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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by mustymatic(m): 3:17pm On Oct 14, 2016
jnrbayano:


Both.

He is God the son and Son of God.
Can you please quote where he said he is God?
Then we know you follow him

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by Anas09: 4:36pm On Oct 14, 2016
minifuworld:
so pls what are the teachings of jesus christ?
See? You know norhing about Jesus you claim to love.

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by Anas09: 4:38pm On Oct 14, 2016
Seun:
Muslims believe that Jesus didn't die on the cross because someone else took his place. They love him as a prophet of Islam. They believe that his message was Islamic but it has been corrupted by Christians. On this basis, a Muslim can claim to love Jesus.
But that is false nah. Btw, which message did Jesus give to the muslims?

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by Anas09: 4:44pm On Oct 14, 2016
jnrbayano:


Are you a Muslim?

Stand aside...
Technically, Yes he is.

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by Anas09: 4:57pm On Oct 14, 2016
mustymatic:

Can you please quote where he said he is God?
Then we know you follow him

Amplified Bible John 10:30 I and the Father are One.

What does that mean to you?

Can you tell me why allah snatched Jesus from the Jews and prevented them from killing him?

If you are sincere, you'd find yourself with the answer which was the reason for which the Jews wanted Jesus dead in the first place.

Till today, Islam can't tell us why allah saved Jesus.
The Jews wanted Jesus dead because Jesus claimed he is the Son of God. The Jews umderstood exactly what Christ was saying, for that, they moved to kill him (they knew that, the son of a goat is a goat, so if Jesus says God was his father, He then was invariably saying he was God) then your glorious allah came to his rescue.

Guy, stick to Islam, Christianity ia too hard for your head.

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by Auki: 5:41pm On Oct 14, 2016
The Jesus (peace be on him), I know, whom I love as a Muslim, came to confirm a simple message-No brain gymnastic.

1.There is only ONE God, whom all depend. He begets not, nor is He begotten; And none is like Him.

2.He Jesus (peace be on him), like all messengers, was a prophet send only to convey the message of glad tiding to believers and warning of dire punishment to unbelievers. He never ascribe any divinity to himself, as either GOD, Son or operating partnership with God( trinity).

Later scribe exaggerated and invented Jesus divinity. Do your research it is actually worth doing.

Peace be on you(the reader)
[b][/b]

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by ayobase: 6:44pm On Oct 14, 2016
For all my muslim friends on here, please bear with me as I unleash some Biblical proofs over some issues:

At least you accept the fact that Jesus Christ came into this world via a virgin Mary which makes a unique being among Prophets.

Can I say He was conceived without sin.

Sonship.

There in the Bible;

Matthew 3:17 says "And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."

Mark: 1:11 says "And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."

Mark: 9:7 says "And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him."

Luke: 3:22. says "And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased."


Those are 3 of the 12 disciples of Jesus Christ giving accounts of what seen and heard while with Jesus Christ - more like news casting.



Tell me you don't believe in those.

Now the Jesus you believe in said this, coupled with written occurences by observers;

John: 10. 30. I and my Father are one.

John: 14. 20. At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

Matthew: 7. 21. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew: 10. 33. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew: 24. 36. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

John: 5. 43. I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

And many many more verses to establish fathership and sonship.

My question - why do you find it difficult to accept God calling Jesus Christ His son?

I learnt Mohammed was the Holy Spirit (Comforter) Jesus Christ said He will srnd while ascending into heaven.

John: 14. 26. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

With sound mind and logical reasoning, how can Muhammad of all Prophets with many scandals be the comforter!

Muhammed did not get an inch close to Jesus Christ to being a Comforter, let alone of being one himself.

Muhammed is con artist, he had ideas of the Bible which he was able to pick and manipulate verses to suit himself. We now have the Sunnis and Shites a result of his unresurrecting death.

Jesus Christ performed miracles while on earth coupled with His merciful disposition.

Muhammed is not close to being Comforter - that hooligan is far away from it.



Until you tell me the Bible has been compromised long before now, then those quoted verses remain valid.

