michlan:
I read the post by hardmirror about his renouncing Christianity and I must say that I am glad, sad and mad at the same time.

I am glad because his story has caused a personal revival in my own heart (1 Cor 10:12 is really welling up a revival in my heart as I’m getting fresh and deeper understanding), sad because it is an anguish for one who has seen the light before turn away from the path even in the heart of the Lord Jesus and mad because the devil is not resting in ensuring that he takes as many down with himself as possible.

As I kept on reading his piece, many scriptures kept flashing that made me cry back to God for a personal revival. Therefore, I see it as a need for some of us who has seen God’s goodness to testify of His works and how real he has been to us. My aim is not to start an argument nor defend God but we owe it to Him to always tell others about what he has done for us and I am convinced in my heart that truly, there is a God in heaven. I may not have seen as many “spiritual manifestations” as him, yet my experiences are real enough such that no man can convince me otherwise.

I became born again in my second week on campus and that was September 10, 2006 when some group of Christians were on evangelism on a Sunday morning and I immediately joined the fellowship and was being taught the rudiments of a Christian life. I got introduced to spiritual books and some of the experiences increased my thirst for the supernatural and I also started seeking such experiences like seeing visions, angels, miracles etc.

Now, I must confess at this point that I have never seen angels nor visions but God has revealed himself in ways I have come to love so much I would not give up for any “spectacular” experience.


When I became newly converted, I found myself still struggling with certain sins and I would cry afterwards to earn God’s forgiveness, but it was a major problem for me to be assured that God has heard my prayers, then I resorted to some tests which I used many times but I can vividly remember 3 distinct times. At 3 different locations when I finished praying and I wanted to be sure I was heard, there was no electrical power and I asked to make sure that power came on if he has really forgiven me, it was not up to 10 seconds after I said this that it happened, 2 times I asked for power to be restored and one time I asked for the power to be off. Please notice these were not same locations and the areas were not places that had erratic power supply. All this happened in my first year of being converted and God answered this spiritual babe in my ignorance.

Another event that I can never forget was on 2 different occasions on campus in my 2nd year, I was about to leave school at night and it was raining heavily, I prayed that rain should cease for me to get home (there were urgent needs for me to get home at those moments), the rains stopped immediately and the moments I entered my room, a very heavy downpour started both times (I had to trek for about 20 minutes to get home).

Please note that all these were during my days as a spiritual babe who was just curious about how real God was and these occurrences went on to cement my faith (at that time) that they were not ordinary nor were they coincidences. I am not saying that God is always bound to reveal Himself in such manners. Then He helped me and showed me a more excellent way and since then, I have not tried those methods again.

I got baptized in the Holy Ghost on July 26, 2008 and afterwards I started noticing some changes in me. I discovered that whenever I spoke, I usually speak with more authority (I had been very timid and an introvert before now) and my words usually came with power especially when I talk to people. Then a major turnaround happened some few months later.

A popular minister was to come to our campus to minister for 3 days and we had different units in preparation for the meeting, I joined the security/protocol unit and when he was coming for the evening crusade, I was the closest to him so I approached him to collect his bible, he just smiled and laid his hands on my shoulder for some seconds and said “God bless you brother” without giving his bible to me (I later learnt he doesn’t give his bible to others to carry).

I had never learnt about transfer of anointing neither was I seeking for any anointing, I only learnt what happened that day in some books I read afterwards. I also did not feel anything as he touched me but I observed the change when I got home afterwards. I opened my bible to read and anywhere I opened to read became life and practical to me, I discovered that when I am faced with any situation at any season, scriptures will just jump from my heart describing my situation and showing the way forward. I could sit down with a verse of scripture and write pages on the issues there especially as it pertained to our contemporary world. Let me take my time to share some of my experiences on the word of God becoming life to me.

