NEWISSUES, Abuja

“We will write this for all to read. Anyone, soldier or not, that kills the Fulani takes a loan repayable one day no matter how long it takes” – Mallam Nasir El Rufai, 2012.

I will never forget these words. How I wish that my friend and brother, Governor Nasir El Rufai, expressed the same level of angst, cold rage, chilling resolve and passion for vengeance after the murder of millions of defenceless and innocent non-Fulanis, including women and children, in his own Kaduna state and indeed all over the country since the coming to power of the Buhari regime one year and seven months ago.

How I wish that he could have learnt a lesson or two from other Nigerian leaders of Fulani extraction who are far more restrained, mature, experienced, knowledgeable and responsible than him like Vice President Atiku Abubakar, Senator Ahmed Makarfi, Hon. Minister Kabiru Turaki, Hon. Minister Hadi Sirika, Governor Sule Lamido, Col. Abubakar Dangiwa Umar, General Aliyu Gusau and countless others that careless and ill-advised assertions, vicious threats and a lack of decorum and restraint have no place in public discourse and could lead to unimaginable consequences including the loss of innocent lives. After all, we are ALL Nigerians.

Given the circumstances I am constrained to write the following for all to see: the spilling of innocent blood in the name of vengeance, religion, ethnicity or anything else is expensive and it comes with a heavy price.

Those who willfully shed it will face the consequences of their actions. They will pay a heavy price from generation to generation both in this world and in the world to come.

Given all the horror stories of murder and butchery that we hear about in Kaduna state today things have certainly got out of hand and every Nigerian, whether they be Christian or Muslim, ought to be deeply concerned.

Such is the carnage and wasting of innocent lives that I cannot but support the columnist Sam Omatseye’s call on Christians in southern Kaduna to rise up and use all lawful means to defend themselves from what can, to all intents and purposes, only be described as genocide.

I also support the appeal to the Christian Association of Nigeria to use all lawful means to assist and support them and I commend the gallantry and resilience of the Southern Kaduna’s People Union (SOKAPU) who have consistently spoken out and resisted the evil that the good people of southern Kaduna have been subjected to over the years.

I also commend the efforts of men like Bishop Matthew Hassan Kukah, Pastor Temitope Joshua, Apostle Suleiman and numerous others who have consistently urged restraint when it comes to such matters but who, at the same time, have always insisted on justice and equity for the oppressed, the poor, the weak, the vulnerable and the deprived.

For as Thomas Jefferson, one of the great founding fathers of the United States of America once said, “when injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty”.

Self-defence, like self-determination, is a fundamental and inalienable human right and those that take pleasure in mass murder and carnage must be resisted and stopped.

Those that kill, maim and destroy their fellow human beings and compatriots in the name of ethnic and religious hegemony and under the guise of cattle-rearing and herding cows must be brought to justice.

When the International Global Index identified a group that they described as the “Fulani militants” and “herdsmen of Nigeria” as the “fourth most deadly terrorist organisation in the world” the international community was shocked and many world leaders expressed their concern and outrage.

It was only in Nigeria that we took it in our stride and that people found it difficult to comprehend the implications or appreciate the dangers and complexity of the challenge that we were faced with.

It was also only in Nigeria that the government brushed the matter under the carpet and refused to disarm the murderous terrorists or even condemn their actions.

It was only in Nigeria that everyone hid under their beds and ran for cover and refused to say it as it is even though they all knew the truth.

It was only in Nigeria that the blood and the lives of the numerous victims of the supporter of APC-style marauders and murderers were regarded as being less precious and less sacred than the blood of their tormentors and killers.

The fact of the matter is that this is a major issue and a collective challenge. This fight is beyond politics: it is an ancient struggle which is being fought in pursuance of an ancient cause.

Worst still it has an international and global dimension. Simply put, it is essentially about the supression and systematic destruction and humiliation of the so-called “lesser peoples” and supposedly “inferior ethnic nationalities” of the hybrid mega-nation called Nigeria.

It is about the enslavement, the breaking of the will, the total subjugation and the complete annihilation of an entire people and various ethnic nationalities within that mega-nation.

It is about the forced aquisition of the land, culture, destiny and souls of others, ethnic and religious domination and good old-fashioned conquest.

That is the monuemental challenge that we are faced with in Nigeria today by those that covertly commissioned and armed the herdsmen and that are using them to do a dirty job.

Yet few wish to admit let alone discuss, hear or publish such bitter truths in our country. And those of us that are willing to do so are insulted, attacked, maligned, persecuted, threatened, ostracised and labellled as rebels and dissidents simply because we have cultivated the strength and courage to identify the problem, speak the truth and stand up for the weak and the oppressed.

The tyrant forgets that truth and timely counsel is worth its weight in gold. He forgets that it is better to have an honest and vocal opposition than to have a false friend.

He forgets that he either controls those in his inner circle and his numerous courtiers, security chiefs, Ministers and advisors or they will end up controlling him and pushing him to fatal error.