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by ayobase: 6:59pm On Oct 14, 2016
Auki:
The Jesus (peace be on him), I know, whom I love as a Muslim, came to confirm a simple message-No brain gymnastic.

1.There is only ONE God, whom all depend. He begets not, nor is He begotten; And none is like Him.

2.He Jesus (peace be on him), like all messengers, was a prophet send only to convey the message of glad tiding to believers and warning of dire punishment to unbelievers. He never ascribe any divinity to himself, as either GOD, Son or operating partnership with God( trinity).

Later scribe exaggerated and invented Jesus divinity. Do your research it is actually worth doing.

Peace be on you(the reader)
[b][/b]



If God the creator of creatures can improvise
methods of reproduction (sexual and asexual) for his creatures, how dare we question him for having a son.

Or you think sey na only by involvement of Pen1s and vag1na?

Even, some are called son by adoption in our society.

God is omnipotent and omniscient. A creature of him like you wouldn't question or study the works of His hands. He is "awamaridi" - the "unsearchable".

I am also son of God.

What about that.


Do you believe Jesus resurrected on the 3rd and ascended into heaven?

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by minifuworld: 10:43pm On Oct 14, 2016
analice107:


Okay, who is your neighbour?
why did you ignore verse 29 and 30 Wch is the most important?
Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by minifuworld: 11:32pm On Oct 14, 2016
Anas09:

See? You know norhing about Jesus you claim to love.
pls what kind of knowing are you talking about? If its how powerful and mighty jesus christ is we muslims know better than you. just let me give you one of his mighty work that God reveal to prophet muhammed (s.a.w) in the holy quran. In quran 19. V 27 Then she brought him to her own folk, carrying him. They said: O Mary! Thou hast come with an amazing thing. 28. O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a wicked man nor was thy mother a harlot. 29. Then she pointed to him. They said: How can we talk to one who is in the cradle, a young boy? 30. He spake: Lo! I am the slave of Allah. He hath given me the Scripture and hath appointed me a Prophet,
31. And hath made me blessed wheresoever
I may be, and hath enjoined upon me prayer and almsgiving so long as I remain alive. 32.And (hath made me) dutiful toward her
who bore me, and hath not made me arrogant, unblest. 33. Peace on me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I shall be raised alive! Can you see Jesus spoke in his infancy in the Quran and honestly there is no part of the that talk about this.

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by Anas09: 11:47pm On Oct 14, 2016
minifuworld:
pls what kind of knowing are you talking about? If its how powerful and mighty jesus christ is we muslims know better than you. just let me give you one of his mighty work that God reveal to prophet muhammed (s.a.w) in the holy quran. In quran 19. V 27 Then she brought him to her own folk, carrying him. They said: O Mary! Thou hast come with an amazing thing. 28. O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a wicked man nor was thy mother a harlot. 29. Then she pointed to him. They said: How can we talk to one who is in the cradle, a young boy? 30. He spake: Lo! I am the slave of Allah. He hath given me the Scripture and hath appointed me a Prophet,
31. And hath made me blessed wheresoever
I may be, and hath enjoined upon me prayer and almsgiving so long as I remain alive. 32.And (hath made me) dutiful toward her
who bore me, and hath not made me arrogant, unblest. 33. Peace on me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I shall be raised alive! Can you see Jesus spoke in his infancy in the Quran and honestly there is no part of the that talk about this.
HahahahahahahahahHHHHhA, yesssss. I see Jesus speaking on his cradle on the day he was born. Kwakwakwakwakwakwakwa. My beleoooo.

Wait, wait, wait. Is it that wen u become a muslim, ur brain dies or what?
U truelly believe Jesus spoke on the day he was born?

There's another wonderful, oh powerful thing i saw there.
Mary the mother of Jesus Christ, was the same person as Mirriam the Sister of Aaron. Hahahahahahahahahaha
Lwkmdoooooo

Muhammed was a stupid daft and those who patronised him were too afraid to correct his stupidity.

And you, you bounced out here without shame to post this trash?
Do u even realize what this makes you look like? Worst than stupid muhammed. At least he was an illiterate, so can excuse his blind plagiarism, but you? In the 21st Century? Am ashamed of you.

