Firstly, graduating with a first class is not a guarantee for job. But it is only fair within the ambient of merit that a first class graduate in a relevant field as regard the opening should be considered for interview (is left for him to prove his worth).
So while scrolling down the list yesterday, I was so sure of seeing my name. But to my surprise only three names appeared from Central Zone, Taraba State, for the position of Foreign Service Officer GL 08 (Foreign Affairs)
So I began my analysis: I graduated with a First Class in B. A. International Studies and Diplomacy while the shortlisted candidates graduated in these disciplines:
1. NCE, B. Sc. Social Studies
2. B. A. French
3. B. Sc. Sociology

I don't know their grades, but let's assume they all had First Class, their disciplines are not as relevant as my own considering Foreign Service Job. But this is Nigeria where merit is always murdered on the alter of connection.
Patiently waiting for the next batch. In the meantime, I'm already running my M.A in the First and the Best University in Nigeria (you know the school na...Lol). The job was just Plan B.

davereal:
Firstly, graduating with a first class is not a guarantee for job. But it is only fair within the ambient of merit that a first class graduate in a relevant field as regard the opening should be considered for interview (is left for him to proof his worth).
So while scrolling down the list yesterday, I was so sure of seeing my name. But to my surprise only three names appeared from Central Zone, Taraba State, for the position of Foreign Service Officer GL 08 (Foreign Affairs)
So I began my analysis: I graduated with a First Class in B. A. International Studies and Diplomacy while the shortlisted candidates graduated in these disciplines:
1. NCE, B. Sc. Social Studies
2. B. A. French
3. B. Sc. Sociology

I don't know their grades, but let's assume they all had First Class, their disciplines are not as relevant as my own considering Foreign Service Job. But this is Nigeria where merit is always murdered on the alter of connection.
Patiently waiting for the next batch. In the meantime, I'm already running my M.A in the First and the Best University in Nigeria (you know the school na...Lol). The job was just Plan B.

Well, I'm glad u acknowledge that graduating with first class is not a guarantee for gaining a job, not even being shortlisted. However, do you also know that in the process of recruitment, very little error (either on your part or the screening officer) can disqualify you. It is not of he that runneth...

BTW, batch B is coming.

[quote author=decub post=54702846]
Well, I'm glad u acknowledge that graduating with first class is not a guarantee for gaining a job, not even being shortlisted. However, do you also know that in the process of recruitment, very little error (either on your part or the screening officer) can disqualify you. It is not of he that runneth...

BTW, batch B is coming.[/quo

Yes, that's right.

Well I don't know about the other two, but the guy that studied French is very much relevant and qualified.

fcsc has a specific way of recruiting....sometimes they consider old graduates over new ones.

Federal character is used in employment too nt jst school grades, Nigeria belongs to everyone irrespective of sch grades. Abo.ki way manage get NCE may be more brilliant than u but lacked opportunity of uni education so in ur shallow mind he shld nt be given opportunity to work in one Nigeria nonsense

Have u ever wondered y a man without a waec result is ur president. Office of the president is the biggest job in Nigeria yet d person dt got d job no get waec

Besides some of these first-class u guys bought in some private uni cant stand a third class elsewhere

Ask some employers dt conduct aptitude test b4 employment

Dude am just laffing at your post because obviously you are stating your argument is from the stand point of IGNORANCE!!

so becos they didnt pick you means that they have cheated. have you sat to think if its possible that what they need are people who communicates in other foreign language. let me ask you, with ur FIRST CLASS in International Studies CAN[s][/s] you speak any other foreign language appart from English wey all of us know? this is the problem we have in this country if e no favour us na OJORO

JESU , u don finish this guy gaan, make him go work for oil company na 1st class kor second class ni so 1st class set dey look for work sef, na una been dey make pple feel like say skool dey resume because of una abi

padi94:
Dude am just laffing at your post because obviously you are stating your argument is from the stand point of IGNORANCE!!

so becos they didnt pick you means that they have cheated. have you sat to think if its possible that what they need are people who communicates in other foreign language. let me ask you, with ur FIRST CLASS in International Studies CAN[s][/s] you speak any other foreign language appart from English wey all of us know? this is the problem we have in this country if e no favour us na OJORO

shareezey:
Well I don't know about the other two, but the guy that studied French is very much relevant and qualified.

