ScienceWatch:
This is what LibraDeus say about Atheist countries, "I can help you out by pointing real life examples, countries like Japan, sweden, denmark, china etc have a population of freethinkers that exceeds the 40% mark by a reasonable margin but am sure you wont argue with the fact that these societies are much more civil, peaceful and enjoy a far lesser crime rate all without the fear of your sky bogeyman."

Without the help of the Sky bogeyman the following terrible crimes were done in these Atheist countries.

2016 crime stats for the countries he mentioned are;
Japan : (CNN)At least 19 people were killed and 26 injured in a stabbing spree at a facility for disabled people west of Tokyo, making it one of Japan's deadliest mass killings since World War II. Nine men and 10 women, ranging in age from 18 to 70, were killed in the attack.
Officer Satomi Kurihara of the Sagamihara Fire Department confirmed the death toll at the Tsukui Yamayuri-en facility in Sagamihara, a residential area approximately 40 kilometers (25 miles) west of the capital.

Sweden : That’s according to the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (Brå), whose preliminary figures suggest that the overall number of crimes reported in Sweden during the last year was around 1.5 million, a 6,470 increase compared to 2015. When broken down to specific categories, reported crimes against an individual increased by seven percent, rising to 275,000.

Denmark : Shocking A 32 year old, heavily pregnant woman was killed in Herlev, west of Copenhagen, Denmark on Friday night, allegedly with a knife and an axe.
According to Ekstra Bladet, the woman, in the seventh month of pregnancy, was walking her sister’s dog when she was killed. Police believe that the murder occurred between 18.30 and 19:30 on Friday night.

China : THE Chinese government continues to carry out mass killings of innocent people in order to obtain their organs for transplants, a damning new report reveals.
The report — by former Canadian politician David Kilgour, human rights lawyer David Matas, and journalist Ethan Gutmann — shows that organ transplants are carried out in China 10 times more than official government figures reveal. According to the report, the tens of thousands of organ transplants not reported by the government, are sourced from executed prisoners of conscience who were locked up for their religious or political beliefs.

More terrible things on China : Unlike the rare violent crimes, sexual assaults are said to be widespread and severely underreported.
The existence of chikan (“perverts”, meaning men groping women in public) is a massive problem and has led to the creation of “women-only” carriages in most major cities.

Japanese police are also criticized for failing to take victims of sexual crimes seriously time and again as a result of either chauvinist bias or an inability to investigate such crimes.

What are most disturbing about China are however arguments that the low crime is partially a result of a police culture that are obsessed with keeping crime statistics low.

Former Chinese detectives claim that police is unwilling to investigate homicides unless there is a clear suspects and frequently labels unnatural deaths as suicides without performing autopsies.

Coincidentally, Japan has one of the highest suicide rates in the world.

LiberaDeus:


You didnt read nor try to understand what i wrote there.

Firstly, you have no concrete proof or study that shows that just a tiny margin of people can live morally without a fear of god. If there is such a study, please show me the link to it.

You just reason things out based on your own myopic reasoning. Please am waiting for a link that shows a study conducted on freethinkers which shows that just a tiny fraction of them can live morally without god. I can help you out by pointing real life examples, countries like Japan, sweden, denmark, china etc have a population of freethinkers that exceeds the 40% mark by a reasonable margin but am sure you wont argue with the fact that these societies are much more civil, peaceful and enjoy a far lesser crime rate all without the fear of your sky bogeyman.

Instead of you to ask the right question which is - What makes humans behave morally?

Well let me list out things that will ensure morality in human societies
1. Empathy for members of our species
2. Strong laws that enforce tangible punishment
3. Strong institutions that have grown over a period of time through trial and error
4. High level of intelligence in a population

The above mentioned factors are not made stronger by religion.

The factor you have been hammering about which is number 2 on my list( a fear of punishment) is something that freethinkers have in equal measure with religious people. The laws setup by human beings are 100 times more effective than a religious fear of god. A perfect example will be nigeria
Most people in nigeria are religious people therefore they have an excessive fear of god
Our institutions are weak and law enforcement is a joke here

Now do the little experiment of dropping your phone in the middle of ojuelegba or a bundle of money and lets see if you will see it after 20 minutes. In such a case, what caused the immoral act of theft?

Its clear that such acts will always occur where the institutions are weak no matter the strength of the religious adherence in the country. Kindly repeat the same experiment in japan and compare results.

The moment i want to do business with anyone and he tells me he is a Pastor, thats the end. You religious people are the most unstable, immoral people on the planet. Thats why where you guys dominate is always filled with immorality counter to your claims of morality.

You keep hammering on the fear of god, what if your god requires you to do something that we term objectively immoral like suicide bombing or drinking dettol?

With your logic of taking orders from any so called virtual deity that always needs a man to speak for it, imagine the disaster that has been caused because of the wrong orders coming from that deity or its servants. The funny thing is that god never speaks or appears to anyone, it has to be one of his trusted conmen.

This fact makes you people very dangerous, you guys can ;
1. Deny medicare to your sick child to show faith
2. Can shun your sick mother because you believe she is a witch
3. Can steal money and pay tithe to your church
4. can kill, steal, rape and sell girls into slavery and see it as the holy will of god
5. Conduct slave trade for a period of 5 centuries and justify it with your bible
6. Rape little boys and get away with it
7. Colonize nations under the pretext of giving them the light of the gospel

You guys can do all these and not even feel a thing in your conscience and even if you feel bad, you just have to ask for forgiveness and in 2 seconds you feel better about yourself and you dont even try to make up for your crimes. Thats why religious people are dangerous.

Japan and China is proof that Atheism is a terrible burden on the soul.

Japan has one of the highest suicide rates in the world.

Sexual assaults by these Atheists on women are said to be widespread and severely under reported. The existence of men groping women in public) is a massive problem and has led to the creation of “women-only” carriages in most major cities.

What are most disturbing are however arguments that the low crime is partially a result of a police culture that are obsessed with keeping crime statistics low. Former detectives claim that police is unwilling to investigate homicides unless there is a clear suspects and frequently labels unnatural deaths as suicides without performing autopsies.

NLmember:


why do you atheists like to lie to yourselves?

Are you idiots living in bubbles of self delusion?

You clowns really believe a lot of people will decide to live right when they know there will be no repercussions for bad behaviour?

You have some very good points to make. Well done NLMEMBER !

It is not that Atheists believe that people can be good all by themselves. The tactics Atheists are using is to fulfill their mission as directed by their failed prophet Richard Dawkins, which is to destroy the very fabric of societies religious beliefs.

It is a clever Satanic ploy used to get unwary persons to reject the powerful personal guidance only religions have effectively given for thousands of years.

The loving creator has finally given the world an opportunity to view scientifically verifiable evidence of that the mighty Jesus is the Messiah. We no longer have to listen to the lies of science and their Satanic followers about the creation of our world and its creator.

Nor do we need science to prove the existence of the Mighty Jesus Christ. The evidence is freely available to the whole world on Emmanuel TV and Youtube.

This evidence is also exposing thousands of FAKE pastors for the extreme benefit of millions of innocent congregants across the globe.

Finally, the true reality of John 14:12 can be proven to be 100% accurate.

Now the wheat is separated from the chaff. Fake pastors are separated from their innocent congregations to make room for the genuine.




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