Do you know the generations that spans between Mirriam and Mary mother of Jesus?

Everything the stupid koran says you just believe without even considering the absurdity.
Gerarahia.

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by minifuworld: 11:51pm On Oct 14, 2016
Scholar8200:
Is this the Injil then? John the Baptist preached same before Jesus what then?
Who said this:
28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Matthew 26:28
What is the difference between the Law and the Injil.
that is why i said all the prophets of God come for thesame purpose and that is know your God as one, worship Him and do good. And as for matthew 26:28 honestly you guys dont even understand the bible, pls kindly read from verse 26-29 maybe you will understand the message.

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by minifuworld: 12:02am On Oct 15, 2016
Anas09:

HahahahahahahahahHHHHhA, yesssss. I see Jesus speaking on his cradle on the day he was born. Kwakwakwakwakwakwakwa. My beleoooo.

Wait, wait, wait. Is it that wen u become a muslim, ur brain dies or what?
U truelly believe Jesus spoke on the day he was born?

There's another wonderful, oh powerful thing i saw there.
Mary the mother of Jesus Christ, was the same person as Mirriam the Sister of Aaron. Hahahahahahahahahaha
Lwkmdoooooo

Muhammed was a stupid daft and those who patronised him were too afraid to correct his stupidity.

And you, you bounced out here without shame to post this trash?
Do u even realize what this makes you look like? Worst than stupid muhammed. At least he was an illiterate, so can excuse his blind plagiarism, but you? In the 21st Century? Am ashamed of you.

Do you know the generations that spans between Mirriam and Mary mother of Jesus?

Everything the stupid koran says you just believe without even considering the absurdity.
Gerarahia.
i dont know that am discusing with antichrist all these while

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by Demmzy15(m): 12:31am On Oct 15, 2016
minifuworld:
i dont know that am discusing with antichrist all these while
Ignore the troll, she'll just waste your time!

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by mustymatic(m): 12:55am On Oct 15, 2016
Anas09:


Amplified Bible John 10:30 I and the Father are One.

What does that mean to you?

Can you tell me why allah snatched Jesus from the Jews and prevented them from killing him?

If you are sincere, you'd find yourself with the answer which was the reason for which the Jews wanted Jesus dead in the first place.

Till today, Islam can't tell us why allah saved Jesus.
The Jews wanted Jesus dead because Jesus claimed he is the Son of God. The Jews umderstood exactly what Christ was saying, for that, they moved to kill him (they knew that, the son of a goat is a goat, so if Jesus says God was his father, He then was invariably saying he was God) then your glorious allah came to his rescue.

Guy, stick to Islam, Christianity ia too hard for your head.
[b]
Jesus rebuts the false charge of his enemies that he was ambiguous in his claims to being the Messiah that they were waiting for. He says that he did tell them clearly enough, yet they would not listen to him,

25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and you believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man PLUCK THEM OUT OF MY HAND.
29 My Father which gave them me, is greater than all, and no man is able to PLUCK THEM OUT OF MY FATHER'S HAND.

How can anyone be so blind as not to see the exactness of the ending of the last two verses. But spiritual blinkers are more impervious than physical
defects. He is telling the Jews and recording for posterity, the real unity or relationship between the Father and the son.
The most crucial verse -
30 I and my Father are one.

One in what? In their Omniscience? In their Nature? In their Omnipotence? No! One in purpose! That once a believer has accepted faith, the Messenger sees to it that he remains in faith, and God Almighty also sees to it that he remains in faith. This is the purpose of the "Father" AND the "son" AND the "Holy Ghost" AND of every man AND every woman of faith.

John explain his Gnostic mystic words:

That they all may be ONE; as thou. Father, art in
me, and I in thee, that they also may be ONE in us...
I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made
perfect in ONE . . .
John 17:20-22 [/b]
And according to your own bible God has sons
by the tons, can they all be gods?
Can't you see that in the language of the Jew, every righteous person, every Tom, Dick and Harry who followed the Will and Plan of God, was a SON OF
GOD. It was a metaphorical descriptive term, commonly used among the Jews.

