Demmzy15:
OK but you slow last last!

Demmzy15:
OK but you slow last last!

FriendNG:


NAS

ahahahahah hahaha!! This Malla, you don come again with your wahala Abeg no kee me o!

Demmzy15:
ahahahahah hahaha!! This Malla, you don come again with your wahala Abeg no kee me o!

Riduane:


Lol, I seriously miss throwing jab at that chief

Demmzy15:
My bros leave him o, I noticed you guys are best friends today another thing tomorrow!

Demmzy15:
ahahahahah hahaha!! This Malla, you don come again with your wahala Abeg no kee me o!

Riduane:

We are like Tom and Jerry.
I'm Jerry whilst he's tom

AlBaqir:


The moment a book of God is rewritten, then there is no perfection in it anymore. And every era it faces challenges, there will also be review about it. Quran is far from being review. Who exactly will do that?

# So how much Arabic do you understand? Can you truthfully read Arabic Quran with understanding without the aid of English translation beside it?

# Even native Arab cannot fully comprehend Quran unless they further its study in detail.

# Like I said earlier, those ahadith are big problem for those who believe in them. No doubt they cast huge doubt to the authenticity and completeness of the Quran.

None of their fights has something to do with authentication or compilation of Quran.

Riduane:


We are like Tom and Jerry.

I'm Jerry whilst he's tom

tintingz:
Unfortunately it was rewritten.

I'm not an arabia I can only read Arabic.

There is nothing special about it, every language has it uniqueness, the Quran was written in classical Arabic, the Arabs during Muhammad (SA)'s era understand the classical Arabic.

You talked about a professor that had to travel to Arab to understand the root of the Quran, what's so new and special about it? People travel to countries to study the language and culture, we have foreigners coming to Yoruba land to study the language, religion and culture, go to Ife and University of Ibadan you will find white people studying Yoruba culture.

There is classical Yoruba language, people study Owe, Ofo, Oriki(Parables, idioms, poems) and classical Yoruba language our forefathers speak, we have professors that had to study the Yoruba culture to know it deep root in language, we have people like Professor Wole Soyinka and many professors and foreign professors, even a lot of Brazilians are studying Yoruba culture.

So don't try to paint Arabic to be so special than other languages.

tintingz:
Unfortunately it was rewritten.

I'm not an arabia I can only read Arabic.

There is nothing special about it, every language has it uniqueness, the Quran was written in classical Arabic, the Arabs during Muhammad (SA)'s era understand the classical Arabic.

You talked about a professor that had to travel to Arab to understand the root of the Quran, what's so new and special about it? People travel to countries to study the language and culture, we have foreigners coming to Yoruba land to study the language, religion and culture, go to Ife and University of Ibadan you will find white people studying Yoruba culture.

There is classical Yoruba language, people study Owe, Ofo, Oriki(Parables, idioms, poems) and classical Yoruba language our forefathers speak, we have professors that had to study the Yoruba culture to know it deep root in language, we have people like Professor Wole Soyinka and many professors and foreign professors, even a lot of Brazilians are studying Yoruba culture.

So don't try to paint Arabic to be so special than other languages.


The sunni believe in all those hadiths, they are ready to defend those hadiths.

So why are they fighting?

Empiree:
As albaqir rightly replied you up there that's just what it is

You are incredible. You remind me of Arab friend of mine back in 2006. I wen to him to enlighten me of a verse of Quran i was having problem with. I went to him basically because he is Arab and most definitely understood the ayah. He didnt hesitate a second before telling me "i don't know".

I was expecting him to say something but he truy have no idea. I had pre-existing idea and tried to put him through but he kept telling me to ask scholar. I was speechless. This dude speak arabic fluently but has no idea what Quran is saying. How do you think you possibly grasped message fo Quran?. It takes years of studies my friend. Speaking arabic (Lughatul arabiya) is one thing, understanding lughatul quran is another.

Imagine large number of Yoruba people now speak "protestant yoruba". These Oyinbo people you talked about even understand ijinle yoruba better than many yoruba people. So you gonna have to provide other alleged version of Quran. This challenge stands.

AlBaqir:


# Ma sha Allah. That is exactly what I am saying. You have perfectly highlighted it yourself. You don't just go to one ile kewu abélé and know how to read (alone without the proper understanding or knowing the art of use of the language) and said boldly you understand Quran. You need to study the language, use of it, its culture (as you yourself opined).

