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Russian Options Against A US Attack On Syria by NairaMinted: 11:26pm On Oct 06, 2016
And the slow march towards WWIII continues unabated

[size=18pt]Russian options against a US attack on Syria[/size]


The tensions between Russia and the USA have reached an unprecedented level. I fully agree with the participants of this CrossTalk show – the situation is even worse and more dangerous than during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Both sides are now going to the so-called “Plan B” which, simply put, stand for, at best, no negotiations and, at worst, a war between Russia and the USA.

The key thing to understand in the Russian stance in this, an other, recent conflicts with the USA is that Russia is still much weaker than the USA and that she therefore does not want war. That does not, however, mean that she is not actively preparing for war. In fact, she very much and actively does. All this means is that should a conflict occur, Russia you try, as best can be, to keep it as limited as possible.

In theory, these are, very roughly, the possible levels of confrontation:

A military standoff à la Berlin in 1961. One could argue that this is what is already taking place right now, albeit in a more long-distance and less visible way.
A single military incident, such as what happened recently when Turkey shot down a Russian SU-24 and Russia chose not to retaliate.
A series of localized clashes similar to what is currently happening between India and Pakistan.
A conflict limited to the Syrian theater of war (say like the war between the UK and Argentina over the Malvinas Islands).
A regional or global military confrontation between the USA and Russia.
A full scale thermonuclear war between the USA and Russia

During my years as a student of military strategy I have participated in many exercises on escalation and de-escalation and I can attest that while it is very easy to come up with escalatory scenarios, I have yet to see a credible scenario for de-escalation. What is possible, however, is the so-called “horizontal escalation” or “asymmetrical escalation” in which one side choses not to up the ante or directly escalate, but instead choses a different target for retaliation, not necessarily a more valuable one, just a different one on the same level of conceptual importance (in the USA Joshua M. Epstein and Spencer D. Bakich did most of the groundbreaking work on this topic).

The main reason why we can expect the Kremlin to try to find asymmetrical options to respond to a US attack is that in the Syrian context Russia is hopelessly outgunned by the US/NATO, at least in quantitative terms. The logical solutions for the Russians is to use their qualitative advantage or to seek “horizontal targets” as possible retaliatory options. This week, something very interesting and highly uncharacteristic happened: Major General Igor Konashenkov, the Chief of the Directorate of Media service and Information of the Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation, openly mentioned one such option. Here is what he said:

“As for Kirby’s threats about possible Russian aircraft losses and the sending of Russian servicemen back to Russia in body bags, I would say that we know exactly where and how many “unofficial specialists” operate in Syria and in the Aleppo province and we know that they are involved in the operational planning and that they supervise the operations of the militants. Of course, one can continue to insist that they are unsuccessfully involved in trying to separate the al-Nusra terrorists from the “opposition” forces. But if somebody tries to implement these threats, it is by no means certain that these militants will have to time to get the hell out of there.”


Nice, no? Konashenkov appears to be threatening the “militants” but he is sure to mention that there are plenty of “unofficial specialists” amongst these militants and that Russia knows exactly where they are and how many of them there are. Of course, officially, Obama has declared that there are a few hundred such US special advisors in Syria. A well-informed Russian source suggests that there are up to 5’000 foreign ‘advisors’ to the Takfiris including about 4’000 Americans. I suppose that the truth is somewhere between these two figures.

So the Russian threat is simple: you attack us and we will attack US forces in Syria. Of course, Russia will vehemently deny targeting US servicemen and insist that the strike was only against terrorists, but both sides understand what is happening here. Interestingly, just last week the Iranian Fars news agency reported that such a Russian attack had already happened:

30 Israeli, Foreign Intelligence Officers Killed in Russia’s Caliber Missile Attack in Aleppo:

“The Russian warships fired three Caliber missiles at the foreign officers’ coordination operations room in Dar Ezza region in the Western part of Aleppo near Sam’an mountain, killing 30 Israeli and western officers,” the Arabic-language service of Russia’s Sputnik news agency quoted battlefield source in Aleppo as saying on Wednesday. The operations room was located in the Western part of Aleppo province in the middle of sky-high Sam’an mountain and old caves. The region is deep into a chain of mountains. Several US, Turkish, Saudi, Qatari and British officers were also killed along with the Israeli officers. The foreign officers who were killed in the Aleppo operations room were directing the terrorists’ attacks in Aleppo and Idlib.”