"...Adam, which was the SON OF GOD."
Luke 3:38
"That the SONS OF GOD saw the daughters of men that they were fair...
"And when the SONS OF GOD came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them..."
Genesis 6:2&4
"...Israel is MY SON, even my firstborn:"
Exodus 4:22
"...for I (God) am a FATHER to Israel, and Ephraim is my
firstborn."
Jeremiah 31:9
"...the Lord hath said unto me, (David) Thou art MY SON: this day have I BEGOTTEN thee."
Psalms 2:7
"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the
SONS OF GOD."
Romans1 8

And lastly for Jesus to die on the cross would have meant the triumph of his executioners; but the Quran asserts that they undoubtedly failed: "Assuredly God will defend those who believe";. He confounds the plots of the enemies of Isah (Jesus)... merciful God.
And yes I'll stick to Islam... Christianity is too hard twisted for every sane person

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by minifuworld: 1:21am On Oct 15, 2016
ayobase:
For all my muslim friends on here, please bear with me as I unleash some Biblical proofs over some issues:

At least you accept the fact that Jesus Christ came into this world via a virgin Mary which makes a unique being among Prophets.

Can I say He was conceived without sin.

Sonship.

There in the Bible;

Matthew 3:17 says "And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."

Mark: 1:11 says "And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."

Mark: 9:7 says "And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him."

Luke: 3:22. says "And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased."


Those are 3 of the 12 disciples of Jesus Christ giving accounts of what seen and heard while with Jesus Christ - more like news casting.



Tell me you don't believe in those.

Now the Jesus you believe in said this, coupled with written occurences by observers;

John: 10. 30. I and my Father are one.

John: 14. 20. At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

Matthew: 7. 21. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew: 10. 33. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew: 24. 36. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

John: 5. 43. I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

And many many more verses to establish fathership and sonship.

My question - why do you find it difficult to accept God calling Jesus Christ His son?

I learnt Mohammed was the Holy Spirit (Comforter) Jesus Christ said He will srnd while ascending into heaven.

John: 14. 26. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

With sound mind and logical reasoning, how can Muhammad of all Prophets with many scandals be the comforter!

Muhammed did not get an inch close to Jesus Christ to being a Comforter, let alone of being one himself.

Muhammed is con artist, he had ideas of the Bible which he was able to pick and manipulate verses to suit himself. We now have the Sunnis and Shites a result of his unresurrecting death.

Jesus Christ performed miracles while on earth coupled with His merciful disposition.

Muhammed is not close to being Comforter - that hooligan is far away from it.



Until you tell me the Bible has been compromised long before now, then those quoted verses remain valid.

your bible said they are not among the 12 disciples read luke 1:1. Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, 2. just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. 3. With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4. so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by Scholar8200(m): 8:34am On Oct 15, 2016
minifuworld:
that is why i said all the prophets of God come for thesame purpose
What is the Injil all about? (I know it is the Gospel) what is the Gospel?



and that is know your God as one, worship Him and do good.
And as for matthew 26:28 honestly you guys dont even understand the bible, pls kindly read from verse 26-29 maybe you will understand the message.
Kindly explain the message therein.

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by Scholar8200(m): 8:59am On Oct 15, 2016
mustymatic:


Jesus rebuts the false charge of his enemies that he was ambiguous in his claims to being the Messiah that they were waiting for. He says that he did tell them clearly enough, yet they would not listen to him,

25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and you believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And [size=18pt]I give unto them eternal life[/size]; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man PLUCK THEM OUT OF MY HAND.
29 My Father which gave them me, is greater than all, and no man is able to PLUCK THEM OUT OF MY FATHER'S HAND.

How can anyone be so blind as not to see the exactness of the ending of the last two verses.
You need to deal with the beam in yours first. Here Jesus plainly says HE gives Eternal Life, no prophet ever said such.


But spiritual blinkers are more impervious than physical
defects. He is telling the Jews and recording for posterity, the real unity or relationship between the Father and the son.
The most crucial verse -
30 I and my Father are one.

