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Shaykh 'Abdullaah Al-bukhaari On The 'aqeedah Of Muhammad Jaahili jabata by Nobody: 8:20am On Nov 22, 2016
This was sent to me via whatsapp, tho i did some insertions in parenthesis;

SHAYKH 'ABDILLAAH AL-BUKHOOREE ON THE 'AQEEDAH OF MUHAMMAD JAAHIL JABATA

Shaykh Duktuur 'Abdillaah al-Bukhooree is a professor of hadeeth at the Islaamic University of Madinah. This is an interpretation of a question and answer section with him (hafidhohuLlaah) during his advise to the students in the final session at the University.

The one reading the questions (a student of Shaykh Rabee, Shaykh 'Ubayd and still in the university) read: A person asked a question saying, "In Nigeria there is a caller who says there is no difference between bid'ah mukaffiroh and bid'ah mufassiqoh. What is the advise you'll give us regarding this? JazaakumuLlaahu khayr"

Shaykh 'Abdillaah al-Bukhooree: (He started with the introductory statements after which he said) The statement affirming that there is no difference between innovations is an error. What I am saying is that if one says there is no bid'ah which can make one become a kaafir or that all bid'ah makes one become a kaafir (yani, classifies bid'ah under one saying all are mukaffiroh, or all are mufassiqoh); this is a (great) error. This statement contradicts the evidences of the Qur'aan and sunnag, and the way of the Salaf from the first Salafs (sahaabi) till now. This statement is an innovation.

There are so many dolaal(misguidance) that will emanate from this. When the scholars where discussing the (case of the) sects, they explained that some of them were upon bid'ah mukaffiroh, like the Jahmiyyah, and there are those that were upon bid'ah mufassiqoh which does not take one out of the pale of Islaam, for example, the ashaa'iroh and the murji'ah. Altogether, the scholars of sunnah (based upon evidences) relates with these sects differently when discussing them on the basis that they see some of them as being into kufr and others not into kufr. That is the yardstick with which they related with the sects. For one to (now) say there is no difference between bid'ah, it is baatil(error/falsehood). the problem that will happen to this person (muhammad jaahil jabata and his students) is that he is likely to add new things (heresies) to the religion. he will give verdicts upon his designed way which if we will deal with him with his manhaj, we will make tabdee' and takfeer of. There won't be any difference with him as to calling someone a faasiq and a kaafir regarding this issue of bid'ah. How many people like him have introduced many heresies into the religion (of Allaah) and they do this based upon their ignorance of the Qur'aan, sunnoh and the way of the Salaf!

Let me give you an example from the Salaf (regarding this issue). Does this person (Muhammad Jaahil Jabata) want to compare (the innovation of) Jahm bn Sofwaan, [the one whom the 'aqeedah of Jahmiyyah was attributed to, he isn't the one who fabricated the heresy, but Ja'd bn Dirham], and the (innovation of) the one who says 'Aliyy has more virtues than 'Uthmaan? This is the light 'aqeedah of the shi'a (called minor shi'sm). Some of the scholars were afflicted with this, the likes of 'Abdur-rozzaaq bn san'aani (and others). They believed that 'Aliyy has more virtue than 'Uthmaan. Does he (Muhammad Jaahil Jabata) want to compare Jahm bn Sofwaan with 'Abdurrozzaaq san'aani Ibn Amman? The take of Imaam Ahmad and the students of 'Abdurrozzaaq contradicts this ideology (of Muhammad Jaahil Jabata because they never considered the innovations under the same ruling). For this reason, this statement does not have any deleel in the Qur'aan, the sunnah, and from the way of the Salaf.

We ask Allaah to grant us a better understanding of this religion.

– Aboo 'Aa'ishah Al-Odeomeey

May Allaah save us from the false manhaj of this takfeeri and jjaahil. And may Allaah guide him, his students and us to what is haqq(truth) – Ameen.
Re: Shaykh 'Abdullaah Al-bukhaari On The 'aqeedah Of Muhammad Jaahili jabata by Nobody: 9:43pm On Nov 22, 2016
Wallahi, whomsoever Allaah guides, NONE can misguide, whomsoever Allaah leads astray, no can guide.


I really appreciate akhees and ukhtis on the campaign against this Jabata guy, if not many would have been led astray without even knowing. I also pray Allaah preserve them Alfa Ejigbo, Sarumi, Ali Bawa, and co who have been refuting this evil, that this man has been spreading, we say jazakumullaahu khayran, and may Allaah preserve them upon khayr, ameen.


To counter attack things like this from happen in the future, is for ikhwan to seek knowledge, no matter how little, even if it is halqahs. Like Asshaykh Sharaf during the public lecture at Adeta months ago, most ppl came there to hear aw the mudillu l'agege was going to be abused, and refuted not wanting to know more of the deen, dat if the lecture title was sharh of sahih Bukhari, na 0% attendance. We should strive towards beneficial knowledge, so when a filthy scallywag comes with messy aqeedah, we can categorically be alerted and refuted them headlong.