That's absolutely right. Foreign language is one of the major skills needed for foreign service.

padi94:
Dude am just laffing at your post because obviously you are stating your argument is from the stand point of IGNORANCE!!

so becos they didnt pick you means that they have cheated. have you sat to think if its possible that what they need are people who communicates in other foreign language. let me ask you, with ur FIRST CLASS in International Studies CAN[s][/s] you speak any other foreign language appart from English wey all of us know? this is the problem we have in this country if e no favour us na OJORO

Well, it is evident that our arguments are based on IGNORANCE since we have no idea of the criteria. However, on prima facie (i.e first value), we can analyze based on disciplines, grades, skills etc. My mistake here is not recognising the fact that the guy with B.A FRENCH might actually have upper hand.
Be that as it may, the possibility of LONG LEGS cannot be overruled... #Peace!

HeGeMon:
JESU , u don finish this guy gaan, make him go work for oil company na 1st class kor second class ni so 1st class set dey look for work sef, na una been dey make pple feel like say skool dey resume because of una abi

Finish?...LOL. That was just an opinion at best. And I'm not one of those bookish guys in school. I'm a party boy but still had my priorities right. If you read my post at all, you will understand that the job hunting was just a Plan B. I'm already pursuing my dream bro! With or without FIRST CLASS, I'm on the right track...#Peace

Someone cannot play with u, is that how u use to do, but that a nice move to have multiple plans, nice one!

davereal:


Finish?...LOL. That was just an opinion at best. And I'm not one of those bookish guys in school. I'm a party boy but still had my priorities right. If you read my post at all, you will understand that the job hunting was just a Plan B. I'm already pursuing my dream bro! With or without FIRST CLASS, I'm on the right track...#Peace

divinelove:
Federal character is used in employment too nt jst school grades, Nigeria belongs to everyone irrespective of sch grades. Abo.ki way manage get NCE may be more brilliant than u but lacked opportunity of uni education so in ur shallow mind he shld nt be given opportunity to work in one Nigeria nonsense

Have u ever wondered y a man without a waec result is ur president. Office of the president is the biggest job in Nigeria yet d person dt got d job no get waec

Besides some of these first-class u guys bought in some private uni cant stand a third class elsewhere

Ask some employers dt conduct aptitude test b4 employment

You sir, must be a f.ool sir. If Nigeria belongs to everyone irrespective of grade, what is the incentive for hard work?

I pray that you work hard for something you deserve and it is given to someone else who worked less harder, because it jointly belongs to you. .

S.tup.id fellow

chloride6:


You sir, must be a f.ool sir. If Nigeria belongs to everyone irrespective of grade, what is the incentive for hard work?

I pray that you work hard for something you deserve and it is given to someone else who worked less harder, because it jointly belongs to you. .

S.tup.id fellow

U r just a complete idio.t , u call a certificate u bought with money hardwork. Imagine this ode, go and sit down joor.

I never expected u to be able to comprehend this,aptitude is more important in excelling in a job than sch grades, get dt into ur rotten brains slowpoke

divinelove:


U r just a complete idio.t , u call a certificate u bought with money hardwork. Imagine this ode, go and sit down joor.

I never expected u to be able to comprehend this,aptitude is more important in excelling in a job than sch grades, get dt into ur rotten brains slowpoke

I bought certificate? You are delusional person and it is clear to the blind that you struggled through school as you do not seem to possess any semblance of intelligence. You talk about excelling at a job, did they determine the more competent candidate by simply looking at their C.V's?

Like I said earlier, I wish what you said earlier happens to you, so that you can feel the pain.

davereal:


Well, it is evident that our arguments are based on IGNORANCE since we have no idea of the criteria. However, on prima facie (i.e first value), we can analyze based on disciplines, grades, skills etc. My mistake here is not recognising the fact that the guy with B.A FRENCH might actually have upper hand.
Be that as it may, the possibility of LONG LEGS cannot be overruled... #Peace!