I don't expect one vagabond to come from nowhere and said he has understood IFA and opele and Yoruba culture merely reading the book.

tintingz:



There is nothing special about the Quran text again nothing special. Like have said the Arabs during Muhammad's(SA) speak classical Arabic which was the language used for the Quran, they understand the Quran text.

If i learn the classical Arabic, I can write my own scripture, shebi na just to rewrite some Jewish stories and give laws, in fact my own version will be updated with accurate scientific discoveries, medics, psychology, technology.

I hope I will not be beheaded.

Empiree:
why do they have different dialects, variant recitation and why did they need nabi (s) to explain many verses of Quran to them?

Very well then. Let's do some "reality check" or reality testing.



*AN INTERVIEW WITH BIBLE AND QUR'AN:*

*What is your name?*

Bible: I don't know
Quran: my name is Qur'an, (surah 36:2)

*Where did you come from?*
➡Bible: I don't know
➡Quran: from Allah. (Surah 39:1)

*What is your religion?*
➡Bible: I don't know
➡Quran: Islam. (surah 3:19)

*Did you tell Christians to go to church on Sundays?*
➡Bible: NO they chose that day themselves
➡Quran: yes I instruct Muslims to go to mosque on Fridays. ( surah 62:9).

*Why are you not in your original language?*
➡Bible: because people have made a lot of changes in me.
➡Quran:I'm in my original language Arabic and not corrupted.(surah 12:2)

*Why do you have so many contradictions?*
➡Bible: because I'm written by unknown people.Jeremiah 8:8
➡Quran: I don't have any contradiction because I'm from God.(surah 4:82)

*Why do you have so many scientific errors?*
➡Bible: because l've made many many silly mistakes.eg. I said that "the rabbit chew its cud"(Leviticus 11:6)
➡Quran:I don't have a single scientific error.eg I said that "moon light is a reflected or borrowed light from the sun" therefore i'm as compatible as with modern science (surah 25:61)

tintingz:
Because it was written by him, so they need him to explain what he wrote, Jesus(AS) speak in parables his disciples always ask him to explain his words.
Muhammad (SA) wrote in dialect of the arab people which is the tribes, Quraysh was Muhammad's tribe.

Bible means "Holy book, paper, scroll" it is a collection that contain Torah, gospel and Jewish stories. Having name is not an issue.

Lol, the collection of the bible was inspired by Yahweh a.k.a Jehova a.k.a Eloi to Prophets and men of God.

This is not an issue.

- Judaism is gotten from Judah and they(Jews) are the chosen people of God(Exodus 19:5), (Exodus 19:6), (Deuteronomy 7:7-.

- Jesus(AS) came and said the covenant as been taken from the Jesus and given to another(Mathew 21:43) and He established new covenant (Hebrews 8:6-13), and he's the way the truth and life(John 14:6). Christ followers are called Christians(Acts 11:26).

Abeg who are the chosen people na?

Lol, Christians will argue with you that there are contractions in Quran and even mention verses, but Muslims will say it is a context thing but wont accept if Christians said same.

Empiree:
you are getting interesting and confused EVERYDAY! This is another allegation you made here that Quran was written by the holy prophet muhammad (Allah's Peace and Blessing be upon him). Do you have evidence to back it off?. DOnt you think you will to stick to little 'science' you understand rather than delving what you have no idea of?.

Name is something becuase every tom, dick and harry can write anything. There are several UNKNOWN authors of many books in the Bible.

Interesting!....you sound like UNDERCOVER jesuit though

It is. Quran calls itself by name indicating it is not authored by none other than Allah.

Sorry, they are "chosen" on conditions of faith and righteousness. They have broken their covenants. So chosen my foot

perhaps, this thread exposes your reality and confusion

Sorry, buddy. There is no longer "chosen people" by birthright or nationality. Chosen people are not Arabs either but muslims (regardless of color and languages, race or nationality)

Onus on you



You are incredible

Empiree:
They are trying harder but failing still.


COPIED AS RECEIVED

INNA LILLAHI WA INNA ILAIHI RAJI UN!!!
asalamu alaikum warrahmatullah brothers and sisters in islam..
This is to inform you and all the muslim ummah around the world.
There is a complete quran application which some of the android phone come with. It was realized and revealed by a scholar here in danfodio university sokoto Nigeria(mallam yahaya kaura).
In the quranic application there is an addition of some words in suratul Al~imran. Which was seen clearly in the above picture..
Please he who come across this message share it around the world for other muslim ummah.
OH ALLAH DESTROY NON BELIEVERS AND THOSE THAT ARE WITH THEM..
AMEEN.
IF YOU AGREE SHARE AND ALWAYS SAY AMEEN.
Via. Muhammad Ali

tintingz:
So what should we call this Quran version?