Mudillu is on the path of muntashrikoon/orientalists and shi'I. Jabata, shekau, Abdullahi Al Faisal, and their likes are practicing the khariji manhaj wa aqeedah, and I blame the Nigerian Government for not taking threats like these people seriously, bcuz that was aw Al Qaeda, IS, Hezbolla, BH, and other filthy terror group started, taking it with kids glove, which is not meant to be so.


Countries like Saudiya, UAE, Egypt, have serious laws on these kharijs and co, bcuz they've experienced their menace first hand, thus anyone preaching their way, is instantly arrested and jailed, but not in 9ja, even for Ilorin here sef, dem don too chase jabata taya from many places, but the shayateen on his head have built COcOA house on his head.


Allaah's help is to be sought!

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Re: Shaykh 'Abdullaah Al-bukhaari On The 'aqeedah Of Muhammad Jaahili jabata by Demmzy15(m): 12:18am On Nov 23, 2016
Jabata is now going global, na wa o. grin grin Alhamdullahi the senior scholars have started speaking against this Odaran!
Re: Shaykh 'Abdullaah Al-bukhaari On The 'aqeedah Of Muhammad Jaahili jabata by DeathStroke007(m): 6:43am On Nov 23, 2016
May Allah forgive your ignorance. This is one of many lies attached to jabata.. anyways, for you to know who jabata really is, no matter how you hate him or misunderstood him through heresy, find time to listen to his lectures.

If you like, listen, if you like don't.



Salam alaikum
Re: Shaykh 'Abdullaah Al-bukhaari On The 'aqeedah Of Muhammad Jaahili jabata by Nobody: 7:41am On Nov 23, 2016
DeathStroke007:
May Allah forgive your ignorance. This is one of many lies attached to jabata.. anyways, for you to know who jabata really is, no matter how you hate him or misunderstood him through heresy, find time to listen to his lectures.

If you like, listen, if you like don't.



Salam alaikum

Do you even read at all? Which lie was told about him here, pls point it out.
Re: Shaykh 'Abdullaah Al-bukhaari On The 'aqeedah Of Muhammad Jaahili jabata by Gudeakemson: 9:12am On Nov 23, 2016
lexiconkabir:
This was sent to me via whatsapp, tho i did some insertions in parenthesis;

SHAYKH 'ABDILLAAH AL-BUKHOOREE ON THE 'AQEEDAH OF MUHAMMAD JAAHIL JABATA

Shaykh Duktuur 'Abdillaah al-Bukhooree is a professor of hadeeth at the Islaamic University of Madinah. This is an interpretation of a question and answer section with him (hafidhohuLlaah) during his advise to the students in the final session at the University.

The one reading the questions (a student of Shaykh Rabee, Shaykh 'Ubayd and still in the university) read: A person asked a question saying, "In Nigeria there is a caller who says there is no difference between bid'ah mukaffiroh and bid'ah mufassiqoh. What is the advise you'll give us regarding this? JazaakumuLlaahu khayr"

Shaykh 'Abdillaah al-Bukhooree: (He started with the introductory statements after which he said) The statement affirming that there is no difference between innovations is an error. What I am saying is that if one says there is no bid'ah which can make one become a kaafir or that all bid'ah makes one become a kaafir (yani, classifies bid'ah under one saying all are mukaffiroh, or all are mufassiqoh); this is a (great) error. This statement contradicts the evidences of the Qur'aan and sunnag, and the way of the Salaf from the first Salafs (sahaabi) till now. This statement is an innovation.

There are so many dolaal(misguidance) that will emanate from this. When the scholars where discussing the (case of the) sects, they explained that some of them were upon bid'ah mukaffiroh, like the Jahmiyyah, and there are those that were upon bid'ah mufassiqoh which does not take one out of the pale of Islaam, for example, the ashaa'iroh and the murji'ah. Altogether, the scholars of sunnah (based upon evidences) relates with these sects differently when discussing them on the basis that they see some of them as being into kufr and others not into kufr. That is the yardstick with which they related with the sects. For one to (now) say there is no difference between bid'ah, it is baatil(error/falsehood). the problem that will happen to this person (muhammad jaahil jabata and his students) is that he is likely to add new things (heresies) to the religion. he will give verdicts upon his designed way which if we will deal with him with his manhaj, we will make tabdee' and takfeer of. There won't be any difference with him as to calling someone a faasiq and a kaafir regarding this issue of bid'ah. How many people like him have introduced many heresies into the religion (of Allaah) and they do this based upon their ignorance of the Qur'aan, sunnoh and the way of the Salaf!