My set finished from school in December 2012 and we were hoping to go for service in March of 2013, that was when they started the issue of JAMB regularization. Some of us including me came in through pre-degree and were told that we could not make the first batch in March but rather wait for July. Suddenly, when the mobilization list for July came out, my institution was excluded because the staffs submitted our names after the deadline due to their negligence, we were all told to wait for November. It was very distressing because we had other things we needed to achieve in life rather than wait endlessly for NYSC. I could remember that few weeks before the orientation camp for July would commence, I was just lying on the sofa in our living room that afternoon and I was reading John 4 then I came to verse 35, I was about to pass it through until a voice in my heart (whom I’ve come to know as the Holy Spirit) called me back to it. I was reading the king James version “Say ye not 4 months and then cometh Harvest” (it was 4 months between each NYSC batch) and the word “Harvest” was interpreted to me as “Service”.

If you see the way I jumped out of the chair that day, I was convinced beyond reasonable doubt that I will be going for service that July even if our name was not on the mobilization list. That night we heard a news from school that the NYSC has asked them to resubmit our list just 2 weeks to camping. When the call up letter came out about 1200 of us were given call-up letters out of the remaining 2500 students. Now a very close friend of mine who was also a Christian was not among and had to wait till November. Were the others who had to wait sinners and why did God not answer their own prayer? (I will address this question later). These are verifiable facts and you can ask anyone who went for service in June 2013 from LAUTECH.

Another experience I would love to share happened in February 2016 about how I got a job after over a year of trying. I had a plan to go for my masters in GIS because I did my internship at my school’s GIS lab and was convinced it’s the field for me to pursue my career. However, I needed to get working experience to improve my chances as I planned to apply to some schools in Germany due to the free tuition. I searched online for such firms around Lagos and got 3 addresses I was planning to visit. I had spent a lot searching for jobs and it was starting to get frustrating, so on this fateful day, I left home for surulere where the first firm was located. I also called the 2 other firms on my way, one of them did not pick the phone while the other told me there was no vacancy, when I reached the one at surulere, I was told that they don’t have space to take me.

I remembered walking down Ogunlana drive and I was so dejected and paraphrased a scripture to God “I have toiled all day and I have caught nothing” Luke 5:5 and I simply heard that voice in my spirit quoting verse 4 back to me so I called back the previous one that did not pick but again I heard no response, as I got to under the bridge at Ogunlana drive where there is a checkpoint, the man called me back, I explained my situation to him, then he asked me to come and see him in his office the following day, we chatted and he asked me to come and resume immediately without collecting my CV. My plan was to also get experience even if it meant no pay but thank God I received a pay to cater for my transport, feeding and I could also save and send some money to my younger brother in school.

To me, the bible is not just some words on paper but when the Holy Spirit breaths on it in my heart, it becomes so powerful than the greatest forces in the physical and spiritual.

Permit me to also share this particular incident when I was having my IT, I had stayed back in school to do the IT in my department in obedience to the instruction I received. There was a bookshop in town I had gone to look for a particular book and I was told the book was N4500 and I was waiting for when I will have the total amount to go and purchase this book. On this particular day, I heard the same voice in my spirit telling me to get up now and go to the bookshop to buy the book, all the money I had to spare that day was 4200, I was a bit hesitant because I would still need a transport fare of 100 naira to and fro but I decided to obey that voice within me.

I got a taxi to take me to where the bookshop was and when the driver got to the bus stop before where I was going, I was the only passenger left in the car and the man apologized that he will have to turn at that junction to go to another place he needs to be urgently. The place was just about 100 meters to where I was going, so I alighted and gave the man the fare but he insisted he will not take it, I told him not to worry and take it but the man refused, so I thanked him and trekked to the seminary where the bookshop was located.

On getting there, I discovered that they were having a conference and there were various book selling stands (I had no previous idea such a thing was going on) so I approached one where I saw the particular book I was looking for and the seller told me it was 4100, I nearly cried as I was awed by how caring God was about little details of my life, then the man asked what I was doing, I told him I am a student and he said he’s very glad when he sees students and youths reading books in this generation, then he returned 100 naira to me making it 4000 naira I paid for the book, water kept dripping from my eyes on my way back because I came to appreciate the supernatural way God was leading me even if it was not “spectacular” as what many people (including me) hoped to experience but I have come to see how divine those leadings were.

