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Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by oaroloye(m): 7:16am On Mar 15, 2017
SHALOM!

A co-worker just forwarded this to me on WHATSAPP:

[b]*PASTOR W. F. KUMUYI MESSAGE TO THE CHURCHES*

I slept around 10:20pm, not quite long after laying on the bed, I heard God calling Me Audibly So I Woke Up. When I Checked My Time, It Was 11:30P.M. Suddenly, I Felt The Urge To Pray So I Left The Bedroom To The sitting room & started Praying._
_All Of A Sudden, My Eyes Opened And I Was In Another Realm. I Saw An Array Of Ladies Both Young And Old, Very Beautiful, Coming From The Sea Side. And I Asked God; Who Are These?_ And He Said, _*"These Are Marine Spirits That Have Been Commissioned By The Devil To Drag Many To The Kingdom Of Darkness. His Time Is Almost Up And He Has Vowed To Cause Many To Fall"*_. I Asked, Why Women? He Responded, _*"They Are Not Really Women But Are Evil Spirits That Have Taken A Feminine Form."*_

_So I Asked; What Is Their Mission And He Said, See! All Of A Sudden I Saw, People Having Sex. What Amazed Me Was That Some Were Having Sex By The Wayside, Some In Bushes, Some On Beaches, Some In Offices And In Open Places. So, I Asked Why?_ And He Said _*"These Are Sent To Spread Lust And Cause Many To Fall Into The Sin Of Fornication."*_ He Said, *"Very Soon, Fornication Will Be Legalized."*

*"The Spirits Are Meant To Befriend Many Young Ladies, Show Them Care And Eventually Initiate Them To Be Used By The Enemy."* _I Saw Many Young Ladies. Unsuspecting Ladies Being Initiated And As Soon As They Were Initiated, They Had An Insatiable Desire For Sex._

_I Also Saw Sugar Mummies Luring Young Men With Money And Cars. Right After Sleeping With Them, They Are Gone._

_I Saw New Dresses Being Introduced. Dresses That Expose All Parts Of The Body. In Fact, I Saw A Very Fair Lady That Was Almost Naked. About 3 Quarter Of Her Breast Was Exposed And The Dress She Wore Was Very Transparent That One Could Virtually See Her unclothedness. Then I Saw Many People Buying These Dresses; Skimpy Short Skirts And Transparent Leggings And Blouses That Expose The Cleavage. Bleaching Of The Skin Was On The Rise. I Saw Them Pouring Potions On The Eye To Lure Men With Their Eyes_.

*"Tell The Church To Watch"*, He Said. *"They Will Try To Enter The Church, Target Pastors And Members, Especially From Choirs."* _I Saw Members Of The Church Being Possessed And Sleeping With Each Other_.

_*Amazingly,*_ _I Saw Two Ladies In A Particular Choir That Were Lesbians. Then I Saw Men Of God Sleeping With Members. Some Slept With Members Before They Mounted Pulpits._

_I Saw That Pastors Are Battling Within Because There Is Not Just A Crack But An Opening On The Wall. Satan Has Entered Their Lives. Some Were Caught In The Web Of Pornography And Masturbation._

_In Fact, I Saw A Particular Pastor Watching Pornography And Masturbating In His Room. To Him The Room Was Locked And He Thought No One Was Seeing Him But I Saw That The Wall To His Room Facing The Public Was Broken And People Were Watching Him Without His Knowledge. And God Said To Me_ *"Whatever Is Being Done In Secret Is Already Open."*

_I Also Saw Women Becoming Unsubmissive And Disrespectful To Their Husbands And This Act Frustrated Husbands To Fall Prey To These Spirits When They Left Home._

_I Saw Many Being Manipulated Through Food And Clothes. And I Saw Many Chains As Well. And He Said To Me,_ *"These Are Chains Of Addiction That Has Kept Many People In Sexual Bondage."*

_Some Women Were Showering Enchanted Gifts To Pastors And Were Gradually Changing Their Status._

*"Tell My People To Stay Within The Boundaries Of My Word. Let Them Not Depart From Them. Tell Them To Watch And Pray. Let Them Be Focused On Me And This Will Help Them Avoid Every Distraction Of The Enemy."*

BITTER TRUTH: -
Believed It Or Not, Accept It Or Not.
You Can Be In Deeper Life Bible Church And Your Life Can Still Be Shallow And Deep In Sin.*_

_*You Can Attend The Redeemed Christian Church Of God And Yet Your Life Remains Unredeemed.*_

_*You Can Be A Member Of Winner's Chapel And Still Be A Slave Of Sin, Fulfilling All It's Lusts Till You Die.*_

_*You Can Be In Mountain Of Fire Ministries And Your Life Is Still In The Valley Of Lukewarmness And Spiritual Coldness.*_

_*You Can Be Among The Salvation Army And Still Suffer Defeat; Not Knowing What It Means To Be Saved From Sin*_.

_*You Can Be In Christ Embassy And Still Be Working Directly As Satan's Immoral Ambassador In His Evil Embassy.*_

_*You Can Be In Dunamis And Yet You Remain Powerless Spiritually, Lacking Basic Grace!*_

_*You Can Attend The Lord's Chosen Church And Yet Be Among The Rejected Many.*_

_*You Can Speak In Tongues And Miss Heaven.*_

_*You Can "Win Souls" And Miss Heaven.*_

_*You Can See Vision And Miss Heaven*_.

_*You Can Cast Out Devil And Miss Heaven.*_

_*You Can Perform Miracles And Still Miss Heaven.*_

_*You Can Read The Whole Bible And Miss Heaven.*_

_*You Can Attend All Fellowship Activities And Camp meetings And Miss Heaven.*_

_*You Can Have Anointing And Miss Heaven*_.

_*You Can Have All Spiritual Gifts And Miss Heaven*_.

_You Can Wield Power And Unction And Still Miss Heaven._

_*But You CANNOT Live A HOLY LIFE AND MISS HEAVEN....*_

_*HOLINESS IS THE REAL DEAL !*_

_Thanks For Your Attention._
_Forwarding This Post Is Evangelism_.
_Please Take A Part In It And Forward To Contacts Or Groups[truncated by WhatsApp[/b]

I do not have a high opinion of anyone who calls themselves a "PASTOR;" that is CONTRARY to YAHSHUA'S EXPLICIT COMMANDMENT. Anyone following such people deserve everything they get.

I have tried to warn you before, but been HUGELY IGNORED.

(Over 130 views, but only THREE Comments- on an issue as important as that "ALL CLERGYMEN ARE FAKE!")

I do not follow W.F. KUMUYI'S TEACHINGS, but if this is truly from him, I am afraid I must revise my former estimate of his intelligence and intellect, and that of his followers- downwards.
Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by Wackyrichy(m): 7:18am On Mar 15, 2017
Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by Nobody: 8:08am On Mar 15, 2017
See when i small na him i dey hear all dis one. No be new tin
Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by carzola(m): 8:13am On Mar 15, 2017
Next time God talks to you tell
Him Nigerians are suffering
Not some bullshit karashika
Movie.

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Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by LordCenturion(m): 8:24am On Mar 15, 2017
If truly he saw all this and hear some words, sorry I have to say this, the man is on medication due to his old age or maybe someone mistakenly cook oshogbo weed for him instead of ugu....
Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by OJODEL10(m): 10:58am On Mar 15, 2017
either Baba kumuyi saw this or felt its something that is about to happened, the truth is that our time is most corrupt and immoral is on the increase. so let's be careful

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Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by luvmijeje(f): 11:33am On Mar 15, 2017
Is it not happening already?

I dreamt 2 days ago that I was in a church listening to a pastor who was preaching an heresy and I was saying to myself what kind of preaching is this then the preaching ended suddenly. Then as l was about moving out of the church, I saw a long time friend who attends a white garment church. I was shocked and I ask her what was she doing in my church? As I was talking to her, she took me to the back of the church where I saw a white garment church holding their service and my friend told me that my church wasn't like this before. That it was more beautiful than this if not for the people holding services at the back of the church.

Then we moved out of the church via the back into a long street then I looked up, I then I saw a crowd of people who were putting on a white garment gown coming toward the church then I woke up.

This is what God told me. He said the crowd signify false prophets that has been sent out into the church.
Service held behind the church means they're coming in to pollute my church. Pastor preaching heresy means they will pollute my words. My friend was a personal message to me.

Believers should hold on tight to his God.

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Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by oaroloye(m): 12:10pm On Mar 15, 2017
SHALOM!

There was one paragraph in particular that drew my attention.

*PASTOR W. F. KUMUYI MESSAGE TO THE CHURCHES*

I slept around 10:20pm, not quite long after laying on the bed, I heard God calling Me Audibly So I Woke Up. When I Checked My Time, It Was 11:30P.M. Suddenly, I Felt The Urge To Pray So I Left The Bedroom To The sitting room & started Praying._
_All Of A Sudden, My Eyes Opened And I Was In Another Realm. I Saw An Array Of Ladies Both Young And Old, Very Beautiful, Coming From The Sea Side. And I Asked God; Who Are These?_ And He Said, _*"These Are Marine Spirits That Have Been Commissioned By The Devil To Drag Many To The Kingdom Of Darkness. His Time Is Almost Up And He Has Vowed To Cause Many To Fall"*_. I Asked, Why Women? He Responded, _*"They Are Not Really Women But Are Evil Spirits That Have Taken A Feminine Form."*_

_So I Asked; What Is Their Mission And He Said, See! All Of A Sudden I Saw, People Having Sex. What Amazed Me Was That Some Were Having Sex By The Wayside, Some In Bushes, Some On Beaches, Some In Offices And In Open Places. So, I Asked Why?_ And He Said _*"These Are Sent To Spread Lust And Cause Many To Fall Into The Sin Of Fornication."*_ He Said, *"Very Soon, Fornication Will Be Legalized."*

*"The Spirits Are Meant To Befriend Many Young Ladies, Show Them Care And Eventually Initiate Them To Be Used By The Enemy."* _I Saw Many Young Ladies. Unsuspecting Ladies Being Initiated And As Soon As They Were Initiated, They Had An Insatiable Desire For Sex._


_I Also Saw Sugar Mummies Luring Young Men With Money And Cars. Right After Sleeping With Them, They Are Gone._

"GONE?" What does that even mean?

"DEAD?"

No longer FINANCIAL MEMBERS of HIS Church?

This is ambiguous.

_I Saw New Dresses Being Introduced. Dresses That Expose All Parts Of The Body. In Fact, I Saw A Very Fair Lady That Was Almost Naked. About 3 Quarter Of Her Breast Was Exposed And The Dress She Wore Was Very Transparent That One Could Virtually See Her unclothedness. Then I Saw Many People Buying These Dresses; Skimpy Short Skirts And Transparent Leggings And Blouses That Expose The Cleavage. Bleaching Of The Skin Was On The Rise. I Saw Them Pouring Potions On The Eye To Lure Men With Their Eyes_.