Empiree:
expecting u to say that. VERSION?. WHEre is the standard of it?. They have been doing this for donkey years but Quran comes out clean. It all statrted just right after demise of the prophet(s) when someone tried to copycat. Quran however is memorized by millions of muslims which makes it absolutely impossible for interposition.

This is even criminal act. I hope you know that. So challenge stands to bring forward another Quran

tintingz:
Egbon mi, what should we call the Quran version you posted earlier? That was what I asked.

Empiree:
No, it is not a version. Part of guaranteed protection that Quran talks about is that they don't survive anytime they come up with nonsense. We detect them and they are rejected collectively unlike other Books.

Many came before this but are not gone today. Even this one self seems to be old. Looks like i saw this before but it was sent to me yesterdsy.


Verily We: It is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e. the Qur'an) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption). Al-Hijr 9

tintingz:
But some people will read that Quran without noticing the add ups.

Any book can be rewrite, it is left for the religious scholars to detect it just like gay bible was detected, Al-furqan(the true furqan), the one you posted and many others.

Empiree:
I think what i am trying to tell you is that, it will NEVER spread. That's number one. It will NEVER be approved by any religious authority (ISlam). This is simple major difference from christianity. All those versions they printed have COPY RIGHTS/AUTHORITY/PERMISSION.

Spot the difference?.

Even though many christians in Nigeria for instance may detest "gay Bible" but their opinions about it dont count SO LONG the author of the book is backed up by authority. That's NEVER gonna happen with Quran. Qurans are printed by authority or certified printing places.

As for whether some people might read the one like this one, Well, I imagine you talking about laymen. That's normal bcus at some point, we all stumble on pronunciations of those words anyways. So this is how we detect them and they are gone for good. Look at "furqan". It is been around since 1999 but who really cares about it?. With our eyes wide open we know it is Bible in disguise and they dont even hide their trash.

Quran is too spread and memorized to be versioned.


Besides that, there are assigned agents (malaikat, ruhaniyat etc) under every araf/kalima of Quran that are protecting them. Please see the thread titled "Seeing Malaika" the one you just commented on and check out !kupakuti comments on that. So it is really impossible for them. They can only try and try harder but go no where.

tintingz:
Gay bible(Queen James bible) is just a mistranslation to support gay, the original text of Hebrew bible does not support gay.

There is no authority approving Queen James bible in the christiandom, there is no canon law that approved the gay bible, all what you posted are just assumptions.

Where are the references to the back up?

Al-furqan was twisted to flow like Quran but has christian traditions, just like gay bible was twisted from Hebrew bible. How many Christians are reading gay bible?

Lol, it can be versioned just accept it, just that it can't be widespread.

Empiree:
Na wa oo. In my quest to reply you, i found this one just now, Geneva Bible

Never heard of it.

Between, I dont know why you focused only on Queens/gay bible when others abound. Not to even talk of King James and Revised Standard Versions. These are rivals because RSV exposes KJV. Thats just messed. Go and read preface of RSV.

Still coming back if i can find copyrights for Gay Bible. Truly it is my assumption but it is widespread which means that just can happen by accident. They must have got copyright or approval.

tintingz:
Geneva is said to be the first English translated bible then king James was the next, I use to think king James was the first translated English bible.
Geneva is just an ealry bible translation, nothing fuss about it.

Queen James bible is the gay bible i know which is not under canon law approval, king James and Revised standard versions are just translation just like Yusuf Ali, Picktall translation version of Quran.

RSV was translated to modern English for people to get the bible message clearer, RSV was authorized by the church. Geneva was also authorized by the church of England.

Do you know Al-furqan is on amazon? How do you think I got the Al-furqan copy? I just Google it and downloaded the PDF. I've not seen Christians reading gay bible, even catholics don't read gay bible.

We're in jet age, we can now post things on internet and whoala it goes viral, it is left for the religious clerics to debunk it.

tintingz:
@Em.piree, whay are you trying to find faults in the christiandom and trying to cover the faults in the Muslim community when it is glaring.

This your way of thinking will not help, this is the debate that will never end for the religious people, I'm born a Muslim I know there are faults in the Muslim community, nothing is perfect.

Empiree:
Not me. Read preface of RSV. Lobatan

I dont care about christianity so. It isnt my problem. And "faults" you talking about in islamic community, yes, we do. But here we talking about Quran