Time and space will not permit me to share many other events such as the circumstances surrounding my coming to Germany, how deliverance comes from “merely” teaching the bible, my NYSC experiences, how God told me to watch and see who my real father is when I had some issues with my dad and he did not send any money to me in school for 8 months (that was the period I had money most in school), how God disciplines me when I go wrong, the encounter I had with God’s word and has made me to never fall sick or use a drug since 2008 up till this moment even though I was a frequent patient of malaria before then.

I also remember how my roommate on campus then was delivered from High BP (about 4 of us knew about it on campus) when a word of knowledge came from the pulpit when a guest minister mentioned there was a young man in the meeting who had high blood pressure and that it has been taken away. He had been to the hospital like 4 times for about a year and they kept on telling him he still had it before the ministration. The next time he went to the hospital to check, it was gone, he said the doctor kept on telling him they would keep observing to see how real his miracle was. My friend got married last Saturday and he still does not have any High BP up till now.

Or is it about a blind man that got to see when we went for an outreach and a “common” brother in the fellowship prayed for him.
I am not saying that God has answered all my prayers as that would be a lie or all his revelations have been palatable. I remembered when he showed me that one of my mum’s siblings would die that year, I informed my mum and I started praying about it but it still happened few months after that as her eldest sibling suddenly slumped and died at the age of 62. Many other times, I have prayed for people’s healing but they still do not get it. It doesn’t change the fact that He is God or powerless, the truth is that no man can fully comprehend God or know what he knows but I am content to always appreciate the little knowledge I have of and from him.

My submission is that anyone who tries to fully know/explain God will lose his mind but anyone who ignores Him will lose his soul, thus, I am content with Deut 29:29. He is the creator and is never subject to the wishes, prayers, wills, emotions, needs of his creation even though he responds to them as a responsibility.

My aim is not to start another argument over whether He exists or not but to give my own personal testimony of my experience with him. Even if any man comes up with “logical” reasons for such experiences, it doesn’t change the fact that they are yet real to me and I keep on getting assurances of His love for me as a father. My experiences with God also does not make others who do not have such less of a Christian as I’ve come to discover they also have an experience of God which I’ve never had

All the accounts I have shared with you are first hand experiences and you have the choice to believe or disbelieve them, it still doesn’t change God or whether they are true or not but I know whom I have believed, the things I have seen, touched and handled in my walk with Him and am convinced that He lives forevermore. Shalom

Wow bro I totally believe with what you have written up there....both the seen and unseen part of it. Pls bros, how can I have this kind of relationship with God. I am a logical and spiritual person. I don't believe things on face value,but from my little experience (as a baby xtian) that God is more real than we can imagine and he does not owe anybody explanation.

How can I know him beyond the ordinary, without distraction?
His words (bible) carry supernatural power, I have experienced a bit of it...How can I av it's revelation and understanding power ?

I think God and his ways is something worth knowing and understanding .......

Intrepid01:


Wow bro I totally believe with what you have written up there....both the seen and unseen part of it. Pls bros, how can I have this kind of relationship with God. I am a logical and spiritual person. I don't believe things on face value,but from my little experience (as a baby xtian) that God is more real than we can imagine and he does not owe anybody explanation.

How can I know him beyond the ordinary, without distraction?
His words (bible) carry supernatural power, I have experienced a bit of it...How can I av it's revelation and understanding power ?

I think God and his ways is something worth knowing and understanding .......

just plan towards it. I'll recommend two books to you:

1. Listening Prayer by Mary Ruth Swope and
2. Three Mist important things in your life by Mike Murdock

If you need more information, do let me know

Intrepid01:


Wow bro I totally believe with what you have written up there....both the seen and unseen part of it. Pls bros, how can I have this kind of relationship with God. I am a logical and spiritual person. I don't believe things on face value,but from my little experience (as a baby xtian) that God is more real than we can imagine and he does not owe anybody explanation.

How can I know him beyond the ordinary, without distraction?
His words (bible) carry supernatural power, I have experienced a bit of it...How can I av it's revelation and understanding power ?

I think God and his ways is something worth knowing and understanding .......

use ur brain must u quote the whole epistle

michlan:
I read the post by hardmirror about his renouncing Christianity and I must say that I am glad, sad and mad at the same time.

