ndu_chucks:


@naijaking; i no go respond to ya other post, na distraction wey no get use. i know say una no believe in freedom. if i like, my name go be nnamdi. wettin concern una with dat.

Onlytruth:

What truth That the north was economically unviable before 1914 hence the Lugardian amalgamation to support the north with the resources from the south?
Is it true that Nigeria's best minds have run Nigeria from after the war till date?
What is the truth here?

Onlytruth:

For unsuspecting readers:

ndu_chucks is Hausa!

ndu_chucks = Arewa

Notes taken!

gowaga68:

You are wroung Man the North dont depend on the South or any  place during those time if you dont mind can u tell me lil of those resources cos we dont eat coal n i may not know what else then?
One the leadership of the Best Minds well you are 100 % right they messed up.
but what i was sayin of the truth is your fellow Igbo man is tellin the truth and you are all tryin to eat him up. too bad.Nice to Know what else??

gowaga68:


One the leadership of the Best Minds well you are 100 % right they messed up.
but what i was sayin of the truth is your fellow Igbo man is tellin the truth and you are all tryin to eat him up. too bad.Nice to Know what else??

duabba:

Tell me, I pray, why haven't the igbos been able to sustain a formidable political front in Nigeria? They rather scuttle their brothers ambitions and side with others (Nzeribe's Another Better Nigeria readily comes to mind) politics for little crumbs of bread. Whatever an igbo man does it is 80% for selfish reason. Whatever Ojukwu did was to save his own skin, even he knows it in his heart of hearts. It is sickening to hear igbos shouting that other tribes hate them especially when the see themselves as the best thing to happen to Nigeria. They once claimed to be from the lost tribes of Israel (hopefully, they are). What wouldn't they rant about. We have over 300 ethnicities in Nigeria, yet they make the loudest noise.

[b]We are all in the entity called Nigeria together. The earlier we join hands to make it work, the better![/b]PS: For those ethnic bashers, I hail from Edo State. Feel free to do your thingy!!

ndu_chucks:

ok, because i no wan read dat book wey i suspect say na revisionist history, I go concede one point. make we assume say the concept of araba don exist well before de 1966 coup.

despite dat asupmtion, de araba wey happen for 1966 na direct reaction to the 1966 coup in my view.  dem go bomb sardauna house for kaduna and sakwato, kill balewa, left igbo leaders alone; shortly thereafter araba start.  

na which other ting you tink say cause that particular araba, if no be de coup?

@naijaking; i no go respond to ya other post, na distraction wey no get use. i know say una no believe in freedom. if i like, my name go be nnamdi. wettin concern una with dat.

naijaking1:



I apologize for the gory example I used to describe your choice of N/L ID, you certainly have a right to answer any name you chose.

okunoba:

@naijaking1
"Araba or secession has been the war cry of Hausa leaders"

The Hausa`s or the Sarduna didn`t go to war because of it, they only voiced their desire 4 it, but Ojukwu went to war at the cost of over 2 million lives. Big difference.

@Uche2nna,
Aburi document is irrelevant in today`s Nigeria. what the country want`s is 4 people to do their job properly, if the state commissioners did their job properly, state governors did their job well, fed ministers did their job well, the president did his job well and the average Nigerian did his job well, the country would be developing, just like India and Brazil.

Aburi as more or less become an obsession 4 some people that want to go back to the Biafran war issues. They can`t let go of the pain of Biafra, rightly so too many lives was lost 4 it too be forgoten in such a short time, but the pain should be used positively 4 Nation building of our young country not to tear it apart like our parents did in the sixties.
Can we not learn from the mistakes of our parents.

okunoba:

The Hausa`s or the Sarduna didn`t go to war because of it, they only voiced their desire 4 it, but Ojukwu went to war at the cost of over 2 million lives. Big difference.

mikeansy:

The gun shuts may have ended in 1970 but you can only read threads like these to know that some Nigerians are still prosecuting their war against the Igbos.

Ojukwu defended Igbos from Ethnic Cleansing and some folks come here to make the point that the fact that he did not make himself available to you guys to cut off his head and keep in your museum as a trophy makes him a coward. Well it has not happened and anybody who does not like it can go hang. Ojukwu will forever remain a legend amongst Igbos regardless of what the same people who were responsible for what Ojukwu stood against thinks.

It is unfortunate that folks who make so much noise about unity can not in the least bit understand how to achieve one, unity can not be achieved on your own terms and conditions alone without any compromise and respect for others. Unfortunately this country will continue to wobble so long as we continue to live in denial of our history.

This is largely responsible for the sorry state we are now in. There is only one victor in this drama the British and their allies in the west.

mikeansy:

The gun shuts may have ended in 1970 but you can only read threads like these to know that some Nigerians are still prosecuting their war against the Igbos.

Ojukwu defended Igbos from Ethnic Cleansing and some folks come here to make the point that the fact that he did not make himself available to you guys to cut off his head and keep in your museum as a trophy makes him a coward. Well it has not happened and anybody who does not like it can go hang. Ojukwu will forever remain a legend amongst Igbos regardless of what the same people who were responsible for what Ojukwu stood against thinks.
It is unfortunate that folks who make so much noise about unity can not in the least bit understand how to achieve one, unity can not be achieved on your own terms and conditions alone without any compromise and respect for others.[i][/i] Unfortunately this country will continue to wobble so long as we continue to live in denial of our history.