Whether this really happened or whether the Russians are leaking such stories to indicate that this could happen, the fact remains that US forces in Syria could become an obvious target for Russian retaliation, whether by cruise missile, gravity bombs or direct action operation by Russian special forces. The US also has several covert military installations in Syria, including at least one airfield with V-22 Osprey multi-mission tiltrotor aircraft.

Another interesting recent development has been the Fox News report that Russians are deploying S-300V (aka “SA-23 Gladiator anti-missile and anti-aircraft system”) in Syria. Check out this excellent article for a detailed discussion of the capabilities of this missile system. I will summarize it by saying that the S-300V can engage ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, very low RCS (“stealth”) aircraft and AWACS aircraft. This is an Army/Army Corps -level air defense system, well capable of defending most of the Syrian airspace, but also reach well into Turkey, Cyprus, the eastern Mediterranean and Lebanon. The powerful radars of this system could not only detect and engage US aircraft (including “stealth”) at a long distance, but they could also provide a tremendous help for the few Russian air superiority fighters by giving them a clear pictures of the skies and enemy aircraft by using encrypted datalinks. Finally, US air doctrine is extremely dependent on the use of AWACS aircraft to guide and support US fighters. The S-300V will forces US/NATO AWACS to operate at a most uncomfortable distance. Between the longer-range radars of the Russian Sukhois, the radars on the Russian cruisers off the Syrian coast, and the S-300 and S-300V radars on the ground, the Russians will have a much better situational awareness than their US counterparts.

It appears that the Russians are trying hard to compensate for their numerical inferiority by deploying high-end systems for which the US has no real equivalent or good counter-measures.

There are basically two options of deterrence: denial, when you prevent your enemy from hitting his targets and retaliation, when you make the costs of an enemy attack unacceptably high for him. The Russians appear to be pursuing both tracks at the same time. We can thus summarize the Russian approach as such

Delay a confrontation as much as possible (buy time).
Try to keep any confrontation at the lowest possible escalatory level.
If possible, reply with asymmetrical/horizontal escalations.
Rather then “prevail” against the US/NATO – make the costs of attack too high.
Try to put pressure on US “allies” in order to create tensions inside the Empire.
Try to paralyze the USA on a political level by making the political costs of an attack too high-end.
Try to gradually create the conditions on the ground (Aleppo) to make a US attack futile

To those raised on Hollywood movies and who still watch TV, this kind of strategy will elicit only frustration and condemnation. There are millions of armchair strategists who are sure that they could do a much better job than Putin to counter the US Empire. These folks have now been telling us for *years* that Putin “sold out” the Syrians (and the Novorussians) and that the Russians ought to do X, Y and Z to defeat the AngloZionist Empire. The good news is that none of these armchair strategists sit in the Kremlin and that the Russians have stuck to their strategy over the past years, one day at a time, even when criticized by those who want quick and “easy” solutions. But the main good news is that the Russian strategy is working. Not only is the Nazi-occupied Ukraine quite literally falling apart, but the US has basically run out of options in Syria (see ]url=http://theduran.com/russia-sends-s300-advanced-missile-system-to-syria-us-runs-out-of-options/]this excellent analysis[/url] by my friend Alexander Mercouris in the Duran).

The only remaining logical steps left for the USA in Syria is to accept Russia’s terms or leave. The problem is that I am not at all convinced that the Neocons, who run the White House, Congress and the US corporate media, are “rational” at all. This is why the Russians employed so many delaying tactics and why they have acted with such utmost caution: they are dealing with professional incompetent ideologues who simply do not play by the unwritten but clear rules of civilized international relations. This is what makes the current crisis so much worse than even the Cuban Missile Crisis: one superpower has clearly gone insane.

Are the Americans crazy enough to risk WWIII over Aleppo?

Maybe, maybe not. But what if we rephrase that question and ask

Are the Americans crazy enough to risk WWIII to maintain their status as the “world’s indispensable nation”, the “leader of the free world”, the “city on the hill” and all the rest of this imperialistic nonsense?