I am glad because his story has caused a personal revival in my own heart (1 Cor 10:12 is really welling up a revival in my heart as I’m getting fresh and deeper understanding), sad because it is an anguish for one who has seen the light bef

Bro I think you need to learn how to summarize thing you've just wasted a whole page with those quoting the whole epistle

ammyluv2002:
Why is it that most threads like this are usually long? Una no sabi summarize?

me self I tire O!

chrmn1:
just plan towards it. I'll recommend two books to you:

1. Listening Prayer by Mary Ruth Swope and
2. Three Mist important things in your life by Mike Murdock

If you need more information, do let me know

Thanks brother

hardmirror is on the right track because I'm a Muslim and I saw Quranic inscription on animal tree etc with other miracles does not mean islam is the true religion or because Buddha teachings are inspiring does not make it true all your testimonies are just mystical and not special people of other believe has greater testimony that does not prove anything don't be ignorant because of some mystic miracles learn what is real accept the truth all religion came from preexisting religion many of them goes back to Egyptian myth. in fact Egyptian gods are the most real because mysterious evidence of their myth are still existing even science can't explain them

Intrepid01:


Wow bro I totally believe with what you have written up there....both the seen and unseen part of it. Pls bros, how can I have this kind of relationship with God. I am a logical and spiritual person. I don't believe things on face value,but from my little experience (as a baby xtian) that God is more real than we can imagine and he does not owe anybody explanation.

How can I know him beyond the ordinary, without distraction?
His words (bible) carry supernatural power, I have experienced a bit of it...How can I av it's revelation and understanding power ?

I think God and his ways is something worth knowing and understanding .......

To have a relationship with God is the easiest thing on earth only that we humans make it very complex. 2 things are required; humility and obedience.

The reason why Atheists find it hard to get God is because they are proud of their "intelligence", they seek God proudly and the bible says in Prov 3:34 that He resists the proud hence they can not know Him but He gives grace to the humble and those of contrite heart. It is possible to ask God the same questions the atheists ask him and you will be surprised at how diligently He answers whereas they cannot get such answers because they are not seeking Him humbly. This is the major difference between Saul and David.

The second issue is obedience. God never starts speaking to us in dramatic ways. Our obedience to the little things he commands us will increase the level of relationship. These include obedience to little instructions we read in our bible daily. The more we are faithful to those things, you will not be able to pin point when/how exactly the relationship has grown but it will be evident that it has grown. We only observe the growth when we sit down to take a retrospect of how far our relationship with Him has grown.

Prayer, fasting, giving etc are spiritual exercises that we do naturally if we are obedient to God's word. I would have been ambiguous to start giving "7 keys" or steps to grow with God. Just stick with those 2 and see how amazed you will be at your growth. All other spiritual attributes stem from these.

tollyboy5:

Bro I think you need to learn how to summarize thing you've just wasted a whole page with those quoting the whole epistle

I tried but found it hard to leave out most of the details there.

michlan:


To have a relationship with God is the easiest thing on earth only that we humans make it very complex. 2 things are required; humility and obedience.

The reason why Atheists find it hard to get God is because they are proud of their "intelligence", they seek God proudly and the bible says in Prov 3:34 that He resists the proud hence they can not know Him but He gives grace to the humble and those of contrite heart. It is possible to ask God the same questions the atheists ask him and you will be surprised at how diligently He answers whereas they cannot get such answers because they are not seeking Him humbly. This is the major difference between Saul and David.

The second issue is obedience. God never starts speaking to us in dramatic ways. Our obedience to the little things he commands us will increase the level of relationship. These include obedience to little instructions we read in our bible daily. The more we are faithful to those things, you will not be able to pin point when/how exactly the relationship has grown but it will be evident that it has grown. We only observe the growth when we sit down to take a retrospect of how far our relationship with Him has grown.

Prayer, fasting, giving etc are spiritual exercises that we do naturally if we are obedient to God's word. I would have been ambiguous to start giving "7 keys" or steps to grow with God. Just stick with those 2 and see how amazed you will be at your growth. All other spiritual attributes stem from these.

