It's been a while here though..

I see a lot of threads by theists, with titles like "reasons people become atheists", I even see most assuming that "you became an atheist because you loved sin", "you became an atheist because you were never truly religious "... I say that's bullshit!

Most theists are not even as religious as atheists/agnostics/deists were during their religious days, yes this is true, because if you've read your holy books and you still see nothing wrong with them, I must say " you try"..

As a Muslim, you see nothing wrong with your sexist, misogynistic, paedo of a prophet, it's really nice.. .

As a Christian you see nothing wrong with your insecure, misogynistic, genocidal and murderous being of a God, wow, just wow..

Many Christians whenever you quote the Bible for them, just scream "out of context" or "old testament", during my religious days, what actually made me skeptical about the Bible and God were in fact the new testament, not even the old, because apparently, we all know bible verses in churches are specifically cherry picked, so as not to bother the congregation, so I knew not much of the old testament until I started reading the Bible.

As a Christian, I never knew about the human sacrifice offered to God, I never knew about how God killed Onan for refusing to impregnate his brother's wife, I never knew God killed Uzzah for just touching the ark of covenant, I never knew about ridiculous stories like how God paused the sun, until Joshua killed all his enemies, I generally didn't know about the evil ways of God, until I read the Bible...

I was born catholic, but along the line I went to a pentecostal church, watchman, for upto 4years if not 3 or 5.. As a catholic, you'd probably think most CHRISTIAN denominations are going to hell for not worshipping God the right way, but I loved the catholic church because they were open minded unlike pentecostal churches I've been to, who in fact waste most of their times talking about the catholic church, and making up conspiracies that are simply not true about the catholic, the catholic on the other hand rarely talked about other denominations, but that's by the way..

I was an alter server, so I discovered a lot of secrets about the catholic church, how their priests were just womanizers, worst, pedophiles!

But let's just talk about why we started questioning our faiths..

There was this gospel message that irritated me, Matthew 22

So is it now by force to come to a wedding? Just because some rejected the invitation "they would be sent to eternal damnation". . Like WTF That was when I started questioning "the good God, whom will kill you for rejecting his offer".. . Great just great.. .

My journey to atheism wasn't overnight, it took time, close study of the buybull (as hopefullandlord would say ), I found a lot of things I hated in that book, and of course I interacted with atheists in their various online pages and groups, and I asked myself these questions about the existence of God and I answered them sincerely..

Have I ever seen God?? NO

Have I ever felt God?? NO

Have I ever heard God? (theists most times speak to themselves in their heads and then assume it's the voice of God), so NO!!

About Miracles

Do I have any close relative or someone I know to be physically disabled, that have been healed? (all healings I see and hear of are people I don't know), so, NO.

My friend's Dad who was blind was taken to the almighty TB sciencewatch Joshua, and can you imagine this man is blind till date, because app, "God's time is the best"...

My mum have also been to TB Joshua, and her "problems" still prevailed..

So I went on asking people if they had anybody whom they knew, that was healed by any man of "god", all I got was a no..

So there was no other conclusion than MIRACLES are just play.. .

It also took me gradually to overcome the fear of hell, and at times even wish hell was real

To other skeptics, agnostics, atheists, deists... What made you question religion?

Cc: jonbellion, hahn, felixomor, nihilism, ninjax, randomperson,4kings..

Very simple.

You became atheist because your subconscious mind slowly wanted you justify yoirself for the sins you commit.

Young Christian men of today whom are porn and fornication addicts slowly @and subconsciously invent the doctrine of "No God" so that they can be free within to commit their Sins.
After sometime, they tell you, "they are atheists".....

Thats why they keep fighting here with their conscience on religious section from time to time.

Period.

I started questioning organized religion (but never that fact that a supreme being exists) when I see most crimes and bloodshed being committed in the name of religious beliefs. From Islam, Christianity to traditional religious beliefs.
The gods themselves too are saidbto answer to a higher authority. Plus, the rich can buy the votes of the gods. Except the supreme being who can not be sold out.
I also know for a fact that the door to the supreme is being locked by those who want to have absolute control, to avoid victims call for vengeance. I also believe that, God doesn't work the way we are told God works. Some of the religious leaders don't even know how the principle of God works too.

felixomor:
Very simple.

You became atheist because your subconscious mind slowly wanted you justify yoirself for the sins you commit.

Young Christian men of today whom are porn and fornication addicts slowly @and subconsciously invent the doctrine of "No God" so that they can be free within to commit their Sins.
After sometime, they tell you, "they are atheists".....

