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Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by PastorAIO: 11:16am On Dec 01, 2009 |
banom: Banom, imagine how upset Huxley will be. Remember a while back there was a thread asking if any body on this site had converted from atheism to religion, because it seemed only religious people were converting to atheism. I got a sense that the atheists were gloating. You'll have let them down seriously now. Anyway, I asked if you'd retain your sense of humour because you seem so serious now. But I understand that that is because this is a serious matter for you. |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by VALIDATOR: 11:29am On Dec 01, 2009 |
But Banom, on a lighter mood. Now that you are a born again christian do you now have answer to the question "Are we gonna have sex in heaven?" |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by wirinet(m): 12:26pm On Dec 01, 2009 |
I think every body in this thread is over reacting to Banoms purported conversion from atheism to born again Christianity. First i could not remember Banom ever claiming to be an atheist, i have search his posts and have not come up with any atheist proclamation, maybe someone can refer us to such. All i see from his previous posts are anger directed at "men of God". This is a post from Banom as far back as January 10, 2009 banom: Obviously he still proclaims belief in the Bible and Jesus, as uses to views to support Israel in the Hamas - Israeli conflict. On february 12, Banom stated categorically that he does not intend to discuss his religious beliefs, and still went on to question "the men of God" banom: On the same february 12, he made reference to the Bible; banom: But one of your post on the same January16 caught my attention; banom: Are you for real? There is also this interesting comment you made on may 27th on the topic atheists and Nigerians; banom: Here his belief in God was categorical, but he was questioning the veracity of the Bible and the Koran. So in conclusion Barom did not convert from Atheism to Christianity as is being celebrated by born agains here, he was never an Atheist in the first place. He was a disappointed, disillusioned and disoriented theist. |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by mavenbox: 1:05pm On Dec 01, 2009 |
@Banom: Welcome to the family! Welcome to the elect of the Godhead! I am very happy for you. Never forget, you are the salt of the earth; a city set on a hill whose lamp cannot be hid. If men do not taste the flavour of your conversion experience, of what use will it be? If your neighbours still stumble in darkness in the wake of your light, what is the essence of soteria? (Your altogether complete salvation). God bless you! @Naysayers: Get THE life! @Posakosa: Correct guy! LOL For once I am actually agreeing with you. Maybe I will read your future posts with less bias, in view of this objectivity you have displayed on this thread. I thought my own was too much. |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by MyJoe: 2:16pm On Dec 01, 2009 |
Davidylan:You really just found out? VALIDATOR: Banom? |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by Ogaga4Luv(m): 2:23pm On Dec 01, 2009 |
[size=13pt]Banom we need you back to the familly. . . .hope you realise the harm you're causing your life?.[/size] |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by Abuzola11(m): 2:29pm On Dec 01, 2009 |
ogaga read this he wasn't an atheist in the first place wirinet: |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by wirinet(m): 2:39pm On Dec 01, 2009 |
I do not know why some people here are ecstatic, even the heading of the topic did not suggest that Banom was ever an atheist. He said he denounce atheism, denounce means condemn, criticize, attack, censure, castigate, decry, rail/inveigh/fulminate against, declaim against, arraign, denunciate, revile. He did not say he renounced atheism. renounce meaning give up, relinquish, resign, abdicate, abnegate, surrender, sign away, waive, forego. |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by noetic15(m): 2:52pm On Dec 01, 2009 |
wirinet: within the context of this thread. . .both denounce and renounce mean the same thing. From the OP we can understand that banom has RENOUNCED his atheistic beliefs. . . . . .why is this reality a big blow for u? |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by wirinet(m): 3:12pm On Dec 01, 2009 |
Noetic, you started again, arguing blindly and illogically just to justify your position. Someone says he sees blank, you insist he must mean black. What is within the context of this thread that can equate renounce with denounce? I feel it is attitude like this that make so many people gullible and open to exploitation, reinterpreting other peoples writings. I have asked some questions of Banom's atheist credentials, like when did he become an atheist how long.? So Let him answer for himself. How have i shown that whatever Banom believes is my concern. Had i ever attempted to convert him into atheism? It is you people that is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. I had never known banom Atheist views, so questioning them with proofs of his previous posts now constitute a "big blow" to you |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by mazaje(m): 3:47pm On Dec 01, 2009 |
wirinet: He desperately needs to believe it is a "big blow to you" so that his belief in his delusions can be sustained. |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by olabowale(m): 4:05pm On Dec 01, 2009 |