This is largely responsible for the sorry state we are now in. There is only one victor in this drama the British and their allies in the west.

okunoba:

The Hausa`s or the Sarduna didn`t go to war because of it, they only voiced their desire 4 it, but Ojukwu went to war at the cost of over 2 million lives. Big difference.

Afam:

The content in bold refers, this is what you get when you allow complete idiots access to online discussion forums.

The poster has clearly proven that he is not at home with the facts of the matter. I won't be surprised if he is one of those that have been fed with all sorts of hate filled lies by their parents from childbirth.

It is one thing to argue with someone who hates you based on real issues but it is entirely another thing to argue with someone that hates you based on the person's foolishness and ignorance.

The poster is a disgrace to not only himself but to his parents and people as well.

na_so:

For the benefit of our readers, dont you think you could have bettered  peoples understanding of the issues then by supplying superior information to counter his claims, rather than this path of insults?  Just my point though.

okunoba:

@naijaking1
"Araba or secession has been the war cry of Hausa leaders"

The Hausa`s or the Sarduna didn`t go to war because of it, they only voiced their desire 4 it, but Ojukwu went to war at the cost of over 2 million lives. Big difference.

Aburi as more or less become an obsession 4 some people that want to go back to the Biafran war issues. They can`t let go of the pain of Biafra, rightly so too many lives was lost 4 it too be forgoten in such a short time, but the pain should be used positively 4 Nation building of our young country not to tear it apart like our parents did in the sixties.
Can we not learn from the mistakes of our parents.

amrerobert:

i have always thought educated persons will face the issues and leave the shadows alone but alas the trend of the contributions on the aburi issue has been anything but encouraging. we have chosen to leave the issues raised at aburi instead we are attacking persons, tribes region etc. these line of action will no get us anywhere but make us treat issues the way we have been treationg them since independence shallowly!!!!!
my dear nairalanders, ojukwu, or the various tribes are not the issues. we should ask ourselves, do we like the way the country has been run? do we need so much power in the center as against the what the aburi accord suggested? do we want a more functional government?
when we are ready to answer this questions the aburi conference document will become a reference point.

okunoba:

@naijaking1
"Araba or secession has been the war cry of Hausa leaders"

The Hausa`s or the Sarduna didn`t go to war because of it, they only voiced their desire 4 it, but Ojukwu went to war at the cost of over 2 million lives. Big difference.

@Uche2nna,
Aburi document is irrelevant in today`s Nigeria. what the country want`s is 4 people to do their job properly, if the state commissioners did their job properly, state governors did their job well, fed ministers did their job well, the president did his job well and the average Nigerian did his job well, the country would be developing, just like India and Brazil.

Aburi as more or less become an obsession 4 some people that want to go back to the Biafran war issues. They can`t let go of the pain of Biafra, rightly so too many lives was lost 4 it too be forgoten in such a short time, but the pain should be used positively 4 Nation building of our young country not to tear it apart like our parents did in the sixties.
Can we not learn from the mistakes of our parents.

gowaga68: Base on one post here i will like to list some states in the south that dont produce any thing to the country's economy like Enugu (coal)no more coal in 9ja,Anambra,Bayelsa Palm Oil (lil quantity).
No State in the North that does not produce at list a lil thing to the Country.
Arewa Gida.

naijaking1:

Araba was used to start the civil war, and it was by the norhterners.

Sir, and you're trying to say that though the north started araba, they didn't go to war over it?

Certainly, you do not sound like someone ready to learn from the mistakes of his parent.

ndu_chucks:

@beaf, i dey happy say mend don take amnesty. make we all hope say, government go fulfil their own pledge. $2billion no be small monet to pump into de area. at least na small step in the right direction.

ndu_chucks:

naijaking, i no dey too comfortable with reopening old wounds. araba or any other violent action against nigerians no dey acceptable under any condition.

isolated violence dey occur from time to time for nigeria, and government dey put am under control and dem no dey let am escalate to war. war and violence na evil tings without doubt.

correct me if i dey wrong, araba wey we dey talk about took place after 1966 coup, and war start only after ojukwu's announcement of secession by the Eastern states of the Nigerian federation was made on May 27 1967.

dat na de real reason wey war take start. if to say ojukwu no declare secession; i no tink say war for start, if aburi fail, dem for find other means to resolve issues. na my opinion be dis one, but i dey open to education and contrary opinion.


@beaf, i dey happy say mend don take amnesty. make we all hope say, government go fulfil their own pledge. $2billion no be small monet to pump into de area. at least na small step in the right direction.

Beaf:


Damn!
Bayelsa and Delta states almost single handedly sustain this country! Bayelsa produces 40% and Delta 30% of crude oil the country feeds on. That should be enough to rubbish your list.

Can a display of ignorance be more plain? I notice this same thing about northerners in general; they all claim their states contribute to the country; only God knows how.