THIS INTERESTED ME!

I have been doing this for a VERY LONG TIME.

THIRTY YEARS AGO, a White man named NEAL FRISBY wrote virtually the same Prophecy.

I was even impressed, until I learned that he seemed to have plagiarized it from a Prophecy by WILLIAM BRANHAM (see: SEVEN CHURCH AGES, by William Branham). It was part of one of the THREE VISIONS he had, of "WHAT MUST COME TO PASS BEFORE JESUS RETURNS."

One might note, that based on this (and two other "Visions from the Lord," William Branham "PREDICTED," ("NOT PROPHESIED," he allegedly qualified it,) that JESUS WOULD RETURN BY 1975, LATEST.

This caused GREAT CONSTERNATION amongst his followers- they QUIT JOBS, DROPPED OUT OF SCHOOL- and other things just to be "READY" to be "RAPTURED!"

(NOTE THAT WILLIAM BRANHAM- THE PROPHET WHO WAS "NEVER WRONG," DIED IN 1965.)

*"Tell The Church To Watch"*, He Said. *"They Will Try To Enter The Church, Target Pastors And Members, Especially From Choirs."* _I Saw Members Of The Church Being Possessed And Sleeping With Each Other_.

_*Amazingly,*_ _I Saw Two Ladies In A Particular Choir That Were Lesbians. Then I Saw Men Of God Sleeping With Members. Some Slept With Members Before They Mounted Pulpits._

_I Saw That Pastors Are Battling Within Because There Is Not Just A Crack But An Opening On The Wall. Satan Has Entered Their Lives. Some Were Caught In The Web Of Pornography And Masturbation._

_In Fact, I Saw A Particular Pastor Watching Pornography And Masturbating In His Room. To Him The Room Was Locked And He Thought No One Was Seeing Him But I Saw That The Wall To His Room Facing The Public Was Broken And People Were Watching Him Without His Knowledge. And God Said To Me_ *"Whatever Is Being Done In Secret Is Already Open."*

_I Also Saw Women Becoming Unsubmissive And Disrespectful To Their Husbands And This Act Frustrated Husbands To Fall Prey To These Spirits When They Left Home._

_I Saw Many Being Manipulated Through Food And Clothes. And I Saw Many Chains As Well. And He Said To Me,_ *"These Are Chains Of Addiction That Has Kept Many People In Sexual Bondage."*

_Some Women Were Showering Enchanted Gifts To Pastors And Were Gradually Changing Their Status._

*"Tell My People To Stay Within The Boundaries Of My Word. Let Them Not Depart From Them. Tell Them To Watch And Pray. Let Them Be Focused On Me And This Will Help Them Avoid Every Distraction Of The Enemy."*

BITTER TRUTH: -
Believed It Or Not, Accept It Or Not.
You Can Be In Deeper Life Bible Church And Your Life Can Still Be Shallow And Deep In Sin.*_

_*You Can Attend The Redeemed Christian Church Of God And Yet Your Life Remains Unredeemed.*_

_*You Can Be A Member Of Winner's Chapel And Still Be A Slave Of Sin, Fulfilling All It's Lusts Till You Die.*_

_*You Can Be In Mountain Of Fire Ministries And Your Life Is Still In The Valley Of Lukewarmness And Spiritual Coldness.*_

_*You can be among Salvation Army and still know Defeat; Not Knowing What It Means To Be Saved From Sin*_.

_*You Can Be In Christ Embassy And Still Be Working Directly As Satan's Immoral Ambassador In His Evil Embassy.*_

_*You Can Be In Dunamis And Yet You Remain Powerless Spiritually, Lacking Basic Grace!*_

_*You Can Attend The Lord's Chosen Church And Yet Be Among The Rejected Many.*_

_*You Can Speak In Tongues And Miss Heaven.*_

*You can Speak in Tongues and still miss Heaven.*_

_*You Can See Vision And Miss Heaven*_.

_*You Can Cast Out Devil And Miss Heaven.*_

_*You Can Perform Miracles And Still Miss Heaven.*_

_*You Can Read The Whole Bible And Miss Heaven.*_

_*You Can Attend All Fellowship Activities And Camp meetings And Miss Heaven.*_

_*You Can Have Anointing And Miss Heaven*_.

_*You Can Have All Spiritual Gifts And Miss Heaven*_.

_You Can Wield Power And Unction And Still Miss Heaven._

_*But You CANNOT Live A HOLY LIFE AND MISS HEAVEN....*_

THIS SHOWS COMPLETE IGNORANCE AS TO WHAT CONSTITUTES "HOLINESS," AND THE CRITERION FOR ENTERING HEAVEN.

"GOING TO HEAVEN" is NOT an END GOAL- it is MERELY a MILESTONE.

"GOING TO HEAVEN" is CHEAP!

Even SATAN can DO that.

WORSHIPPERS OF GOD were required to PRESENT THEMSELVES BEFORE THE LORD, three times annually.

Therefore, it follows that CHRISTIANS are EXPECTED to use THE FIFTH TALENT OF POWER to Ascend into Heaven and Assemble before GOD- three times annually.

_*HOLINESS IS THE REAL DEAL !*_

"HOLINESS" is a CONCENTRATION of Spiritual Energy to Divine Levels.

Spiritual Energy (Zoë) is accumulated by PROLONGED RIGHTEOUS ACTIONS

FORGIVENESS CANNOT MAKE ONE "HOLY."

That is what FOLLOWERS OF PAUL do not understand, receive, nor believe.

_Thanks For Your Attention._
_Forwarding This Post Is Evangelism_.
_Please Take A Part In It And Forward To Contacts Or Groups[truncated by WhatsApp]

I find it hard to believe that this rant could have been published by W.F. KUMUYI.

Perhaps it was cobbled together from things he has said or written over the years?
Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by enshy: 12:18pm On Mar 15, 2017
oaroloye:
SHALOM!

A co-worker just forwarded this to me on WHATSAPP:



I do not have a high opinion of anyone who calls themselves a "PASTOR;" that is CONTRARY to YAHSHUA'S EXPLICIT COMMANDMENT. Anyone following such people deserve everything they get.

I have tried to warn you before, but been HUGELY IGNORED.

(Over 130 views, but only THREE Comments- on an issue as important as that "ALL CLERGYMEN ARE FAKE!")

I do not follow W.F. KUMUYI'S TEACHINGS, but if this is truly from him, I am afraid I must revise my former estimate of his intelligence and intellect, and that of his followers- downwards.
I though you had integrity.
I never knew you were so cheap. You used Kumuyi's name so you can get people to open your thread!
How can Pas Kumuyi preach such watery message?
He preaches Bible not night dreams!
May God forgive you this spread of falsehood.
There couldnt have been a good intention to your ignorance!!

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Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by zik4ever: 12:30pm On Mar 15, 2017
Please all should note that this is definitely not from Pastor WF Kumuyi. Some guy probably cooked it up and has been circulating it even on WhatsApp. Pastor Kumuyi's stance is to "preach the word" and "speak the word only". This is not his style but it any case, before you comment, are you saved? Are you born again? Have you made peace with your maker through repentance from sin and faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Eternity is real and near! Unless ye repent, ye shall likewise perish.

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Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by oaroloye(m): 12:35pm On Mar 15, 2017
SHALOM!

enshy:

I though you had integrity.
I never knew you were so cheap. You used Kumuyi's name so you can get people to open your thread!
How can Pas Kumuyi preach such watery message?
He preaches Bible not night dreams!
May God forgive you this spread of falsehood.
There couldnt have been a good intention to your ignorance!!

I HAVE INTEGRITY- THEREFORE I ASKED WHETHER IT WERE TRUE THAT W.F. KUMUYI SAID THIS.

It is well known that OYINBO TELEVANGELISTS use these techniques.

Our own preachers have copied them.

I would not be surprised if W.F. KUMUYI could communicate such a Message- but the narrative fell apart the longer it went on.

The end of it was trucnated, so I have no idea how it really ended- THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A DISCLAIMER THAT HE WAS THE ORIGINAL AUTHOR.

YOU AFFIRM that this is NOT consistent with his style of preaching.

That is important information that people need to know.
Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by enshy: 12:44pm On Mar 15, 2017
oaroloye:
SHALOM!



I HAVE INTEGRITY- THEREFORE I ASKED WHETHER IT WERE TRUE THAT W.F. KUMUYI SAID THIS.

It is well known that OYINBO TELEVANGELISTS use these techniques.

Our own preachers have copied them.

I would not be surprised if W.F. KUMUYI could communicate such a Message- but the narrative fell apart the longer it went on.

The end of it was trucnated, so I have no idea how it really ended- THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A DISCLAIMER THAT HE WAS THE ORIGINAL AUTHOR.

YOU AFFIRM that this is NOT consistent with his style of preaching.

That is important information that people need to know.
Why didnt you find out before publishing such falsehood in the garb of you wanting to know the Truth?
My Bro, you dont have to help propagate the devil and his news in the guise of searching for the Truth lest you pitch your tent against God.
I was surprised this came from you cos I'd been consuming some of your other posts and rated you far about the purpose of this thread.
Anyway, This cannot be from Past Kumuyi, He preaches the Word/Bible and not demonic dreams nd visions. Let all disregard this falsehood.
God's standard is the Word, thats what we should propagate and not vain dreams, visions and revelations

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Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by oaroloye(m): 12:49pm On Mar 15, 2017
SHALOM!

zik4ever:
Please all should note that this is definitely not from Pastor WF Kumuyi. Some guy probably cooked it up and has been circulating it even on WhatsApp.

These sorts of information are very important.

People need to know when people are being defamed, on a case-by-case basis.

How much time can a man have, to answer every detractor?

That should be his Disciples' Job.

Pastor Kumuyi's stance is to "preach the word" and "speak the word only".

He may have SAID that- I just don't believe that he does that- based on the effect of his teachings on his followers.

This is not his style but it any case, before you comment, are you saved? Are you born again? Have you made peace with your maker through repentance from sin and faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Eternity is real and near! Unless ye repent, ye shall likewise perish.

I can definitely attest that I AM NOT SAVED.

I have been "BORN AGAIN," but I was NEVER a CHILD OF GOD.

I did the HOLY GHOST BAPTISM WITH-EVIDENCE-OF-SPEAKING-IN-TONGUES thing, but found that IT IS NOT WHAT THE OYINBOS SAY IT IS.

I do not DECEIVE people as to my STATUS, nor my INTENTIONS.

How about YOU?

I know about the Reality of HELL- but I am hardly in danger of going THERE should I die presently.