We his subjects try our best to keep quite and ignore the commission of atrocities that we see in our nation every day by his security forces and his blood-thirsty and blood-curdling kinsmen that have constituted themselves into a well-armed reserve army and a formidable and murderous ethnic militia.

Instead of speaking out boldly and loudly or protesting in the streets we choose to keep the peace and stay at home and pray.

Yet, unabated, the horror show simply goes on and on. The nightmare continues to unfold and the black flag of death, destruction and carnage is hoisted higher every day.

No-one is spared in this bloodfest of terror and butchery. Today it is the defiant Biafrans and the good people of the south-east that are being shot, slaughtered, tormented and “cut to pieces” and tomorrow it is the good people of Agatu and the Middle Belt or the residents and farmers of the south-west and the Niger Delta.

And in all this our response is nothing but fear, trepidation and weakness. Our collective resolve to stand against evil has long been broken.

We continue to bite the bullet, take the pain, reign in our rage, maintain our stoic and cowardly silence and encourage those that seek to avenge their loved ones and kinsmen to do nothing, to remain calm and to leave it all to God.

Yet there are some things that are beyond the pale and that cannot be ignored. When those that are charged with the responsibility of protecting us and bringing those that kill our kith and kin to justice are complicit in the barborous actions of the terrorists we cannot remain silent. And if we do God Himself will judge us.

When a sitting Governor like Nasir El Rufai can boldly and openly say “tell them (meaning the terrorising and murderering Fulani militants and herdsmen) that the governor is a Fulani like them and give them this money” you are encouraging murder and empowering murderers.

When you talk like that you are provoking the sensitivities and rage of every non-Fulani in your state and in the entire nation.

When you say such a thing you are rubbing raw salt in a fresh wound and you are plunging a sharp and long butchers knife deep into the hearts of the loved ones of all those that were murdered and mutilated in your state and elsewhere by those barbaric killers that you have described as your kinsmen and friends.

When you speak so callously and with such insensitivity you are murdering and butchering the murdered and burchered victims all over again, rubbishing their memory, insulting their families and pissing on their graves.

When you say that you have paid your Fulani brothers and kinsmen from Chad, the Niger Republic, Mali, Senegal, the Camerouns and God knows where else money to stop them from coming to our country and your state to kill our Christian brothers and sisters in southern Kaduna instead of bringing them to justice for shedding innocent blood it means that you are a murderer as well.

When you talk like that it means that you are what is known as an “enabler” or as an “accessory after the fact” in law and you are nothing but an accomplice to and friend, sponsor and sympathiser of mass murderers.

It means that you are not just a murderer but you are also a genocidal maniac. Worse of all you know very well that the money that you have publicly admitted to giving them will be used to buy more deadly weapons and ammunition which will then be used to slaughter, maim, kidnap and terrorise even more innocent and defenceless people from your constituency and elsewhere in Nigeria.

If it is not Shiite Muslims that are being killed in Kaduna today it is our brothers and sisters in southern Kaduna. Not only are they massacred but they are also buried in unmarked mass and shallow graves where pigs feed off their carcasses and decaying flesh.

How wicked and heartless can we be to one another? Where is the milk of human kindness? Where is compassion and mercy? Where is justice, succour and protection for the poor, the deprived, the unconnected and the needy?

For God sake the killing must stop. I implore you in the name of God to use your powerful office to defend the oppressed and to protect the voiceless in your state and not to encourage or support the predators who feed on human flesh and who take pleasure in the destruction, suffering and misery of others.

Those that bathe in the blood of the innocents and that delight in indulging in cruelty and crushing the bones of the weak may have today but tomorrow belongs to us.

As the leader of the American-based Nation of Islam movement, the respected Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan, once said,

“God is on the side of the weak, the oppressed. God is never in favor of the tyrant! And fighting against tyranny really is obedience to God. So God will have His way, no matter what the jury or government does. But if they are wicked enough to deny these families justice, then God will answer—and I fear the terrible nature of His chastisement. Be warned”.

For those that are in power today in Kaduna and Nigeria a word is enough for the wise. Our God is alive and He rules in the affairs of men. Vengeance belongs to Him: He will repay.

Permit me to conclude the first part of this write up with the words of Senator La’ah who represents the people of southern Kaduna in the Senate.

In a statement he issued to newsmen on Wednesday 4th December the Senator asserted that Governor El-Rufai has been able to identify the killers and their locations.

He added, “This will lead to their sponsors in Nigeria and other places. Nigeria should then use its diplomatic relationship and extradite these murderers of its citizens, plunders and arsonists to face justice in Nigeria.

“After Governor El-Rufai’s term in office, it should be possible to prosecute him for being an accessory to mass murder, since he has refused to reveal these findings to the rightful authority for actions to stop the evil that is spreading to many states today.

“This is from the outcome of Newspapers’ and online captions quoting governor El -Rufai as saying that he has had to trace some of the murderous Fulani herdsmen that have been killing defenceless innocent Southern Kaduna natives and destroying their villages, the news sources said that after tracing them, he told them that he was also a Fulani man and paid them sums of money to stop the massacre, burning and tearing down of scores of communities in Southern Kaduna.