Thank you sir....I appreciate

tollyboy5:
hardmirror is on the right track because I'm a Muslim and I saw Quranic inscription on animal tree etc with other miracles does not mean islam is the true religion or because Buddha teachings are inspiring does not make it true all your testimonies are just mystical and not special people of other believe has greater testimony that does not prove anything don't be ignorant because of some mystic miracles learn what is real accept the truth all religion came from preexisting religion many of them goes back to Egyptian myth. in fact Egyptian gods are the most real because mysterious evidence of their myth are still existing even science can't explain them

I'm satisfied with my bible because it gives perfect answers to all my questions. Why should I now deny it when it tells me about a need for my soul to be saved and it instructs me to share (not force) the "Good News" to others on how they can also be saved and I will be faithful to doing so. To convict others of the same belief is not my business, my own is to talk to them about it and pray for them as i'm commanded

michlan:


I tried but found it hard to leave out most of the details there.

Lolz you replied like a good Christian brother I concur with you believe what works for you but that does not make religion to appear not real if you follow religion intellectually you would discover it flaws and were it originate from miracles ate nothing special as we live in a mysterious universe, people now give intellectual approach to religion but if you chose to follow religion with believe there is no problem

tollyboy5:

Lolz you replied like a good Christian brother I concur with you believe what works for you but that does not make religion to appear not real if you follow religion intellectually you would discover it flaws and were it originate from miracles ate nothing special as we live in a mysterious universe, people now give intellectual approach to religion but if you chose to follow religion with believe there is no problem

Actually, i've never found any flaw/inaccuracy in the bible and i've read it over quite a number of times. Whenever I see somewhere that seems inaccurate to me, God gives me the part of scripture that gives me the answer i'm looking for and i'm always awed by how accurate the bible is. An example is if you just read Gen 1:1-2, one might not know that there are several other passages in the bible that detail events that happened in between those 2 verses hence making me to understand perfectly the action God took in subsequent verses

Ayoolla:
Spot on sir. They overcame by the blood of the lamb and by the words of their testimony.

Excellent post ! I feel inspired.

You guys are talking about sharing testimonies. That is the most powerful way to learn.

Now we have no more excuse for our ignorance of how the spirit realm on both the dark side and the light side operate in human life, thanks to Emmanuel TV.
It is frightening to hear all the personal testimonies of people that have suffered because of stepping into the dark side.
Can one escape the vicious spiritual traps laid for millions of innocent people by fake pastors, competing religions, cruel governments and science, atheism/deism/ agnostism?
Emmanuel TV provide the most scientifically verifiable evidence of the highest spiritual TRUTH to the world 24 HRS A DAY. Now you too can escape into true light.

OLAFIMIX:
Why can't we Christian on this great forum focus more on testimonies, to help we babies in thy Lord. Your testimonies we help a lot. Ignore Ex pastor hardmirror

Good Point made ! Testimonies are powerful evidence, even in a court of law. A great way to learn from peoples testimonies is as follows;

Now we have no more excuse for our ignorance of how the spirit realm on both the dark side and the light side operate in human life, thanks to Emmanuel TV.

It is frightening to hear all the personal testimonies of people that have suffered because of stepping into the dark side.

Can one escape the vicious spiritual traps laid for millions of innocent people by fake pastors, competing religions, cruel governments and science, atheism/deism/ agnostism?

Emmanuel TV provide the most scientifically verifiable evidence of the highest spiritual TRUTH to the world 24 HRS A DAY. Now you too can escape into true light.

tollyboy5:
hardmirror is on the right track because I'm a Muslim and I saw Quranic inscription on animal tree etc with other miracles does not mean islam is the true religion or because Buddha teachings are inspiring does not make it true all your testimonies are just mystical and not special people of other believe has greater testimony that does not prove anything don't be ignorant because of some mystic miracles learn what is real accept the truth all religion came from preexisting religion many of them goes back to Egyptian myth. in fact Egyptian gods are the most real because mysterious evidence of their myth are still existing even science can't explain them

One compelling reason Hardmirror is now denying Jesus Christ is that he was trained by FAKE pastors.

Hardmirror never knew that Jesus gave direct advice on the matter of FALSE pastor Vs TRUE pastor. Hardmirror fell in the trap thousands of pastors have fallen into. That is, if you get your theoretical qualification you are now a pastor. That is a lie.