My Soul would definitely not SURVIVE long enough in the AfterLife to REACH Hell.

Despite my peril of Eternal Damnation, I will not be party to misleading people.
Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by GoodMuyis(m): 2:21pm On Mar 15, 2017
not from him, it has being debunked long time ago
https://dclm.org/about/official-web-sites/
Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by enshy: 2:34pm On Mar 15, 2017
GoodMuyis:
not from him, it has being debunked long time ago

https://dclm.org/about/official-web-sites/
You have done well Bro In Christ.
You have just put the falsehood to death!
Welldone and your labour shall not be in vain...Amen!
Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by oaroloye(m): 1:14am On Mar 16, 2017
OJODEL10:
either Baba kumuyi saw this or felt its something that is about to happened, the truth is that our time is most corrupt and immoral is on the increase. so let's be careful

But has he been known to say such things in the past? Is there any authentic recorded Message from him where he preached such a thing.?
Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by oaroloye(m): 1:55am On Mar 16, 2017
SHALOM!

GoodMuyis:
not from him, it has being debunked long time ago

https://dclm.org/about/official-web-sites/

THIS EXPLAINS EVERYTHING!

This means that the truncated part of the Message must have contained the solicitation for donations!

However, a MONEY-TRAIL means that the culprit can be TRACED and IDENTIFIED.

He (or she!) SHOULD be arrested for fraud.

This seems to be the work of someone going by "WILLIAMS F. KUMUYI" at least on FACEBOOK.

This is EXTREMELY SERIOUS, and CANNOT be allowed to SLIDE. FORGIVENESS CANNOT APPLY, HERE.

The person or person's must be ASKED to STOP.

They probably won't- but that is the RIGHTEOUS thing to do. After they have ignored the requisite TWO OR THREE WITNESSES, the ENTIRE DEEPER LIFE FELLOWSHIP WORLDWIDE must COMMENT on his account, and TELL THEM TO STOP, at least ONCE.

It should make WORLD HISTORY.

ONLY WHEN THEY REFUSE THEIR WHOLE CHURCH SHOULD THE POLICE BE CALLED IN.

This is NOT a SUGGESTION; it is their DUTY BY GOD AND THEIR NEIGHBOURS!

This is NOT something you can say. "LIVE AND LET LIVE- Ha! Ha!" over!

You see... YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW THE MONEY GATHERED IS BEING USED.

How does W.F. KUMUYI KNOW that this money is not being used to fund TERRORISM?

That appropriate action to shut this wickedness down has not been taken can be interpreted in several ways, but THE BOTTOM LINE is that NO ONE IN DEEPER LIFE. FELLOWSHIP CARES how the money is used.

They would have to obey "LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF" to THINK in THAT direction. The indictment against them is that THEY DON'T.

My EXPERIENCES with DEEPER LIFE FELLOWSHIP us that THEY DO NOT LOVE THOSE WHO DO NOT LOVE THEM.

Anybody who has had different experiences with DEEPER LIFE FELLOWSHIP has a DUTY to SPEAK UP, and TESTIFY that they are NOT ALL HYPOCRITES!
Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by oaroloye(m): 3:04am On Mar 16, 2017
SHALOM!

enshy:

You have done well Bro In Christ.
You have just put the falsehood to death!

Are you MENTAL?

You call THIS "PUTTING THE FALSEHOOD TO DEATH?"

Did you ever see a place in The Old Testament, where THE ENEMY was sighted, and someone blew a horn, and cried: "THE ENEMY IS OVER THERE!" and EVERYBODY WENT HOME- because The Enemy had just been TOTALLY PUT TO DEATH!

You see, all those "USELESS WAR STORIES" are in The Bible for a REASON: so that we can KNOW WHAT WAR IS.

The War is NOT over, until THE ENEMY is HORIZONTAL If the Enemy is still VERTICAL, there is still a PROBLEM.

. 2and KINGS 13:14-19.

14 . Now Elisha was fallen sick
of his sickness whereof he died.
And Joash the king of Israel
came down unto him,
and wept over his face, and said,
"O my father, my father,
the Chariot of Israel,
and the Horsemen thereof."
15. And Elisha said unto him,
"Take bow and arrows."
And he took unto him bow and arrows.
16 .And he said to the king of Israel,
"Put thine hand upon the bow."
And he put his hand upon it:
and Elisha put his hands
upon the king's hands.
17. And he said,
"Open the window eastward."
And he opened it.
Then Elisha said,
"Shoot."
And he shot.
And he said,
"The Arrow of The LORD'S Deliverance,
and the Arrow of Deliverance from Syria:
for thou shalt smite the Syrians in Aphek,
till thou have consumed them."
18. And he said,
"Take the arrows."
And he took them.
And he said unto the king of Israel,
"Smite upon the ground."
And he smote thrice, and stayed.
19. And the Man of God
was wroth with him,
and said,
"Thou shouldest have smitten
five or six times;
then hadst thou smitten Syria
till thou hadst consumed it:
whereas now
thou shalt smite Syria
but thrice."


JOASH. SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER.

Whatever excuses he might have had for not knowing that he should have "WHUP-ASS UNLOADED" at that point, WE DO NOT- because GOD IS SHOWING US HOW HE JUDGES.

Instead of LEARNING FROM ME, so-called CHRISTIANS, even supposed FULL GOSPEL PENTECOSTALS, even DEEPER LIFE FELLOWSHIP Members are MOCKING MY EXAMPLE.

I quote THE WORD OF OUR GOD, and THEY scoff: "HE TALKS TOO MUCH!"

All many of them do, is throw out two or three lines- like they are feeding SCRAPS to DOGS- and say: "IF IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO SAVE THEM, IT'S NOT MY CONCERN!"

THAT is "ALL THY MIGHT" to THEM!

When you have the AWARENESS that WE ARE ALL CONNECTED, you CARE about OTHER PEOPLE'S PROBLEMS, and whether you are part of their SOLUTIONS, or one of the PROBLEMS yourself!

Welldone and your labour shall not be in vain...Amen!

This is the Flattery of an UNJUST. STEWARD!

. LUKE 16:1-17.

AND he said also unto his Disciples,
"There was a certain rich man, which had a steward; and the same was accused unto him that he had wasted his goods.
2. "And he called him, and said unto him,


'HOW IS IT THAT I HEAR THIS OF THEE? GIVE AN ACCOUNT OF THY STEWARDSHIP; FOR THOU MAYEST BE NO LONGER STEWARD.'

3. "Then the steward said within himself,

'WHAT SHALL I DO? FOR MY LORD TAKETH AWAY FROM ME THE STEWARDSHIP: I CANNOT DIG; TO BEG I AM ASHAMED. 4. 'I AM RESOLVED WHAT TO DO, THAT, WHEN I AM PUT OUT OF THE STEWARDSHIP, THEY MAY RECEIVE ME INTO THEIR HOUSES.'

5. "So he called every one of his lord's debtors unto him, and said unto the first,

'HOW MUCH OWEST THOU UNTO MY LORD?'

6. "And he said, 'AN HUNDRED MEASURES OF OIL.' And he said unto him,

'TAKE THY BILL, AND SIT DOWN QUICKLY, AND WRITE FIFTY.'

7. "Then said he to another,

'AND HOW MUCH OWEST THOU?'

And he said,

'AN HUNDRED MEASURES OF WHEAT.'

And he said unto him,

'TAKE THY BILL, AND WRITE FOURSCORE.'

8. "And the lord commended the Unjust Steward, because he had done wisely: for the Children of this World are in their Generation wiser than the Children of Light. 9. "And I say unto you,

'MAKE TO YOURSELVES FRIENDS OF THE MAMMON OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS; THAT, WHEN YE FAIL, THEY MAY RECEIVE YOU INTO EVERLASTING HABITATIONS.'

10. "He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much. 11. "If therefore ye have not been faithful in the Unrighteous Mammon, who will commit to your trust The True Riches?
12. "And if ye have not been faithful in that which is another man's, who shall give you that which is your own?
13. "No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon."
14. And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him.
15. And he said unto them,
"Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is Abomination in The Sight of God.
16. "The Law and the Prophets were until John: since that time The Kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into It.
17. "And it is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass, than one tittle of The Law to fail."


INCOMPLETE JOBS ARE NOT "WELL-DONE!"
Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by enshy: 9:48am On Mar 16, 2017
oaroloye:
SHALOM!



Are you MENTAL?

You call THIS "PUTTING THE FALSEHOOD TO DEATH?"

Did you ever see a place in The Old Testament, where THE ENEMY was sighted, and someone blew a horn, and cried: "THE ENEMY IS OVER THERE!" and EVERYBODY WENT HOME- because The Enemy had just been TOTALLY PUT TO DEATH!

You see, all those "USELESS WAR STORIES" are in The Bible for a REASON: so that we can KNOW WHAT WAR IS.

The War is NOT over, until THE ENEMY is HORIZONTAL If the Enemy is still VERTICAL, there is still a PROBLEM.

. 2and KINGS 13:14-19.

14 . Now Elisha was fallen sick
of his sickness whereof he died.
And Joash the king of Israel
came down unto him,
and wept over his face, and said,
"O my father, my father,
the Chariot of Israel,
and the Horsemen thereof."
15. And Elisha said unto him,
"Take bow and arrows."
And he took unto him bow and arrows.
16 .And he said to the king of Israel,
"Put thine hand upon the bow."
And he put his hand upon it:
and Elisha put his hands
upon the king's hands.
17. And he said,
"Open the window eastward."
And he opened it.
Then Elisha said,
"Shoot."
And he shot.
And he said,
"The Arrow of The LORD'S Deliverance,
and the Arrow of Deliverance from Syria:
for thou shalt smite the Syrians in Aphek,
till thou have consumed them."
18. And he said,
"Take the arrows."
And he took them.
And he said unto the king of Israel,
"Smite upon the ground."
And he smote thrice, and stayed.
19. And the Man of God
was wroth with him,
and said,
"Thou shouldest have smitten
five or six times;
then hadst thou smitten Syria
till thou hadst consumed it:
whereas now
thou shalt smite Syria
but thrice."


JOASH. SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER.

Whatever excuses he might have had for not knowing that he should have "WHUP-ASS UNLOADED" at that point, WE DO NOT- because GOD IS SHOWING US HOW HE JUDGES.

Instead of LEARNING FROM ME, so-called CHRISTIANS, even supposed FULL GOSPEL PENTECOSTALS, even DEEPER LIFE FELLOWSHIP Members are MOCKING MY EXAMPLE.

I quote THE WORD OF OUR GOD, and THEY scoff: "HE TALKS TOO MUCH!"

All many of them do, is throw out two or three lines- like they are feeding SCRAPS to DOGS- and say: "IF IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO SAVE THEM, IT'S NOT MY CONCERN!"