“That not done with, the Governor also uttered a very bizarre threat that he has compiled for arrest and prosecution, names of persons asking the people of Southern Kaduna to defend themselves against the obvious inability of the Chief Security Officer of the state – Governor Nasir El-Rufai – to secure their lives and property and save them the trauma of being under perpetual fear of further unprovoked violence.

“Knowing how swiftly he reacts to any untoward issue unfairly thrown at him in the media, I have waited for days to hear or read a rebuttal from him but to no avail.

“This therefore confirms these unfortunate utterances as truly that of the governor of Kaduna State, Mallam Nasir el-Rufai.

“I wish to state that these statements are not only unfortunate, callous, insensitive, crude and demeaning of his office and intelligence, it throws him up as a bigot and hater of Southern Kaduna and we are holding him as an accomplice in the ongoing genocide in Southern Kaduna.” (TO BE CONTINUED).
http://www.newissuesmagazine.com/2016/12/nasir-el-rufai-and-the-bloodfest-in-southern-kaduna-part-1-by-femi-fani-kayode/

Cool facts

Tell them Ffk. el-rufai has been paying the herdsmen he can as well give our security agents leads to where the murderous herdsmen are since he knows there where about!

This man Sabi write long epistles shaa..

Hmmm

This El-rufai guy is a devil incarnate sha

First time liking FFKs' epistle. This is well written.

Yeah its only in Nigeria a Christian President Ayo through the then NG President illegally purchase arms with a huge some of raw money (despite the cashless policy) in conjugation of an israeli foreigner to support terrorism.

This money meant to purchase the arms where carried in Christian jet not Nigerian Airforce. South Africa have no knowledge of the so called arm purchase at the time Nigeria is battling with Insurgency.

Only for the President to shamelessly defend and swept the case under the carpet

It was only in Nigeria that the blood and the lives of the numerous victims of the supporter of APC-style marauders and murderers were regarded as being less precious ...

Seun your continuous censorship is getting childish!

"Supporter of APC" is meant to be Janjawiid - the horse mounted Sudanese Arab terrorist militia responsible for the Darfur genocide of black Africans in Sudan but since Oliseh Metuh described the APC as "janjawiid" you decided in your own myopic wisdom to censor the term that has since entered modern vocabulary.

Grow up already!

FriendChoice:
Yeah its only in Nigeria a Christian President Ayo through the then NG President illegally purchase arms with a huge some of raw money (despite the cashless policy) in conjugation of an israeli foreigner to support terrorism.

This money meant to purchase the arms where carried in Christian jet not Nigerian Airforce. South Africa have no knowledge of the so called arm purchase at the time Nigeria is battling with Insurgency.

Only for the President to shamelessly defend and swept the case under the carpet

Broh you can create your own thread to discuss such issues, are you also gonna blame GEJ for what is happenening in Kaduna?
The way some Nigerians use almighty formula to link everything back to GEJ would give one the impression that they are actually smart, actually they are clever by half.
Your post is akin to setting your own question in the exam hall, how smart is that?

Rilwayne001:
This El-rufai guy is a devil incarnate sha

First time liking FFKs' epistle. This is well written.

Are you not aware that the change agents where you belong are already pushing El-rufai as the next messiah after the dullard in Aso ROck?

Hell Rufai is a sadistic son of Lucifer ----Zombies can quote me anywhere

FriendChoice:
Yeah its only in Nigeria a Christian President Ayo through the then NG President illegally purchase arms with a huge some of raw money (despite the cashless policy) in conjugation of an israeli foreigner to support terrorism.

This money meant to purchase the arms where carried in Christian jet not Nigerian Airforce. South Africa have no knowledge of the so called arm purchase at the time Nigeria is battling with Insurgency.

Only for the President to shamelessly defend and swept the case under the carpet

Bro, how does this concern this thread

thank you FFK you have hit the nail on the head. you hit it so hard that it has opened many can of worms and we begin to understand why boko haram has refuse to die.

But why is God's judgement so slow. This is not a question.

Rilwayne001:


Bro, how does this concern this thread

If you read carefully he was listing some points: Its only in Nigeria... Its only in Nigeria.. etc

Then I help him complete it. Or what I wrote is false?

FriendChoice:


If you read carefully he was listing some points: Its only in Nigeria... Its only in Nigeria.. etc

Yeah indeed! I hope you agree with all the points he raised because to me they are all poignant points, what are they to you?

Then I help him complete it. Or what I wrote is false?

Not really, but i quite don't agree with this: " in conjugation of an israeli foreigner to support terrorism." particularly the bolded, perhaps you have a cogent proof to show for it.

Rilwayne001:


Yeah indeed! I hope you agree with all the points he raised because to me they are all poignant points, what are they to you?



Not really, but i quite don't agree with this: " in conjugation of an israeli foreigner to support terrorism." particularly the bolded, perhaps you have a cogent proof to show for it.

