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Re: The number of people leaving Christianity outnumbers the converts by Image123(m): 12:52pm On Feb 12, 2017
randomperson:

You're proving my exact point....
Real Christianity is by evangelism, yet the people that are leaving Christianity are more than those converting to it... That's in spite of evangelism.

You said christianity survives on high birthrates and indoctrination, that is untrue. Nobody is born a christian. You have to be born AGAIN to be a Christian. Real Christianity survives on evangelism. The Bible predicts mass falling away, evil men and seducers waxing worse, and the love of many waxing cold. There's no news neither do we need any statistical analysis or science journal to tell us what we know. It's like knowing your name or your best food. Leaving or coming to Christianity doesn't change anything or disturb the veracity of the Bible and the fact that the Judge of the whole earth is coming.
Re: The number of people leaving Christianity outnumbers the converts by GoodMuyis(m): 1:06pm On Feb 12, 2017
randomperson:

It's a projection done on the basis of the current realities... That means right now more people are leaving Christianity than converting to it... That's the stats


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Re: The number of people leaving Christianity outnumbers the converts by Nobody: 2:40pm On Feb 12, 2017
randomperson:
Christianity among other religions is projected to increase significantly in population in the next decade and beyond. But this increase is mainly down to the high birthrates of the countries which are religious rather than the conversion of "unbelievers".
In fact, by 2050, Christianity is forecasted to have the biggest exodus of all religions, losing 106 million believers while gaining just 40 million converts.
This shows that on it's merits, more people are leaving Christianity than are joining. And the only way Christianity maintains it's population is by it's high birthrate and intense indoctrination...
Ref: http://www.livescience.com/50370-worlds-religious-population-will-grow.html

. You are quite funny, is there anything wrong with indoctrination? Infact, this system is highly recommended by God so why are you drinking panadol on top Christians headache.

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Re: The number of people leaving Christianity outnumbers the converts by jonbellion(m): 3:58pm On Feb 12, 2017
Pidgin2:


. You are quite funny, is there anything wrong with indoctrination? Infact, this system is highly recommended by God so why are you drinking panadol on top Christians headache.
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Re: The number of people leaving Christianity outnumbers the converts by Lex11(m): 4:20pm On Feb 12, 2017
The Parable of the Sower - Matt 13:1-9... & 18-23

"On the same day Jesus went out of the house and sat by the sea. And great multitudes were gathered together to Him, so that He got into a boat and sat; and the whole multitude stood on the shore. Then He spoke many things to them in parables, saying: “Behold, a sower went out to sow. And as he sowed, some seed fell by the wayside; and the birds came and devoured them. Some fell on stony places, where they did not have much earth; and they immediately sprang up because they had no depth of earth. But when the sun was up they were scorched, and because they had no root they withered away. And some fell among thorns, and the thorns sprang up and choked them. But others fell on good ground and yielded a crop: some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty. He who has ears to hear, let him hear!” ...

Therefore hear the parable of the sower: When anyone hears the word of the kingdom, and does not understand it, then the wicked one comes and snatches away what was sown in his heart. This is he who received seed by the wayside. But he who received the seed on stony places, this is he who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy; yet he has no root in himself, but endures only for a while. For when tribulation or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he stumbles. Now he who received seed among the thorns is he who hears the word, and the cares of this world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and he becomes unfruitful. But he who received seed on the good ground is he who hears the word and understands it, who indeed bears fruit and produces: some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.
Re: The number of people leaving Christianity outnumbers the converts by randomperson: 6:45pm On Feb 12, 2017
Image123:


You said christianity survives on high birthrates and indoctrination, that is untrue. Nobody is born a christian. You have to be born AGAIN to be a Christian. Real Christianity survives on evangelism. The Bible predicts mass falling away, evil men and seducers waxing worse, and the love of many waxing cold. There's no news neither do we need any statistical analysis or science journal to tell us what we know. It's like knowing your name or your best food. Leaving or coming to Christianity doesn't change anything or disturb the veracity of the Bible and the fact that the Judge of the whole earth is coming.
Christianity survives on high birthrates... Majority of Christians didn't convert to Christianity, they were born to Christian parents... Same with Islam...
And it's not about any prophecy because if that was the case, Christianity would have a different reality to other religions. But what applies to Christianity generally applies to Islam to, so, nothing special
Re: The number of people leaving Christianity outnumbers the converts by airmark(m): 7:42pm On Feb 12, 2017
randomperson:

Stop telling stories... Bring hard facts with links. The stats show that Islam is actually the fastest growing.