One in what? In their Omniscience? In their Nature? In their Omnipotence? No! One in purpose! That once a believer has accepted faith, the Messenger sees to it that he remains in faith, and God Almighty also sees to it that he remains in faith. This is the purpose of the "Father" AND the "son" AND the "Holy Ghost" AND of every man AND every woman of faith.
Have you never read this prayer:

These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, [size=18pt]Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son[/size], that thy Son also may glorify thee:

5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee [/b]before the world was.

John 17:1,5

Note that HE did not say the Glory I had from Thee like it was a gift granted but rather a Virtue shared from Eternity past!

You speak of blinders, well then perhaps you need to deal with yours too since you simply ignored Jesus reference to GOD as Father. NO PROPHET BEFORE JESUS EVER MADE THAT ASSERTION!!!



John explain his Gnostic mystic words:

That they all may be ONE; as thou. Father, art in
me, and I in thee, that they also may be ONE in us...
I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made
perfect in ONE . . .
John 17:20-22


oga, that was Jesus praying. It is strange that when you quoted chapter 5, you knew it was Jesus talking, how come you dont know Who was speaking in chapter 17?



nd according to your own bible God has sons
by the tons, can they all be gods?
Can't you see that in the language of the Jew, every righteous person, every Tom, Dick and Harry who followed the Will and Plan of God, was a SON OF
GOD. It was a metaphorical descriptive term, commonly used among the Jews. [b]
This is NOT true.



"...Adam, which was the SON OF GOD."
Luke 3:38
"That the SONS OF GOD saw the daughters of men that they were fair...
"And when the SONS OF GOD came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them..."
Genesis 6:2&4
"...Israel is MY SON, even my firstborn:"
Exodus 4:22
"...for I (God) am a FATHER to Israel, and Ephraim is my
firstborn."
Jeremiah 31:9
which was called Begotten among these? None because they were all created. If the word begotten was used for just one of them,sincerely, this discussion will end.



"...the Lord hath said unto me, (David) Thou art MY SON: this day have I BEGOTTEN thee."
Psalms 2:7
Messianic prophecy concerning Christ. the Jews knew this (dont tell me you know better than them) hence the quote of this psalm in Acts 4:25,26 with reference to Jesus. If you dont believe read Psalm 22 to see the prophetic insight on His death and Psalm 110 to see His exaltation.


"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the
SONS OF GOD."
Romans1 8
[/b]
You guys quote Paul's writings whenever it suits you! Well We become sons by being born again through faith in Christ hence the statement:

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

John 1:12



And lastly for Jesus to die on the cross would have meant the triumph of his executioners; but the Quran asserts that they undoubtedly failed: "Assuredly God will defend those who believe";. He confounds the plots of the enemies of Isah (Jesus)... merciful God.
And yes I'll stick to Islam...
So, was John the Baptist beheaded, yes or no?; Was Isaiah sawn asunder, yes or no? Was Zechariah stoned to death, yes or no?
And were these men prophets of God, yes or no?

Then who said this:

Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.
[/b]Matthew 20:28

[b]Saying, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be delivered unto the chief priests, and unto the scribes; and they shall condemn him to death, and shall deliver him to the Gentiles:

34 And they shall mock him, and shall scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall kill him: and the third day he shall rise again.

Mark 10:33,34



The real Victory is that He rose from the dead.


Christianity is too hard twisted for every sane person

In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by Scholar8200(m): 9:12am On Oct 15, 2016
Auki:
The Jesus (peace be on him), I know, whom I love as a Muslim, came to confirm a simple message-No brain gymnastic.

1.There is only ONE God, whom all depend. He begets not, nor is He begotten; And none is like Him.
This was NOT faintly alluded to by ANY prophet, why did He suddenly have a problem with this if truly HE said so?


2.He Jesus (peace be on him), like all messengers, was a prophet send only to convey the message of glad tiding [/b]to believers and warning of dire punishment to unbelievers
Good, glad tidings of what? (dont tell me the law, they had that already!)