Concerning believing in what he said: am yet to verify his claims.

Its illegal business one, 2 it involves Christian. 3South Africa was not aware. 4. the jet never take up with authorized details of airport / air force.

4. Boko Haram claim politician are supporting them.

5. Rather than investigating the act of supporting the terror, gej defend the arms deal. Assuming it involves sultan the whole world will be on fire. You southners will and said sultan is sponsoring terror.

Now it involves one of your own, u swept it under the mat.

When the issue was rise by Hon Kawu Sumaila a Christian cancel it. Says it wount be discussed.

http://dailypost.ng/2015/07/13/most-boko-haram-members-are-christians-report/



http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/168179-two-nigerians-israeli-caught-in-south-africa-for-smuggling-about-us10-million-to-buy-arms.html

FriendChoice:


Concerning believing in what he said: am yet to verify his claims.

Okay. But i will like to hear your views concerning the write up.

Its illegal business one, two it involves Christian two. South Africa was not aware. Three the jet never take up with authorized details of airport / air force.When the issue was rise by Hon Kawu Sumaila a Christian cancel it. Says it wount be discussed.
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/168179-two-nigerians-israeli-caught-in-south-africa-for-smuggling-about-us10-million-to-buy-arms.html

It was illegally done indeed but i don't see any correlation of it supporting terrorism. We all know the US refused to sell arms and ammunition for us to fight Boko haram back then, and so the desperation was so much that we had to get arm by any means. So to me, it's wasn't meant to empower terrorism rather to battle it. Come to think of it, why would he be empowering boko haram owing to the fact that they were the one destabilizing his government, infact one of the major reason why he was booted out of Aso rock?

I dont ever kend my senses to the counsel of hatemongers like ffk. It takes just a moment of reading one of his vitriolic releases for one's mind to become twisted beyond salvation.

Ffk is neither a Christian nor a Muslim, but a fanatical demagog who capitalises on the significant ignorance of the average Nigerian to launder his image and galvanise his political support base.

It is only a matter of time before his folly finds him out.

Rilwayne001:


Okay. But i will like to hear your views concerning the write up.



It was illegally done indeed but i don't see any correlation of it supporting terrorism. We all know the US refused to sell arms and ammunition for us to fight Boko haram back then, and so the desperation was so much that we had to get arm by any means. So to me, it's wasn't meant to empower terrorism rather to battle it. Come to think of it, why would he be empowering boko haram owing to the fact that they were the one destabilizing his government, infact one of the major reason why he was booted out of Aso rock?

I have modified it. It will be kind if you modified this reply

FriendChoice:

Concerning believing in what he said: am yet to verify his claims.

Its illegal business one, 2 it involves Christian. 3South Africa was not aware. 4. the jet never take up with authorized details of airport / air force.

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4. Boko Haram claim politician are supporting them.

Where and who and who did they mention? Don't forget they once wanted Buhari to involve in their peace talk with the Nigerian government, does that mean they had ties with Buhari?

5. Rather than investigating the act of supporting the terror, gej defend the arms deal.

The arms deal — as i have explained up there — is logical even though it was not done legally, however we can't bemoan the fact that the Nigerian Army were running out of arms and ammunition and the need for more is warranted. Whereas the US refused to sell to us and so we had to get it by whatever means. Saying it was meant to empower terrorist is unfounded.

Assuming it involves sultan the whole world will be on fire. You southners will and said sultan is sponsoring terror.

Lol, seriously if it had been the Sultan, i would say the same thing. If it's for the betterment of the country, then why not?

Tell me, what steps did the sultan take to help GEJ fight boko haram during his tenure?

Now it involves one of your own, u swept it under the mat.

None of them is my own as I'm neither a nigerdeltan nor am i a Christian. The truth is, we just have to be objective in whatever we are doing. How you evaded the points FFK laid down regarding El-rufai obnoxious attitude eludes me yet bringing up what doesn't have to do with the thread, when i asked about your views of the topic of the thread, you said you haven't really gone through it. How come you haven't when it is something that is going on daily in the country. Be truthful with yourself dear brother:

‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘You must be truthful, for truthfulness leads to righteousness and righteousness leads to Paradise. A man will keep speaking the truth and striving to speak the truth until he will be recorded with Allaah as a siddeeq (speaker of the truth). Beware of telling lies, for lying leads to immorality and immorality leads to Hellfire. A man will keep telling lies and striving to tell lies until he is recorded with Allaah as a liar.” (Reported by Muslim, 4721)

Read the thread and tell me your views on the points FFK raised.

When the issue was rise by Hon Kawu Sumaila a Christian cancel it. Says it wount be discussed.http://dailypost.ng/2015/07/13/most-boko-haram-members-are-christians-report/
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/168179-two-nigerians-israeli-caught-in-south-africa-for-smuggling-about-us10-million-to-buy-arms.html

How many Christians were among those declared wanted by the Nigerian Army and how many of them have Buhari being able to uncovered since he assumed office?

