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Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by lokobyforch(m): 9:18pm On Mar 31, 2017
Abeg who win this debate?

Mike Ozekhome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyYNJgHlq6M

A Senior Advocate of Nigeria, Mr Mike Ozekhome, has stated that the Senate has the right to summon it’s members to order at anytime.

“The Committee of the House or the House, can summon any person. it says any person, and it didn’t say some people.

“It didn’t say whether those elected or not elected. Any person; to bring papers, memos, come with evidence, and that if such a person is summoned to come and testify or to come and answer questions and he refuses to come, under Section 5, the Branch of the National Assembly can order the Police to arrest and bring such a person.”

He added that “the Senate President or the Speaker of the House of Representatives if satisfied that the person has entered into recognizance, they can release the person but if not satisfied, they can tell them to keep the person there.”

He made his position known while speaking on Channels Television’s Breakfast show, Sunrise Daily.

Mr Ozekhome’s view was however in contrast to that of his colleague, Mr Femi Falana, who believes that the Senate has no power to suspend a member even for a single day.

The lawyers made the comments while addressing the Senate’s recent suspension of one of its members, Senator Ali Ndume, for allegedly bringing the House to disrepute, as well as the investigation and summoning of some of its members.

“In matters regarding some of the distinguished Senators, the court has made definitive judicial pronouncements. No legislative House in Nigeria, can suspend a member for one single day and we have a plethora of authorities on this,” Mr Falana stressed.

http://www.channelstv.com/2017/03/31/senate-has-the-right-to-summon-anyone-mike-ozekhome/


Femi Falana


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpaYG2pIA2s
A Senior Advocate of Nigeria, Mr Femi Falana, has stated that no legislative House has the power to suspend a member even for a single day.
He made the comment while addressing the Senate’s recent suspension of one of its members, Senator Ali Ndume, for allegedly bringing the House to disrepute, as well as the investigation and summoning of some of its members.

The Senate spokesman was quoted to have said that although the 1999 constitution does not exactly state that the Senate has the power to suspend a member, they have the power to do so based on the internal House rules.

In reaction to this, the senior lawyer stated that: “The Senate labours under the very erroneous impression that it can do anything, whether allowed by law or not; particularly when it purports to exercising its oversight functions.

“Allegations of crime, certificate forgery, allegations regarding under-payment of Customs duties, are criminal offences that can only be investigated by the appropriate authorities such as the Police.”

According to him, “Section 88, which the Senate always relies on, begins with the phrase: “subject to the provisions of this constitution”, which means the powers of the Police, the powers of the Auditor General of the Federation, the powers of the Attorney General of the Federation, the powers of the President, take presidence over the powers of the Senate to carry out an investigation.
“The Senate with profound respect, the House of Representatives with Profound respect, cannot investigate allegations of crime. That is within the constitutional province of the Police.

“In matters regarding some of the distinguished Senators, the court has made definitive judicial pronouncements. Take for instance, no legislative House in Nigeria, can suspend a member for one single day and we have a plethora of authorities on this,” he stressed.

Recalling a similar situation that occurred in 2010, Mr Falana said: “As a member of the House of Representatives, Senator Dino Melaye and 10 others, out of frustration, submitted a petition to the EFCC, alleging criminal diversion of funds by the Dimeji Bankole-led leadership of the House.”

According to him, the Senators had claimed that the House had been terrorized and scandalized and despite the advice given by lawyers to allow the law take its course, as a petition had been sent to the appropriate agency of government, they still refused to take their hands off the case.

“Dino Melaye and 10 others were suspended indefinitely. I went to court for them and the court said: “Under your own rules, you cannot suspend a member for more than 14 days – Under what law did you suspend these 11 members of the House of Representatives for an indefinitely period of time?”

He made the comment while addressing the Senate’s recent suspension of one of its members, Senator Ali Ndume, for allegedly bringing the House to disrepute, as well as the investigation and summoning of some of its members.

The Senate spokesman was quoted to have said that although the 1999 constitution does not exactly state that the Senate has the power to suspend a member, they have the power to do so based on the internal House rules.

In reaction to this, the senior lawyer stated that: “The Senate labours under the very erroneous impression that it can do anything, whether allowed by law or not; particularly when it purports to exercising its oversight functions.

“Allegations of crime, certificate forgery, allegations regarding under-payment of Customs duties, are criminal offences that can only be investigated by the appropriate authorities such as the Police.”