@Posakosa:« #89 on: Today at 01:41:24 AM » making diabolical comparisons---- does not make for logical arguments. ITS BORING.Diablo is devil, a root word for diabolical. Now it is not possible that One True God concept is diabolical. 3 entities Gods where one is father on a chair/throne, another is a ghost and the last is man-god who died and woke up less than three days especially when he was to spend a full 3 day of sundowns to sunups (lol) is definitely diabolic! @0hsisi: « #90 on: Today at 02:12:47 AM » Your attempts to derail banom's thread and take away from his testimony will not workOhsisi, if you are not gullible, tell me how you could gullibly accept 3 (count with me, woman; Yahweh/Jehovah/Eloi, Elohim, thats one and different from Jesus/Messiah, thats two and neither is ghost thats three in your Tri Nity) to be One Indivisible Wholesome God Who stands Alone, never to die, Always alive? How gullible can you get after this? I dont care about Banom's condition, and as much as I like you, banom and you are from the same bird, now and when he was not a christian, except that you are fromdifferent parts. You are both Kufar. By the way, I am an al Muhajirin because my mission in america has since changed to dawah, the reason I dialogue on Nairaland, for thats all I can do here. Ohsisi, you better get away from 3 gods! @Validaotor: « #91 on: Today at 07:40:48 AM » Quote from: olabowale on Today at 12:40:26 AMI, a less sophisticated man will not drill myself into anything, even though I daily have the chance to of those who are not my bride. My reason for restricting myself is solely based on what Muhammad(AS) presented to me in Quran from his Lord and his action from his hadith and not because of my yorubaness or my ijebuness or my manhoodness and definitely not from any biblical character, eg the biblical Jesus because I will be a confirmed bachelor and if from Paul, I will be a eunich! I do hope that if i could be this aware, Alhamdulillah, then what you say about my master Muhammad (AS) as drilling his way into a little girl is not only idiotic as that of the village idiot but naive and uncouth stupid! My mother was young enough to be my father's daughter. I am old enough to be Zaynab's father. I hope your mom is younger than your father! |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by Nobody: 5:33pm On Dec 01, 2009 |
wirinet: Dont use words you have a tenuous grasp of. What do you mean by "ecstatic"? |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by wirinet(m): 5:43pm On Dec 01, 2009 |
davidylan: Mr PHD, please educate us on the meaning of ecstatic. Meanwhile this is the Oxford definition;
Your tenuous grasp of the word would be appreciated. |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by Nobody: 5:49pm On Dec 01, 2009 |
wirinet: I'm not sure u understood the reason i made that post - where did you see the "ecstasy" on this thread? Where are the rhapsodic, delirious, frenzied, orgasmic delights on the thread? |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by banom(m): 5:58pm On Dec 01, 2009 |
@ Mavenbox, Thanks a lot and God bless you. @ ,My Joe, When we get to heaven on that glorious day we will know if sex will be allowed in heaven. @ Wirinet, You made mention of so many things which i will answer you one by one. On the issue of Hammas/Israel Conflict. If you can remember you will know that the conflict was going on when some Islamic Idiot were killing Igbos in the North, so when i saw that thread and how a northerner was against the heavy havoc Israel was wrecking on Lebanese , i decided to reply that thread in a way i will uphold a mirror to the northerner for him to see how they kill Igbos in their place. 2, On the issue of Not disclosing my religious belief Publicly . Well, on that thread, i made a post that concerned our president ( a muslim) and christian pastors, while the discussion was going on, many wanted to figure out my religious belief but i decided not to say anything about my belief in other to be able to maintain my fluidity of conversation in that thread, I knew that if i say that i am an atheist, many will ask me why do i ask for miracle when i dont believe there is a God, and that will put me on defensive. ( I actually intended to use that thread to mock Christians and Muslim and to tell christians that their pastors are fakes and there is no God) 3, On the issue of Money. That was a front page thread some one made and asked , "WHAT DOES MONEY MEAN TO YOU" Some moralist jumped in and started saying that money is the root of all evil, so i countered them with the words of the Bible letting them know that even the bible says that money answereth all things, 4, On the issue of Forex Strategy Advert, I am the owner of INTEGRATED SYSTEMS, An IT and electronic trade service company with head office here in Abuja and two branch offices in Lagos and Kano, I first registereted here in nairaland and other forums with the intention of giving my firm some internet exposure and attention, after seeing the number of Nigerians on nairaland and the cost free advantage it will be to reach such audience with minimal effort, i decided to advertise our trades strategy here and other forums and we equally advertised it on major Nigerian news papers . but after the advert here, i found out nairaland is a very fun place to be and due to the nature of my job i am always online, so i went on with my banom ID to contribute and have fun here. 5, On the Issue of the Authenticity of the Bible and Qu'ran . I was actually trying to tell Christians and Muslims that both the Bible and the Qu'ran are all man made and that the both religions could be mistaking even if eventually there is a God. Finally, On if i am a self identified Atheist here, Honestly, i must tell you that since i was born, today is the day my eye opened, I now agree with Niccolo Machiavelli that men would break faith when it is in their favor to do so or when they see some thing to gain from it , i am shocked at you for saying that i have never declared to be an Atheist. it is quite surprising to see how you were able to go to my first set of posts here and copy my post that may support your case against me denouncing atheism, and you forgot or neglect my recent post that clearly stated my atheistic stand , Dude that was an Artful Omission and masterful Inclusion . Anyway to make a long story short, follow this link to see if i have ever declared to be an atheist on nairaland or not. https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-331016.0.html |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by debosky(m): 6:07pm On Dec 01, 2009 |
Welcome to the Kingdom of Heaven Banom. Angels are rejoicing over you right now. |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by 0hsisi: 6:12pm On Dec 01, 2009 |
