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Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by winetapper: 7:52am On Feb 11, 2017
Dear Mr Seun, Atheist, free thinkers and my Fellow Theists. 
I noticed Seun and his gang(atheist) has totally decided to debunk anything that claims to prove the existence of God/god . I feel maybe they haven't come across any reason to believe his existence .

So please give an explanation to this. When I was about 10-11 years old during the Christmas season, our family traveled down to spend the Christmas in the Village. Igbo- Ukwu in Anambra State. ( I am giving the location so people with similar experience can share)

Just like every Chrismas holiday, its a time to play ,meet friends, greet grand parents and visit and get visited .
One evening, I just got sick, I had head ache, stomach upset, feeling cold on the outside but feeling hot inside of me. I could barely stand on my feet,i could not eat, I could not hear clearly . 
My Mum went to the nearest pharmacy to get me Drugs to take but it literally caused no change.  My grandmother and her neighbors seems to know the cause already as they plan to take me there the next day. 

The next day I was so unconscious that I was carried to location for the ''Treatment'' I could remember there are lots of people about 50+ waiting to to be treated of similar situation. 
When it got to my turn ,i entered the room it was empty just a table and a seat. The Man in the room is of average age 28-30, dressed normal, no red or black decorations just simple rented room, table and seat.

He asked me to take my cloth Off. Then he start touching from my Head to my feet as if he is looking for something. At first I was confusing, like is that how I will be healed?  Then he stopped on my forehead, dragged my head closer to him, kissed my forehead and then he brought out something out from his mouth. ( The lead inside pencil, but little sizes, igbo calls it ntutu )  he continued feeling my body again and sucked more of the pins  out. 

Almost immediately I was healed. I didn't take the drugs anymore. I went back home immediately playing as if I was never ill. 

According to the other people , if an affected victim decides to Go to the hospital to take treatment and Injection is used on the person, Death is Guaranteed. 

To repel the pins from entering your Body, you should have safety pins pined to your cloth so it can have contact with the Body. 

Other methods of removal is the specialist sucking it out, hiting it out with his hand or an object .I still cannot tell how they implant it into the body.

I know one might doubt that since I was unconscious how did I know what he was doing. Simple ,before we traveled back to Lagos, we all went for check-up and once more, Yours sincerely has some more in his body. There I saw him clearly suck the pins out of my body and sister. 

I am sure there are people who have related experience, please do share . I will like to see how Seun and his gang will debunk this. I am open of questions.



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Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by brandonobi(m): 8:02am On Feb 11, 2017
this happened to one of my cousins, some villagers can be wicked for no reason mttschwww
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by casttlebarbz(m): 8:17am On Feb 11, 2017
i never hear this one b4 o...God have mercy
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by DeSepiero(m): 8:28am On Feb 11, 2017
What's your own explanation for your story?
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by Nobody: 8:36am On Feb 11, 2017
like seriously And you believe that 'sucking' the pins out of you is the miracle undecided.
Chai! Kukuma coman kill me embarassed
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by felixomor: 8:47am On Feb 11, 2017
HateU2:
like seriously And you believe that 'sucking' the pins out of you is the miracle undecided.
Chai! Kukuma coman kill me embarassed

......
So far, u have not explained anything for those of us interested in the explanation.

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Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by Seun(m): 9:05am On Feb 11, 2017
Having sharp objects pulled out from your body must have been really painful. Did you feel any pain when the guy was sucking out the pins?

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Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by Nobody: 9:10am On Feb 11, 2017
felixomor:


......
So far, u have not explained anything for those of us interested in the explanation.
I'm not here to explain. I just read the story and it's so interesting that I have no choice than to comment. Thanks. Wait for the person that understands 'sucking' grin. I only understand two types of 'sucking' cheesy

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Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by onetrack(m): 9:15am On Feb 11, 2017
Placebo effect, confirmation bias, and illusory correlation explain what happened to you, along with some trick by the 'healer'.

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Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by winetapper: 10:25am On Feb 11, 2017
Seun:
Having sharp objects pulled out from your body must have been really painful. Did you feel any pain when the guy was sucking out the pins?
zero pains, no blood. I couldn't even feel it coming out of my body.

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Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by winetapper: 10:26am On Feb 11, 2017
HateU2:
like seriously And you believe that 'sucking' the pins out of you is the miracle undecided.
Chai! Kukuma coman kill me embarassed
I said debunk what happened. It was done for evil.

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Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by winetapper: 10:28am On Feb 11, 2017
onetrack:
Placebo effect, confirmation bias, and illusory correlation explain what happened to you, along with some trick by the 'healer'.
then how come I was seriously ill.
How come those pins(lead pencil) came out from my body?
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by Nobody: 10:40am On Feb 11, 2017
winetapper:
I said debunk what happened. It was done for evil.
nice story line honey pie kiss
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by Seun(m): 10:51am On Feb 11, 2017
winetapper:
zero pains, no blood. I couldn't even feel it coming out of my body.
[s]Did you feel the objects moving within your body as he sucked them out?[/s] If not, is it possible that the sucking out of the pins was just an act?