According to him, “Section 88, which the Senate always relies on, begins with the phrase: “subject to the provisions of this constitution”, which means the powers of the Police, the powers of the Auditor General of the Federation, the powers of the Attorney General of the Federation, the powers of the President, take presidence over the powers of the Senate to carry out an investigation.


“The Senate with profound respect, the House of Representatives with Profound respect, cannot investigate allegations of crime. That is within the constitutional province of the Police.

“In matters regarding some of the distinguished Senators, the court has made definitive judicial pronouncements. Take for instance, no legislative House in Nigeria, can suspend a member for one single day and we have a plethora of authorities on this,” he stressed.

Recalling a similar situation that occurred in 2010, Mr Falana said: “As a member of the House of Representatives, Senator Dino Melaye and 10 others, out of frustration, submitted a petition to the EFCC, alleging criminal diversion of funds by the Dimeji Bankole-led leadership of the House.”

According to him, the Senators had claimed that the House had been terrorized and scandalized and despite the advice given by lawyers to allow the law take its course, as a petition had been sent to the appropriate agency of government, they still refused to take their hands off the case.

“Dino Melaye and 10 others were suspended indefinitely. I went to court for them and the court said: “Under your own rules, you cannot suspend a member for more than 14 days – Under what law did you suspend these 11 members of the House of Representatives for an indefinitely period of time?”

Mr Falana said subsequently, the court ordered an immediate reversal as well as the reinstatement of the senators.

He gave another instance involving the indefinite suspension of a member of the Bauchi House in 2012.

According to him, she was the only female and Christian in the House, consisting of 31 members and her suspension came as a result of a contribution she made, which the men considered as an ‘infra dignitatem’.

The case was however raised in court after a letter written to the House was ignored and the law was properly examined by the High Court as well as the Court of Appeal.

“Relevant constitutional provisions were now determined by the Court of Appeal and the Court of Appeal ruled that no legislative House has the power to suspend a member even for a single day,” he stated.

His colleague, Mike Ozekhome, however believes that the Senate has the right to summon anyone at anytime, regardless of their position.

http://www.channelstv.com/2017/03/31/no-legislative-house-power-suspend-member-femi-falana/

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by Leboska(m): 9:28pm On Mar 31, 2017
Falana's argument sounds more like a beer parlour's argument

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by lokobyforch(m): 9:29pm On Mar 31, 2017
Leboska:
Falana's argument sounds more like a beer parlour's argument
no be small tin ooo

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by captainprogress(m): 9:51pm On Mar 31, 2017
Mike win jare, falana just dey jones...

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by freeze001(f): 9:55pm On Mar 31, 2017
Does Falana mean that the NASS does not or cannot have an internal disciplinary mechanism applicable to its members? Is that not what the independence of the NASS is about? Is he also going to say the NJC has no power to investigate petitions made on judges and make its pronouncements before further action is taken because they are also subject to the provisions of the Constitution?

The NASS must be and is in fact able to activate an internal investigation and disciplinary mechanism for its members particularly on the conduct of any member as in the case of Ali Ndume.

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by psucc(m): 9:56pm On Mar 31, 2017
This falana must be joking. Why is Ndume's suspension elicit to much heat than Jibrin by the HOR?

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by captainprogress(m): 9:57pm On Mar 31, 2017
freeze001:
Does Falana mean that the NASS does not or cannot have an internal disciplinary mechanism applicable to its members? Is that not what the independence of the NASS is about? Is he also going to say the NJC has no power to investigate petitions made on judges and make its pronouncements before further action is taken because they are also subject to the provisions of the Constitution?

The NASS must be and is in fact able to activate an internal investigation and disciplinary mechanism for its members particularly on the conduct of any member as in the case of Ali Ndume.
He is too bias to say the obvious truth

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by mobaking: 10:17pm On Mar 31, 2017
Ok,falana was not biased when he took the national assembly to court over Dino melaye's suspension?.

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by swtdrms(m): 10:28pm On Mar 31, 2017
mobaking:
Ok,falana was not biased when he took the national assembly to court over Dino melaye's suspension?.

Don't mind them. Supporters of corruption will always support their corrupt heroes.

Back to the debate, Falana expantiated at length citing difference sections of the constitution and court judgments while Ozikhome didn't elaborate enough with sections of the constitution that give them the power and also no explanation of court orders.