Thats why they keep fighting here with their conscience on religious section from time to time.

Period.

Why do you always talk about porn. Are you a porn lover?

Ranchhoddas:
Why do you always talk about porn. Are you a porn lover?

Because of my small research I did on young male (former Christian) atheists....

Very interesting findings

Ranchhoddas:
Why do you always talk about porn. Are you a porn lover?

The guy is one hell of a porn lover I tell you, always talking about porn, nothing better..

Booked

felixomor:
Very simple.

You became atheist because your subconscious mind slowly wanted you justify yoirself for the sins you commit.

Young Christian men of today whom are porn and fornication addicts slowly @and subconsciously invent the doctrine of "No God" so that they can be free within to commit their Sins.
After sometime, they tell you, "they are atheists".....

Thats why they keep fighting here with their conscience on religious section from time to time.

Period.

LMAO..

It's just like saying "you don't believe in pregnancy because you want to have sex without condom", as if you won't still get someone pregnant...

We don't believe in God, simply because we know he(Jehovah, Allah, Krishna, and the rest of the hogwash) do not exist!

And being a theist doesn't make you less a "sinner".. . Bro you seriously need to get laid

benzics:

LMAO..

It's just like saying "you don't believe in pregnancy because you want to have sex without condom", as if you won't still get someone pregnant...

We don't believe in God, simply because we know he(Jehovah, Allah, Krishna, and the rest of the hogwash) do not exist!

And being a theist doesn't make you less a "sinner".. . Bro you seriously need to get laid

That's the confirmation right there.

felixomor:


That's the confirmation right there.

LOL, what confirmation? You keep talking about porn as if it's one big deal, can't you get a girl ni? Or are your hands already failing you and you feel like blaming atheists will solve anything?

benzics:

LOL, what confirmation? You keep talking about porn as if it's one big deal, can't you get a girl ni? Or are your hands already failing you and you feel like blaming atheists will solve anything?

The rationalization stage....

Kwantinue.....
May God forgive you.

These atheists are very funny people. Their life is filled with emptiness and they can't fathom why religious people are so filled with hope irrespective of the situation at hand.

delishpot:
I started questioning organized religion (but never that fact that a supreme being exists) when I see most crimes and bloodshed being committed in the name of religious beliefs. From Islam, Christianity to traditional religious beliefs.
The gods themselves too are saidbto answer to a higher authority. Plus, the rich can buy the votes of the gods. Except the supreme being who can not be sold out.
I also know for a fact that the door to the supreme is being locked by those who want to have absolute control, to avoid victims call for vengeance. I also believe that, God doesn't work the way we are told God works. Some of the religious leaders don't even know how the principle of God works too.

Religious notion of God we all know is crap....

I for one also feel religion can be used to control people, that's why it's very important in politics..

But why I can't subscribe to any belief in God is simply because, a fellow human being like me, cannot tell me about a God he knows nothing of, every idea you have about God are just mere speculations, and I don't see why I'll take someone's word for anything!

ScienceWatch:
Is this a coincidence, or what ?

I have often heard that Atheist pride themselves on using higher mathematical modelling in their reasoning. But I see clear evidence of BENZICS' total lack of sound reasoning here.

What it does not require is advanced maths here is to establish BENZICS'S motives for writing the trash seen here.

Motive No.1 BENZICS' is fraudulently attempting to debunk established and verifiable truths.

Motive No.2 BENZICS' want to desperately destroy all religions and its time honored tenets.

Motive No 3 BENZICS'S is desperate to move up in the ranks of the group aptly labelled by HOND as "Coward Atheists."

BENZICS' is making the same terrible mathematical mistakes in this thinking, as his failed "Coward Atheist" prophet Richard Dawkins
continually make.

The education for beginner "Coward Atheist" starts with concrete primary maths, it moves upward toward abstract thinking by the use of Calculus. Even Atheist professors have been caught using concrete primary maths while debating spiritual TRUTHS.

Can we help the low church Atheist to debate on spiritual matters, religious topics, faith etc etc etc ?

Fraudulently? What's false about what I posted above?

Miracles are simply not true, why didn't tb Joshua heal my friend's dad? And why do all miracles happen to people we don't know?

Spiritual as you term it, is just mere beliefs, if you don't know, "your beliefs go a long way in modifying your reality", why do skeptics not encounter "spiritual activities", why is it subjected to only those who believe in them?

LOL, coward atheist? Only you theists still think that psycho, Honda, or is it Hond, is an atheist.. .