THAT is "ALL THY MIGHT" to THEM!

When you have the AWARENESS that WE ARE ALL CONNECTED, you CARE about OTHER PEOPLE'S PROBLEMS, and whether you are part of their SOLUTIONS, or one of the PROBLEMS yourself!



This is the Flattery of an UNJUST. STEWARD!

. LUKE 16:1-17.

AND he said also unto his Disciples,
"There was a certain rich man, which had a steward; and the same was accused unto him that he had wasted his goods.
2. "And he called him, and said unto him,


'HOW IS IT THAT I HEAR THIS OF THEE? GIVE AN ACCOUNT OF THY STEWARDSHIP; FOR THOU MAYEST BE NO LONGER STEWARD.'

3. "Then the steward said within himself,

'WHAT SHALL I DO? FOR MY LORD TAKETH AWAY FROM ME THE STEWARDSHIP: I CANNOT DIG; TO BEG I AM ASHAMED. 4. 'I AM RESOLVED WHAT TO DO, THAT, WHEN I AM PUT OUT OF THE STEWARDSHIP, THEY MAY RECEIVE ME INTO THEIR HOUSES.'

5. "So he called every one of his lord's debtors unto him, and said unto the first,

'HOW MUCH OWEST THOU UNTO MY LORD?'

6. "And he said, 'AN HUNDRED MEASURES OF OIL.' And he said unto him,

'TAKE THY BILL, AND SIT DOWN QUICKLY, AND WRITE FIFTY.'

7. "Then said he to another,

'AND HOW MUCH OWEST THOU?'

And he said,

'AN HUNDRED MEASURES OF WHEAT.'

And he said unto him,

'TAKE THY BILL, AND WRITE FOURSCORE.'

8. "And the lord commended the Unjust Steward, because he had done wisely: for the Children of this World are in their Generation wiser than the Children of Light. 9. "And I say unto you,

'MAKE TO YOURSELVES FRIENDS OF THE MAMMON OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS; THAT, WHEN YE FAIL, THEY MAY RECEIVE YOU INTO EVERLASTING HABITATIONS.'

10. "He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much. 11. "If therefore ye have not been faithful in the Unrighteous Mammon, who will commit to your trust The True Riches?
12. "And if ye have not been faithful in that which is another man's, who shall give you that which is your own?
13. "No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon."
14. And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him.
15. And he said unto them,
"Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is Abomination in The Sight of God.
16. "The Law and the Prophets were until John: since that time The Kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into It.
17. "And it is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass, than one tittle of The Law to fail."


INCOMPLETE JOBS ARE NOT "WELL-DONE!"
You must be so vast in scriptures that you never knew rumour mongering and peddling of falsehood is as evil as Wickedness.
Please learn to summarize, you derail your intentions with lengthy, ambigouous sentences!
Ild rather read few words of Wisdom!!
Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by enshy: 9:49am On Mar 16, 2017
oaroloye:
SHALOM!



Are you MENTAL?

You call THIS "PUTTING THE FALSEHOOD TO DEATH?"

Did you ever see a place in The Old Testament, where THE ENEMY was sighted, and someone blew a horn, and cried: "THE ENEMY IS OVER THERE!" and EVERYBODY WENT HOME- because The Enemy had just been TOTALLY PUT TO DEATH!

You see, all those "USELESS WAR STORIES" are in The Bible for a REASON: so that we can KNOW WHAT WAR IS.

The War is NOT over, until THE ENEMY is HORIZONTAL If the Enemy is still VERTICAL, there is still a PROBLEM.

. 2and KINGS 13:14-19.

14 . Now Elisha was fallen sick
of his sickness whereof he died.
And Joash the king of Israel
came down unto him,
and wept over his face, and said,
"O my father, my father,
the Chariot of Israel,
and the Horsemen thereof."
15. And Elisha said unto him,
"Take bow and arrows."
And he took unto him bow and arrows.
16 .And he said to the king of Israel,
"Put thine hand upon the bow."
And he put his hand upon it:
and Elisha put his hands
upon the king's hands.
17. And he said,
"Open the window eastward."
And he opened it.
Then Elisha said,
"Shoot."
And he shot.
And he said,
"The Arrow of The LORD'S Deliverance,
and the Arrow of Deliverance from Syria:
for thou shalt smite the Syrians in Aphek,
till thou have consumed them."
18. And he said,
"Take the arrows."
And he took them.
And he said unto the king of Israel,
"Smite upon the ground."
And he smote thrice, and stayed.
19. And the Man of God
was wroth with him,
and said,
"Thou shouldest have smitten
five or six times;
then hadst thou smitten Syria
till thou hadst consumed it:
whereas now
thou shalt smite Syria
but thrice."


JOASH. SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER.

Whatever excuses he might have had for not knowing that he should have "WHUP-ASS UNLOADED" at that point, WE DO NOT- because GOD IS SHOWING US HOW HE JUDGES.

Instead of LEARNING FROM ME, so-called CHRISTIANS, even supposed FULL GOSPEL PENTECOSTALS, even DEEPER LIFE FELLOWSHIP Members are MOCKING MY EXAMPLE.

I quote THE WORD OF OUR GOD, and THEY scoff: "HE TALKS TOO MUCH!"

All many of them do, is throw out two or three lines- like they are feeding SCRAPS to DOGS- and say: "IF IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO SAVE THEM, IT'S NOT MY CONCERN!"

THAT is "ALL THY MIGHT" to THEM!

When you have the AWARENESS that WE ARE ALL CONNECTED, you CARE about OTHER PEOPLE'S PROBLEMS, and whether you are part of their SOLUTIONS, or one of the PROBLEMS yourself!



This is the Flattery of an UNJUST. STEWARD!

. LUKE 16:1-17.

AND he said also unto his Disciples,
"There was a certain rich man, which had a steward; and the same was accused unto him that he had wasted his goods.
2. "And he called him, and said unto him,


'HOW IS IT THAT I HEAR THIS OF THEE? GIVE AN ACCOUNT OF THY STEWARDSHIP; FOR THOU MAYEST BE NO LONGER STEWARD.'

3. "Then the steward said within himself,

'WHAT SHALL I DO? FOR MY LORD TAKETH AWAY FROM ME THE STEWARDSHIP: I CANNOT DIG; TO BEG I AM ASHAMED. 4. 'I AM RESOLVED WHAT TO DO, THAT, WHEN I AM PUT OUT OF THE STEWARDSHIP, THEY MAY RECEIVE ME INTO THEIR HOUSES.'

5. "So he called every one of his lord's debtors unto him, and said unto the first,

'HOW MUCH OWEST THOU UNTO MY LORD?'

6. "And he said, 'AN HUNDRED MEASURES OF OIL.' And he said unto him,

'TAKE THY BILL, AND SIT DOWN QUICKLY, AND WRITE FIFTY.'

7. "Then said he to another,

'AND HOW MUCH OWEST THOU?'

And he said,

'AN HUNDRED MEASURES OF WHEAT.'

And he said unto him,

'TAKE THY BILL, AND WRITE FOURSCORE.'

8. "And the lord commended the Unjust Steward, because he had done wisely: for the Children of this World are in their Generation wiser than the Children of Light. 9. "And I say unto you,

'MAKE TO YOURSELVES FRIENDS OF THE MAMMON OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS; THAT, WHEN YE FAIL, THEY MAY RECEIVE YOU INTO EVERLASTING HABITATIONS.'

10. "He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much. 11. "If therefore ye have not been faithful in the Unrighteous Mammon, who will commit to your trust The True Riches?
12. "And if ye have not been faithful in that which is another man's, who shall give you that which is your own?
13. "No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon."
14. And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him.
15. And he said unto them,
"Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is Abomination in The Sight of God.
16. "The Law and the Prophets were until John: since that time The Kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into It.
17. "And it is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass, than one tittle of The Law to fail."


INCOMPLETE JOBS ARE NOT "WELL-DONE!"
You must be so vast in scriptures that you never knew rumour mongering and peddling of falsehood is as evil as Wickedness. See Exodus 23:1
Please learn to summarize, you derail your intentions with lengthy, ambigouous sentences!
Ild rather read few words of Wisdom!!
Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by GoodMuyis(m): 11:09am On Mar 16, 2017
oaroloye:
SHALOM!

This seems to be the work of someone going by "WILLIAMS F. KUMUYI" at least on FACEBOOK.

How does W.F. KUMUYI KNOW that this money is not being used to fund TERRORISM?


That appropriate action to shut this wickedness down has not been taken can be interpreted in several ways, but THE BOTTOM LINE is that NO ONE IN DEEPER LIFE. FELLOWSHIP CARES how the money is used.

They would have to obey "LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF" to THINK in THAT direction. The indictment against them is that THEY DON'T.


My EXPERIENCES with DEEPER LIFE FELLOWSHIP us that THEY DO NOT LOVE THOSE WHO DO NOT LOVE THEM.

Anybody who has had different experiences with DEEPER LIFE FELLOWSHIP has a DUTY to SPEAK UP, and TESTIFY that they are NOT ALL HYPOCRITES!

The Blue
So what you doubting in your mind is that Kumuyi a 70+ years old might be the one behind keyboard trying to scam people?

The Green,
You are oaroloye on Nairaland, you can be something else on facebook, twitter, instagram, etc with that how do I ascertain who you are in real life. DCLM is not the type that broadcast every details if there is no need. If there is need they would do so. This Issue was sent to all Church under DCLM, and all their social handles for their followers to read.


The Red
Your experience with DLBC is negligible, and should be used as generalization. What you experience in SW OR one of the state OR one of the Local Assemblies cannot be obtainable somewhere else, you cant worship with a chruch for few weeks of month and expect them to throw their heart before you

By the way, I perceived you are seeking attention to have seeing new discoveries on this falsehood. I will have to go with @enshy.
The Topic you are concentrating is being around since mid last year, and nobody even care, because the wise knew it was attention seekers who could wrote a shit like that
Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by oaroloye(m): 8:58pm On Mar 16, 2017
GoodMuyis:


The Blue
So what you doubting in your mind is that Kumuyi a 70+ years old might be the one behind keyboard trying to scam people?

You have heard of "SECRETARIES," right?

You saw where I mentioned that Oyinbo Televangelists have used this technique in the past- claiming that they were woken out of sleep, or interrupted in their Prayers by some bogus vison of the other.

The late, "great," Kenneth Hagin used such a vision in his ART OF PRAYER book, saying that he saw "Froglike Spirits come out of the Sea, and leap all over the nation, causing riots and disasters," and the Lord told him that he would hold the Church in general responsible, and himself, Kenneth Hagin, in particular, for not stopping them.

I have some acquaintance with this tactic, and would not put it past any "FULL GOSPEL" MINISTRY locally to try.