Let me give you an example from the Salaf (regarding this issue). Does this person (Muhammad Jaahil Jabata) want to compare (the innovation of) Jahm bn Sofwaan, [the one whom the 'aqeedah of Jahmiyyah was attributed to, he isn't the one who fabricated the heresy, but Ja'd bn Dirham], and the (innovation of) the one who says 'Aliyy has more virtues than 'Uthmaan? This is the light 'aqeedah of the shi'a (called minor shi'sm). Some of the scholars were afflicted with this, the likes of 'Abdur-rozzaaq bn san'aani (and others). They believed that 'Aliyy has more virtue than 'Uthmaan. Does he (Muhammad Jaahil Jabata) want to compare Jahm bn Sofwaan with 'Abdurrozzaaq san'aani Ibn Amman? The take of Imaam Ahmad and the students of 'Abdurrozzaaq contradicts this ideology (of Muhammad Jaahil Jabata because they never considered the innovations under the same ruling). For this reason, this statement does not have any deleel in the Qur'aan, the sunnah, and from the way of the Salaf.

We ask Allaah to grant us a better understanding of this religion.

– Aboo 'Aa'ishah Al-Odeomeey

May Allaah save us from the false manhaj of this takfeeri and jjaahil. And may Allaah guide him, his students and us to what is haqq(truth) – Ameen.

Where is the evidence of the shaykh of all his refutation.. Islam in Nigeria of nowadays is beyond what anyone can just say with his own opinion without any evidence from Quran and hadith of Prophet Muhammad
Re: Shaykh 'Abdullaah Al-bukhaari On The 'aqeedah Of Muhammad Jaahili jabata by Nobody: 9:17am On Nov 23, 2016
Gudeakemson:


Where is the evidence of the shaykh of all his refutation.. Islam in Nigeria of nowadays is beyond what anyone can just say with his own opinion without any evidence from Quran and hadith of Prophet Muhammad

What's your former moniker? Anyway this has been discussed many times here and i believe i have discussed this with you in your alternate account, so I'll just refer you to the discussion;

https://www.nairaland.com/3420338/bidah-innovation-matters-religion#50392848

https://www.nairaland.com/3316365/does-all-bidah-innovation-take
Re: Shaykh 'Abdullaah Al-bukhaari On The 'aqeedah Of Muhammad Jaahili jabata by Demmzy15(m): 2:19pm On Nov 23, 2016
DeathStroke007:
[s]May Allah forgive your ignorance. This is one of many lies attached to jabata.. anyways, for you to know who jabata really is, no matter how you hate him or misunderstood him through heresy, find time to listen to his lectures.

If you like, listen, if you like don't.[/s]



Salam alaikum
Wa Alaikum Salam! angry

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Re: Shaykh 'Abdullaah Al-bukhaari On The 'aqeedah Of Muhammad Jaahili jabata by Empiree: 6:01pm On Dec 20, 2016
Jabata met set of alagidi grin

A secret footage of Jabata leaked. grin grin

So this is how he looks

He's going to curse whoever secretly recorded this shocked shocked shocked cry

Unfortunately, no decorum undecided undecided undecided


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRIw2pwSQFk
Re: Shaykh 'Abdullaah Al-bukhaari On The 'aqeedah Of Muhammad Jaahili jabata by Rilwayne001: 7:15pm On Dec 20, 2016
Empiree:
Jabata met set of alagidi grin
A secret footage of Jabata leaked. grin grin
So this is how he looks
He's going to curse whoever secretly recorded this shocked shocked shocked cry
Unfortunately, no decorum undecided undecided undecided
hSQFk

grin grin
Re: Shaykh 'Abdullaah Al-bukhaari On The 'aqeedah Of Muhammad Jaahili jabata by Empiree: 7:48pm On Dec 20, 2016
Rilwayne001:


grin grin
The end was funny. He said 'is that my video you are taking?'. They replied 'it is audio' grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin He said 'no no no no you better erase it [from the device]".

Seems Jabata is "videommophobia"
Re: Shaykh 'Abdullaah Al-bukhaari On The 'aqeedah Of Muhammad Jaahili jabata by Empiree: 8:04pm On Dec 20, 2016
I am told the discussions with Jabata was just coincidence. Mudir of a college just gave lecture on the permissibility of Mawlud when Jabata coincidently met them there and discussion escalated kiss
Re: Shaykh 'Abdullaah Al-bukhaari On The 'aqeedah Of Muhammad Jaahili jabata by Rilwayne001: 8:17pm On Dec 20, 2016
Empiree:
The end was funny. He said 'is that my video you are taking?'. They replied 'it is audio' grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin He said 'no no no no you better erase it [from the device]".

Seems Jabata is "videommophobia

Lolol grin grin

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