Omoluabi16:
These atheists are very funny people. Their life is filled with emptiness and they can't fathom why religious people are so filled with hope irrespective of the situation at hand.

LOL, emptiness my arse.. .

Nothing feels better than living in reality, living for now, and not uselessing the only life you have in belief of receiving another one..

Omoluabi16:
These atheists are very funny people. Their life is filled with emptiness and they can't fathom why religious people are so filled with hope irrespective of the situation at hand.

You are right

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The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one- Robert Green Ingersoll.

benzics:

Religious notion of God we all know is crap....

I for one also feel religion can be used to control people, that's why it's very important in politics..

But why I can't subscribe to any belief in God is simply because, a fellow human being like me, cannot tell me about a God he knows nothing of, every idea you have about God are just mere speculations, and I don't see why I'll take someone's word for anything!

It is my own personal conviction. Not from anyone's point of view. My own experiences, my own feelings, my own thoughts.
You may not reffer to it as God! You may call it the controlling energy. It is in all of us. But some are aware while others are not. Hence some can feel your life vibrations and interpret it, while others can not. Some are open others are closed.
Not what anyone said. In fact, the most dissapointments I have experienced came from very "religious" people. So, I do not take their words for it. It takes time, but of you calm your spirit well enough you may feel the Creator energy but the question is.........how does one relate with it? Hence I said, it is there, but we have been blocked from knowing how to associate with it. Which leads me to say....... God does notbwork like we have been led to believe.

benzics:

Fraudulently? What's false about what I posted above?

Miracles are simply not true, why didn't tb Joshua heal my friend's dad? And why do all miracles happen to people we don't know?

Spiritual as you term it, is just mere beliefs, if you don't know, "your beliefs go a long way in modifying your reality", why do skeptics not encounter "spiritual activities", why is it subjected to only those who believe in them?

LOL, coward atheist? Only you theists still think that psycho, Honda, or is it Hond, is an atheist.. .

Shew ! What is your real problem ?

If you properly applied basic maths to you conclusions, you would not say so glibly, "Miracles are simply not true!"

BENZICS I dare not ask you to use more advanced mathematical models to help you find an answer to your question, "Why do all miracles happen to people we (atheists) don't know?

Because you are impatient and need answers quickly, I will kindly refer you to something non religious/scientific that can help even a beginner atheist to answer your question.

I dont want to spoil you, but I will leave you with clues.
Have you seen "The Secret" ?
Do you know the implications of the proofs that is presented in "The Secret" that - Like attracts like.

Over to you !

ScienceWatch:
Shew ! What is your real problem ?

If you properly applied basic maths to you conclusions, you would not say so glibly, "Miracles are simply not true!"

BENZICS I dare not ask you to use more advanced mathematical models to help you find an answer to your question, "Why do all miracles happen to people we (atheists) don't know?

Because you are impatient and need answers quickly, I will kindly refer you to something non religious/scientific that can help even a beginner atheist to answer your question.

I dont want to spoil you, but I will leave you with clues.
Have you seen "The Secret" ?
Do you know the implications of the proofs that is presented in "The Secret" that - Like attracts like.

Over to you !

Referring me to a book/movie based on the law of attraction and claims that positive thinking can create life-changing results such as increased happiness, health, and wealth.?

Of course positive thinking does a lot, if you read in between the lines you'd notice that I said, "beliefs can go a long way in modifying our realities"...

How is that proof of anything am discussing here?

You claim only atheists don't see miracles happening to people they know, when in fact that's a big lie, you can do the survey yourself, you'll be amazed at the number of Christians who haven't seen miracles first hand..

felixomor:


The rationalization stage....

Kwantinue.....
May God forgive you.

May he forgive the people that really need his forgiveness

benzics:

Fraudulently? What's false about what I posted above?

Miracles are simply not true, why didn't tb Joshua heal my friend's dad? And why do all miracles happen to people we don't know?

Spiritual as you term it, is just mere beliefs, if you don't know, "your beliefs go a long way in modifying your reality", why do skeptics not encounter "spiritual activities", why is it subjected to only those who believe in them?

LOL, coward atheist? Only you theists still think that psycho, Honda, or is it Hond, is an atheist.. .

Your dear friends dad hate God, so why are you so surprised that he was not healed by the God that he hate ?

You will find the answers to the questions above in the Non religious DVd "The Secret"

By the way, BENZICS, "Coward Atheists" are attracted to "contradictions" like bees to honey. I see glaring contradictions in your statements here. I will not be forward and attempt to unravel it here and take away the food from the hounds.