The Green,
You are oaroloye on Nairaland, you can be something else on facebook, twitter, instagram, etc with that how do I ascertain who you are in real life.

That question shows your ignorance, and lack of intelligence, and experience.

A proud, Self-Important person would be offended by such an assessment- especially if they bought into the Oyinbo Educational System assertion that these factors are "FIXED" in ADULTS, and cannot be changed.

. [b]PROVERBS 1:1-7.


THE Proverbs of Solomon
the son of David,
king of Israel;
2. To Know Wisdom and Instruction;
to perceive the Words of Understanding;
3. To receive the Instruction of Wisdom,
Justice, and Judgment, and Equity;
4. To give subtilty to the Simple,
to the Young Man Knowledge and Discretion.
5. A Wise man will hear,
and will increase learning;
and a Man of Understanding
shall attain unto Wise Counsels:
6. To understand a Proverb,
and the Interpretation;
the Words of The Wise,
and their Dark Sayings.
7. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Knowledge:
but Fools despise Wisdom and Instruction.


DCLM is not the type that broadcast every details if there is no need. If there is need they would do so. This Issue was sent to all Church under DCLM, and all their social handles for their followers to read. [/b]

What is that supposed to mean?

Who cares about "every detail?"

This is merely diversion from the main issue.

THE WORD OF GOD IS VERY CLEAR:

. EXODUS 21:28-36.

28. "If an ox gore a man or a woman,
that they die:
then the ox shall be surely stoned,
and his flesh shall not be eaten;
but the owner of the ox shall be quit.
29. "But if the ox were wont
to push with his horn in time past,
and it hath been testified to his owner,
and he hath not kept him in,
but that he hath killed a man or a woman;
the ox shall be stoned,
and his owner also shall be put to death.
30. "If there be laid on him a sum of money,
then he shall give for the ransom of his life
whatsoever is laid upon him.
31. "Whether he have gored a son,
or have gored a daughter,
according to this Judgment
shall it be done unto him.
32. "If the ox shall push
a manservant or a maidservant;
he shall give unto their master
thirty shekels of silver,
and the ox shall be stoned.
33. "And if a man shall open a pit,
or if a man shall dig a pit,
and not cover it,
and an ox or an ass fall therein;
34. "The owner of the pit
shall make it good,
and give money unto the owner of them;
and the dead beast shall be his.
35. "And if one man's ox hurt another's,
that he die;
then they shall sell the live ox,
and divide the money of it;
and the dead ox also they shall divide.
36. "Or if it be known
that the ox hath used to push in time past,
and his owner hath not kept him in;
he shall surely pay ox for ox;
and the dead shall be his own."


. EXODUS 22:1-6.

"IF a man shall steal an ox, or a sheep,
and kill it, or sell it; he shall restore
five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a sheep.
2. "If a thief be found breaking up,
and be smitten that he die,
there shall no blood be shed for him.
3. "If the sun be risen upon him,
there shall be blood shed for him;
for he should make full restitution;
if he have nothing,
then he shall be sold for his theft.
4. "If the theft be
certainly found in his hand alive,
whether it be ox, or ass, or sheep;
he shall restore double.
5. "If a man shall cause
a field or vineyard to be eaten,
and shall put in his beast,
and shall feed in another man's field;
of the best of his own field,
and of the best of his own vineyard,
shall he make Restitution.
6. "If fire break out, and catch in thorns,
so that the stacks of corn,
or the standing corn,
or the field, be consumed therewith;
he that kindled the fire
shall surely make Restitution."


W.F. KUMUYI HAS CREATED A BRANDS OF HIS NAME, AND HIS INSTITUTION- THEREFORE HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY USE AND EVERY ABUSE OF THOSE BRANDS.

The Abuser of his Brand is HIS OX that is going around having "fun" goring people.

The IDENTITY-THEFT Abuses of his Name, and the Name of his Church are PITS which people are falling into.

IT IS HIS JOB TO COVER THOSE PITS AND RESCUE THOSE WHO FELL INTO THEM.

Of course, an UNJUST STEWARD will seek to justify himself, and say that none of these things are his fault, how is he supposed to know, etc. etc,

The LAST THING he will ever see is the ENORMOUS POWER that I have just brought to his notice- that he has been peeing away his whole Ministry.

THE FACTORS OF UNDERSTANDING, LIFE, AND POWER are: AFFINITY, REALITY. COMMUNICATION, KNOWLEDGE, RESPONSIBILITY, AND CONTROL.

These Six Factors are inextricably LINKED on FORTY AWARENESS LEVELS, such that if any one of them is INCREASED, STOPPED, or DECREASED, the other FIVE increase, stop, or decrease, with it.

[See: THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THOUGHT, by L. Ron Hubbard.
THE PHOENIX LECTURES, by L. Ron Hubbard.]

Your learning is limited because you are obsessed with the Negative Emotions: FEAR, HATE, ANGER, and HOSTILITY.

Therefore, your Power cannot increase beyond the level where your REACTIVE MIND controls you, and makes you VIOLATE The Commandments of God, whether you like it or not.

PAUL SAID that he NEVER overcame that Problem.

YAHSHUA Taught us how to overcome EVERY Problem.

. JOHN 8:30-32.

30. As he spake these words,
many believed on him.
31. Then said Jesus to those Jews
which believed on him,
"If ye continue in my Word,
then are ye my Disciples indeed;
32. "And ye shall know The Truth,
and The Truth shall make you free."


OF COURSE, YOU CANNOT "CONTINUE IN YAHSHUA'S WORD" WHEN YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO READ OR HEAR IT.

I have endeavored to pass this KEY KNOWLEDGE on IN MY TOPIC ON THAT SUBJECT.

BUT when the UNRIGHTEOUS decide to TELL GOD whom HE can SEND to Teach them, and WHAT He can Teach them- what can one DO?

The Red
Your experience with DLBC is negligible, and should be used as generalization.

My experience with DEEPER LIFE MINISTRY spans 35 years.

It is extremely deceitful and disrespectful to dismiss this as "NEGLIGIBLE."

It is even silly to do so, when you are confirming my findings.

. THE EIGHT DYNAMICS. by L. Ron Hubbard

1.SELF; 2.FAMILY; 3.GROUPS; 4.ALL MANKIND; 5.ALL LIVING THINGS;
6. THE MEST (Matter, Energy, Space, Time- i.e. PHYSICAL) UNIVERSE; 7.SPIRITS; 8.GOD.


THE AWARENESS LEVELS REQUIRED TO CONTROL THE DYNAMICS.

8.Self; 12.Groups; 15.All Mankind; 22. MEST Universe; 32.Spirits; 40.God.

. The L. Ron Hubbard TONE SCALE.

40.Serenity;
30.Postulates;
22.Games;
20.Action;
8.0 Exhilaration;
6.0 Aesthetics;
4.0 Enthusiasm;
3.5 Cheerfulness;
3.0 Conservatism;
2.5 Boredom;
2.0 Overt Hostility;
1.8 Pain;
1.5 Anger;
1.4 Hate;
1.2 No Sympathy;
1.1 Covert Hostility;
1.0 Fear;
0.9 Sympathy;
0.5 Grief;
0.1 Apathy;
0.0 Body Death.


What you experience in SW OR one of the state OR one of the Local Assemblies cannot be obtainable somewhere else, you cant worship with a chruch for few weeks of month and expect them to throw their heart before you

YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

I prayed to God over several months to know how to understand His Word, and, at a point, I went from minimal Comprehension in one moment, to Optimal Comprehension in the next moment. With no one to guide me, nor to give me the benefit of their experience, I had had no idea what to expect, nor what was happening.

From CARLOS CASTANEDA, I now have a NAME for this Experience: It is THE SECOND ATTENTION.

I had INSTANT Total Recall of the ENTIRE BIBLE.

If I thought of any Verses or Passages, I was immediately made aware of all of the other Verses and Passages that were connected to it.

I remembered Scriptures that I did not remember ever reading. (I later found that I had actually read the whole Bible, but had forgotten that I had done so.)

This was the sort of awareness that The Ancients had.

If anyone said anything, or did anything, I would immediately receive a "Biblical Breakdown" of what The Scriptures had to say about that.

I could not enjoy even Full Gospel Preachers' Sermons any more, because all of the ERRORS and MISCONCEPTIONS would be HIGHLIGHTED to me, as with a SLEDGEHAMMER. This was never fun.

By the way, I perceived you are seeking attention to have seeing new discoveries on this falsehood.

I don't know where you learned to Speak, Read, and Write English Language, but you have just disgraced your teachers.

This sentence makes no sense- but you evidently think a lot of your ability to perceive.

. THE FOUR LEVELS OF PERCEPTION . by L. Ron Hubbard

4. DIFFERENTIATION: the intelligent ability to perceive
the differences between similar things.

3. ASSOCIATION: the intelligent ability to perceive
the similarities between different things.

2. IDENTIFICATION: the stupid and insane inability to perceive
the differences between different things.

1. DISSOCIATION: the stupid and insane inability to perceive
the similarities between similar things.

0. DEATH: the inability to perceive anything at all.


YOU ARE TRAPPED IN THE INABILITY TO PERCEIVE WHAT YOU NEED TO PERCEIVE.

I will have to go with @enshy.
The Topic you are concentrating is being around since mid last year, and nobody even care, because the wise knew it was attention seekers who could wrote a shit like that


Well, I received it in my WHATSAPP three days ago, and I do care.

When you say "NOBODY," you people always mean those whom you recognize as "PEOPLE."

Namely, those who believe as you do, and who give you honour, and receive honour from you.

All others you regard as NONPERSONS.

That is a DEEPER LIFE FELLOWSHIP Third Dynamic Generalization that applies to you all.
Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by GoodMuyis(m): 11:17pm On Mar 16, 2017
Hey oga oaroloye, Am church member and don't take my view to be church opinion and vice versa.

You asked question, we tell you what you don't know, yet you disagree, what point are you driving at?

To tell us that Kumuyi is a fake clergyman as you claimed before, smh

To expose your self, you claimed to know kumuyi or DLBC for the past 35yrs, yet you don't know or cannot recalled how he personally address Finda and Linda case just few years ago.

See I don't have borne for argument, if you have any biblical teaching to share, mention me but on this case... Shalom
Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by Nobody: 11:24pm On Mar 16, 2017
oaroloye:
SHALOM!

There was one paragraph in particular that drew my attention.










"GONE?" What does that even mean?

"DEAD?"

No longer FINANCIAL MEMBERS of HIS Church?

This is ambiguous.



THIS INTERESTED ME!

I have been doing this for a VERY LONG TIME.

THIRTY YEARS AGO, a White man named NEAL FRISBY wrote virtually the same Prophecy.