Rilwayne001:

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Where and who and who did they mention? Don't forget they once wanted Buhari to involve in their peace talk with the Nigerian government, does that mean they had ties with Buhari?

They said some politician are supporting them. It might be anybody.

The arms deal — as i have explained up there — is logical even though it was not done legally, however we can't bemoan the fact that the Nigerian Army were running out of arms and ammunition and the need for more is warranted. Whereas the US refused to sell to us and so we had to get it by whatever means. Saying it was meant to empower terrorist is unfounded.

its illogical. Has US sale jets and ammunition to Nigeria today? Has Nigeria go for illegality? Upon all countries, is US the only 1? is Nigeria enemy to all countries except US? Are we not buying equipment from Pakistan, Russia today?

Lol, seriously if it had been the Sultan, i would say the same thing. If it's for the betterment of the country, then why not?

But when it's Christian president (CAN) you're mute.

Tell me, what steps did the sultan take to help GEJ fight boko haram during his tenure?

Tell me how does he support them? Did he use his jet to get them weapons.

None of them is my own as I'm neither a nigerdeltan nor am i a Christian. The truth is, we just have to be objective in whatever we are doing. How you evaded the points FFK laid down regarding El-rufai obnoxious attitude eludes me yet bringing up what doesn't have to do with the thread, when i asked about your views of the topic of the thread, you said you haven't really gone through it. How come you haven't when it is something that is going on daily in the country. Be truthful with yourself dear brother:

There are your own. You're a southerner. Am not talking of SW, SE, or SS. I did not mention religion in that regard.

I have read it and that's what I told u is, Ihave not verify

‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘You must be truthful, for truthfulness leads to righteousness and righteousness leads to Paradise. A man will keep speaking the truth and striving to speak the truth until he will be recorded with Allaah as a siddeeq (speaker of the truth). Beware of telling lies, for lying leads to immorality and immorality leads to Hellfire. A man will keep telling lies and striving to tell lies until he is recorded with Allaah as a liar.” (Reported by Muslim, 4721)

Read the thread and tell me your views on the points FFK raised.

FFK is a dog when you give him bones thats all. This is what Allah says


O you who have believed, if there comes to you a disobedient one with information, investigate, lest you harm a people out of ignorance and become, over what you have done, regretful.


O ye who believe! If a wicked person comes to you with any news, ascertain the truth, lest ye harm people unwittingly, and afterwards become full of repentance for what ye have done. [Quran 49:6]

I need to verify the claim of FFK, he is a great lair. He lies even on reality.

How many Christians were among those declared wanted by the Nigerian Army and how many of them have Buhari being able to uncovered since he assumed office?

Those declared are only top members. Again Buhari is interested in bringing anyone sponsoring terrorism regardless of religion. I don't know them and their religion. Army when establishing the pictures did not categorically state their religions

The game is not over yet.

- http://www.dailyafricagist.com

FriendChoice:


They said some politician are supporting them. It might be anybody.

I asked where did they make that claim and who and who did they mention? Don't you think the fact that they mentioned no one make it liable that they really have no one supporting them in government back then? And like i said earlier on, why would any of Gej government support them owing to the fact that they were destabilising his government?

its illogical. Has US sale jets and ammunition to Nigeria today?

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/202985-u-s-seeks-sell-12-attack-aircraft-nigeria-boko-haram-fight.html

And aside that, most weapons been used today by NA were bought by GEJ administration. Don't forget Russian later sold some arms and ammunitions for us.

Has Nigeria go for illegality?

No, but we are partially on Jonathan legacy as regards arms and ammunition for the NA.

Upon all countries, is US the only 1? is Nigeria enemy to all countries except US? Are we not buying equipment from Pakistan, Russia today?

We needed it urgently back then and US are in the best position to provide it urgently.

But when it's Christian president (CAN) you're mute.

No, i am not mute. I applaud them because i feel the objective was to combat book haram and not to enforce that as you are trying to make it seem.

Tell me how does he support them? Did he use his jet to get them weapons.

I asked how did he support the government in fighting them. Being a notable figure is the country and especially being the head of the Muslim community and the country when actually the issue concerns us more, his support is very necessary. So i asked again, how did he support the fight against terrorism during GEJ era?

There are your own. You're a southerner. Am not talking of SW, SE, or SS. I did not mention religion in that regard.

Well, you are right, we are all human being and they are our own including yours too. Ethnically they are not yoruba that i am and religiously they are not Muslim that i am, but that doesn't mean i should suppress to truth because we are different in some certain way.

I have read it and that's what I told u is, Ihave not verify

Alright, verify it and let me hear your view.

FFK is a dog when you give him bones thats all. This is what Allah says

I'm not disputing FFK being a dog, but we can't always discard things we perceive to be truth.

O you who have believed, if there comes to you a disobedient one with information, investigate, lest you harm a people out of ignorance and become, over what you have done, regretful.

Indeed!!!

