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Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by ableguy(m): 1:50pm On Oct 14, 2016
Can a car going at the speed of for instance 120km/ph overtake another car doing the same speed? I have argued about this on several occasions, because I believe the speed clock or odometer should be like a clock that's always accurate and no clock goes faster than others.
I know car engine, horsepower and capabilities differ. But then I believe a car going at the same speed can't overtake the other.
If I am doing 120 km/hr for another car to overtake me it must be doing at least 125 or 130, car gurus in the house please help.
Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by lecturerdabo(m): 2:02pm On Oct 14, 2016
It is even possible for a car doing 100 to overtake you at ur 120 depending on

1. Engine size
2. Age
3. Rpmg(don't know if I got that right sha)
Etc


My belief tho!

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Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by Nobody: 2:03pm On Oct 14, 2016
A car moving at 120km/h will not overtake any object also moving at 120km/h. Be it another car(weaker or stronger), a hawk or a stone.

In as much as they're moving at the same speed. They will continue to cover the same distance at the same time.

Horsepower only determines how fast it can reach the said speed, traction etc.

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Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by tolugar: 2:04pm On Oct 14, 2016
No way bro

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Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by divinelove(m): 2:20pm On Oct 14, 2016
Basic physics say its not possible speed = distance/time, two cars at same speed will cover same distance at same time and therefore theoretically cant over take each other

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Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by ableguy(m): 2:21pm On Oct 14, 2016
lecturerdabo:
It is even possible for a car doing 100 to overtake you at ur 120 depending on

1. Engine size
2. Age
3. Rpmg(don't know if I got that right sha)
Etc


My belief tho!

A car doing 100 to overtake me at 120? Unless my speed clock is faulty or malfunctioning. The odometer you see on the dashboard can also be compared to a clock, it should be accurate and a reflection of the distance the car covers.

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Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by Nobody: 2:21pm On Oct 14, 2016
Dear Op, what primary and secondary school did you go to? I want to make sure that my kids DO NOT attend that school.

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Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by ableguy(m): 2:32pm On Oct 14, 2016
Dreamwaker:
Dear Op, what primary and secondary school did you go to? I want to make sure that my kids DO NOT attend that school.

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Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by ableguy(m): 2:56pm On Oct 14, 2016
divinelove:
Basic physics say its not possible speed = distance/time, two cars at same speed will cover same distance at same time and therefore theoretically cant over take each other

I thought as much

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Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by Inception(m): 3:02pm On Oct 14, 2016
Plasmbob1:
A car moving at 120km/h will not overtake any object also moving at 120km/h. Be it another car(weaker or stronger), a hawk or a stone.

In as much as they're moving at the same speed. They will continue to cover the same distance at the same time.

Horsepower only determines how fast it can reach the said speed, traction etc.

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Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by Specialist900(m): 3:09pm On Oct 14, 2016
Plasmbob1:
A car moving at 120km/h will not overtake any object also moving at 120km/h. Be it another car(weaker or stronger), a hawk or a stone.

In as much as they're moving at the same speed. They will continue to cover the same distance at the same time.

Horsepower only determines how fast it can reach the said speed, traction etc.
op,

the above says it all

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Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by ableguy(m): 3:19pm On Oct 14, 2016
Specialist900:
op,

the above says it all

I have always believed it is so, but it's common for people to tell you while traveling they were doing like 120 that no other vehicle saw their back, somebody even argued that he even overtake people doing 160/180 at 120 probably because of the capacity of the car. I couldn't allow him finish before cutting in telling him it's impossible unless his own speed clock is on miles.

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Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by erico2k2(m): 8:36pm On Oct 14, 2016
lecturerdabo:
It is even possible for a car doing 100 to overtake you at ur 120 depending on

1. Engine size
2. Age
3. Rpmg(don't know if I got that right sha)
Etc


My belief tho!
You are Dangerously wrong my friend, speed is speed irrespective of waht car you drive, the o nly difference is what it takes each vehicle to attain that speed.What you have to deduce are the variables and the constant factors.

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Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by erico2k2(m): 8:38pm On Oct 14, 2016
ableguy:


I have always believed it is so, but it's common for people to tell you while traveling they were doing like 120 that no other vehicle saw their back, somebody even argued that he even overtake people doing 160/180 at 120 probably because of the capacity of the car. I couldn't allow him finish before cutting in telling him it's impossible unless his own speed clock is on miles.
Yes that can only happen when they are using brooms at night grin grin grin

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Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by 3kay945(m): 8:42pm On Oct 14, 2016
Dreamwaker:
Dear Op, what primary and secondary school did you go to? I want to make sure that my kids DO NOT attend that school.


Baddoo grin grin

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Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by MykelOdus(m): 12:55am On Oct 15, 2016
3kay945:



Baddoo grin grin
Speed is Constant! Be it Motorbike or V12 engine or a conventional 4cylinder engine, 120km/h is the same, they CAN'T pass each other. Some speed clocks reads in Miles, while others are kilometres. So some people mistake Miles for Km.

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Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by ironheart(m): 6:09am On Oct 15, 2016
A car moving at 120km/hr will not overtake another car or object moving at thesame speed all things being equal.

In physics under ideal condition, a feather and a mass eg 1kg lead dropped from a hight neglecting air resistance will fall to the sound at thesame time. The acceleration due to gravity is 9.8ms`².