I was even impressed, until I learned that he seemed to have plagiarized it from a Prophecy by WILLIAM BRANHAM (see: SEVEN CHURCH AGES, by William Branham). It was part of one of the THREE VISIONS he had, of "WHAT MUST COME TO PASS BEFORE JESUS RETURNS."

One might note, that based on this (and two other "Visions from the Lord," William Branham "PREDICTED," ("NOT PROPHESIED," he allegedly qualified it,) that JESUS WOULD RETURN BY 1975, LATEST.

This caused GREAT CONSTERNATION amongst his followers- they QUIT JOBS, DROPPED OUT OF SCHOOL- and other things just to be "READY" to be "RAPTURED!"

(NOTE THAT WILLIAM BRANHAM- THE PROPHET WHO WAS "NEVER WRONG," DIED IN 1965.)























































THIS SHOWS COMPLETE IGNORANCE AS TO WHAT CONSTITUTES "HOLINESS," AND THE CRITERION FOR ENTERING HEAVEN.

"GOING TO HEAVEN" is NOT an END GOAL- it is MERELY a MILESTONE.

"GOING TO HEAVEN" is CHEAP!

Even SATAN can DO that.

WORSHIPPERS OF GOD were required to PRESENT THEMSELVES BEFORE THE LORD, three times annually.

Therefore, it follows that CHRISTIANS are EXPECTED to use THE FIFTH TALENT OF POWER to Ascend into Heaven and Assemble before GOD- three times annually.



"HOLINESS" is a CONCENTRATION of Spiritual Energy to Divine Levels.

Spiritual Energy (Zoë) is accumulated by PROLONGED RIGHTEOUS ACTIONS

FORGIVENESS CANNOT MAKE ONE "HOLY."

That is what FOLLOWERS OF PAUL do not understand, receive, nor believe.



I find it hard to believe that this rant could have been published by W.F. KUMUYI.

Perhaps it was cobbled together from things he has said or written over the years?
pastor kumuyi never said anything like these. you are lying bro
Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by oaroloye(m): 7:10am On Mar 17, 2017
SHALOM!

supergata:
pastor kumuyi never said anything like these. you are lying bro

Even in a sentence so short, you could not be bothered to use proper punctuation?

I never lied about anything.

I said that I received that message in my WHATSAPP account earlier this week.

How or why could I be lying about that?

Is DEEPER LIFE so hard-up for intelligent and educated members, that an uncouth and ignorant person as yourself has to speak for them?

I see that you have 15 Pages of POSTS since August 2016, but only 8 TOPICS since DECEMBER!

This was your Post on the "HAVE YOU PRAISED HIM YET TODAY" Thread:

supergata:
I thank you because you never and can never fail me, Thank you jesus for providing for me. i love you jesus.

No REAL CHRISTIAN would type The Lord's Name in ALL SMALLCASE.

You claim that The Lord provided for you- but you cannot be bothered to CAPITALIZE the FIRST LETTER of his Name?

Your March 8th Topic is especially telling.

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The second sentence was started with a capital letter.

That would be the work if your SPELL-CHECKER- or else you FORGOT TO POSE.

The rest of the sentences were therefore deliberately started with SMALLCASE "I."

The first thing we are taught in English Grammar is to CAPITALIZE THE FIRST-PERSONAL PRONOUN.

Therefore, I deduce that your Posts are CRAFTED to give the APPEARANCE that you are something that you are not.

Does DEEPER LIFE FELLOWSHIP employ SHILLS, now?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS9olPA2BK0

Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by oaroloye(m): 8:03am On Mar 17, 2017
SHALOM!

GoodMuyis:
Hey oga oaroloye, Am church member and don't take my view to be church opinion and vice versa.

This is as disgusting as it gets!

What is the point of calling yourself a Church Member, then?

When you are a member of a CULT, as DEEPER LIFE FELLOWSHIP can be proven to be, WHEN THEY WANT YOUR OPINION, THEY WILL GIVE IT TO YOU.

You cannot be a FOLLOWER of a LEADER, and have a DIFFERENT OPINION from your LEADERSHIP.

The FIRST RULE of SHILL SPIN is to OBFUSCATE EVERYTHING.

I would be a FOOL to take anything you say seriously, after that DISCLAIMER!

What USE are you, then?

You asked question, we tell you what you don't know, yet you disagree, what point are you driving at?

First of all, OBFUSCATION IS INEVITABLE when CORRECT GRAMMAR is abandoned.

So you throw that away, in hopes that I should be foolish enough to ignore it, and pretend that what you wrote makes sense, and that I understood it.

Secondly, YOU ALREADY CLAIMED NOT TO SPEAK FOR THE DEEPER LIFE FELLOWSHIP, so WHO are the "WE" that you are talking about?

Thirdly, YOU DO NOT DEFINE WHAT IT IS "YOU" HAVE TOLD ME, THAT I DIDN'T KNOW, and I "DISAGREED."

That is RUDE, attempting to portray me as a FOOL.

Fourthly, you claim to ask what point I was driving at, when you have ignored my simple question: DID W.F. KUMUYI WRITE THIS PIST THAT IS BEING FORWARDED THROUGH WHATSAPP?

When it was pointed out that it is a known forgery by a W.F. KUMUYI IMPERSONATOR, I at no point disagreed with that information.

You claim that I disagreed with "YOU" (plural,) implying that you are part of a collusion to discredit me, for pointing out facts- that someone is abusing the W.F. KUMUYI BRANDS, and that DEEPER LIFE FELLOWSHIP is neglecting Its RESPONSIBILITY before GOD and before MAN to STOP this FRAUDSTER, and REPAIR THE DAMAGE he (or she,) has done.

To tell us that Kumuyi is a fake clergyman as you claimed before, smh

Since you have said already that you are a member of DEEPER LUFE FELLOWSHIP, but W.F. KUMUYI has not taught you to express CHURCH OPINION ONLY, you have PROVEN MY POINT OUT OF YOUR OWN MOUTH.

Since you have said that W.F. KUMUYI has NOT taught you to express YAHSHUA'S OPINION ONLY, you have PROVEN MY POINT, out of your own mouth.

W.F. KUMUYI is WORTHLESS as a Christian Clergyman, because he has not taught you anything you are supposed to know as a Church Member, NIR has he taught you what you are supposed to know as a CHRISTIAN.

. MATTHEW 7:12-29.

12. "Therefore all things
whatsoever ye would
that men should do to you,
do ye even so to them:
for this is The Law and The Prophets.
13. "Enter ye in at The Strait Gate:
for wide is the Gate,
and broad is the way,
that leadeth to Destruction,
and many there be which go in thereat:
14. "Because strait is the Gate,
and narrow is The Way,
which leadeth unto Life,
and few there be that find it.
15. "Beware of False Prophets,
which come to you in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16. "Ye shall know them by their fruits.
Do men gather grapes of thorns,
or figs of thistles?
17. "Even so every Good Tree
bringeth forth Good Fruit;
but a Corrupt Tree
bringeth forth Evil Fruit.
18. "A Good Tree cannot
bring forth Evil Fruit,
neither can a Corrupt Tree
bring forth Good Fruit.
19. "Every tree that
bringeth not forth Good Fruit
is hewn down,
and cast into the Fire.
20 Wherefore by their Fruits
ye shall know them.
21. "Not every one
that saith unto me,
'Lord, Lord,' shall enter into
The Kingdom of Heaven;
but He that doeth
The Will of my Father
Which is in Heaven.
22 Many will say to me
in That Day,


'LORD, LORD, HAVE WE NOT
PROPHESIED IN THY NAME?
AND IN THY NAME
HAVE CAST OUT DEVILS?
AND IN THY NAME
DONE MANY WONDERFUL WORKS?'


23. "And then will I profess unto them,

'I NEVER KNEW YOU:
DEPART FROM ME,
YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.'


24. "Therefore whosoever heareth
These Sayings of mine,
and doeth Them,
I will liken him unto a Wise Man,
which built his house upon a rock:
25. "And the rain descended,
and the floods came,
and the winds blew,
and beat upon that house;
and it fell not:
for it was founded upon a rock.
26 . "And every one that heareth
These Sayings of mine,
and doeth them not,
shall be likened unto a Foolish Man,
which built his house upon the sand:
27. "And the rain descended,
and the floods came,
and the winds blew,
and beat upon that house;
and it fell:
and great was the fall of it."
28. And it came to pass,
when Jesus had ended these Sayings,
the people were astonished
at his Doctrine:
29. For He taught them
as one having authority,
and not as the scribes.


THE FALSE PROPHET IS KNOWN BY HIS FRUITS.

If he were teaching you THE GOSPEL, we would have heard THE WORDS OF YAHSHUA back from you people.

We haven't.

We have gotten back EXCUSES, EVASIONS, LIES, SLURS, and ABUSE.

That is what W.F. KUMUYI is FEEDING you with: DEATH.

To expose your self, you claimed to know kumuyi or DLBC for the past 35yrs, yet you don't know or cannot recalled how he personally address Finda and Linda case just few years ago.

I have never claimed to "KNOW KUMUYI OR DEEPER LIFE BIBLE CHURCH" for the past 35 years.

Go and read the place that you say that I said that, COPY IT, and PASTE THE QUOTE, so we can PROVE WHO OF US IS THE LIAR.

But if I had "KNOWN KUMUYI OR DEEPER LIFE BIBLE CHURCH FOR THE PAST 35 YEARS," why should I know or recall his he personally addressed "FINDA OR LINDA CASE," however few or many years ago that was?

Of what relevance would that be?

Do you even know?

If this is how your church members refer to such things, few if any, of them would know.

You are deflecting from the actual issue, and playing on my ignorance of your supposed leader's personal activities.

See I don't have borne for argument,

Another Grammatical Obfuscation.

You cannot say that you do not know that this phrase makes no sense.

if you have any biblical teaching to share, mention me but on this case... Shalom

But I just gave you Biblical Teaching, but you pretended that I was not preaching The Word of Gid and raising valid points.

These then, are the FRUITS of the W.F. KUMUYI MINISTRY.

Who will still want to join, after this eye-opener?

Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by Nobody: 1:11am On Mar 18, 2017
oaroloye:
SHALOM!



Even in a sentence so short, you could not be bothered to use proper punctuation?

I never lied about anything.

I said that I received that message in my WHATSAPP account earlier this week.

How or why could I be lying about that?

Is DEEPER LIFE so hard-up for intelligent and educated members, that an uncouth and ignorant person as yourself has to speak for them?

I see that you have 15 Pages of POSTS since August 2016, but only 8 TOPICS since DECEMBER!

This was your Post on the "HAVE YOU PRAISED HIM YET TODAY" Thread:



No REAL CHRISTIAN would type The Lord's Name in ALL SMALLCASE.

You claim that The Lord provided for you- but you cannot be bothered to CAPITALIZE the FIRST LETTER of his Name?