Here I would submit that yes, they potentially are.

After all, the Neocons are correct when they sense that if Russia gets away with openly defying and defeating the USA in Syria, nobody will take the AngloZionists very seriously any more.

How do you think the Neocons think when they see the President of the Philippines publicly calling Obama a “son of a wh*re” and then tells the EU to go and “f*ck itself”?

Of course, the Neocons can still find some solace in the abject subservience of the European political elites, but still – they know that he writing is on the wall and that their Empire is rapidly crumbling, not only in Syria, the Ukraine or Asia, but even inside the USA. The biggest danger here is that the Neocons might try to rally the nation around the flag, either by staging yet another false flag or by triggering a real international crisis.

At this point in time all we can do is wait and hope that there is enough resistance inside the US government to prevent a US attack on Syria before the next Administration comes in. And while I am no supporter of Trump, I would agree that Hillary and her evil cabal of russophobic Neocons is so bad that Trump does give me some hope, at least in comparison to Hillary.

So if Trump wins, then Russia’s strategy will be basically justified. Once Trump is on the White House, there is at least the possibility of a comprehensive redefinition of US-Russian relations which would, of course, begin with a de-escalation in Syria: while Obama/Hillary categorically refuse to get rid of Daesh (by that I mean al-Nusra, al-Qaeda, and all their various denominations), Trump appears to be determined to seriously fight them, even if that means that Assad stays in power. There is most definitely a basis for dialog here. If Hillary comes in, then the Russians will have to make an absolutely crucial call: how important is Syria in the context of their goal to re-sovereignize Russia and to bring down the AngloZionist Empire? Another way of formulating the same question is “would Russia prefer a confrontation with the Empire in Syria or in the Ukraine?”.

One way to gauge the mood in Russia is to look at the language of a recent law proposed by President Putin and adopted by the Duma which dealt with the issue of the Russia-US Plutonium Management and Disposition Agreement (PMDA) which, yet again, saw the US yet again fail to deliver on their obligations and which Russia has now suspended. What is interesting, is the language chosen by the Russians to list the conditions under which they would resume their participation in this agreement and, basically, agree to resume any kind of arms negotiations:

A reduction of military infrastructure and the number of the US troops stationed on the territory of NATO member states that joined the alliance after September 1, 2000, to the levels at which they were when the original agreement first entered into force.
The abandonment of the hostile policy of the US towards Russia, which should be carried out with the abolition of the Magnitsky Act of 2012 and the conditions of the Ukraine Freedom Support Act of 2014, which were directed against Russia.
The abolition of all sanctions imposed by the US on certain subjects of the Russian Federation, Russian individuals and legal entities.
The compensation for all the damages suffered by Russia as a result of the imposition of sanctions.
The US is also required to submit a clear plan for irreversible plutonium disposition covered by the PMDA.
Now the Russians are not delusional. They know full well that the USA will never accept such terms. So what is this really all about? It is a diplomatic but unambiguous way to tell the USA the exact same thing which Philippine President Duterte (and Victoria Nuland) told the EU.

The Americans better start paying attention.

The Saker

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Re: Russian Options Against A US Attack On Syria by NairaMinted: 11:46pm On Oct 06, 2016
"Everything we read about Syria in the US media is wrong. The reality is that the U.S. government is supporting armed extremist groups who are terrorizing the Syrian people and trying to destroy Syria’s secular state. In order to hide that ugly reality and push violent regime change the U.S. is conducting a psychological warfare campaign to demonize Syria’s president, Bashar al Assad. This is a classic tactic that veterans have seen over and over. It is shocking, however, to realize how willingly the media repeat this propaganda, and how many people believe it to be true.”

Those were the words of the Vice President of Veterans for Peace, Jerry Condon.
Veterans for Peace, one of the most influential and respected peace organisations, has recently sharpened its understanding and position following a visit to Syria.



A LOOK AT THE GENESIS OF THE SYRIAN WAR AND HOW THE US CONSPIRED TO DESTROY SYRIA:

The CIA as far back as 2007 (possibly earlier) had plotted to overthrow the legitimate, secular and stable government of Syria and there are several articles and events foretelling the chaos that has befallen Syria today.