O ye who believe! If a wicked person comes to you with any news, ascertain the truth, lest ye harm people unwittingly, and afterwards become full of repentance for what ye have done. [Quran 49:6]

As you can see, this verse didn't tell us to discard the wicked's opinion, rather we should listen carefully and ascertain the truth thereof. So kindly read up this thread and tell us your opinion on it.

I need to verify the claim of FFK, he is a great lair. He lies even on reality.

I'm aware of this as well.

Those declared are only top members.

Yes, but i notice they are virtually northerners and 90% of all being a Muslim (even though they have deviated from the truth) and not Christians as you are trying to make it look.

Again Buhari is interested in bringing anyone sponsoring terrorism regardless of religion.

How many of those that are sponsoring it has he uncovered? And don't you think he's sponsoring them by paying them ransom and freeing some of their top leaders (caught by Jonathan) in exchange for the Chibok girls?

I don't know them and their religion. Army when establishing the pictures did not categorically state their religions

But we can always judge by their names. Or have you ever seen an Ipod citizen answering UMORU GAMBO? (just and example)

Rilwayne001:


I asked where did they make that claim and who and who did they mention? Don't you think the fact that they mentioned no one make it liable that they really have no one supporting them in government back then? And like i said earlier on, why would any of Gej government support them owing to the fact that they were destabilising his government?

They make the claim to Mama Boko Haram (A recently released on bail journalist)

The reason is simple they prolonged the war on boko Haram to remain in power. They have the money they looted it. They sponsored state of emergency in North. When it expire prior to the election they sponsored another extension by 6 month so that election will not hold, because they will claim Nigeria is in the state of war. When Northern legislatures threw the state of emergency extension. They decided to win back hearts of some northerner by extending the 2015 election by 6 weeks to deal with Boko Haram, to which a huge success is recorded, that for the past 5 years of insurgency its the best success then. Hypocrisy is what has not been achieved in five years is now achievable in 6 weeks.

Again Boko Haram is destabilizing your government but u fold your arms when the money is being looted. When he was asked by CNN he said

" Information is that I was not in charge "

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/202985-u-s-seeks-sell-12-attack-aircraft-nigeria-boko-haram-fight.html

And aside that, most weapons been used today by NA were bought by GEJ administration. Don't forget Russian later sold some arms and ammunitions for us.

Us did not sell any weapon to Nigeria. The link above.
Are Us and Russia the only place on earth we can get weapons?

We needed it urgently back then and US are in the best position to provide it urgently.

Which best position? No. Did they sale it? No.
Us is the only best country on the face of the earth to purchase weapons from at that time? Like seriously.

No, i am not mute. I applaud them because i feel the objective was to combat book haram and not to enforce that as you are trying to make it seem.

You trust them and you don't trust Sultan. If its sultan you will Bash him because he has history of supporting terrorism? Because North is born with terror?

You will not applaud him for helping Nigeria just as u claim when it comes to CAN.

South = Good Intention (I trust them they will not do bad despite the wrong.

North = Bad intention (This people are buying weapons for their Boko boys to continue killing)

I asked how did he support the government in fighting them. Being a notable figure is the country and especially being the head of the Muslim community and the country when actually the issue concerns us more, his support is very necessary. So i asked again, how did he support the fight against terrorism during GEJ era?

That not my original post on it. I ask how did he support terror? None.

At least he has said these people are not Muslim and Islam does not teach terror. Or you want him to take gun fight Boko Haram

How did CAN help by supplying arms ?

Why is it hidden, let them come out and explain what happen. Some Christian disown him (Ayo) 4 that, but a Muslim like u is here applauding.

If your hands are clean, why not explain to the world on what happen concerning the arm purchase deal.

When a motion was raised on the floor of the national assembly about the caught jet in south Africa, the motion was cancelled. The response is- It wount be discussed.

Go and find out the punishment for Money laundering.

Well, you are right, we are all human being and they are our own including yours too. Ethnically they are not yoruba that i am and religiously they are not Muslim that i am, but that doesn't mean i should suppress to truth because we are different in some certain way.

My point is you're all southerners.

You're already suppressing the truths. Why? You're defending purchase of arms by Ayo all in the name of helping 2 fight terror.

But u said if its sultan u will do the opposite. why? He is not a southerner. And thats how most of southerners behave except few. They can stab their fellow Muslim brothers of a different group, region or ethnicity just to support lies for one of their own tribe or region.

I have live with Yoruba Muslim and Non Muslims different people for years. Also Igbo, I know this attitude (Not all of them but most of them.)

Alright, verify it and let me hear your view.

Not now. I have to get time for that.

I'm not disputing FFK being a dog, but we can't always discard things we perceive to be truth.

Point out where I discard the Truth?

As you can see, this verse didn't tell us to discard the wicked's opinion, rather we should listen carefully and ascertain the truth thereof. So kindly read up this thread and tell us your opinion on it.

Go back to my previous post. I have to verify first that was my response.

Yes, but i notice they are virtually northerners and 90% of all being a Muslim (even though they have deviated from the truth) and not Christians as you are trying to make it look.