I give it to Falan

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by lokobyforch(m): 10:39pm On Mar 31, 2017
swtdrms:


Don't mind them. Supporters of corruption will always support their corrupt heroes.

Back to the debate, Falana expantiated at length citing difference sections of the constitution and court judgments while Ozikhome didn't elaborate enough with sections of the constitution that give them the power and also no explanation of court orders.

I give it to Falan
Really, u are saying a school principal cannot discipline a school teacher because it was not stated in the appointment letter, we bend nominal Nigerian laws just to suit selfish interest... a police man does not have to wear uniform because he was first a citizen.

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by fergie001: 10:40pm On Mar 31, 2017
Watched it on Channels this morning,I saw 2 people trying as much as possible to position themselves for jobs from both arms of Government.
But that Ozekhome mouth too sweet,though I know he is a PDP lawyer and cited important sections.
Falana already has his hands stained,and cited equally nice assertions that dealt realisticallly on morals rather than legal krankumkrankums.
OP,u tried but Ozekhome also mentioned Sections 2,3,4,5.He also quoted the Customs Act(CIMA),section 31.
He also gave examples of the Major-General in charge of FRSC who still puts on the FRSC uniform,and 2 other examples.
He cited the case between Arthur Nzeribe and Senate where he called them legislathieves.Arthur Nzeribe was suspended for 12months.
He said for the fact that even Prof. Itse Sagay draws salaries and emoluments from the FG is entitled to be summoned,even if he weren't drawing salaries,he can be summoned.
He also stated by virtue of the CIMA Act,Hameed Alli is the CG and not a sole administrator,it is mandated DAT every custom official is recognized by his/her uniform.
He also stated that Magu ceased to be EFCC boss since on the 17th of March,that his name was rejected,and he can't continue in his capacity by virtue of section 2 of the EFCC Act.
That the President reserved the right to have left him in Ag.Capacity for 4years but by virtue of the fact that he has been rejected,there is no position for AG.Executive Chairman.
I maybe wrong sha,
Lawyers in d house,ngwanu.

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by swtdrms(m): 11:01pm On Mar 31, 2017
lokobyforch:

Really, u are saying a school principal cannot discipline a school teacher because it was not stated in the appointment letter, we bend nominal Nigerian laws just to suit selfish interest... a police man does not have to wear uniform because he was first a citizen.

That's the problem with ur ilks, u lack intelligent and analytical reasoning.
Government affairs is not based on discretion, it entirely based on provisions of the constitution. And these provisions must be strictly adhered to. That's the more reason why constitution is being amended on a regular basis. If you don't have enough knowledge of how government operates its better you keep quiet.

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by babyfaceafrica: 11:18pm On Mar 31, 2017
Who cares!!
Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by psucc(m): 7:26am On Apr 01, 2017
swtdrms:


That's the problem with ur ilks, u lack intelligent and analytical reasoning.
Government affairs is not based on discretion, it entirely based on provisions of the constitution. And these provisions must be strictly adhered to. That's the more reason why constitution is being amended on a regular basis. If you don't have enough knowledge of how government operates its better you keep quiet.
As if you have ever seen the cover design of the said Constitution.

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by sammyj: 7:27am On Apr 01, 2017
Mike na wash !!!! grin grin

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by lokobyforch(m): 7:51am On Apr 01, 2017
swtdrms:


That's the problem with ur ilks, u lack intelligent and analytical reasoning.
Government affairs is not based on discretion, it entirely based on provisions of the constitution. And these provisions must be strictly adhered to. That's the more reason why constitution is being amended on a regular basis. If you don't have enough knowledge of how government operates its better you keep quiet.
But when Buhari could not provide the necessary certification, the constitution was not important, when judges were treated like mare criminals, the constitution was debatable, u are just ignorantly foolish...

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by President99: 8:19am On Apr 01, 2017
lokobyforch:

Really, u are saying a school principal cannot discipline a school teacher because it was not stated in the appointment letter, we bend nominal Nigerian laws just to suit selfish interest... a police man does not have to wear uniform because he was first a citizen.
Let Mike tell us the part of the constitutional provisions or subsisting court judgment he relied on to say so ; he should keep his wishful thinking to himself or his stupid logic. What makes Mike a lawyer is still law and not logic. Falana cited constitutional provisions and subsisting high court and appeal court judgments to buttress his stand. Suspending a NASS member is illegal coz he represents a constituency which is part of Nigeria. If a NASS member is suspended, are u telling us that his constituents cant be part of lawmaking in Nigeria? There should be other ways of disciplining erring members!