. He never ascribe any divinity to himself, as either GOD, Son or operating partnership with God( trinity).
Was John the baptist mistaken when he said of Jesus:
[b]He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.John 3:31


and

John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
John 1:15


Later scribe exaggerated and invented Jesus divinity. Do your research it is actually worth doing.

Peace be on you(the reader)
[b][/b]
Which scribe? Give proofs. Even the OT prophets and people believed in the Triune Nature of God!

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by Scholar8200(m): 9:17am On Oct 15, 2016
minifuworld:
i dont know that am discusing with antichrist all these while
I noticed the highlighted. Do you know who the current antichrists are?

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1 John 2:22

This is so because Jesus had said,

All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
[/b]Matthew 11:27

Hence to deny the Son for Who HE is, is to be anti-Messiah.

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by Anas09: 2:39pm On Oct 15, 2016
mustymatic:

[b]
Jesus rebuts the false charge of his enemies that he was ambiguous in his claims to being the Messiah that they were waiting for. He says that he did tell them clearly enough, yet they would not listen to him,

25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and you believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
26 But ye believe not, because ye are
not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man PLUCK THEM OUT OF MY HAND.
29 My Father which gave them me, is greater than all, and no man is able to PLUCK THEM OUT OF MY FATHER'S HAND.

How can anyone be so blind as not to see the exactness of the ending of the last two verses. But spiritual blinkers are more impervious than physical
defects. He is telling the Jews and recording for posterity, the real unity or relationship between the Father and the son.
The most crucial verse -
30 I and my Father are one.

One in what? In their Omniscience? In their Nature? In their Omnipotence? No! One in purpose! That once a believer has accepted faith, the Messenger sees to it that he remains in faith, and God Almighty also sees to it that he remains in faith. This is the purpose of the "Father" AND the "son" AND the "Holy Ghost" AND of every man AND every woman of faith.

John explain his Gnostic mystic words:

That they all may be ONE; as thou. Father, art in
me, and I in thee, that they also may be ONE in us...
I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made
perfect in ONE . . .
John 17:20-22 [/b]
And according to your own bible God has sons
by the tons, can they all be gods?
Can't you see that in the language of the Jew, every righteous person, every Tom, Dick and Harry who followed the Will and Plan of God, was a SON OF
GOD. It was a metaphorical descriptive term, commonly used among the Jews.

"...Adam, which was the SON OF GOD."
Luke 3:38
"That the SONS OF GOD saw the daughters of men that they were fair...
"And when the SONS OF GOD came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them..."
Genesis 6:2&4
"...Israel is MY SON, even my firstborn:"
Exodus 4:22
"...for I (God) am a FATHER to Israel, and Ephraim is my
firstborn."
Jeremiah 31:9
"...the Lord hath said unto me, (David) Thou art MY SON: this day have I BEGOTTEN thee."
Psalms 2:7
"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the
SONS OF GOD."
Romans1 8

And lastly for Jesus to die on the cross would have meant the triumph of his executioners; but the Quran asserts that they undoubtedly failed: "Assuredly God will defend those who believe";. He confounds the plots of the enemies of Isah (Jesus)... merciful God.
And yes I'll stick to Islam... Christianity is too hard twisted for every sane person

Demzzy, the problem with you muslims is that, there are no prophecies in Islam, Allah never spoke through muhamed thats why you dont know when a proohet is speaking his words and when God is speaking throufh the mouth of a prophet.

Do you realize that David was a prophet, through which God spoke to his people?
Jesus forgave sins, he had the power to forgive men their sins, was anyone else with such authority?

You no dey even think wen u dey talk.

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by Anas09: 3:22pm On Oct 15, 2016
minifuworld:
i dont know that am discusing with antichrist all these while
Yea why not? You have indeed been discussing with an Antichrist of Arabia.
Maybe you don't know, the difference between Jesus of Nazareth and Jesus of Arabia is that;
Jesus of Nazareth is the Son of God, While

Jesus of Arabia is the slave of Allah.

Jesus of Nazareth forgave men's sins, but

Jesus of Arabia could not do Jack.

Jesus of Nazareth spoke in a normal age, but Jesus of Arabia spoke at birth.