Your March 8th Topic is especially telling.



The second sentence was started with a capital letter.

That would be the work if your SPELL-CHECKER- or else you FORGOT TO POSE.

The rest of the sentences were therefore deliberately started with SMALLCASE "I."

The first thing we are taught in English Grammar is to CAPITALIZE THE FIRST-PERSONAL PRONOUN.

Therefore, I deduce that your Posts are CRAFTED to give the APPEARANCE that you are something that you are not.

Does DEEPER LIFE FELLOWSHIP employ SHILLS, now?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS9olPA2BK0
i know your type sir.i wont argue with you.You win sir
Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:50am On Mar 18, 2017
oaroloye:


SHALOM!

A co-worker just forwarded this to me on WHATSAPP:



I do not have a high opinion of anyone who calls themselves a "PASTOR;" that is CONTRARY to YAHSHUA'S EXPLICIT COMMANDMENT. Anyone following such people deserve everything they get.

I have tried to warn you before, but been HUGELY IGNORED.

(Over 130 views, but only THREE Comments- on an issue as important as that "ALL CLERGYMEN ARE FAKE!")

I do not follow W.F. KUMUYI'S TEACHINGS, but if this is truly from him, I am afraid I must revise my former estimate of his intelligence and intellect, and that of his followers- downwards.

Are you alright? undecided
Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by oaroloye(m): 5:29pm On Mar 18, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


Are you alright? undecided

"ALRIGHT" IS NOT A WORD- you should never use it again.

When you get all your instructions from UNJUST STEWARDS, then OF COURSE they are going to LIE TO YOU, and tell you that they have authority that they do not.

IT IS AN INTERNATIONAL SCAM.

No Disciple of Yahshua has the right to rule over other Brethren.

We know that because YAHSHUA SAID SO.

Once you depart from that BASIC TRUTH, you can ONLY walk in DECEPTION.

The Roman Catholic Church is MYSTERY: BABYLON THE GREAT- MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

The Churches that use Clergy are all COPYING ROMAN CATHOLICISM, and CONTROLLED BY THE DAME RULING SPIRIT.

That is why they cannot escape their control.

Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by Ken4Christ: 8:41pm On Mar 18, 2017
Pastor Kumuyi message is a timely one. I see nothing wrong with every single line of his message. I am not a member of Deeper life and I don't even agree with a few of their doctrines but this message is on track.

Sexual promiscuity is already on the increase even amongst professing believers.

People no longer endure sound doctrines but they love to attend Churches where they are told what they want to hear.

Please, those of you criticizing this message, give your scriptural perspective on every single line you do not agree with.

Only those who want to continue in their sinful ways will criticize this message.
Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by orisa37: 9:46am On Mar 19, 2017
I don't think that you've ever liked Pastors
Re: Did W.F. KUMUYI Really Say This? by oaroloye(m): 9:49am On Mar 19, 2017
SHALOM!

Ken4Christ:
Pastor Kumuyi message is a timely one. I see nothing wrong with every single line of his message. I am not a member of Deeper life and I don't even agree with a few of their doctrines but this message is on track.

I am so glad that you should come out and ask THAT question!

Here is where we "Separate the Men from the Boys!"

It is a sign of your lack of Spiritual Development that you should think this a "GOOD" Message.

Spiritual Development is very hard to come by.

Most people are recruited into Christianity from out of complete ignorance of how to live a Spiritual Life. [url=https://www.nairaland.com/3662186/band-man-assemblage-point[b]They experience a slight shift of their Assemblage Point- that the OYINBOS TOLD US is "THE BORN AGAIN EXPERIENCE" - and comically imagine that they have become GODS![/b][/url] They do not know any better, because there is no one to tell them where the error lies.

In an Ideal World, that should have been their parents.

This is why Yahshua Commanded his Disciples to HATE their parents- that is, to disobey them.

YAHWEH GOD came down from Heaven to tell the Children of Israel to HONOUR THEIR FATHER AND THEIR MOTHER. (Many so-called Christians do not know this, but think that Moses showed up one day, with a couple of stone tablets with "THE TEN COMMANDMENTS" written on them, and claimed that GOD wrote them- and that THAT is where "THE TEN COMMANDMENTS" came from! That is NOT how the Children of Israel got "THE TEN COMMANDMENTS" at all!)

He could very well say that, because the ALL of their Fathers and Mothers were RIGHT THERE, and ALL COMMITTED to WORSHIP HIM, and Him ALONE.

The Fathers and Mothers of Yahshua's Time, who were not present in THAT multitude, had to be considered TRAITORS AGAINST THEIR GOD.

They were supposed to come from THE ENDS OF THE EARTH to HEAR YAHSHUA'S WISDOM, and ACKNOWLEDGE his Ministry.

Instead, they accepted a PHARISEE DIRECTIVE, that "ANYONE WHO RECOGNIZES YAHSHUA AS THE HaMISHIACH should be EXPELLED from their Synagogues.

. JOHN 12:44-50.

44. Jesus cried and said,
"He that believeth on me,
believeth not on me,
but on him that sent me.
45. "And he that seeth me
seeth Him that sent me.
46. "I am come a Light into the World,
that whosoever believeth on me
should not abide in Darkness.
47. "And if any man hear my Words,
and believe not,
I judge him not:
for I came not to judge the World,
but to save the World.
48. "He that rejecteth me,
and receiveth not my Words,
hath One that judgeth him:
The Word that I have spoken,
The Same shall judge him
in The Last Day.
49. "For I have not spoken of myself;
but The Father which sent me,
He gave me a Commandment,
what I should say,
and what I should speak.
50. "And I know that
His Commandment is Life Everlasting:
whatsoever I speak therefore,
even as The Father Said unto me,
so I speak."


SO TOO, ANY CHRISTIAN IN NAIRALAND, WHO DOES NOT ACKNOWLEDGE MY TEACHINGS AS CONSISTENT WITH THE TRUE GOSPEL AS PREACHED BY YAHSHUA IN THE BIBLE, IS A TRAITOR AGAINST THE LORD, AND AGAINST THE CHURCH.

Think about that!

This is not some crackpot collection of theories and Human ideas, that I am promoting as "an alternative Way to try:" THIS IS THE ONLY WAY FORWARD!

There is no other FORWARD-FACING Christian Ministry, ANYWHERE!

ALL have fallen and sucuumbed to corruption.

That is not egotism- that is HUMILITY.

EVERYONE ELSE HAS GOT IT WRONG, ONLY I HAVE GOT IT RIGHT.

The fastest PROOF of that, is HOW I AM CRITICIZED.

LOOK at what my detractors say!

Really look!

They DON'T talk about WHAT I SAY, but HOW I SAY IT.

They SHOOT THE MESSENGER.

They REVILE me, they SCOFF, they SCORN.

They OBSTRUCT the FLOW of Revelation- never pass on THE TEACHINGS CHRISTIANS NEED TO WIN, but SLANDER and INNUENDO.

Meanwhile, there are PEOPLE SUFFERING, who NEED ANSWERS- and I BRING THOSE ANSWERS- yet people take it upon themselves to IGNORE those, and KEEP THEIR NEIGHBOURS IGNORANT.

Why don't people THINK, and CONSIDER the CONSEQUENCES of their ACTIONS and INACTIONS?

THE EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS who follow BILLY GRAHAM and JOHN MacARTHUR and their ilk, say that those who believe "GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT" are PART OF OUR COVENANT RIGHTS are SATANIC FANATICS.

In that case, those who suffer problems for which they have NO MEST RESOURCES, who believe THEIR Doctrines, will have NO SOLUTION to their Problems, and CANNOT PRAY for GOD to SOLVE them.

BILLY GRAHAM and JOHN MacARTHUR have taught Christians suffering from Medically-Incurable conditions that TO DOUBT THAT IT IS THE WILL OF GOD TO HEAL THEM. That is BLASPHEMY, because it DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS The Gospel. Therefore, like VULTURES, these SPIRITUAL BASTARD ABOMINATIONS have STOOD BY while Christians DIED- believing that GOD WAS IGNORING THEIR SUFFERING, when a modicum of His Power could have Healed them.

When Churches were being blown up by Terrorists, and Christians were being slaughtered, those who followed EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE, that those who prayed for GIFTS OF PROPHECY AND REVELATION to EXPOSE Murderers, and Stop them in their tracks, predicting their locations, locus, and attack sites' were "FANATICS," thet found themselves unable to use that avenue to save themselves and their "loved-ones."

Note also that the supposed Muslim Terrorists are probably trained and armed by American Military Intelligence, consistent with what their CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY (CIA) has done since its inception. Then Americans also preach Christian Religious Doctrines that render Christians helpless to stop THEIR Secret Agent Attacks.

Do you think that that is COINCIDENCE?

Didn't the COLONIAL MASTERS first send MISSIONARIES to find out where the Africans were, how many they were, and what their defenses and resources were- and THEN THEIR MILITARY, to plunder the land, by BRUTE FORCE? Didn't the Missionaries preach NON-RESISTANCE to the COLONIAL ATTACKERS- if their Converts wanted to "GO TO HEAVEN" when they DIED?

Don't you see that this is a TEAM EFFORT?

FALSE CHRISTIANITY IS A TOOL OF OYINBO STATECRAFT.

How could it not be.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE PURPORTED W.F. KUMUYI MESSAGE.

(1) USE OF FORNICATION AS A CHEAP DISTRACTION.

Sexual promiscuity is already on the increase even amongst professing believers.

No, it isn't.

"SEXUAL PROMISCUITY" is his it has always been, at least since Birth Control and Prophylactics became freely available.

"THERE ARE A THOUSAND HACKING
AT THE BRANCHES OF EVIL
TO ONE STRIKING AT THE ROOT!"

. MATTHEW 5:21-26.

21. "Ye have heard that it was said
by them of Old Time,


'THOU SHALT NOT KILL;'
and
'WHOSOEVER SHALL KILL
SHALL BE IN DANGER
OF THE JUDGEMENT:[/i][/b][/color]

22. "But I say unto you,

'THAT WHOSOEVER IS ANGRY
WITH HIS BROTHER
WITHOUT A CAUSE
SHALL BE IN DANGER
OF THE JUDGMENT:


and whosoever shall say
to his brother,


'RACA,'[/i][/b][/color]

shall be in Danger of the Council:
but whosoever shall say,


"THOU FOOL,"

shall be in Danger of Hell Fire.'

