement was never labelled "christian" by any reliable source (that is false)

m highly dissapointed that u choose to ignore clear facts jst to swim in ur own beliefs...
In 1928 Hitler said in a speech: "We tolerate no one in
our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity ... in fact our movement is Christian."
source:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Nazi_Germany.
he said it again..this same link...
''I would like here to appeal to a greater than I,
Count Lerchenfeld. He said in the last session of
the Landtag that his feeling 'as a man and a
Christian' prevented him from being an anti-
Semite. I say: My feeling as a Christian points
me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter... It points me
to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews
for what they were and summoned men to
fight against them and who, God's truth! was
greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I
read through the passage which tells us how
the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the
scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood
of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight
against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I
recognize more profoundly than ever before
the fact that it was for this that He had to shed
his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian, I have
no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice."

Its like you dont know what a "supreme leader" means.

Go to North Korea and see what "supreme leader" means.

I showed u a quote from Hitler,

By that quote alone, u should be able to make a conclusion.

No Christian can ever make such statement.

this shows u didnt readd my previous posts...well google is there for u...the definition of german used is in relation to his religious beliefs(nazism/deism) nt atheism....
I gave u his speeches condemning atheism..i can do that again with links...try to be of clear mind when reading...

Many atheists, here even on nairaland started life as christians and even some say they still attend church with their family.

So for such atheist, if they become like Hitler tomorrow now, u will come and tell me they are religious abi?

Great

..
i also started out as a christian..i dnt get ur point..what u saying is that hitler was an atheist during his tyrant rule...baba thats a big lie..he was a religious man...wit distorted views of christianity...he called his movement christian..bt for the sake of clarity being that i knw what christianity is..bt he was religious...that has been my point here man...hitler publicly condemned atheism nt jst once asin a couple of times...ma still show u again?...since u like reliable sources...its oon that same page i gave u..

Other core Nazi members who labelled their movement as a christian one...
“ Dr Zoellner and [Catholic Bishop of Munster] Count Galen have tried to make clear to me that Christianity consists in faith in Christ as the son
of God. That makes me laugh... No, Christianity
is not dependent upon the Apostle's Creed... True Christianity is represented by the party,
and the German people are now called by the
party and especially the Fuehrer to a real
Christianity... the Fuehrer is the herald of a new
revelation." — Hans Kerrl, Nazi Minister for Church Affairs, 1937 ”
“ We are no theologians, no representatives of
the teaching profession in this sense, put forth
no theology. But we claim one thing for
ourselves: that we place the great fundamental
idea of Christianity in the center of our ideology
[Ideenwelt]- the hero and sufferer Christ himself stands in the center."[46] — Hans Schemm, Nazi Gauleiter ”
source:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Nazi_Germany
@felix

naijadeyhia:
HopefulLandlord go and sleep your lies have found you out as it always does to all of you.

I have business on monday morning.

Thanks for lying and proving the Absurdity of Arheism.

Thanks for this thread . The wickedness , absurdity and the thirst for blood by atheists are being exposed . No wonder atheists can't reply with reasonable posts . I saw only empty unintelligent responses - a salient characteristic of a typical atheist

I am yet to meet any smart atheist . Why is this so ?

Crazyfinedude:
I am yet to meet any smart atheist . Why is this so ?

have u seen a smart theist?
Pro'ly ure gonna say ure one..

raphieMontella:

have u seen a smart theist?
Pro'ly ure gonna say ure one..

There are so many smart theists on this forum and they will always continue to be but I've never seen any smart atheist . Not once . Just bunch of below average individuals who are smart-people wannabes - trying too hard to appear smart . Nothing logical about their thoughts . I'm sorry but that's the truth .

felixomor:


Both my brother.

Even there are other records too.

It is also well known that most confesssed serial killers too are atheists.

The generally least charitable people too are atheists. (More charity organizations are run by religious people)

ETc....

Now that you admit a secular ethical standard wouldn't allow such "crimes", meaning an atheistic ethics is possible. Then on what basis do you criticise these atheists?

raphieMontella:

m highly dissapointed that u choose to ignore clear facts jst to swim in ur own beliefs...
In 1928 Hitler said in a speech:
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i also started out as a christian..i dnt get ur point..what u saying is that hitler was an atheist during his tyrant rule...baba thats a big lie..he was a religious man...wit distorted views of christianity...he called his movement christian..bt for the sake of clarity being that i knw what christianity is..bt he was religious...that has been my point here man...hitler publicly condemned atheism nt jst once asin a couple of times...ma still show u again?...since u like reliable sources...its oon that same page i gave u..

My Belief really?, When u say somebody is [b]religious, I really want to know what u mean. Are u using the dictionary meaning or what?

Here is a cut From the same reliable page u quoted. (Not my own source o)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler
[b]
Views on religion
Main article: Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Hitler was born to a practising Catholic mother and an anticlerical father; after leaving home Hitler never again attended Mass or received the sacraments.[368][369][370] Speer states that Hitler made harsh pronouncements against the church to his political associates and though he never officially left it, he had no attachment to it.[371] He adds that Hitler felt that in the absence of the church the faithful would turn to mysticism, which he considered a step backwards.[371] According to Speer, Hitler believed that either Japanese religious beliefs or Islam would have been a more suitable religion for the Germans than Christianity, with its "meekness and flabbiness".[372]

Historian John S. Conway states that Hitler was fundamentally opposed to the Christian churches.[373] According to Bullock, Hitler did not believe in God, was anticlerical, and held Christian ethics in contempt because they contravened his preferred view of "survival of the fittest".[374] He favoured aspects of Protestantism that suited his own views, and adopted some elements of the Catholic Church's hierarchical organisation, liturgy, and phraseology in his politics.[375]

Hitler viewed the church as an important politically conservative influence on society,[376] and he adopted a strategic relationship with it that "suited his immediate political purposes".[373] In public, Hitler often praised Christian heritage and German Christian culture, though professing a belief in an "Aryan Jesus", one who fought against the Jews.[377] Any pro-Christian public rhetoric was at variance with his private statements, which described Christianity as "absurdity"[378] and nonsense founded on lies.[379]

According to a U.S. Office of Strategic Services report, "The Nazi Master Plan", Hitler planned to destroy the influence of Christian churches within the Reich.[380][381] His eventual goal was the total elimination of Christianity.[382] This goal informed Hitler's movement early on, but he saw it as inexpedient to express this extreme position publicly.[383] According to Bullock, Hitler wanted to wait until after the war before executing this plan.[384]

Speer wrote that Hitler had a negative view of Himmler's and Alfred Rosenberg's mystical notions and Himmler's attempt to mythologise the SS. Hitler was more pragmatic, and his ambitions centred on more practical concerns.[385][386.................[/b]

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Maybe we will have to settle it by using the dictionary meaning of who a "religious person" is.

Kay17:


Now that you admit a secular ethical standard wouldn't allow such "crimes", meaning an atheistic ethics is possible. Then on what basis do you criticise these atheists?

Criticism comes when they try to accuse religious people of being murderous, when they themselves have the worst statistics on human life termination and empathy deficiency.

Crazyfinedude:


There are so many smart theists on this forum and they will always continue to be but I've never seen any smart atheist . Not once . Just bunch of below average individuals who are smart-people wannabes - trying too hard to appear smart . Nothing logical about their thoughts . I'm sorry but that's the truth .

this shows ure close minded..i dnt have to argue this wit u..bt i believe the internet is there for u..i wont spoon-feed u on smart individuals here...bt based on statistics
the average atheist is smarter than the average religionist...u can clerify it urself...
P.s..ure free to ignore and think what u want..i wont bite u..