dalaman:


Provide the original translation and show where Edom is absent in it.

dalaman:


What are you talking about?



This proves my point exactly that the Koran is just a book written by men as such men will have to translate it differently and interpret it differently as well. Nothing in the Koran suggest it is divine in anyway . Based on the majority of other translations we can see that it was not even talking about the moon reflecting the light of the sun. The translation you used seem to be an outlier and hence it should be discarded since it goes far off from majority of the other translations. I can't prove that it is not supposed to be interpreted in a particular way because like everything in religion, you guys just keep making things up and giving it your own personal interpretations. It can clearly be seen from the different translations that the people are translating it according to their own wishes and making it agree with their own opinions.




I didn't translate those verses, I only showed you what other translations have stated and it comes nothing close to the moon reflecting the light of the sun. It says nothing like that. As for the part about Muslims killing Jews and Christians the actual verse might truly mean that Muslims are to kill the Jews and Christians but the Muslims living today will have to interpret it differently, because they know that killing Jews and Christians is impossible. If they try it there will be no Muslim on earth today. So they will have to re-translate it or re-interpret it to suit the realities on ground. Making things as you go is the life blood of all religions, that is why there are many different sects and many different interpretations because everything is always based on the opinion of others. Like any man made thing there is no universally accepted interpretation of anything, it always differs.

dalaman:


Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world and is expected to outstrip Christianity by the end of the century.

The number of Muslims will grow more than twice as fast as the world's population from now until 2050, the Pew Research Center has said.


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/islam-fastest-growing-religion-overtake-6986333

The predictions of Allah that Islam will take over the world is true. Cry as much as you want but the Koran remains the true revealed word of the creator of the universe.

dalaman:


So says the guy that has just been caught lying about manuscript.

felixomor:


This is you in another thread.





This is you on this thread





You see that it is not today u started talking with 2 sides of your mouth.

Shameless.

Damogull:


Dalaman you have a way of being so puerile and it makes me ashamed of you to be honest.

Yesterday you had the opportunity to carry out a research but lied that you did when you did not and you exposed yourself. Now you are asking for the original manuscripts when you have free access to research material in your hands so you can quickly use your findings to refute or confirm that which has been said.

That being said Edom was not the Original word..The original word is ESAU. ESAU is used the original manuscript. Edomites are descendants of ESAU but ESAU was used in the original manuscript.

Feel free to call me a liar as you like doing but sometimes show some intelligence by actually doing research and growing in true knowledge.

Damogull:



hahahahahahaha Dalaman see how you are lying without shame...But why bro why? Is it just to score cheap points and win arguments? Are you this insecure?

felixomor:


Quiet, the Ethiopian bible and the KJV are the most complete earliest versions.
None has Edom there.

Take a seat mehn.

dalaman:


The KJV that is riddled with so much errors that a NKJV had to be made. The entire KJV was translated from a Greek manuscript. The OT of the KJV wasn't even traslated from the original Hebrew manuscript.

https://bible.org/article/why-i-do-not-think-king-james-bible-best-translation-available-today

felixomor:


This is you in another thread.





This is you on this thread





You see that it is not today u started talking with 2 sides of your mouth.

Shameless.

dalaman:


How does this help your case about the early manuscripts?

As for speaking from both sides of my mouth, all I was dping was showing you that another God can be used to destroy what ever claim you make about your own God and I did that pretty well with Allah. There is nothing you can say about your God that muslims haven't stated or can't say about Allah if they want to.

felixomor:


Guy, i cant discuss translations with somebody who has 3 mouths.
Sorry.
To talk with one voice is a basic human requirement.

dalaman:


So you the word of God has translation errors? Word of God indeed.

felixomor:

Quiet, the Ethiopian bible and the KJV are the most complete earliest versions. None has Edom there.
Take a seat mehn.

MrMontella:

this is nonsense bro

KingEbukasBlog:
Atheism remains a man made idea started by Diagoras of Melos 2500 years ago !!!

Ranchhoddas:
So who was David talking about in Psalm 14:1?

MrMontella:

i've begged him to use his alledged ''critical'' thinking skills...

Yet he refuses and spills out his usual argumentum ad nauseam like a crybaby

Ranchhoddas:
So who was David talking about in Psalm 14:1?

felixomor:


It could be people in the future.

It could be anybody.

Just as
David wrote "blessed is the man"

Doesnt mean the man is existing or not existing.

Its only a description of identity.

felixomor:


It could be people in the future.

It could be anybody.

Just as
David wrote "blessed is the man"

Doesnt mean the man is existing or not existing.

Its only a description of identity.

Ranchhoddas:
My eyes have seen my ears. David was not only a king, he was also a prophet. Cc: MrMontella

dalaman:


And he couldn't be talking about people at that time because?

felixomor:


I understand the bible better than you.

Sorry to say.
No pride intended.

dalaman:


Then use your understanding to tell us why it can not be the people at that time .

felixomor:


Eiya.
So u just got to know that?

Google "david as a prophet" .
David even prophecied the entrance of Jesus after His resurrection from the grave.

Eiya, dey there..

felixomor:


Eiya.
So u just got to know that?

Google "david as a prophet" .
David even prophecied the entrance of Jesus after His resurrection from the grave.

Eiya, dey there..

Ranchhoddas:
Abeg show me the verse.

dalaman:


If you meet a Jewish Rabbi and show him the verse where you claim David phrophecied about Jesus. The Jewish Rabbi will tell you you are lying even.though you are reading from the same.text and about the same person.

felixomor:


The wisdom and poetry section of the bible: Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes and some parts of Job

Make use of generic description of attributes.

Example

"He who walks in the secret place of the Most High"

In Psalm 91 is a generic description of an ideal man

The passage does not mean whether the man exists or not
He may exist or may not exist.
He only wants u to see what that man gets to gain
And in the case of Psalm 14, he also only wants u to see what a person who says no God is.

Plain.

felixomor:


Just google "david as prophet"

No time for long story today.