Exhibit A:

The re-direction by multiple Pulitzer award winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh, New Yorker 2007:

"To undermine Iran, which is predominantly Shiite, the Bush Administration has decided, in effect, to reconfigure its priorities in the Middle East. In Lebanon, the Administration has coöperated with Saudi Arabia’s government, which is Sunni, in clandestine operations that are intended to weaken Hezbollah, the Shiite organization that is backed by Iran. The U.S. has also taken part in clandestine operations aimed at Iran and its ally Syria. A by-product of these activities has been the bolstering of Sunni extremist groups that espouse a militant vision of Islam and are hostile to America and sympathetic to Al Qaeda."

Exhibit B:

Brookings Institution 2015, Deconstructing Syria

"Counterintuitively, at this stage, the only realistic path forward may be a plan that in effect deconstructs Syria. A comprehensive, national-level solution is too hard even to specify at this stage, much less effect. Instead, the international community should work to create pockets with more viable security and governance within Syria over time. With initial footholds in place, the strategy could develop further in a type of “ink-spot” campaign that eventually sought to join the various local initiatives into a broader and more integrated effort."

Gee, really hard to see who is intentionally destroying Syria with terrorists and seeking to create an even bigger mess before it is all said and done. Not to mention the fact that the US JUST DESTROYED LIBYA.

Syrians aren't killing each other - terrorist death squads gathered from the four corners of the globe including the Uyghurs NATO was trafficking through Thailand are being armed and sent in. That is by definition AN INVASION.

Exhibit C:

Newly-Declassified U.S. Government Documents: The West Supported the Creation of ISIS


Exhibit D:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojcoKnTGf4s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMJON4y_jac
Wesley Clark ( US 4 Star General ) US will attack 7 countries in 5 years.

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Re: Russian Options Against A US Attack On Syria by whitebeard(m): 11:59pm On Oct 06, 2016
cool
Op next time don't say USA is powerful than Russia..

*NATO/UN is powerful than Russia* that's the correct stuff..

If u want prove go and research on the weapon called "Satan"

Op u try seriously..!! I have always know the Americans are

The sponsors.. It is not a new thing..see what they did to

Libya..they wanna do the same to Syria..! I hope Nigeria is

Not One of those countries they want to attack

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Re: Russian Options Against A US Attack On Syria by Lucasbalo(m): 4:08am On Oct 07, 2016
NairaMinted:
"Everything we read about Syria in the US media is wrong. The reality is that the U.S. government is supporting armed extremist groups who are terrorizing the Syrian people and trying to destroy Syria’s secular state. In order to hide that ugly reality and push violent regime change the U.S. is conducting a psychological warfare campaign to demonize Syria’s president, Bashar al Assad. This is a classic tactic that veterans have seen over and over. It is shocking, however, to realize how willingly the media repeat this propaganda, and how many people believe it to be true.”

Those were the words of the Vice President of Veterans for Peace, Jerry Condon.
Veterans for Peace, one of the most influential and respected peace organisations, has recently sharpened its understanding and position following a visit to Syria.



A LOOK AT THE GENESIS OF THE SYRIAN WAR AND HOW THE US CONSPIRED TO DESTROY SYRIA:

The CIA as far back as 2007 (possibly earlier) had plotted to overthrow the legitimate, secular and stable government of Syria and there are several articles and events foretelling the chaos that has befallen Syria today.

Exhibit A:

The re-direction by multiple Pulitzer award winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh, New Yorker 2007:

"To undermine Iran, which is predominantly Shiite, the Bush Administration has decided, in effect, to reconfigure its priorities in the Middle East. In Lebanon, the Administration has coöperated with Saudi Arabia’s government, which is Sunni, in clandestine operations that are intended to weaken Hezbollah, the Shiite organization that is backed by Iran. The U.S. has also taken part in clandestine operations aimed at Iran and its ally Syria. A by-product of these activities has been the bolstering of Sunni extremist groups that espouse a militant vision of Islam and are hostile to America and sympathetic to Al Qaeda."