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by DollarAngel(m): 8:44am On Apr 01, 2017
Kettle calling pot black, that's the case of our seantors suspending fellow senator

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by Victornezzar: 8:47am On Apr 01, 2017
Leboska:
Falana's argument sounds more like a beer parlour's argument

Ah na pesin papa oo

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by michoim(m): 8:47am On Apr 01, 2017
Mike Ozekhome is a PDP lawyer that benefit from the proceeds of corruption. So he can never talk straight.

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by Acidosis(m): 8:48am On Apr 01, 2017
fergie001:
Watched it on Channels this morning,I saw 2 people trying as much as possible to position themselves for jobs from both arms of Government.
But that Ozekhome mouth too sweet,though I know he is a PDP lawyer and cited important sections.
Falana already has his hands stained,and cited equally nice assertions that dealt realisticallly on morals rather than legal krankumkrankums.
OP,u tried but Ozekhome also mentioned Sections 2,3,4,5.He also quoted the Customs Act(CIMA),section 31.
He also gave examples of the Major-General in charge of FRSC who still puts on the FRSC uniform,and 2 other examples.
He cited the case between Arthur Nzeribe and Senate where he called them legislathieves.Arthur Nzeribe was suspended for 12months.
He said for the fact that even Prof. Itse Sagay draws salaries and emoluments from the FG is entitled to be summoned,even if he weren't drawing salaries,he can be summoned.
He also stated by virtue of the CIMA Act,Hameed Alli is the CG and not a sole administrator,it is mandated DAT every custom official is recognized by his/her uniform.
He also stated that Magu ceased to be EFCC boss since on the 17th of March,that his name was rejected,and he can't continue in his capacity by virtue of section 2 of the EFCC Act.
That the President reserved the right to have left him in Ag.Capacity for 4years but by virtue of the fact that he has been rejected,there is no position for AG.Executive Chairman.
I maybe wrong sha,
Lawyers in d house,ngwanu.

Everything you said is true... I watched it also, and I think Mike is on a right path. He also mentioned how a Nigerian was rejected by the house in the US. Obama was furious seeing that he believed so much in the man to run the agency. As good as his thoughts were, Obama bowed and tendered another name.


So what's so wrong in rejecting Magu? Nigerians will eventually kill democracy. Mike stated that the fact that anyone does not like the faces of certain Senators does not mean we must alter the constitution.

Seriously, Mike was on point. That you love Buhari and hate Saraki changes nothing! Put that shitty thoughts in your mind and allow the constitution prevail.

Meanwhile, the Senate has the full right to summon any Nigerian, including the common man on the street.

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by seangy4konji: 8:50am On Apr 01, 2017
i watched the programme and falana made more sense than that mike or what ever...he was just making noise...

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by ALAYORMII: 8:51am On Apr 01, 2017
April 1st is named FOOL'S DAY, after Steve April. He was born on 1st April 1579. He did 105 businesses in his lifetime. He lost all his father's assets, and so everyone started calling him father of the fools.

At 19, he married a 61-year-old woman who divorced him after a year because of his foolishness. He used to read all kinds of fake stories like you are doing now.

Happy April Fool's day

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by LastProphet: 8:51am On Apr 01, 2017
Ozhekome, the senior advocate of thieves, he reminds me of the character Saul in the Breaking Bad film series.

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by gare(f): 8:51am On Apr 01, 2017
lokobyforch:
Abeg who win this debate?



http://www.channelstv.com/2017/03/31/senate-has-the-right-to-summon-anyone-mike-ozekhome/




http://www.channelstv.com/2017/03/31/no-legislative-house-power-suspend-member-femi-falana/

What about those that where suspended before now, Jibrin was suspended for whistle blowing, I expected Falana to fight for him, instead he kept quiet, he never mentioned his case, which very recent, I believe the senate has it rule books which they follow, Nndume may not have followed due process in presenting the issues

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by duni04(m): 8:52am On Apr 01, 2017
The difference between the 2 lawyers is clear. Falana cited references in Tony momoh Vs the Senate, to show that the Senate or any Parliament has no right to arbitrarily summon anyone especially to settle political scores. At best the Senate can sue for libel. On Ndume's suspension, Falana cited Dino melaye Vs the house of representatives to show that the house has no power to suspend a lawmaker for even a single day. There are already precedents for these cases. The courts have already interpreted Mike Ozekhome's postulations. Ozekhome is acting and behaving like he doesn't read legal reports. Besides, anything he says is morally tainted since he has corruption cases with the EFCC for money laundering pending in court.

