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Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by GoodMuyis(m): 3:03pm On Dec 09, 2016
Logical Understanding of Trinity (Elohim) - Establishing the Doctrine of Godhead

1 + 1 + 1 = ?

The answer to the above depends on the perspective you turn to it and the method you decide to use. If you decide to use regular arithmetic, you will get straight answer of 3.
But not all maths problem can solve using regular arithmetic. For example 1 + 1 = 10 under binary operation and our answer canNOT be 2 because we are operating under different circumstance.

1 + 1 + 1 = ?

Under Logic Operation, Just as Computer Processor will process it, the answer would not to be equal 3 but 1. Why 1 ask seun he is a programmer too, or may be thats how Logic Operation Works.

Hence I will say understand the concept of Trinity require that You use spiritual understanding the sixthsense, not your usual thinking, no you cant, even if you are a Christian You may still not understand if you dont have the Holy Spirit to bring down the revelation to you, you can do noting but to accept it by faith. Hence you cant use carnality to understand spiritual and the gateway to spiritual Christianity is the Holy Spirit.

When you have the Holy Ghost in you, then you have more than what it takes to understand it. By this time its no longer by faith but by revelation and you get the true picture of the Godhead (Elohim)

Stay Blessed and be ye filled with the Holy Ghost Maranatha

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Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by GoodMuyis(m): 3:04pm On Dec 09, 2016
In case you see many typo or blunder am feeling sleeepy, i will correct it later
Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by Seun(m): 3:22pm On Dec 09, 2016
1 + 1 + 1 = 11

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Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by felixomor: 3:42pm On Dec 09, 2016
Seun:
1 + 1 + 1 = 11

Why is it not 3 na?
Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by Seun(m): 4:37pm On Dec 09, 2016
That's base 2 arithmetic. What the OP is saying doesn't really make any sense.

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Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by Richirich713: 4:46pm On Dec 09, 2016
1 x 1 x 1 = 1

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Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by Fash20: 5:46pm On Dec 09, 2016
1+1+1 cannot give you 1 unless you manipulate it to get 1.
Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by Fash20: 5:46pm On Dec 09, 2016
Richirich713:
1 x 1 x 1 = 1
why multiplying
Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by Richirich713: 5:56pm On Dec 09, 2016
Fash20:
why multiplying

Becuz 1 + 1 + 1 implies trinitarians are claiming three Gods are one God
Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by Fash20: 6:25pm On Dec 09, 2016
Richirich713:


Becuz 1 + 1 + 1 implies trinitarians are claiming three Gods are one God

You Christians say that God the father and God the son and God the Holy Spirit is still God.

But in mathematics "and" mean addition.

Maybe the gods are not equal for instance they are 0.5,0.2&0.3

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Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by Richirich713: 6:39pm On Dec 09, 2016
Fash20:


You Christians say that God the father and God the son and God the Holy Spirit is still God.

But in mathematics "and" mean addition.

Maybe the gods are not equal for instance they are 0.5,0.2&0.3

Christians do say there's three, but by three they mean three persons, not three Gods.

Christianity subscribes to monotheism, there cannot be three Gods.
Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by GoodMuyis(m): 7:45pm On Dec 09, 2016
Seun:
That's base 2 arithmetic. What the OP is saying doesn't really make any sense.

What am saying makes millions of sense, except you do not get it.
Am referencing AND logic operation not base2 binary for the second paragraph

1 + 1 + 1 = 1



So this implies that the state of existence (1) of all the three personalities makes them Trinity,
And Their cooperative existence and agreement to one terms and rules makes them 1 (Just like IBM).

If any of them is inexistent, they cant be Trinity, but will still be one as long as the their exit among them the aforementioned unity

Shalom

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Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by shadeyinka(m): 8:50pm On Dec 09, 2016
Seun:
That's base 2 arithmetic. What the OP is saying doesn't really make any sense.