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by analice107: 3:45pm On Oct 15, 2016
minifuworld:
why did you ignore verse 29 and 30 Wch is the most important?
We are still on it. so, who is your neighbour?
Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by GIVO: 10:23pm On Oct 15, 2016
In Christianity, Bibles are translated even in local languages, and made available for every christian to read and know the truth, but muslim has refused to make their Koran available in all languages, even english so that their people will not read and know the truth and turn to christianIsaiah 9:6 says unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given and the government shall be upon his shoulder. His name shall be called wonderful, counsellor, the mighty God, the Everlasting Father.
John 1:1-3 In the begining was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. Muslim knows that Jesus is the Word of God. Verse 14 says and the Word was made flesh and dwell with us. In John 14:6, Jesus said i am the way, the truth and the life, no man cometh to my father except through me.

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by sheubaba2013: 10:54am On Oct 16, 2016
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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by Btruth: 10:55am On Oct 16, 2016
Sense this thread will turn to a battle field soon.

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by ilynem(m): 10:56am On Oct 16, 2016
iLiquidator:
A rule of thumb in Islam is that a Muslim must believe in Jesus. Any Muslim that reject Jesus is not a Muslim. Our difference is that we Muslims believe him to be a prophet born by virgin Mary. He isn't a God.
And I wonder why you all have this impression? I dont want us to go into a form of argument, I am just trying to gain knowledge. Why do Muslims believe Jesus is not God?
Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by ilynem(m): 10:57am On Oct 16, 2016
minifuworld:
we accept jesus christ and we follow his teachings but we did not accept him as God or son of God or lord and personal savior because he never teaches that
He didn't teach it? How do you know that?
Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by northvietnam(m): 10:58am On Oct 16, 2016
Oga i think u need help
Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by ilynem(m): 10:58am On Oct 16, 2016
mustymatic:

Yes you are right, but let's view the commandments, muslims still follow them more often than christians
We are no longer bound by the law. If we were, then Jesus died for nothing

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by chimaobinelson(m): 11:00am On Oct 16, 2016
[b]Bible has been more than a thousand years before the birth of a bloodthirsty deceitful warlord mohammed,
he has to coin his perverted doctrines from the bible to claim a certain divinity.
He supported child marriage,lynching instead of preaching to his "unbelievers".,To Mohammed,its ok to be polygamous wit other peoples daughter,while his daughters husband is forbiden to marry more wives..wat a con man.
He own slaves and mistress who he relegates to nothing other than kitchen,living room and the other "sex"room.
i'm yet to read d prophets miracles,except taking precious lifes,in a bid to fight for a lame dead god.I strongly believe that the bible one holy true God can never be x10 of koranic allah.
this is the height of hypocrisy for an islamic fanatic like sanusi to gain affection with such a treachrous lies infested utterance...if u ever love JESUS u cant stand the blood of other humans,if sanusi can extend such boldness of professing his love for Jesus to taking the first hand in condeming every form of islamic extremism,knowing fully well that those brainwashed northern evil perpetrating youths look up to him,i guess Jesus will be happier.[/b]

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by jidxin(m): 11:01am On Oct 16, 2016
minifuworld:
we accept jesus christ and we follow his teachings but we did not accept him as God or son of God or lord and personal savior because he never teaches that


nd Jesus said:

“When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea
Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, ‘Whom
do men say that I, the Son of man, am?’ And
they said, ‘Some say that thou art John the
Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or
one of the prophets.’ He saith unto them, ‘But
whom say ye that I am?’ And Simon Peter
answered and said, ‘Thou art the Christ, the
Son of the living God.’
And Jesus answered and said unto him, ‘Blessed
art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood
hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father
which is in heaven’ ” (Matthew 16:13-17).



“[Jesus said] ‘I and my Father are one.’ Then
the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
Jesus answered them, ‘Many good works have I
shewed you from my Father; for which of those
works do ye stone me?’ The Jews answered
him, saying, ‘For a good work we stone thee
not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou,
being a man, makest thyself God’ ” (John
10:30-33).

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