Exhibit B:

Brookings Institution 2015, Deconstructing Syria

"Counterintuitively, at this stage, the only realistic path forward may be a plan that in effect deconstructs Syria. A comprehensive, national-level solution is too hard even to specify at this stage, much less effect. Instead, the international community should work to create pockets with more viable security and governance within Syria over time. With initial footholds in place, the strategy could develop further in a type of “ink-spot” campaign that eventually sought to join the various local initiatives into a broader and more integrated effort."

Gee, really hard to see who is intentionally destroying Syria with terrorists and seeking to create an even bigger mess before it is all said and done. Not to mention the fact that the US JUST DESTROYED LIBYA.

Syrians aren't killing each other - terrorist death squads gathered from the four corners of the globe including the Uyghurs NATO was trafficking through Thailand are being armed and sent in. That is by definition AN INVASION.

Exhibit C:

Newly-Declassified U.S. Government Documents: The West Supported the Creation of ISIS


Exhibit D:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojcoKnTGf4s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMJON4y_jac
Wesley Clark ( US 4 Star General ) US will attack 7 countries in 5 years.
You Russian heads, keep googling and we will be laughing all the way to the banks.
Re: Russian Options Against A US Attack On Syria by NairaMinted2: 9:56am On Oct 07, 2016
LET'S SEE WHAT BRAVE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, LEADERS, POLITICAL ANALYSTS & EVEN PUBLIC PERSONALITIES ARE SAYING ABOUT THE DESTABILIZING ACTIONS OF THE US & IT'S ALLIES



Oct 20, 2015: Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard (US Congresswoman & Marine Corps vet, Hawaii). Gabbard pointed out the unconstitutionality of the war against al-Assad and accused the CIA of arming Islamists in a “counterproductive” and “illegal” effort that will cause even more human misery in the region and help ISIS and other Islamist extremists take over all of Syria. Instead of once again being distracted by trying to get rid of a secular dictator, Tulsi explains, the US must stay out of counter productive wars and focus on defeating the Islamist extremists who have declared war on America.


Here is the YouTube video of that interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7Q8X60KQ9Q



Nov. 21, 2015, in Paris soon after the terrorist attacks, the US Congresswoman continued to criticize the illegal effort to overthrow the Syrian government. She was interviewed twice by CNN; in the afternoon and at night on the same day



2 Dec 2015 Capitol Hill, Washington: Interviewed by Wolf Blitzer on CNN yesterday, U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard clearly explained how the U.S. fixation on overthrowing Syrian President Bashir al-Assad is putting us in direct conflict with Russia which has been an ally of Assad’s for 40 years.

Tulsi asks: What is so important about overthrowing the Syrian government of Assad that justifies risking a nuclear war with Russia? Tulsi argues the U.S. must end its illegal war to overthrow the government of Assad and instead focus on defeating ISIS and other Islamic extremists who are waging war against the West. She cites recent history of Libya when the United States overthrew Gaddafi and now we have ISIS with headquarters in Libya, continuing to expand. The very same thing will happen in Syria if the United States is successful in its objective of overthrowing the Syrian government of Assad. ISIS will walk in the front door, take over all of Syria and pose that very direct and greater threat to the region and increase the humanitarian crisis there ten-fold.



Dec 18, 2015 Rep.Gabbard Explains Why “No Fly Zone” Over Syria Would be Disastrous
Interviewed by Wolf Blitzer on CNN today, Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard explained that creation of a “No Fly Zone” over Syria—which Hillary Clinton, Chris Christie, and other presidential candidates support--would risk war with Russia that could “easily escalate” into a world war with nuclear potential. Tulsi said the candidates’ support of such a “No Fly Zone”—which President Obama opposes—is another reason to end the war to overthrow the Syrian government of Assad now before Obama leaves office.



24 Jun 2016. 10 min. Extract from Rep Tulsi Gabbard's (US Congresswoman & Marine Corps vet, Hawaii) speech at People’s Summit)

Rep Gabbard says: 'Let leaders in Washington know that we must stop wasting our valuable, limited resources on regime change wars such as the war to overthrow the Syrian government, and instead focus our resources on investing in and rebuilding our nation and communities here at home. We simply cannot afford to do both.'