Why ur papa no get connection.... Omo dey pray ooo

decub:

Well, I'm glad u acknowledge that graduating with first class is not a guarantee for gaining a job, not even being shortlisted. However, do you also know that in the process of recruitment, very little error (either on your part or the screening officer) can disqualify you. It is not of he that runneth...

BTW, batch B is coming.

Yeah, that's right!

shareezey:
Well I don't know about the other two, but the guy that studied French is very much relevant and qualified.

That's where I got it wrong. Not recognising how very much relevant and qualified the guy with B.A. French is. Thanks bro!

johnbuck81:
fcsc has a specific way of recruiting....sometimes they consider old graduates over new ones.

Well, we are all speculating.

divinelove:
Federal character is used in employment too nt jst school grades, Nigeria belongs to everyone irrespective of sch grades. Abo.ki way manage get NCE may be more brilliant than u but lacked opportunity of uni education so in ur shallow mind he shld nt be given opportunity to work in one Nigeria nonsense

Have u ever wondered y a man without a waec result is ur president. Office of the president is the biggest job in Nigeria yet d person dt got d job no get waec

Besides some of these first-class u guys bought in some private uni cant stand a third class elsewhere

Ask some employers dt conduct aptitude test b4 employment

Well, Federal character I can understand. But how can you determine if an Aboki with NCE is brilliant than someone with first class? There's only one way to know: the Interview Table.
And you talking about buying first class...Seriously?...hahahahaha. Ordinarily, I wouldn't defend myself but it is pertinent sometimes to put people like you who struggled to graduate with Third Class into their position. I'm currently a PG student in UI. Wanna know how I got there? Hard work, intelligence and Grace! If i bought my first class as you cowardly opined, I would not have passed the rigorous examinations into UI PG program. Perhaps, I bought myself into UI too? Well, let me stop here. This is enough to broaden your perspective and know how to join conversations in a public forum like this.

davereal:


Well, Federal character I can understand. But how can you determine if an Aboki with NCE is brilliant than someone with first class? There's only one way to know: the Interview Table.
And you talking about buying first class...Seriously?...hahahahaha. Ordinarily, I wouldn't defend myself but it is pertinent sometimes to put people like you who struggled to graduate with Third Class into their position. I'm currently a PG student in UI. Wanna know how I got there? Hard work, intelligence and Grace! If i bought my first class as you cowardly opined, I would not have passed the rigorous examinations into UI PG program. Perhaps, I bought myself into UI too? Well, let me stop here. This is enough to broaden your perspective and know how to join conversations in a public forum like this.

Bros pls Wich school r u doing M.A?

davereal:


Well, Federal character I can understand. But how can you determine if an Aboki with NCE is brilliant than someone with first class? There's only one way to know: the Interview Table.
And you talking about buying first class...Seriously?...hahahahaha. Ordinarily, I wouldn't defend myself but it is pertinent sometimes to put people like you who struggled to graduate with Third Class into their position. I'm currently a PG student in UI. Wanna know how I got there? Hard work, intelligence and Grace! If i bought my first class as you cowardly opined, I would not have passed the rigorous examinations into UI PG program. Perhaps, I bought myself into UI too? Well, let me stop here. This is enough to broaden your perspective and know how to join conversations in a public forum like this.

I will not dignify a goat like u further with a reply , obviously you are a kid dt lack common sense. I dnt want to talk abt my academic qualifications but if we are in the same field I am qualified to teach u until u bag ur PhD. Coming online to brag abt ur qualifications n getting pg admission when u dnt kw d qualification of the next person is extremely shallow minded. I finished my pg studies close to a decade nw, let me not scare u further with d details.

Fyi almost everyone nw has MSC and studying for PhD so it's nothing nw, it's jst what jobless ppl use to keep themselves busy

chloride6:


I bought certificate? You are delusional person and it is clear to the blind that you struggled through school as you do not seem to possess any semblance of intelligence. You talk about excelling at a job, did they determine the more competent candidate by simply looking at their C.V's?

Like I said earlier, I wish what you said earlier happens to you, so that you can feel the pain.

Stop this blind argument and take a lesson in the use of Federal character in job placement, who kws after the lessons you may realize hw foolish u are.

As it is nw hw u got ur sch grade is glaring, since English comprehension is a mountain u can't climb.