To keep it simple - Hardmirror was trained by FAKE pastors so there was no way to get the awesome anointing of POWER that separates FAKE pastors from real pastors. Do not be fooled any longer, today there is too much evidence that is getting many fake pastors panic. Below is way Jesus Christ himself explain this problem;

Here Jesus explains why all the miracles, prophecy, Signs and Wonders are an extremely important part of His Mission. Jesus says clearly in these biblical refs that the WORKS that He does bear witness that the Father has sent him.

Joh 5:35 John was a burning and a shining light: and you were willing for a season to rejoice in his light.

Joh 5:36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the miracles/ WORKS which the Father has given me to finish, the same miracles/ WORKS that I do, bear witness for me, that the Father hath sent me.

Joh 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that does not honour the Son does not honour the Father who has sent him.

Today, we are blessed to have the evidence of Jesus’ WORKS Biblically and scientifically verified in the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria and on Emmanuel TV.

Only the WORKS bear witness of a real pastor, not their elaborate speeches, conferences and motivational speeches. Joh 14:12 Truly, Truly, I say to you, He that believes me, the miracles/ WORKS that I do will you also do; and greater (more) miracles/WORKS than these shall you do; because I must soon go unto my Father.

Here Jesus Christ explains to all real pastors, ministers and evangelists that humbly want spiritual enlightenment and power;

Joh 14:12 Truly, Truly, I say to you, He that believes me, the miracles/ WORKS that I do will you also do; and greater (more) miracles/WORKS than these shall you do; because I must soon go unto my Father.

Today, we are blessed to have the evidence of Jesus’ WORKS Biblically and scientifically verified in the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria and on Emmanuel TV.

A pastor, minister, evangelist will be know by their WORKS so that fake pastors can be separated from the real pastors. The wheat is separated from the chaff.

Only the WORKS bear witness of a real pastor, not their elaborate speeches, conferences and motivational speeches.

What are these WORKS that Jesus always refer to ?
They are the miracles, prophecy, signs and wonders. Jesus also instructs all pastors, ministers, evangelists to do the same. Jesus says to them,”As my father sent me, so send I you.”

[b]Now the world finally have a free education channel [/b]24 hours a day, seven days a week on Emmanuel TV demonstrating true scientifically verifiable evidence and deeper meaning of John 14:12

Intrepid01:


Wow bro I totally believe with what you have written up there....both the seen and unseen part of it. Pls bros, how can I have this kind of relationship with God. I am a logical and spiritual person. I don't believe things on face value,but from my little experience (as a baby xtian) that God is more real than we can imagine and he does not owe anybody explanation.

How can I know him beyond the ordinary, without distraction?
His words (bible) carry supernatural power, I have experienced a bit of it...How can I av it's revelation and understanding power ?

I think God and his ways is something worth knowing and understanding .......

Awesome post, Michlan.

TB Joshua - breaking the vicious chains of false religion in the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria

You make a very powerful observation concerning humans inability to understand the deepest spiritual knowledge of God that only Christ could teach, you state that, to quote your other post "To have a relationship with God is the easiest thing on earth only that we humans make it very complex."

I have come to understand that all religions including most of so-called Christian leaders wrongly impart a theoretical understanding of God.
While Christ came to rectify this serious weakness by freely giving awesome practical demonstrations of what the true worship of God
must produce in fallen human life as witnessed 24 hrs daily on Emmanuel TV and youtube.com

Through the mind-blowing demonstrations of Gods power and Love for all suffering Humanity, Christ proved that He is the only true Messiah firstly to his chosen and anointed ones. He never intended for pastors to become glorified motivational speakers without the WORKS (Miracle healing, Deliverance from evil spirits, etc.)

Examine what Christ is saying about Himself and the miraculous WORKS.
John 5:36 But I have a greater witness than that of John: for the WORKS which the Father hath given me to finish, the same WORKS that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.

What are these WORKS that Jesus always refer to ?
They are the miracles, prophecy, signs and wonders. Jesus also instructs all pastors, ministers, evangelists to do the same, He says to them, ”As my father sent me, so send I you.”