debosky,please click on my signature and ask Seun to unban me with immediate effect since he admitted it was an error |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by modupe01: 6:16pm On Dec 01, 2009 |
There's a new name written down in glory! [flash=500,400] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4qPZVY6OJQ&hl=en_GB&fs=1&border=1[/flash] Click on the link for the lyrics. http://my.homewithgod.com/heavenlymidis2/newname.html |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by wirinet(m): 8:34pm On Dec 01, 2009 |
banom: Banom, I do not have any problems with explanations of your stand in your previous posts i quoted, it was your last response that disappointed me. First let me explain that we all come here to have fun and in the process learn one new thing or two. What ever any other believes would not put food on my table or fuel my car, so i do not care if you are an atheist, Muslim or Shinto worshiper. Having said that, i am an atheist because i regard my self a slave to rationality, i am obsessed with knowing how everything works. So when you made the claim that you had converted from atheism to Christianity, most people's first reaction will naturally be, is he pulling our legs. So I decided to investigate by examining your immediate previous posts. There i discovered that by 1:00PM same day, you were still joking with Tudor on starting a church and by 4:00PM, you said you have converted after meditating through the night. I asked you, and you gave some explanations which i still do not understand and did not bother further as i know that time will tell. After i few days we all realized you were serious and of course the born agains were ecstatic (apologies to david), so naturally wanted to know your views before the conversion, your views now and your views during the transition period. The first place to start investigation would naturally be your first few posts. On looking through i found that your religious views were not defined, I noticed you are very bitter with "men of God", especially Adeboye and Oyakhilome but you did not show disbelieve in God or the Bible. Now your posts were 40 pages long and i stopped at page 35 or So, because i am also very busy doing other things But from those 5 pages, i concluded that you had not claim to be an atheist and i asked you to point us to where you professed atheism at least to save me from going through the 40 pages. So i think it is in bad faith accusing me of breaking faith when it is in my favor to do so or when i see some thing to gain from it, because i do not know what you expect me to gain from you conversion or deconversion. Even the recent post you provided did not specifically say you were an atheist, you were only arguing with deep sight's definition of God and asking what his meaning of God, Existence, etc are. The only thread you claimed atheism is on the 3rd of october;
Here you are pouring your usual anger and frustration at "men of God" and to some extent, you are considering going [b]back [/b]to religion. So it was out of curiosity, that i wanted to know when you became an atheist, what were your core beliefs when you considered your self an atheist and what are your core beliefs now ( do you now agree with deep sight's definition of God?) As i said, whatever you believe is your own cup of coffee and should not make anybody happy or sad. |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by debosky(m): 9:36pm On Dec 01, 2009 |
0hsisi: done. |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by noetic15(m): 11:07pm On Dec 01, 2009 |
wirinet: after reading banom's response to u . . . . .i can only but laugh P.S: why is banom's conversion such a big blow to u. mazaje: blah blah blah . . . . .no matter what u say, the kingdom of darkness just lost another member. . banom is in the light. the door is still open for u. . .lol |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by mazaje(m): 11:20pm On Dec 01, 2009 |
noetic15: I understand the need for you to be happy about these things. . .I personally do not care at all. . . If you read my statement to him I truly wished him all the best. . . .As regards to this mythical kingdom of darkness you are talkaing about all I can say is enjoy the delusion while it last |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by noetic15(m): 11:50pm On Dec 01, 2009 |
mazaje: thanks . . , . u too enjoy ur DENIAL while it lasts |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by mazaje(m): 12:05am On Dec 02, 2009 |
noetic15: Do you know what a myth is neotic? You keep on bandying this kingdom of darkness myth. . . Where is this kingdom of darkness?. . .Is it a place? Who are those that reside in that kingdom and how can I see them? Since you claim to know pls can you help me and show me what that kingdom is located? |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by posakosa(m): 5:29am On Dec 02, 2009 |
mavenbox:---------- what bias r u talking about |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by skyone(m): 7:19am On Dec 02, 2009 |
Banom I'm very very happy for you please keep it up, you cant just go wrong, congrats and God Bless you. |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by banom(m): 10:38am On Dec 02, 2009 |
skyone: Thanks and God Bless you . |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by Chrisbenogor(m): 1:35pm On Dec 02, 2009 |
@Wirinet I still think he is just seeking for attention. I would love to hear your own story some day, if you have it already kindly provide the links if not then would you mind telling? |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by wirinet(m): 2:09pm On Dec 02, 2009 |
Chrisbenogor: Long time no see, where have you been? Talking about Banom? Whatever he is seeking is not my concern. What story do you want to hear? because you did not specify what you want to know. |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by Lady234: 4:04pm On Dec 02, 2009 |
Aaaah Haa Haa Aaaah Aaaah Haa Haa Aaaah Aaaaah Haa Ha Aaaaah |
Re: I Denounce Atheism, I Am Now A Born Again Christian. by bawomolo(m): 4:43pm On Dec 02, 2009 |
Lady 234: what if he becomes a seventh day adventist. is that fine? |
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