US effectively siding with Al-Qaeda in desire to get rid of Assad – former UK ambassador to Syria

Published: 7 Jun 2016 | 03:37 GMT
US effectively siding with Al-Qaeda in desire to get rid of Assad – former UK ambassador to Syria

The US is “ready to de facto ally” with its archenemies from Al-Qaeda’s branch in Syria as part of its “obsession” by using “so-called moderate” moderate groups to overthrow the Syrian government, former UK ambassador to Syria, Peter Ford, told RT in an exclusive interview.

The US “is effectively siding with a branch of Al-Qaeda” in Syria, Peter Ford told RT, speaking of Washington’s recent request to Moscow not to target Al-Nusra positions with air strikes for the sake of moderate opposition groups located in the same area.



So far in this war we have funneled weapons to terrorists, armed multiple sides and generally acted as if we don’t have a clue what to do in the region -- and we’ve done it all unconstitutionally - Senator Rand Paul



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc-RmAVK8Pg
Must see video: US Peace Council returns from Syria, a country fighting “invasion by the most powerful country in the world”




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LutrvgnHErE

Marine Le Pen blasts EU leaders, “You’ve done everything to bring down the government of Syria!”




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeyRwFHR8WY
Apart from bombing the crap out of #Libya via #NATO the British planned the war with Syria in 2009 2 yrs before the "Arab Spring" using “moderate” terrorists. Think Al Qaeda aka “The Database.”
In a live TV interview the Ex French Foreign Minister, Roland Dumas, reveals all:



Philippine president blames U.S. for Middle East violence




Former CIA counterterrorism officer and Senate Foreign Relations Committee senior investigator John Kiriakou said that US congress armed the Islamic State (ISIL) extremists by providing weapons to the "moderate" opposition.
Re: Russian Options Against A US Attack On Syria by NairaMinted2: 10:06am On Oct 07, 2016
Lucasbalo:
You Russian heads, keep googling and we will be laughing all the way to the banks.

I am praying that that inferiority complex and feeling of inadequacy that is bedeviling you, compelling you to inform everyone at every turn how you are "laughing all the way to the banks" or "living large", etc is exorcised from you one day.

Amen!

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Re: Russian Options Against A US Attack On Syria by NairaMinted2: 10:51am On Oct 07, 2016
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT HOW THE US HAS DIRECTLY (AND INDIRECTLY) FINANCED, AIDED & ABETTED ITS TERROR PROXY ARMIES USING THE MYTHICAL & NONEXISTENT "MODERATE" FREE SYRIA ARMY AS COVER TO SUPPORT JIHADISTS SUCH AS AL-NUSRA, AHRAR AL-SHAM & ISIS WHICH REMAIN THE TRUE & FORMIDABLE ANTI-ASSAD FIGHTING FORCES

Ever wondered how those shiny new Toyota trucks, highly trained men, American made TOW missiles and other fancy weapons are available to these terror groups fighting in Syria? Ever had difficulty keeping up with the ever changing myriad of US supported "moderate" rebels fighting in Syria - from the FSA, Division 30 to the Syrian Revolutionaries Front to Ahrar Al-Sham to Al-Zenki to Harakat Hazm, etc and as to if these groups really do exist and what their capabilities are?

In May 2015, the Wall Street Journal reported that One U.S.-Backed Rebel Group, the Syrian Revolutionaries Front Cooperates With Al-Qaeda in Syria

In July 2015 Al Jazeera reported an ISIS leader as saying he purchases weapons from the FSA.

[url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/43-un-peacekeepers-abducted-in-golan-heights/2014/08/28/2c968976-7d90-48d6-b5ef-354f349a6e18_story.html?Post%20generic=%3Ftid%3Dsm_twitter_washingtonpost]In August 2014 The Washington Post said al-Nusra worked with unnamed CIA-backed rebel groups to capture the Quneitra border crossing with Israel and abduct a large number of Fijian peacekeepers.[/url]




Who is Behind the Islamic State? US Media (Times) Admits ISIS Bringing Arms, Fighters in From NATO Territory
"attacks also came after the group [ISIS] suffered a series of setbacks over the past two weeks, including the loss last week of the Syrian border town of Tal Abyad — one of the group’s main points for bringing in foreign fighters and supplies."


The terrorists fighting us now? We just finished training them/


September 2014, Harakat Hazm, another US backed so-called "moderate" group reportedly fought alongside al-Qaeda in Aleppo, according to The Los Angeles Times.