The OP is making perfect sense:
1. Base ten Arithmetic:
1+1+1=3
2. Base two Arithmetic:
1+1+1=11
3. Logical or Boolean Arithmetic:
1+1+1=1

Although, for me Trinity is best understood from the Physics point of view and not mathematics.

In Physics, we have
Wave:Particle duality of matter
Or
Mass:Energy equivalence

In simple terms, Mass and Energy are different forms of the same thing. Yet both are distinctively different in nature

Energy and Mass are different forms of the same thing.
Yet both are distinctively different in nature

Its like the more you look, the more confounded you are. Example: an electron is both a wave and a particle but a wave is distinctively different from a particle.

Trinity is duality in three dimentions.

Cc: Fash20 , GoodMuyis , Richirich713

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Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by DeepSight(m): 9:10pm On Dec 09, 2016
GoodMuyis:
Logical Understanding of Trinity (Elohim) - Establishing the Doctrine of Godhead

1 + 1 + 1 = ?

The answer to the above depends on the perspective you turn to it and the method you decide to use. If you decide to use regular arithmetic, you will get straight answer of 3.
But not all maths problem can solve using regular arithmetic. For example 1 + 1 = 10 under binary operation and our answer canNOT be 2 because we are operating under different circumstance.

1 + 1 + 1 = ?

Under Logic Operation, Just as Computer Processor will process it, the answer would not to be equal 3 but 1. Why 1 ask seun he is a programmer too, or may be thats how Logic Operation Works.

Hence I will say understand the concept of Trinity require that You use spiritual understanding the sixthsense, not your usual thinking, no you cant, even if you are a Christian You may still not understand if you dont have the Holy Spirit to bring down the revelation to you, you can do noting but to accept it by faith. Hence you cant use carnality to understand spiritual and the gateway to spiritual Christianity is the Holy Spirit.

When you have the Holy Ghost in you, then you have more than what it takes to understand it. By this time its no longer by faith but by revelation and you get the true picture of the Godhead (Elohim)

Stay Blessed and be ye filled with the Holy Ghost Maranatha

SHATTAPPP!!!!!
Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by GoodMuyis(m): 9:11pm On Dec 09, 2016
DeepSight:

SHATTAPPP!!!!!
Not surprise, but expected
Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by DeepSight(m): 9:12pm On Dec 09, 2016
Richirich713:


Christians do say there's three, but by three they mean three persons, not three Gods.

Christianity subscribes to monotheism, there cannot be three Gods.

Christianity is Polytheistic. It is as polytheistic as can get.
Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by mrmrmister: 9:17pm On Dec 09, 2016
grin grin
I derive so much amusement from watching you guys trying really hard to justify your religious ish .

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Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by DeepSight(m): 9:32pm On Dec 09, 2016
GoodMuyis:


Not surprise, but expected
I said SHATTAAAPPPPP!!!
Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by Fash20: 9:42pm On Dec 09, 2016
shadeyinka:


The OP is making perfect sense:
1. Base ten Arithmetic:
1+1+1=3
2. Base two Arithmetic:
1+1+1=11
3. Logical or Boolean Arithmetic:
1+1+1=1

Although, for me Trinity is best understood from the Physics point of view and not mathematics.

In Physics, we have
Wave:Particle duality of matter
Or
Mass:Energy equivalence

In simple terms, Mass and Energy are different forms of the same thing. Yet both are distinctively different in nature

Energy and Mass are different forms of the same thing.
Yet both are distinctively different in nature

Its like the more you look, the more confounded you are. Example: an electron is both a wave and a particle but a wave is distinctively different from a particle.

Trinity is duality in three dimentions.

Cc: Fash20 , GoodMuyis , Richirich713

Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by shadeyinka(m): 9:47pm On Dec 09, 2016
Fash20:


Confused?
Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by shadeyinka(m): 9:52pm On Dec 09, 2016
DeepSight:


SHATTAPPP!!!!!

Weti he do you na!
Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by KingEbukaNaija: 10:00pm On Dec 09, 2016
shadeyinka:




Trinity is duality in three dimentions.