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Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by winetapper: 10:56am On Feb 11, 2017
Seun:

Did you feel the objects moving within your body as he sucked them out? If not, is it possible that the sucking out of the pins was just an act?
I didn't feel it, but he sucked it out from areas which I had felt pains. Head,kneels,stomach and other parts.

I didn't tell him the location I had issue, he just used his hands to scan my body and sucked them out.

Others specialist do hit them out of the body and it falls on the floor.

If it's an act, how come I was healthy almost immediately without taking any drugs?

Below is example of the pin I am talking about not literally needle .

The broken part

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Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by Breakdbond: 11:16am On Feb 11, 2017
winetapper:
I didn't feel it, but he sucked it out from areas which I had felt pains. Head,kneels,stomach and other parts.

I didn't tell him the location I had issue, he just used his hands to scan my body and sucked them out.

Others specialist do hit them out of the body and it falls on the floor.

If it's an act, how come I was healthy almost immediately without taking any drugs?

Below is example of the pin I am talking about not literally needle .

The broken part
My brother, am from igboukwu too, heard of it a lot but all na film trick... There is nothing coming out from your body. Close examination will show u that the man is faking pulling out those lead

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Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by Seun(m): 11:30am On Feb 11, 2017
winetapper:
I didn't tell him the location I had issue, he just used his hands to scan my body and sucked them out.
You would have shown signs of pain when he touched those parts of your body.

If it's an act, how come I was healthy almost immediately without taking any drugs?
This is the most puzzling part of your story. Is it possible that you were poisoned by his accomplices and he just administered the antidote?

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Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by onetrack(m): 11:37am On Feb 11, 2017
winetapper:
then how come I was seriously ill.
How come those pins(lead pencil) came out from my body?

I wasn't there an am not a doctor. However I've never actually seen a miracle like this replicated in a laboratory in front of scientists; therefore, I must conclude that there was some trick, and that you recovered on your own. People do often get better on their own.

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Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by winetapper: 11:45am On Feb 11, 2017
Seun:
You would have shown signs of pain when he touched those parts of your body.
what about the one he removed in the areas I feel no pain.
After some weeks we went for check-up and I was sound, but he still got more out

This is the most puzzling part of your story. Is it possible that you were poisoned by his accomplices and he just administered the antidote?
His accomplices, with the intention to kill?
Note, I didn't eat or drink anything to work as an antidote.

onetrack:


I wasn't there an am not a doctor. However I've never actually seen a miracle like this replicated in a laboratory in front of scientists; therefore, I must conclude that there was some trick, and that you recovered on your own. People do often get better on their own.
I thought so too but, it happened to me and I know family members that died of it, thinking they can cure it as ordinary Malaria.
Breakdbond:

My brother, am from igboukwu too, heard of it a lot but all na film trick... There is nothing coming out from your body. Close examination will show u that the man is faking pulling out those lead
lucky you. Just be careful when you go down home. It's Real
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by winetapper: 12:02pm On Feb 11, 2017
Seun:


This is the most puzzling part of your story. Is it possible that you were poisoned by his accomplices and he just administered the antidote?

Just now, I am asking random people about it and I got same reply.

More details about it is that.
* The Pins are actually sold in cups to whoever needs it.
* it's mode of transmission is mostly through greetings. just like mine during Christmas holidays, everyone will want to hug you.
* Other mode of transmission is done without physical contact.

The *Pins* on entering the body you will feel no pains, also on removal you will feel absolutely no pain.

The greatest risk is going to the hospital and taking injection.
Mostly its people who have that evil plans for you that practice such act.
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by Edenoscar(m): 12:27pm On Feb 11, 2017
winetapper:
I didn't feel it, but he sucked it out from areas which I had felt pains. Head,kneels,stomach and other parts.

I didn't tell him the location I had issue, he just used his hands to scan my body and sucked them out.

Others specialist do hit them out of the body and it falls on the floor.

If it's an act, how come I was healthy almost immediately without taking any drugs?

Below is example of the pin I am talking about not literally needle .

The broken part

hello, am having trouble understanding your story, do you mean he sucked that kind of lead out of your body, did it come out of your skin?
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by winetapper: 12:53pm On Feb 11, 2017
Edenoscar:


hello, am having trouble understanding your story, do you mean he sucked that kind of lead out of your body, did it come out of your skin?
Yes, my skin.
He feels the body until, he detects the lead and he sucks it out
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by Seun(m): 1:04pm On Feb 11, 2017
winetapper:
Yes, my skin.
He feels the body until, he detects the lead and he sucks it out
He didn't suck the lead out of your body. If the lead came from your body, you would have felt it moving as he "sucked" it out. It's a cheap magic trick. He simply hid the lead in his mouth and pulled it out after sucking your body. What we don't know yet is why you felt better instantly.

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Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by abdulaz: 1:20pm On Feb 11, 2017
That is spiritism mr man.