As for me dnt worry I am an established high profile professional who interviews kids like you every nw and then for job placement and my experience has shown dt sch grades are over rated when it comes to excelling in jobs. NCE may beat msc holder on d field depending on individuals involved.

divinelove:


I will not dignify a goat like u further with a reply , obviously you are a kid dt lack common sense. I dnt want to talk abt my academic qualifications but if we are in the same field I am qualified to teach u until u bag ur PhD. Coming online to brag abt ur qualifications n getting pg admission when u dnt kw d qualification of the next person is extremely shallow minded. I finished my pg studies close to a decade nw, let me not scare u further with d details.

Fyi almost everyone nw has MSC and studying for PhD so it's nothing nw, it's jst what jobless ppl use to keep themselves busy

.

My disgust at the reasoning of the OP is due to the fact how he expected to be SURELY shortlisted for interview, like seriously dude do you think you are the only one who graduated with a first class?

What if 200 other first class candidates applied for the same position as you? So you expect yourself to be SURELY shortlisted? Do you know how many first class graduates who are employed some other place and would still apply because of the perks of having a federal government job?

With your parochial reasoning it means if a vacancy is to take only 2:1 candidates and request for only 2:1 candidates, then any 2:1 candidate who applied should feel he should surely be shortlisted?

And for a federal government job, there are other factors which matter other than grades, geo-political zoning as well and other factors matter.

Davereal is stating the obvious thing that should be done...we shouldn't shortlist a 2:2 grad instead of a 1st class...I would have opined that they shortlist everyone that met the requirements for an aptitude test...This is utterly wrong and fraudulent...Nigeria as a nation cannot grow like this....

divinelove:


Stop this blind argument and take a lesson in the use of Federal character in job placement, who kws after the lessons you may realize hw foolish u are.

As it is nw hw u got ur sch grade is glaring, since English comprehension is a mountain u can't climb.

As for me dnt worry I am an established high profile professional who interviews kids like you every nw and then for job placement and my experience has shown dt sch grades are over rated when it comes to excelling in jobs. NCE may beat msc holder on d field depending on individuals involved.

I doubt you are really who you say you are, because you seem to have no iota of sense. Why did your s.tupid self evade my question and cling to the federal character so design for persons of your minute intelligence. The federal character you continuously run your mouth about is a spin of the affirmative action practiced in the USA. Why don't you take a trip there and see how it should be done.

You reason like an slowpoke continuously using conditional statements, like " an NCE holder may be better than an M.Sc graduate ". In the absence of any testing with all things being equal, the M.Sc graduate is a better candidate. But your very poor reasoning capabilities coupled with eternal gratitude for the mediocre federal character system that ensures you feed your family won't make you see reason. It hurts to think that you are or will be someone's father. What an impending evil awaits the world.

I didn't think the day would come when a wuss would defend a non merit driven process, but it did, and you are the one that has the honour of being so intellectually deficient.

ambassadorgozie:



Bros pls Wich school r u doing M.A?

University of Ibadan....UI

davereal:


University of Ibadan....UI

Mteew, nd u said its d best

divinelove:


I will not dignify a goat like u further with a reply , obviously you are a kid dt lack common sense. I dnt want to talk abt my academic qualifications but if we are in the same field I am qualified to teach u until u bag ur PhD. Coming online to brag abt ur qualifications n getting pg admission when u dnt kw d qualification of the next person is extremely shallow minded. I finished my pg studies close to a decade nw, let me not scare u further with d details.

Fyi almost everyone nw has MSC and studying for PhD so it's nothing nw, it's jst what jobless ppl use to keep themselves busy

You are right, I don't know who is who here, and who has Ph D. or not. It probably sounds myopic to tell you that I'm a PG student. But the point I want you to understand is: someone who bought a first class "cannot" pass UI PG school entrance examinations (just one instance).

For the record, you may be a professor now which is a good thing for you and our society, but I'm happy where I am, knowing where I am going...#Peace

ambassadorgozie:






Mteew, nd u said its d best

Hahahaha...just famzing. School matters a little. But what matters most is the individual researcher.

davereal:


Hahahaha...just famzing. School matters a little. But what matters most is the individual researcher.

Yea, individual-70, school-30..
Unilag is d best so far