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Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by SeanT21(f): 11:45pm On Dec 02, 2009 |
(26:4) Do not answer a fool according to his folly, Or you will also be like him. (26:5) Answer a fool as his folly deserves, That he not be wise in his own eyes. My christian brothers and sisters, help me please. Abuzola, Don't start nonsense |
Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by 1forall: 12:18am On Dec 03, 2009 |
Nice one! I've had some trouble trying to understand this for a while now but methinks its just a unique passage made easy to notice, which u wont expect to find in the bible that easy (one after the other). Like many of the proverbs, it carries a message applicable in daily life. My deduction from it simply is . . . be flexible in your approach to things cos really; in the written context, you dont want to spend too much time with certain peeps, but there's certain situations where u need to put them in their places. . . spend the time if need be. so its up to you to decipher when to act how. Feel better now? Or has anyone got a different understanding? |
Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by seeklove: 6:48am On Dec 03, 2009 |
SeanT21: @poster, There is no contradiction between the two verses. One says:"Do not answer a fool according to his folly, " The other says:"Answer a fool as his folly deserves, " To answer a fool as his folly deserves does not mean to answer a him/her according to his folly. To answer one according to his folly is to reply to a fool in a foolish way. It means to condescend to his level, to become a fool too. To answer a fool as he deserves could mean to explain his folly to him, to warn him or to chastise him for his folly. I will give an example: To answer a thief(a criminal) according to his crime, could mean to steal from him. To commit theft. To do the same thing that the criminal did. To answer a thief as he deserves could mean to punish him for his crimes, ie put in him in jail. In a nut-shell give him the treatment he deserves. Put togerther, the verse simply says: Dont become a fool or do foolish things in answering a fool, but give him what he deserves. I will give another example If a sombody insults you while conversing with him, dont insult him back. Insulting him back is like answer him according to his folly. But you can answer him by telling him to stick to the subject of the matter and refrain from insulting you. To make him see that what he did(insulting you) was wrong. See you have answered him as his folly deserves but not acording to his folly. I apologize for attacking you in the past, since I found you in here in the religion forum. In this forum we store no malice. |
Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by toluxa1(m): 7:47am On Dec 03, 2009 |
seeklove: This is the EXACT literal solution to what seems like a contradiction in those verses. There could be a different spiritual mean though (haven't worked on that yet), because the bible is a spiritual book of parables. For example , a Fool many times has to do with the unsaved. |
Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by SeanT21(f): 9:03am On Dec 03, 2009 |
Thanks everyone for your contributions. Understood. |
Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by toluxa1(m): 2:46pm On Dec 03, 2009 |
You're welcome bro. |
Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by SeanT21(f): 4:08pm On Dec 03, 2009 |
toluxa1: I am a female. |
Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by Kay17: 5:40pm On Dec 03, 2009 |
seeklove:just twisted everything to his convenience. its a simple contradiction, answer is the key word and "as folly deserves" describes the extent of folly as much as "according to folly" |
Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by Nobody: 5:42pm On Dec 03, 2009 |
Kay 17: What a bleeding shame. I guess seeing imaginary "contradictions" is the only way to convince yourself you're making the right decision in hating the gospel. |
Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by noetic15(m): 6:09pm On Dec 03, 2009 |
SeanT21: u are welcome babe |
Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by mavenbox: 10:53pm On Dec 03, 2009 |
@SeanT21: Seeklove put a good lid on it! I couldn't have said it better!!! @Seeklove: Kudos |
Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by 1forall: 11:40pm On Dec 03, 2009 |
Kay 17:Kay 17 its couldnt be simpler, answer sure is the keyword from the KJV posters please read up the bible verses Prov 26. 4, 5 (or maybe the whole chapter) and lets have your take even if it's just once more |
Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by Abuzola11(m): 1:30am On Dec 04, 2009 |
SeanT, Don't be deceived, seeklove twisted the whole scenario. Ask urself that is it the bible that said so or the word of seekkove, the key word is don't answer a fool and later retracted its claim, its a clear contradiction |
Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by mavenbox: 2:09pm On Dec 11, 2009 |
Abuzola: Dead or Alive? We haven't seen your posts from your various user IDs, or has the Admin blocked your IP address? |
Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by SeanT21(f): 2:11pm On Dec 11, 2009 |
Abuzola 1: It took U so long to respond |
Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by mavenbox: 2:26pm On Dec 11, 2009 |
How are you doing SeanT21? I'm wishing you the very best of the year 2010, make the best of it! |
Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by SeanT21(f): 2:32pm On Dec 11, 2009 |
Thanks girl. I hope U get shower with blessing this new year. God bless U. |
Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by AKO1(m): 2:53pm On Dec 11, 2009 |
Seeklove, brilliant submission. It shows how much we can learn from the bible if we just sit down and think. |
Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:56pm On Dec 11, 2009 |
SeanT21: 1forall seems to nail it on the head. The crux of the matter is that you cannot reason with a fool otherwise you will have to reason with him on his own level which would make you appear to be a fool like him. If you do not answer according to his folly he will think he is as wise as you are and if you do answer according to his own folly, he thinks you are a fool as he is, so your reasoning is defeated. The only solution is in verse 3. |
Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by SeanT21(f): 3:36pm On Dec 11, 2009 |
What did verse 3 say |
Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by AKO1(m): 3:39pm On Dec 11, 2009 |
Pro 26:3 A whip for the horse,a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back Olaadegbu, I find this conclusion. . interesting. |
Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by SeanT21(f): 3:40pm On Dec 11, 2009 |
Thanks. |
Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by ruskiee(m): 3:50pm On Dec 11, 2009 |
Understood. |
Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:50pm On Dec 11, 2009 |
A_K_O: That is very true. A rod on the back of fools is as suitable as a whip for a horse or a bridle for an ass. The first 12 verses has some interesting things to say about fools. |
Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by mavenbox: 3:51pm On Dec 11, 2009 |
@SeanT21: U r welcome, sis! I love these two versions of the Bible: AMPLIFIED breaks down the original Hebrew text and the Message tells the proverbs in today's language AMPLIFIED MESSAGE As seen from the Amplified, you need to answer the fool to his self-confident folly As seen from the Message, the stick that you whip the fool with will ensure that he sticks to the plan (the race), and that he does not steer off-course (tiller, a lever used to turn a boat's rudder, it's steering mechanism) So, if the horse feels it is the strongest on the racetrack, don't argue with it, it's for your benefit. After all, you, the racedriver, are not like it. If you argue that it is not as strong, then maybe you want to be like it (compare with it). But when it starts feeling that it can run and it can stop whenever it wants on the racetrack because it is an 'almighty', then it needs a whip. Compare with answering fools according to their folly. LOL |
Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by mavenbox: 3:59pm On Dec 11, 2009 |
The whole Proverbs 26 in THE MESSAGE version, a treatise on fools. LOL.
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Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by ud4u: 4:28pm On Dec 11, 2009 |
@ Poster, I wanted to come up with the intepretation but after going through the replies I saw that seeklove and others have explained that for you and Iam happy you are pleased. Cheers. |
Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by rosiggy(m): 7:55am On Dec 14, 2009 |
Do u all know dat the bible also says dat a fool is one who says there is no God? |
Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by SeanT21(f): 8:28am On Dec 14, 2009 |
rosiggy: Yes, we know that very much. |
Re: Contradiction In Proverbs? Answering Fools by mamagee3(f): 7:02pm On Dec 15, 2009 |
rosiggy: Exactly my brother, we know that. |
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