Are you trying to justify the existence of your God with this your tales.

It doesn't mean because I'm an atheist I can't be spiritually inclined.

Spiritism and religion though mutually exclusive are two different things.

You only gave to ceasar what belongs to him for you to get healed, it's a balanced equation.
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by winetapper: 2:11pm On Feb 11, 2017
Seun:
He didn't suck the lead out of your body. If the lead came from your body, you would have felt it moving as he "sucked" it out. It's a cheap magic trick. He simply hid the lead in his mouth and pulled it out after sucking your body. What we don't know yet is why you felt better instantly.
so you are telling me, he will hide leads in his mouth for about more 50+ patients waiting in line too.


Listen, I don't know him and he doesn't know I was coming. He just felt my body and sucked it out

Like I said earlier other specialist has his own method of removal. Some hit it off your body and you will see it fall on the floor.

After he picks it up and wraps them with newspaper then gives it to you.

if its a magic trick everyone would have known the secrets around it.

No one jokes with health you know
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by winetapper: 2:14pm On Feb 11, 2017
abdulaz:
That is spiritism mr man.

Are you trying to justify the existence of your God with this your tales.

It doesn't mean because I'm an atheist I can't be spiritually inclined.

Spiritism and religion though mutually exclusive are two different things.

You only gave to ceasar what belongs to him for you to get healed, it's a balanced equation.
Spiritisim? Then you believe there is a God/god then..

Bro if you don't like Rice, dont like rice not when they bring Fried rice you will finish it.
No matter how you paint it Atheist don't believe in any external powers.

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Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by benzics(m): 3:39pm On Feb 11, 2017
Since you didn't feel the graphites coming out of your body, it was simply not from your body! Simple, but you getting healed instantly, that I don't understand..

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Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by Blackfire(m): 4:35pm On Feb 11, 2017
once u have this ntutu or pin, don't dare go to the hospital, once given an injection u are are gone I mean dead.
in my village this dark art of wickedness is sold in the market.... as cheap as 200 naira.

how to avoid it , watch where u go, and if u are the gem in your family, be extremely careful,, u can put pin on your cloth es...while going out. u can also put bitter cola in your mouth. funny enough u will always ve the premonition before this wicked pins are pushed into your body... but if u are a Christian used a well prayed over anointing oil, to rub on your body.

and for those who practice this life threatening art, they always pay dearly with a part of there body.
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by orunto27: 4:42pm On Feb 11, 2017
Seun is not an Atheist but a shrewd business man period. God loves challenges and so Rightness is with God.
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by Seun(m): 4:57pm On Feb 11, 2017
winetapper:
so you are telling me, he will hide leads in his mouth for about more 50+ patients waiting in line too.
Between patients he could load a new batch of graphite (pencil lead) into his mouth. It's extremely cheap, isn't it? How much did you pay him?

Listen, I don't know him and he doesn't know I was coming. He just felt my body and sucked it out
From your description, most of the people coming to him were coming for the same problem, so of course he was prepared.

Like I said earlier other specialist has his own method of removal. Some hit it off your body and you will see it fall on the floor.
That one is also easy to explain. They hold it in the hand and throw it down as they hit your body. With practice, they can fool most people.

if its a magic trick everyone would have known the secrets around it.
No. Fraudsters only reveal their secrets to their accomplices. The rest of us can only figure it out by thinking critically, which few people do.

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Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by winetapper: 5:08pm On Feb 11, 2017
Seun:

Between patients he could load a new batch of graphite (pencil lead) into his mouth. It's extremely cheap, isn't it? How much did you pay him?


From your description, most of the people coming to him were coming for the same problem, so of course he was prepared.


That one is also easy to explain. They hold it in the hand and throw it down as they hit your body. With practice, they can fool most people.


No. Fraudsters only reveal their secrets to their accomplices. The rest of us can only figure it out by thinking critically, which few people do.
I knew you would give me this kinds of reply.
So why then did I fall sick and drugs from the pharmacy had no effect, why was I healed immediately after the leads left my body.
How come he could detect where the lead are in the body just by feeling?

Not everyone that comes there actually has the pins in them. Some are just sick but comes to check up before going to the hospital. So when he "Scans" you and detects nothing, you just pay him and go.my sister after the check up nothing was Found on her, So what's your say about it?
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by winetapper: 5:12pm On Feb 11, 2017
Blackfire:
once u have this ntutu or pin, don't dare go to the hospital, once given an injection u are are gone I mean dead.
in my village this dark art of wickedness is sold in the market.... as cheap as 200 naira.

how to avoid it , watch where u go, and if u are the gem in your family, be extremely careful,, u can put pin on your cloth es...while going out. u can also put bitter cola in your mouth. funny enough u will always ve the premonition before this wicked pins are pushed into your body... but if u are a Christian used a well prayed over anointing oil, to rub on your body.

and for those who practice this life threatening art, they always pay dearly with a part of there body.
Thanks for sharing bro.
I wish people with experience of it will be bold to share it here

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