23. "Therefore if thou
bring thy Gift to the Altar,
and there rememberest
that thy Brother
hath ought against thee;
24. "Leave there thy Gift
before the Altar,
and go thy way;
first be reconciled to thy Brother,
and then come and offer thy Gift.
25. "Agree with thine Adversary quickly,
whiles thou art in the way with him;
lest at any time the Adversary
deliver thee to the judge,
and the Judge deliver thee
to the Officer,
and thou be cast into Prison.
26. "Verily I say unto thee,


"THOU SHALT BY NO MEANS
COME OUT THENCE,
TILL THOU HAST PAID
THE UTTERMOST FARTHING.' "


. MATTHEW 7:1-6.

“JUDGE not, that ye be not judged.
2. "For with what judgment ye judge,
ye shall be judged;
and with what measure ye mete,
it shall be measured to you again.
3. "And why beholdest thou the mote
that is in thy brother's eye,
but considerest not the beam
that is in thine own eye?
4. "Or how wilt thou say to thy brother,


'LET ME PULL OUT THE MOTE
OUT OF THINE EYE;'


and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5. "Thou Hypocrite,
first cast out the beam
out of thine own eye;
and then shalt thou see clearly
to cast out the mote
out of thy brother's eye.
6. "Give not that which is holy
unto the dogs,
neither cast ye your pearls
before swine,
lest they trample them
under their feet,
and turn again and rend you."


. LUKE 18:9-17.

9. And he spake this Parable unto certain
which trusted in themselves
that they were Righteous,
and despised others:
10. Two men went up
into the Temple to pray;
the one a Pharisee,
and the other a Publican.
11. The Pharisee stood
and prayed thus with himself,


'GOD, I THANK THEE,
THAT I AM NOT AS OTHER MEN ARE,
EXTORTIONERS, UNJUST, ADULTERERS,
OR EVEN AS THIS PUBLICAN.
12. 'I FAST TWICE IN THE WEEK,
I GIVE TITHES OF ALL I POSSESS.'


13. "And the Publican,
standing afar off,
would not lift up
so much as his eyes
unto Heaven,
but smote upon his breast,
saying,


' GOD BE MERCIFUL
TO ME
A SINNER,'


14. "I tell you,

' THIS MAN WENT DOWN TO HIS HOUSE
JUSTIFIED RATHER THAN THE OTHER:'


for every one that exalteth himself
shall be abased;
and he that humbleth himself
shall be exalted."
15. And they brought unto him also infants,
that he would touch them:
but when his Disciples saw it,
they rebuked them.
16. But Jesus called them unto him,
and said,
"Suffer little children
to come unto me,
and forbid them not:
for of such is
The Kingdom of God.
17. "Verily I say unto you,


'WHOSOEVER SHALL NOT
RECEIVE THE KINGDOM OF GOD
AS A LITTLE CHILD
SHALL IN NO WISE
ENTER THEREIN.' "


YOU CANNOT FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YAHSHUA MEANT BY SAYING THAT THE KINGDOM OF GOD CONSISTS OF CHILDLIKE ENTITIES, UNLESS YOU KNOW NAGUALISM'S ASSEMBLAGE POINT FINDINGS.

The Human Soul Body appears on the Deep Spiritual Plane as an EGG-SHAPED COCOON, the size of a person with their arms outstretched, filled with fibres made of sentient, self-aware light. Each fibre represents a different COMMAND. They are more densely packed in a disk-shape that transversely bisects the cocoon, like a huge COIN, or SOLID OVAL, the size of a person.

The right edge of this disk is if especial interest; everything that exists is made of these sentient-light fibres.

They do not occur alone, but in bundles with other fibres and contained in RECEPTACLES.

The RECEPTACLES of non-living things are RIGID, while those of living things are flexible.

On the right edge of the Human Cocoon Disk, that is THE BAND OF MAN, is a relatively bright GLOW, that depicts THE POSITION OF THE MIND. The fibres that are illuminated by this GLOW OF AWARENESS- normally roughly the size of a tennis ball- directly relate to EVERYTHING that that Mind can PERCEIVE, CONCEIVE, and RECALL at that time.

It is NOT POSSIBLE for one to perceive, conceive, or recall anything that does not have the same composition as the FIBRES-OF-LIGHT that are illuminated by their Glow of Awareness.

Therefore, when you know the POSITION of someone's Glow of Awareness- called THE ASSEMBLAGE POINT, you know what they CAN POSSIBLY KNOW, IMAGINE, OR RECALL, and what they CAN'T know, imagine, or recall.

Therefore, a SPECIFIC POSITION of the ASSEMBLAGE POINT relates to EARTHLY KNOWLEDGE.

If the Assemblage Point is SHIFTED upwards, that Mind becomes able to perceive, conceive, and recall FUNDAMENTAL COMMANDS OF HIGHER REALMS THSN THE EARTHLY. That is, of course, HEAVEN.

These Assemblage Points require HIGH SPIRITUAL ENERGY to access.

Those who access them experience SUPERIOR WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING to those whose Assemblage Points are limited to Earthly Levels. It is like the superior viewpoint of someone ascending a mountain, or a pyramid.

The things seen when at the base of the mountain or pyramid look smaller and smaller, and less and less significant as one ascends. That is how you know when people are truly Spiritual, or whether they are just "FAKING IT."

The South American Naguals were able to discover SEVEN Assemblage Point positions that enable PERCEPTION of bona fide WORLDS. That is consistent with the Bible-implied Teaching of SEVEN HEAVEN UNIVERSES.

MEDITATION IS THEREFORE THE DELIBERATE SHIFT OF THE ASSEMBLAGE POINT TO DIFFERENT POSITIONS, CAUSING A CHANGE IN WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING.

DREAMING is the Perceptions, Conceptions, and Recalls attained when THE ASSEMBLAGE POINT moves during SLEEP- when the Mind relinquishes its grip on some illuminated fibres, because it no longer needs them, nor wants them. This allows its Assemblage Point to move, according to the Energy available. If the fibres contacted during Dreaming are not contacted during wakefulness, it will not be possible to RECALL what one DREAMED. MEMORY IS STORED IN THE FIBRES.

Given these IMPORTANT TRUTHS, who can CARE about SEX?

SEXUAL DESIRE is an ASSEMBLAGE POINT, and when we have LEFT that POSITION, on the RIGHT SIDE of the transverse disc edge, WE FORGET ABOUT IT.

If, therefore "BELIEVERS" have SEXUAL PROBLEMS, she must examine WHAT IT IS THAT THEY BELIEVE, THAT THEY STILL HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO REMEMBER SEX.

That is THE ROOT of the SEX PROBLEM in Christianity.

It is caused by the FALSE GOSPEL TEACHINGS of WICKED MEN like W.F. KUMUYI.

I have already quoted the specific Teachings of Yahshua that he defies.

Stop pretending that you do not understand how they app,y to him and his kind.

. MATTHEW 23:1-15.

THEN spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his Disciples,
2. Saying,
"The scribes and the Pharisees
sit in Moses' seat:
3. "All therefore whatsoever
they bid you observe,
that observe and do;
but do not ye after their works:
for they say,
and do not.
4. "For they bind heavy burdens
and grievous to be borne,
and lay them on men's shoulders;
but they themselves
will not move them
with one of their fingers.
5. "But all their works
they do for to be seen of men:
they make broad their phylacteries,
and enlarge the borders
of their garments,
6. "And love the uppermost
rooms at feasts,
and the chief seats
in the Synagogues,
7. "And greetings in the markets,
and to be called of men, 'Rabbi, Rabbi.'
8. "But be not ye called Rabbi:
for one is your Master,
even Christ;
and all ye are Brethren.
9. "And call no man your father
upon the Earth:
for One is your Father,
Which is in Heaven.
10. "Neither be ye called masters:
for one is your Master,
even Christ.
11. "But he that is greatest among you
shall be your servant.
12. "And whosoever shall exalt himself
shall be abased;
and he that shall humble himself
shall be exalted.
13. "But woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites!
For ye shut up the Kingdom of Heaven
against men:
for ye neither go in yourselves,
neither suffer ye
them that are entering
to go in.
14. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites!
For ye devour widows' houses,
and for a pretence
make long prayer:
therefore ye shall receive
the greater Damnation.
15. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites!
For ye compass sea and land
to make one proselyte,
and when he is made,
ye make him twofold more
the Child of Hell
than yourselves."


THE FASTEST WAY TO BECOME RICH AND POPULAR IN BIBLE RELIGION IS TO TEACH THE OPPOSITE OF GOD'S COMMANDMENTS AND PRECEPTS.

DEEPER LIFE FELLOWSHIP IS BUILT ON THE FOUNDATION OF ANGER AND HATRED AGAINST ALL THOSE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE AS THEY DO.

W.F. KUMUYI MADE HIS FOLLOWERS FEEL THEY WERE HOLY BY COMPARING THEM WITH THOSE PERCEPTIBLY MORE UNRIGHTEOUS THAN THEMSELVES.

This is a very cheap trick, but stupendously effective; people can fall under this spell of IMAGINARY SUPERIORITY all their lives, and never realize that they were being PLAYED THE WHOLE TIME!

Comparing Neurotic Religious people with Sexual Sinners is the cheapest way to make them see you as a Holy Messenger if God.

Hypocrites think:

"I've NEVER done THAT- so God cannot possibly see ME as being THAT EVIL; He MUST see me as BETTER than THOSE!"

(2) SUPPORT OF THE GENERAL OBFUSCATION OF WHAT THE REAL GOSPEL IS.

People no longer endure sound doctrines but they love to attend Churches where they are told what they want to hear.

Uh, huh, so what do YOU do that is better?

Show us your websites, where you or each this "SOUND DOCTRINE?"

THERE ARE FOUR LEVELS OF THE WORD OF GOD:

4. STONE.
3. MEAT.
2. BREAD.
1. MILK.


MILK us USELESS for GROWTH- EXCELLENT for RETARDING DEVELOPMENT- PAUL TAUGHT IT TO THE CORINTHIANS- and it DESTROYED them.

YAHSHUA TAUGHT BREAD: that is what causes GROWTH.

So, False Teachers must GET RID OF THAT, first off, and substitute ANYTHING else.

I have just given you an example of MEAT.

You cannot know these things unless you have OUTGROWN LEARNING BREAD.

. JOHN 8:30-32.

30. As he spake these Words,
many believed on him.
31. Then said Jesus to those Jews
which believed on him,
"If ye continue in my Word,
(then) are ye my Disciples indeed;
32. "And ye shall know The Truth,
and The Truth shall make you Free."


IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR W.F. KUMUYI TO TEACH THIS BREAD OF YAHSHUA, AND HIS CHURCH END UP AS THE TITANIC OF UNTEACHABLE FOOLS THAT IT IS TODAY!

Please, those of you criticizing this message, give your scriptural perspective on every single line you do not agree with.

ARE YOU DENYING THAT I HAVE ALREADY DONE ENOUGH ON THAT SCORE?

Only those who want to continue in their sinful ways will criticize this message. [/quote]

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