In the same month of September, the Syrian Revolutionaries Front declared a peace truce with the Islamic State and the following month SRF members defected to ISIS.



In November 2014, a number of FSA members also defected to the Islamic State and condemned US airstrikes.



In December a German journalist embedded with the Islamic State told France 24 the group receives U.S. arms from the FSA.



Also in December, The New York Times admitted the FSA is under the control of ISIS.



In April 2015, Reuters reported the U.S.-armed FSA is allied with al-Nusra in northern Syria.



Here's a look on how the US relies on Saudi money to finance is terror proxy armies



Here's a look on how the US relies on Saudi money to finance is terror proxy armies


Four Years Later, The Free Syrian Army Has Collapsed



Free Syrian Army decimated by desertions




In July 2016, members of the Nureddin al-Zenki rebel group, one of the myriad of "moderate" terrorists that the US supports and that at one point received US-made anti-tank missiles, callously beheaded a 12 year old boy on the back of a pick-up truck on a public road in Aleppo’s opposition-controlled Al-Mashhad neighbourhood. Read this story here and read the US State Department spokesman trying to explain the actions of their beloved "moderates" as these "moderates" claim it was a mistake here





Americans are on our side’: Al-Nusra commander says US arming jihadists via 3rd countries
As reported in a German newspaper in October 2016, from an interview with Jabhat al-Nusra’s commander that was taken at a stone quarry in Aleppo on September 17 by Koelner Stadt-Anzeiger journalist Jurgen Todenhofer on his seventh trip to war-torn Syria

Al Ezz said that Jabhat Al-Nusra “won battles thanks to TOW rockets. Due to these rockets, we reached a balance with the regime. Our tanks came from Libya via Turkey, joined by the [BM-21] multiple rocket launchers,” he said.
The government forces have an advantage because of aircraft and missile launchers, but “we have the American-made TOW missiles, and the situation in some areas is under control,” Al Ezz added.

When asked if the TOW missiles were initially intended for Jabhat Al-Nusra or if the group obtained them from the moderate Free Syrian Army, the jihadist clarified: “No, the missiles were given to us directly.”



See further evidence of the mess the US has caused in Syria: US troops 'forced to flee Syrian town' after FSA rebel threats:

U.S. forces enter Syrian town, then withdraw: rebel source and monitor
American commandos 'forced to run away' from US-backed Syrian rebels


MORE:



UN Report: Israel in Regular Contact with Syrian Rebels including ISIS



UN details Israel helping Syrian rebels at Golan Heights



Israeli Intel Chief: We Don’t Want ISIS Defeated in Syria

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Re: Russian Options Against A US Attack On Syria by Lucasbalo(m): 2:27pm On Oct 07, 2016
NairaMinted2:


I am praying that that inferiority complex and feeling of inadequacy that is bedeviling you, compelling you to inform everyone at every turn how you are "laughing all the way to the banks" or "living large", etc is exorcised from you one day.

Amen!
PovertyMinted, like I said, keep googling your life away about things that are not useful to your well being. You are stucked on stupid wasting your life away. The Google you are so much in love with is an American invention not Russian. You and your ilks have no original thoughts and no critical thinking on your part. You country is sinking and you are foaming in the mouth about a country thousands of miles away. Keep googling as if that will solve your hardship in life while Google investors and shareholders are smiling to the bank. You can choke on that Povertybrain.
Re: Russian Options Against A US Attack On Syria by NairaMinted2: 5:13pm On Oct 07, 2016
Lucasbalo:
PovertyMinted, like I said, keep googling your life away about things that are not useful to your well being. You are stucked on stupid wasting your life away. The Google you are so much in love with is an American invention not Russian. You and your ilks have no original thoughts and no critical thinking on your part. You country is sinking and you are foaming in the mouth about a country thousands of miles away. Keep googling as if that will solve your hardship in life while Google investors and shareholders are smiling to the bank. You can choke on that Povertybrain.

Oh my infantile Lucas!

So I take it that you DO NOT have any intellectual or discernible answers or explanation to these revelations and facts other than the usual "sh*thole country you reside in", "Amerikan visa that you want", " many Nigerians are queued up at the Amerikan embassy", "you live in poverty", "I'm smiling to the bank" and "keep googling" balderdash that comes outta your mouth?