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by rusher14: 8:52am On Apr 01, 2017
fergie001:
Watched it on Channels this morning,I saw 2 people trying as much as possible to position themselves for jobs from both arms of Government.
But that Ozekhome mouth too sweet,though I know he is a PDP lawyer and cited important sections.
Falana already has his hands stained,and cited equally nice assertions that dealt realisticallly on morals rather than legal krankumkrankums.
OP,u tried but Ozekhome also mentioned Sections 2,3,4,5.He also quoted the Customs Act(CIMA),section 31.
He also gave examples of the Major-General in charge of FRSC who still puts on the FRSC uniform,and 2 other examples.

He cited the case between Arthur Nzeribe and Senate where he called them legislathieves.Arthur Nzeribe was suspended for 12months.
He said for the fact that even Prof. Itse Sagay draws salaries and emoluments from the FG is entitled to be summoned,even if he weren't drawing salaries,he can be summoned.
He also stated by virtue of the CIMA Act,Hameed Alli is the CG and not a sole administrator,it is mandated DAT every custom official is recognized by his/her uniform.
He also stated that Magu ceased to be EFCC boss since on the 17th of March,that his name was rejected,and he can't continue in his capacity by virtue of section 2 of the EFCC Act.
That the President reserved the right to have left him in Ag.Capacity for 4years but by virtue of the fact that he has been rejected,there is no position for AG.Executive Chairman.

I maybe wrong sha,
Lawyers in d house,ngwanu.

In green: has nothing to do with Ndume's case.

In red: That an act of illegality took place unchallenged doesn't make it legal.

Falana has cited 2 cases to buttress his point.

Case 1: involved Dino Melaye who was suspended by the leadership of the house of reps beyond the 14 day house rules and a judgement was given in his favour as a result.

Case 2: The Bauchi member of the state house who was suspended but got justice in the court, as the court ruled suspension of any member of any house for any period was totally illegal and against the constitution of the country which always enjoys superiority.

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by edogu(m): 8:54am On Apr 01, 2017
babyfaceafrica:
Who cares!!
NFCS does cheesy cheesy

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by AntiWailer: 8:54am On Apr 01, 2017
Mike supporting thieves since time immemorial.

That is how he came to defend Fayose on freezing of account until efcc discovered millions of naira transfered to him from the proceed of crime with evidence.

It is common sense.


On what ground was Ndume suspended ?

For saying he came across allegation that can stain the house in the media and recommended that the house investigate it according to their rules.

Why should he be suspended irrespective of the outcome.?

Only hopeless youths jubilate at this suspension because to them every problem is people supporting Buhari Vs People not supporting Buhari.

Some one foolishly compared it to Principal suspending student in a school.

The question remains if a Principal can SUSPEND a student for not washing his car or dating his daughter.

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by JideAmuGiaka: 8:54am On Apr 01, 2017
swtdrms:


That's the problem with ur ilks, u lack intelligent and analytical reasoning.
Government affairs is not based on discretion, it entirely based on provisions of the constitution. And these provisions must be strictly adhered to. That's the more reason why constitution is being amended on a regular basis. If you don't have enough knowledge of how government operates its better you keep quiet.

I disagree with you.

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Re: Mike Ozekhome Vs Femi Falana On Ndume's Suspension by fergie001: 8:55am On Apr 01, 2017
rusher14:


In green: has nothing to do with Ndume's case.

In red: That an act of illegality took place unchallenged doesn't make it legal.
Falana has cited 2 cases to buttress his point.

Case 1: involved Dino Melaye who was suspended by the leadership of the house of reps beyond the 14 day house rules and a judgement was given in his favour as a result.

Case 2: The Bauchi member of the state house who was suspended but got justice in the court, as the court ruled suspension of any member of any house for any period was totally illegal and against the constitution of the country which always enjoys superiority.
Reported his interview not Ndume or Sagay issues alone.
I am not in the court of law,
The veracity or otherwise will be well documented when it is in court.
Nonetheless,I have my own submissions but I choose to keep them to myself because my opinions does not concern dem.
As I said earlier,I saw 2 men submitting CV,that's all.

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