There many eager to point out your serious "contradictions."

Help this guy ! johnnydon22, hopefullandlord, hardmirror, jonbellion, akintom, coolusername, sirwere, Hahn, Lennycool, benzics

ScienceWatch:
Your dear friends dad hate God, so why are you so surprised that he was not healed by the God that he hate ?

You will find the answers to the questions above in the Non religious DVd "The Secret"

By the way, BENZICS, "Coward Atheists" are attracted to "contradictions" like bees to honey. I see glaring contradictions in your statements here. I will not be forward and attempt to unravel it here and take away the food from the hounds.

There many eager to point out your serious "contradictions."

LOL, great, just great, you just accused a staunch believer of hating " his God ".. Well isn't your God mad? I thought God showed himself and healed one of his biggest haters, Paul, why can't he do that in the 21st century...

benzics:

May he forgive the people that really need his forgiveness

Mscheww....
Look within .....
Those "dying" pple (u use in justifying your fornication) have better future when they die than your soul as it stands.

benzics:

Referring me to a book/movie based on the law of attraction and claims that positive thinking can create life-changing results such as increased happiness, health, and wealth.?

Of course positive thinking does a lot, if you read in between the lines you'd notice that I said, "beliefs can go a long way in modifying our realities"...

How is that proof of anything am discussing here?

You claim only atheists don't see miracles happening to people they know, when in fact that's a big lie, you can do the survey yourself, you'll be amazed at the number of Christians who haven't seen miracles first hand..

So you agree that Atheist will never "see" miracle healings, because of the principle of the Law of Attraction - Like attracts like.

The Christians you refer to, are only Christian by name. I encourage you to work hard on the deeper meanings contained in this scientific law before you continue on you mission to destroy the faiths of other.

Ranchhoddas:
You are right

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The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one- Robert Green Ingersoll.

Except that drunkenness is temporary, and the drunken man sobers up sooner or later. so your 'drunken happiness' is incomparable to genuine happiness we find in faith. Which is ETERNAL.

Reasons why I turned

1 bible were written by us
2 cos of so much fictions, lies, impossibilities, in d bible
3 cos of internet, nairaland, YouTube most especially
4 inhuman pastors using church members like rag
5 cos god is omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient yet he failed in every part
6 thousands of active religion with different gods
7 cos god never revealed itself
8 cos god only wanted endless praises and worship

ScienceWatch:


So you agree that Atheist will never "see" miracle healings, because of the principle of the Law of Attraction - Like attracts like.

The Christians you refer to, are only Christian by name. I encourage you to work hard on the deeper meanings contained in this scientific law before you continue on you mission to destroy the faiths of other.

Mr no true Scots... Christians by name my ass, so you are saying, if you hate God, miracle can't happen to you? What about all the exorcisms we see on TV? Scoan's Emmanuel TV in particular, so all those "demons" love God?

Omoluabi16:
Except that drunkenness is temporary, and the drunken man sobers up sooner or later. so your 'drunken happiness' is incomparable to genuine happiness we find in faith. Which is ETERNAL.

Yes. The drunkard has to return to the bar every evening(?) to get his 'high'. The believer has to return to the mosque or church on fridays or sundays to get his 'fix'. What's the difference.

Ranchhoddas:
Yes. The drunkard has to return to the bar every evening(?) to get his 'high'. The believer has to return to the mosque or church on fridays or sundays to get his 'fix'. What's the difference.

haha. wrong again. My bible with me 247, we meditate on God's words often we can sing, praise God outside the church anyplace anytime. so trust me lad, there is no 'fix' here. Constantly and endlessly is our fellowship with God.

benzics:

LOL, great, just great, you just accused a staunch believer of hating " his God ".. Well isn't your God mad? I thought God showed himself and healed one of his biggest haters, Paul, why can't he do that in the 21st century...

Your friend is a staunch believer in his failed prophet Richard Dawkins. If he ever was a true believer in God as healer, he would show you proof. Do your friend know that your stated mission in life as a "Coward Atheist" is to destroy the worlds religions, firstly Christianity and therefore his own life ?

We all must learn to choose friends wisely.

What has Prophet Dawkins offered his followers ? Only hatred of others beliefs. Prophet Dawkins disguise this hatred by promising his followers a better life after the destruction of others religions.

When you listen to the dreaded doctrines of Atheism, dont you stop and ask what are their hidden selfish motives ?