01Mysticdon:

I believe we have a God but religions all over the world don't know his nature.
I'm seeking the truth.
I also believe that Jesus was a popular figure in his time that preaches oneness, love, hardwork and forgiveness but he was overhyped by his followers.

kilo4sure:

Even the old testament is a volume of many books with various ideas that may even differ from one another. In my view the old testament as a whole is by inspiration of God and they contain the human story. But l do not believe everything written therein are to be taken literally. We have inspiring books like Ecclesiastes,psalms,proverbs(my favorite), job, and of course Esther. Then we have the beautiful story of Joseph and the eventful, adventurous life of David. Of course the old testament is very important to me as a christian and l cherish it, but l do not enjoy all books equally, for instance l find it difficult to understand the prophets. Also, l believe in the worldview of some of the old testament authors, God is responsible for everything both good and evil, even Satan does not act on his own, and he is like a messenger of God.

JerryQ:


Your belief is not Christian like. Jesus Christ is not an overhyped popular figure to us Christians. You Speak like a Muslim, you are not asking to know, you are only here to sell your twisted idea. If you are not sure about a subject it might be best you leave it only or ask sincere questions.

01Mysticdon:

if any of the religions in the world have Knowledge (knowing his nature) about God don't you think that would have been the end to Man's problem?
But No. Religions are based of beliefs.

mhiztee:
first of all I want to appreciate your school of thought but I want to correct it .....Satan since the time that name was given he as stopped working for God the old testament shows us the mistake of some characters so that we as Christians won't follow their foot steps ...... during the time of old they were living under the law because of the sin of Adam and Eve so God turned is back against man and did not speak with man bur with his prophet which he hand picked by himself ....buh the new testament tells us about how God came to die and removed the veil between man and God ....and please Christians were first given the name in Antioch because the people behave like Christ .....in all their doings .....I hope I have answered your question

Muafrika2:


Man's problems are not caused by lack of that knowledge. They are caused by people who know exactly who God is, and believe, and despise Him through rebellion and oppression.

The people who don't have that knowledge are some of the most harmless in this world. So if your atheism is simply out of lack of knowledge, you are blessed. If it's out of rebellion with all the knowledge you need, you are the devil that's responsible for the woes of your neighbours.

01Mysticdon:

which do you believe base on that. The old or the new testament?

kilo4sure:

I believe the new testament, however l believe we give the Devil too much credit and power. However the nature of God becomes more interesting when we combine both testaments and of course gives us much food for thought. In the old testament, Yahweh is good though indifferent. He is just, and does what he has to do. In the new testament, the Devil is more prominent as an opposer to God's divine will, and God is light and there's no trace of darkness in him, he is not counting our sin against us and does not punish instantly, he is love and he is willing to help our weaknesses all the way. I am more inclined to the new testament but l believe there's a lot to learn from the old. It is interesting though.

mhiztee:
well Satan sponsored somethings in the bible like the case of samson, Moses,and some other heroes of faith buh we can't say all even in the case of job it was Satan that met God to take permission to tempt job ....so we can say God used Satan to put job on a test

01Mysticdon:

If Jehovah/Yahweh give permission to satan don't you think he is evil?
It's just like Buhari giving orders to BH to carry suicide bomb attacks.

kilo4sure:

I believe the book of job is a fascinating book asking more questions than giving answers. In proverbs, the righteous is duly rewarded and the wicked punished in this life. This was the dominant view of the Israelites. The book of job is a paradigm shift that looks into the problem of suffering, it is more than a simplistic characterization of who is good or evil.

01Mysticdon:

If Jehovah/Yahweh give permission to satan don't you think he is evil?
It's just like Buhari giving orders to BH to carry suicide bomb attacks.

mhiztee:
Yahweh is not evil whenever he gives permission is to test the the person is just like someone writing examination after lots of lesson that it and it won't tempt the person higher than is level

01Mysticdon:

like Buhari telling Bh to carry out suicide attacks?

mhiztee:
noo sir is not like that God is superior to all humans and things buh God does not send satan to tempt man ...man is never tempted by God ...you need to start reading the bible to understand the supremacy and work of God

01Mysticdon:
Alright. I now get Christianity is related to the old testament. But I got this question. Why is it that the name Yahweh or Jehovah was not mentioned in the new testatment.

01Mysticdon:

just like Buhari giving orders to Bh to carry out suicide attacks to test whether we are security conscious

01Mysticdon:

since Yahweh is greater than Satan don't you think Satan must have received orders from above before tempting someone?

mhiztee:
because Jesus came ....Jesus came to break the veil covered by sin and law he can to clear it because in the old testament there was no connection between everyone in the face of the earth then holy true prophet that God talked to...but when Jesus died the veil was torn ..so all men could connect to God without any prophet ....

mhiztee:
Satan lives on heart so is easy for him to manipulate man and his a very wise

kilo4sure:
I do not understand how you conclude from what he/she said that yahweh created a veil or he placed Satan in everyone's heart.
You said you are here to learn, but the last few questions you have asked seem to spark of insincerity on your part.

hopefulLandlord:


Let me ask you personally

Why do you guys quote a certain bible verse in the old testament to condemn an act but when few verses away shows a certain thing it also condemns but you do them anyways and when that is pointed out, you guys be like "we are under new covenant"?

4everGod:
I was right when I discerned that the OP was not here to learn nor was he on the verge or any decision.

He opened this thread to carry out a comparison between Christianity and another "form" of Christianity. More like God and "another" kind of God whose foundation and school of thought I already foreknew.

Muafrika2 and kilo4sure you need to discern thi guy like I did which was why I asked him the questions I did earlier.

Don't always be in a hurry to refute or dialogue with anyone. Let the spirit of God guide you or else you will end up in mockery disguised as an argument or in blasphemy disguised as curiousity.

kilo4sure:
I do not understand how you conclude from what he/she said that yahweh created a veil or he placed Satan in everyone's heart.
You said you are here to learn, but the last few questions you have asked seem to spark of insincerity on your part.