No sir. I did not say they are Christians. Some I said.

How many of those that are sponsoring it has he uncovered? And don't you think he's sponsoring them by paying them ransom and freeing some of their top leaders (caught by Jonathan) in exchange for the Chibok girls?

Provide evidence he paid ransom or exchange them with prisoners. (A genuine one).

So you mean it's only Jonathan that arrest Boko Haram members and Buhari did not? Alright list the ones Jonathan arrested and Buhari released them.

But we can always judge by their names. Or have you ever seen an Ipod citizen answering UMORU GAMBO? (just and example)

https://www.nairaland.com/968413/list-suspected-christian-boko-haram


2- 8 COCIN members arrested with explosive
devises at Miya Barkatai branch of the church.
3- Lydia Joseph arrested with explosive devise in
Bauchi
4- Emmanuel King arrested while disguised as a
Muslim and attempting to bomb Redeemed
Christian Church Yenogoa.
5- Madam Ruth attempted bombing ECWA Church
in Kalarin area of Gombe.
6- Mr Alex Danladi involved in COCIN HQ bombing
was lynched by worshipers. He was a church
member disguised in military uniform..

FriendChoice:


They make the claim to Mama Boko Haram (A recently released on bail journalist)

Who's she and how did she gain access to such info? Don't you think it sound more like a conspiracy? The fact that they didn't come out to say such a thing in public makes this baseless.

The reason is simple they prolonged the war on boko Haram to remain in power.

Lol, how?

They have the money they looted it. They sponsored state of emergency in North. When it expire prior to the election they sponsored another extension by 6 month so that election will not hold, because they will claim Nigeria is in the state of war. When Northern legislature threw the state of emergency extension. They decided to win back hearts of some northerner by extending the 2015 election by 6 weeks to deal with Boko Haram, to which a huge success is recorded, that for the past 5 years of insurgency its the best success then. Hypocrisy is what has not been achieved in five years is now achievable in 6 weeks.

Okay

Again Boko Haram is destabilizing your government but u fold your arms when the money is being looted. When he was asked by CNN he said

[b] " Information is that I was not in charge "

We all know he was ineffectual. His minister were the ones that makes most of the decision and not him. This doesn't mean that his aim was to empower book haram.

Us did not sell any weapon to Nigeria. The link above.
Are Us and Russia the only place on earth we can get weapons?
Which best position? No. Did they sale it? No.
Us is the only best country on the face of the earth to purchase weapons from at that time? Like seriously.

I said it was a matter on urgency and they are in the best position to provide it URGENTLY owing to the ties between us.

You trust them and you don't trust Sultan.

I never said i don't trust sultan. Don't put words in my mouth bro.

If its sultan you will Bash him because he has history of supporting terrorism? Because North is born with terror?

Why would i bash him? Supporting the government is a must for every citizen.

You will not applaud him for helping Nigeria just as u claim when it comes to CAN.

Kindly point out where i said i will not applaud him for supporting and helping the government. You are quite getting me wrong bro.

South = Good Intention (I trust them they will not do bad despite the wrong.North = Bad intention (This people are buying weapons for their Boko boys to continue killing)

All these are your thoughts and not reality.

That not my original post on it. I ask how did he support terror? None. At least he has said these people are not Muslim and Islam does not teach terror.

Saying book harams are not Muslims is not enough in curbing the whole issue, rather enlightening the ignorant ones on the tenets of Islam and what it stands for. Providing basic education for the young ones so that they won't grow up jobless to the point where some people will have the opportunity to brainwash and use them for their evil aim.

How did CAN help by supplying arms ?

No. CAN weren't even the owner of the jet rather their president who is the right man of jonathan back then.

Why is it hidden, let them come out and explain what happen. Some Christian disown him 4 that, but a Muslim like u is here applauding.

Loooooool all i sha know is that, his intention is not to empower boko haram rather to fight them. If you have a contrary view of it, kindly state it now.

If your hands are clean, why not explain to the world. When motion was raised about the details of that arms, the motion was cancelled. The response is- It wount be discussed.
Go and find out the punishment for Money laundering.

My point is you're all southerners.

Yes.

You're already suppressing the truths. Why? You're defending purchase of arms that Ayo want 2help fight terror. But u said if its sultan u will do the opposite. why? he is not a southerner. And thats how most of southerners behave except few. They can stab there fellow Muslim brother of a different group, region or ethnicity just to support lies for one of their own tribe or region.

You've gotten me all wrong. I didn't say the bolded abegg!

I have live with Yoruba Muslim and Non Muslims different people for years. Also Igbo, I know this attitude (Not all of them but most of them.)

All these proves nothing bro.

Not now. I have to get time for that.

This is rather the bone of contention. I still found it funny that you have time to argue about what had happend in the past but can't have time to read the OP? Could it be because you are afraid of seeing El-rufai for the evil that he is

Point out where I discard the Truth?

Evading the OP and covering it with an argument that have no correlation with it is an act of discarding the truth.