Cc: Fash20 , GoodMuyis , Richirich713


God's nature is at least 9 dimensions

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Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by ambassagod: 10:03pm On Dec 09, 2016
shadeyinka:

Weti he do you na!
he was pained
Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by GoodMuyis(m): 10:10pm On Dec 09, 2016
DeepSight:

I said SHATTAAAPPPPP!!!

hmmm

Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by Fash20: 10:11pm On Dec 09, 2016
shadeyinka:

Confused?

Not confused at all.
Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by DeepSight(m): 10:54pm On Dec 09, 2016
shadeyinka:


Weti he do you na!

Posting brain-dead inanities based on useless pagan fairy-tales he received from his white colonial master.

1 + 1 + 1 = Spiritual Idiocy and mental inferiority indeed.

Olodo rabata, useless mumu. Follow-Follow Zombie.

Clear-out of town!

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Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by Richirich713: 5:18am On Dec 10, 2016
DeepSight:


Christianity is Polytheistic. It is as polytheistic as can get.

Not true, the trinity is one God co-existing as three persons. Monotheism is not Unitarianism. Monotheism is the doctrine or belief that there is one being who is God. Unitarianism is the belief that God is one person.

Trinitarians believe there is one God(making them monotheists), they just don't agree with unitarians who say God is one person.
Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by DeepSight(m): 5:40am On Dec 10, 2016
Richirich713:


Not true, the trinity is one God co-existing as three persons. Monotheism is not Unitarianism. Monotheism is the doctrine or belief that there is one being who is God. Unitarianism is the belief that God is one person.

Trinitarians believe there is one God(making them monotheists), they just don't agree with unitarians who say God is one person.

Stop talking arrant nonsense. Listen to yourself. One being and yet three persons? How is that monotheistic? This is like marrying three wives and claiming that since they are all one in matrimony with you, then you are a monogamist.

Any religion which speaks of three persons as its deity is not monotheistic. Period.

Mono means single. The Trinity espouses three persons. This is not monotheism no matter how hard trinitarians try to force it to be.

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Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by Richirich713: 5:45am On Dec 10, 2016
DeepSight:


Stop talking arrant nonsense. Any religion which speaks of three persons as its deity is not monotheistic. Period.

That's on ur definition on monotheism, you've added
Unitarianism to the definition of monotheism.
Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by DeepSight(m): 5:50am On Dec 10, 2016
Richirich713:


That's on ur definition on monotheism, you've added
Unitarianism to the definition of monotheism.

No i have not.

Mono means single. The trinity espouses three distinct persons. They even have different wills as shown by the prayer in Gethsrmane.

In fact it is declared that the son is not omniscient but only the father is. This shows different persons.

No way this is monotheism.

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Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by Richirich713: 6:01am On Dec 10, 2016
DeepSight:


No i have not.

Mono means single. The trinity espouses three distinct persons. They even have different wills as shown by the prayer in Gethsrmane.

In fact it is declared that the son is not omniscient but only the father is. This shows different persons.

No way this is monotheism.

Monotheism means one God, not one person (Unitarianism), you adding that part.

We can get to wat the bible teaches later, first show me how the basic trinitarian position that there is one God and God is three co-existing eternal persons is not monotheism (the doctrine or belief that there is one being who is God).
Re: Logical Understanding Of Trinity (elohim) - Establishing The Doctrine Of Godhead by Lush100(m): 6:38am On Dec 10, 2016
hello folks,
the way I understand the Trinity is the same for water.
water can be in 3 states & because ifw thus states exhibit different characteristics.
water - solid state called ice
water liquid state - called water
water in gases called steam/vapour


God ask King: God Almighty
God as saviour- Jesus
God as comforter/,helper -,Holy ghost/,Spirit.


I hope u know there are some thing that ice can do and water will not and steam can do and water will not (e .g steam engine etc).

read the Bible more u will understand.

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