That was how stats showed that Clinton would win the last election. Humans would always throw figures recklessly, ignoring crucial points in carrying out their stvpid researches. I was appalled at you typing Christianity thrived on high birthrate . Stuffs that made Islam to grow at all are majorly , polygamy, taqqiya and apostasy.

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Re: The number of people leaving Christianity outnumbers the converts by randomperson: 7:48pm On Feb 12, 2017
airmark:


That was how stats showed that Clinton would win the last election. Humans would always throw figures recklessly, ignoring crucial points in carrying out their stvpid researches. I was appalled at you typing Christianity thrived on high birthrate . Stuffs that made Islam to grow at all are majorly , polygamy, taqqiya and apostasy.
You're comparing pre-election political polls to actual figures. Islam has the highest birthrate but it's closely followed by Christianity..
Actual figures show that more people are leaving Christianity than are joining
. U should have bothered to read the link I gave, instead of just bringing issues already addressed
Re: The number of people leaving Christianity outnumbers the converts by randomperson: 7:50pm On Feb 12, 2017
Pidgin2:


. You are quite funny, is there anything wrong with indoctrination? Infact, this system is highly recommended by God so why are you drinking panadol on top Christians headache.
Yes, highly recommended by God because without it, there will be no Christians
Re: The number of people leaving Christianity outnumbers the converts by airmark(m): 9:12pm On Feb 12, 2017
randomperson:

You're comparing pre-election political polls to actual figures. Islam has the highest birthrate but it's closely followed by Christianity..
Actual figures show that more people are leaving Christianity than are joining
. U should have bothered to read the link I gave, instead of just bringing issues already addressed

Are you kidding me? What actual figures? Did the researchers go to all countries to get the accurate figures of converts in both religions ? Come on, don't join the ignoramuses.

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Re: The number of people leaving Christianity outnumbers the converts by randomperson: 10:03pm On Feb 12, 2017
airmark:


Are you kidding me? What actual figures? Did the researchers went to all countries to get the accurate figures of converts in both religions ? Come on, don't join the ignoramuses.
Lolz... It's obvious you don't want to accept the figures because they are unfavorable to your position...
How do researchers know the standard of living in each country, how do they know the safest countries... It's called research methodology...
For example, based on the birthrate of a particular section of a country, u can predict the future population of a place and by extension, the future population of a religion in that location...
It's not really that hard... And it's not enough to say figures are misleading. Why not bring your own figures or discredit the figures I gave on the basis of research methodology...
Re: The number of people leaving Christianity outnumbers the converts by airmark(m): 11:38pm On Feb 12, 2017
randomperson:

Lolz... It's obvious you don't want to accept the figures because they are unfavorable to your position...
How do researchers know the standard of living in each country, how do they know the safest countries... It's called research methodology...
For example, based on the birthrate of a particular section of a country, u can predict the future population of a place and by extension, the future population of a religion in that location...
It's not really that hard... And it's not enough to say figures are misleading. Why not bring your own figures or discredit the figures I gave on the basis of research methodology...

This is not about my position. Did the research methodology put into consideration many factors like, the number of muslim's lives lost in wars in islamic nations. Did the research touch, the number of refugees that swapped their faiths for better lives in their new abodes? Did it consider many that changed theirs and kept mute, due to fear of apostasy law? Did they reach out to all churches in nigeria to get the lists of new converts, let alone getting those all around the world? The same way you rubbish the election polls that favoured clinton, should be the same way you should rubbish this.

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Re: The number of people leaving Christianity outnumbers the converts by randomperson: 7:39am On Feb 13, 2017
airmark:


This is not about my position. Did the research methodology put into consideration many factors like, the number of muslim's lives lost in wars in islamic nations. Did the research touch, the number of refugees that swapped their faiths for better lives in their new abodes? Did it consider many that changed theirs and kept mute, due to fear of apostasy law? Did they reach out to all churches in nigeria to get the lists of new converts, let alone getting those all around the world? The same way you rubbish the election polls that favoured clinton, should be the same way you should rubbish this.
How do u know what they did and did not consider? Stats like this are computed over a number of years not like pre- election polls which were always fluctuating.
In fact, some polls actually had trump up by one point on the day of election but most polls had Clinton up by not more than three points which was slightly within the margin of error.
This research claims a deficit of a whooping 60million. That is well beyond the margin of error.
The Pew Research Center is the most prestigious body when it comes to religious demographics. So forgive me when I consider their figures more valid than your figures- or your lack of them.

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