Go back to my previous post. I have to verify first that was my response.

Okay, I'm still waiting.

No sir. I did not say they are Christians. Some I said.

Okay.

Provide evidence he paid ransom or exchange them with prisoners. (A genuine one).
So you mean it's only Jonathan that arrest Boko Haram members and Buhari did not? Alright list the ones Jonathan arrested and Buhari released them.
https://www.nairaland.com/968413/list-suspected-christian-boko-haram
2- 8 COCIN members arrested with explosive
devises at Miya Barkatai branch of the church.
3- Lydia Joseph arrested with explosive devise in
Bauchi
4- Emmanuel King arrested while disguised as a
Muslim and attempting to bomb Redeemed
Christian Church Yenogoa.
5- Madam Ruth attempted bombing ECWA Church
in Kalarin area of Gombe.
6- Mr Alex Danladi involved in COCIN HQ bombing
was lynched by worshipers. He was a church
member disguised in military uniform..

You don't expect the government to tell you that they paid ransom before the girls were released. You don't expect them to tell you that they had to release some of their fighters before those girls were released. All these are in a bid to safe face in local and international communities. What you need to ask yourself is that, did BH just wake up one day and decided to release those girls just like that? How come BH waxed stronger after the release of those girls when actually their momentum was dying down before the news of those girls been released broke out?

This tribalistic maggot has started again

Rilwayne001:


Who's she and how did she gain access to such info? Don't you think it sound more like a conspiracy? The fact that they didn't come out to say such a thing in public makes this baseless.

Nothing like conspiracy. You don't know her? And u visit politics section? Those Boko Boys live with her at Maiduguri, they regard her as a mother. And you don't know when army arrested her? Are you current at all or you just want to blindly argue?

We all know he was ineffectual. His minister were the ones that makes most of the decision and not him. This doesn't mean that his aim was to empower book haram.

So if Buhari fails after his tenure. Will you blame Fashola and Amechi? That Buhari was not responsible its Dr. Fayemi

I said it was a matter on urgency and they are in the best position to provide it URGENTLY owing to the ties between us.

That's only your view. Only USA is in the best position 2 help in matter of urgency? And they letter went to south Africa, why not follow the legal way in south Africa.

A suspicious agenda might involves. If not why threw the motion before national assembly, is CAN president above the law? Go and find the Nigerian constitution on money laundering.

I never said i don't trust sultan. Don't put words in my mouth bro.


Why would i bash him? Supporting the government is a must for every citizen.


Kindly point out where i said i will not applaud him for supporting and helping the government. You are quite getting me wrong bro.

Your writings shows that. Look at what I said in my previous post and watch your reply

Assuming it involves sultan the whole world will be on fire. You southners will and said sultan is sponsoring terror.

Rilwayne001:

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Lol, seriously if it had been the Sultan, i would say the same thing. If it's for the betterment of the country, then why not?

But you applaud CAN president but when it come 2 sultan you will say the aforementioned.

All these are your thoughts and not reuot


Saying book harams are not Muslims is not enough in curbing the whole issue, rather enlightening the ignorant ones on the tenets of Islam and what it stands for. Providing basic education for the young ones so that they won't grow up jobless to the point where some people will have the opportunity to brainwash and use them for their evil aim.



No. CAN weren't even the owner of the jet rather their president who is the right man of jonathan back then.

Sorry CAN president I mean. But you claim that 90% are Muslims in your previous post when I claim we have Christian in Boko Haram. So sultan is responsible for providing Basic education? It's the duty of state and federal government.

Loooooool all i sha know is that, his intention is not to empower boko haram rather to fight them. If you have a contrary view of it, kindly state it now.

But if it happens 2 sultan you will say he is supporting terror. You said it above. Don't you?
That makes my claim valid that you are suppressing the truth for your brethren of the south. You know his intention is not supporting terror but when it comes to Sultan his intention is supporting terror. This is what u will say. isnt it? I have point where u said that

You've gotten me all wrong. I didn't say the bolded abegg!

I did not get you wrong. Your post verify my claims

This is rather the bone of contention. I still found it funny that you have time to argue about what had happend in the past but can't have time to read the OP? Could it be because you are afraid of seeing El-rufai for the evil that he is



Evading the OP and covering it with an argument that have no correlation with it is an act of discarding the truth.


Okay, I'm still waiting.

It will take time to verify every single thing he said by searching links and Google.

The Op was listening its only in Nigeria this that .... I add mine its only in Nigeria CAN president....

You don't expect the government to tell you that they paid ransom before the girls were released. You don't expect them to tell you that they had to release some of their fighters before those girls were released. All these are in a bid to safe face in local and international communities. What you need to ask yourself is that, did BH just wake up one day and decided to release those girls just like that? How come BH waxed stronger after the release of those girls when actually their momentum was dying down before the news of those girls been released broke out?

And you don't expect me to believe what ever you said about the released girls. You're here in Oyo and you're telling me what happen to chibok girls and Ransom etc....... They are in better position 2 be believed than your theory.