You will be in the country this December right? Pls drop me a note and let's meet up so that you can at least see what I look like and how I live. Ok? It will be the perfect opportunity to show everyone on Nairaland how I'm wallowing in abject poverty and how you are living large. Deal?

I'll also be in Amerika this coming February/March. I got relatives in Chicago as well. I would like to see this "smiling to the bank" in action.

By the way, what can we do but to thank Amerika for Google so that we can share all these things we share, right?

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Re: Russian Options Against A US Attack On Syria by Lucasbalo(m): 6:00pm On Oct 07, 2016
NairaMinted2:


Oh my infantile Lucas!

So I take it that you DO NOT have any intellectual or discernible answers or explanation to these revelations and facts other than the usual "sh*thole country you reside in", "Amerikan visa that you want", " many Nigerians are queued up at the Amerikan embassy", "you live in poverty", "I'm smiling to the bank" and "keep googling" balderdash that comes outta your mouth?

You will be in the country this December right? Pls drop me a note and let's meet up so that you can at least see what I look like and how I live. Ok? It will be the perfect opportunity to show everyone on Nairaland how I'm wallowing in abject poverty and how you are living large. Deal?

I'll also be in Amerika this coming February/March. I got relatives in Chicago as well. I would like to see this "smiling to the bank" in action.

By the way, what can we do but to thank Amerika for Google so that we can share all these things we share, right?

Would love to meet you in Nigeria and when you get to Chicago since you have family members in Chicago. Will be in Lagos in December and I will Holla at you if you don't chicken out like your Ijebu friend. Hope that's a deal. Would love to see the face behind all the junks you posted. Deal is a deal. By the way, don't thank America for Google , thank Putin and Russia. On the side note, you said you will be in Chicago in Feb/ March. Make sure you are well suited for cold. Chicago is bitterly cold that time of the year and I hope you are ready for that. Just trying to be nice to you since I get on your case sometimes.
Re: Russian Options Against A US Attack On Syria by CSTR2: 8:26pm On Oct 07, 2016
whitebeard:
cool
Op next time don't say USA is powerful than Russia..

*NATO/UN is powerful than Russia* that's the correct stuff..

If u want prove go and research on the weapon called "Satan"

Op u try seriously..!! I have always know the Americans are

The sponsors.. It is not a new thing..see what they did to

Libya..they wanna do the same to Syria..! I hope Nigeria is

Not One of those countries they want to attack
This is what putin your master says
http://www.businessinsider.com/r-putin-says-accepts-us-is-sole-superpower-dilutes-trump-praise-2016-6

Btw, the main reason why NATO is feared is because of America. Its real deterrence is America. That is why Russia could not strike back at turkey like it would have if it were Ukraine that shot those Russian jets.
NATO is America, America is NATO. Without America, NATO becomes a sitting duck.
So yes, America is far stronger than Russia.

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Re: Russian Options Against A US Attack On Syria by whitebeard(m): 7:55am On Oct 08, 2016
CSTR2:

This is what putin your master says
http://www.businessinsider.com/r-putin-says-accepts-us-is-sole-superpower-dilutes-trump-praise-2016-6

Btw, the main reason why NATO is feared is because of America. Its real deterrence is America. That is why Russia could not strike back at turkey like it would have if it were Ukraine that shot those Russian jets.
NATO is America, America is NATO. Without America, NATO becomes a sitting duck.
So yes, America is far stronger than Russia.
Putin is not my master, I support Russia because they were the only ones that listened to us when we needed help against BH..I have watched many documentaries..I have compared Russian tanks to american tanks..american does not have powerful tanks they only have large numbers of jets...let's not even go to Japan...japan since wwII vowed not to sell any of their tanks...just Japanese made (type 10) and Russian made (armata) is enough to destroy any amount of Abrams (american tanks) that america bring to the field.. Yeah if america was stronger than Russia would their have been a Cuban missile crisis..it just words...I can even tell u Japanese has more powerful tanks than any other country...it just words..everything is political...!!!
Re: Russian Options Against A US Attack On Syria by Nobody: 5:33pm On Oct 09, 2016
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