OP i think where you may be having this tot may hav to be due to acceleration.


Most cars acceleration is due to numerous factors

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Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by aperture11: 8:12am On Oct 15, 2016
I totally understand the op. Speed is speed no matter what, but the calibration of these cars can be largely inaccurate especially if you've worked on the engine in the past.

So while the Odometer says 120km/h it is actually doing 80km/h.

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Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by Exponental(m): 11:45am On Oct 15, 2016
Not possible for a NORMAL gauge.

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Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by erico2k2(m): 7:45pm On Oct 15, 2016
aperture11:
I totally understand the op. Speed is speed no matter what, but the calibration of these cars can be largely inaccurate especially if you've worked on the engine in the past.

So while the Odometer says 120km/h it is actually doing 80km/h.
we are talking of cars moving at same speed not waht the speedo is saying, these are two different concept.The speed cameras will record same speed.

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Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by sultaan(m): 8:50pm On Oct 15, 2016
It is possible based on an argument with individuals driving a toyota from Europe and a Chevy from the US.

One will be faster than the other at "120", a car doing 120mph(suicidal) is actually going about 190kmph.


If you use smaller tire and the other driver has a bigger tire then it is possible at 120kmph


With everything being normal, whoever argues such a point never took physics

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Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by dokiOloye(m): 11:14pm On Oct 15, 2016
erico2k2:

Yes that can only happen when they are using brooms at night grin grin grin
By Edo airways ba? grin grin grin

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Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by mammanbawa: 7:32am On Oct 16, 2016
A 16 cylinder Bugatti at 120km/H will not and cannot overtake a tricycle at the same speed. It's possible only if the Bugatti is accelerating and not at a constant velocity

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Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by erico2k2(m): 1:46pm On Oct 16, 2016
sultaan:
It is possible based on an argument with individuals driving a toyota from Europe and a Chevy from the US.

One will be faster than the other at "120", a car doing 120mph(suicidal) is actually going about 190kmph.


If you use smaller tire and the other driver has a bigger tire then it is possible at 120kmph


With everything being normal, whoever argues such a point never took physics
Thats a diff argument, cos you are using the narratives of North and south Poles as relative to magnetic fields.but for this argument we are talking same location same road.

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Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by ZIMDRILL(m): 3:17am On Oct 17, 2016
ableguy:
Can a car going at the speed of for instance 120km/ph overtake another car doing the same speed? I have argued about this on several occasions, because I believe the speed clock or odometer should be like a clock that's always accurate and no clock goes faster than others.
I know car engine, horsepower and capabilities differ. But then I believe a car going at the same speed can't overtake the other.
If I am doing 120 km/hr for another car to overtake me it must be doing at least 125 or 130, car gurus in the house please help.



In simple terms no

But speedometer are not accurate and also the size of the tyres affect the accurancy of the speedometer

Back to your question aslong both cars have been calibrated to measure the actual speed they wouldnt overtake each other

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Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by billyG(m): 5:03am On Oct 17, 2016
Haba!Can yur brother over take u if he is 15m behind u if u are running at d same speed?
Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by sultaan(m): 10:08am On Oct 17, 2016
erico2k2:

Thats a diff argument, cos you are using the narratives of North and south Poles as relative to magnetic fields.but for this argument we are talking same location same road.

What I meant is European cars are reads kmph and American cars read mph so if both drivers claim they were doing "120" the American car will be going faster
Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by sultaan(m): 10:13am On Oct 17, 2016
billyG:
Haba!Can yur brother over take u if he is 15m behind u if u are running at d same speed?

A car with 22' rim will surely move faster at 120kmph because the speed is from rate at which wheel spins, rpm of a bigger wheel covers more distance
Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by erico2k2(m): 10:50am On Oct 17, 2016
sultaan:


What I meant is European cars are reads kmph and American cars read mph so if both drivers claim they were doing "120" the American car will be going faster
Ok I get you now
Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by erico2k2(m): 10:54am On Oct 17, 2016
sultaan:


A car with 22' rim will surely move faster at 120kmph because the speed is from rate at which wheel spins, rpm of a bigger wheel covers more distance
i think you are getting it a bit mixed up
In Physics SPEED is the rate at which something move.So teh speed in question is the rate at which the car moves in this case 120m/Km per hour
in simple terms if the distance frm A to B is 120km then it takes the object or car an hour to get from A to B as far is its speed is constant.So if you was driving a F1 car with 30inch tyres and I was flying Edo Air and are both doing 120km/her, we would both get there in one hour as far as we are both doing same constant speed.

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Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by ableguy(m): 2:57pm On Oct 17, 2016
mammanbawa:
A 16 cylinder Bugatti at 120km/H will not and cannot overtake a tricycle at the same speed. It's possible only if the Bugatti is accelerating and not at a constant velocity

abi ooo, people think the capacity can make it possible. actually many people think so.
Re: Is It Possible For A Car Doing 120/km To Overtake Another At The Same Speed? by ableguy(m): 3:08pm On Oct 17, 2016
sultaan:


What I meant is European cars are reads kmph and American cars read mph so if both drivers claim they were doing "120" the American car will be going faster
we are talking about two cars reading in the same odometer be it in km/h or mile per hour. Let me rephrase it, can a V8 traveling at the speed of 120km/h overtake a 4 cylinder car doing the same speed? Because normally people will tell you the 4 cylinder car won't even come close because of the capacity.

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