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Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 1:34pm On Dec 27, 2009
I should definitely found myself in a world of ecstasy if these Internet cowards fanning for censorship of contributors based on ethnic bias should petition the federal government of Nigeria to tear down the walls of federal character crap, quota system and state of origin.

Why does this guy like writing elongated and inane crap?

Just simply say "I think the hypocrites on NL should spend more of their energy on pressuring the Nigerian Government to tear down institutional programs such as the ethnic quota system"

Simple to understand, concise clear and fresh
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by Katsumoto: 1:40pm On Dec 27, 2009
SEFAGO:

Why does this guy like writing elongated and inane crap?

Just simply say "I think the hypocrites on NL should spend more of their energy on pressuring the Nigerian Government to tear down institutional programs such as the ethnic quota system"

Simple to understand, concise clear and fresh  

He either tries to mask the lack of potency in his message or is trying to appear more intelligent than the average reader. Either way, I find reading his posts a bit unnecessarily laborious.
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by Dede1(m): 1:59pm On Dec 27, 2009
Katsumoto:

As it is usually the case, you miss the point. I will however, summarise the points of the post:
1. Tribal bashing should stop; it doesn't help and no tribe is innocent. Like the proverb says, " those who live in glass houses should not throw stones"
2. We agree that there are problems in Nigeria; we should use these sections to discuss issues intelligently, and profer solutions. Chinese proverb - "a journey of a thousand miles starts with one step". Rational discourse may lead to real solutions and perhaps a change of mind-set.
3. Repeating of past errors will only lead self-destruction.

You have made it clear that you want the disintegration of Nigeria. For those of us that want a better life for ourselves and our families with or without Nigeria, let us continue to find a way forward. I refuse to be held back by mistakes of a generation that were not too enlightened. I will continue to be positive because Nigeria is my country and I want a great place for my children to live in and be a part of. I do not want to be in a nation with just Yoruba people, I want to be in a nation with Igbo, Ijaw, hausa, Tiv, etc.

There is Igbo proverb that says “human can not break the neck without the head”.

It is very funny on your part to write about mistakes of our past generation. Ironically, the so-called mistakes are still with us today and handsomely sponsored by the federal government of Nigeria. Nigeria rides on the wheel of sectionalism.

I think it will amount to acts of futility to request the products of such institutionalized sectionalism to behavior or act differently. The source of the alleged Internet discomfort could be eliminated by disintegration of Nigeria.

It is always a wiser medical approach to cure the disease than to treat the symptoms of the disease.
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by kosovo(m): 2:04pm On Dec 27, 2009
where is afam?
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by Katsumoto: 2:06pm On Dec 27, 2009
Dede1:

There is Igbo proverb that says “human can not break the neck without the head”.

It is very funny on your part to write about mistakes of our past generation. Ironically, the so-called mistakes are still with us today and handsomely sponsored by the federal government of Nigeria. Nigeria rides on the wheel of sectionalism.

I think it will amount to acts of futility to request the products of such institutionalized sectionalism to behavior or act differently. The source of the alleged Internet discomfort could be eliminated by disintegration of Nigeria.

It is always a wiser medical approach to cure the disease than to treat the symptoms of the disease. 



It is your view that disintegrating Nigeria is the solution while it is my view that changing our mind-sets and challenging our political office holders collectively will lead to a better and prosperous society. I hold this view because the looters in our midst will not disappear with the disintegration of Nigeria and the rise of new republics.
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by Dede1(m): 2:11pm On Dec 27, 2009
SEFAGO:

Why does this guy like writing elongated and inane crap?

Just simply say "I think the hypocrites on NL should spend more of their energy on pressuring the Nigerian Government to tear down institutional programs such as the ethnic quota system"

Simple to understand, concise clear and fresh  
[

"I think the hypocrites on NL should spend more of their energy on pressuring the Nigerian Government to tear down institutional programs such as the ethnic quota system" = Incomplete sentence

The above left much to be desired

I do not get into the acts of generalization by calling people names. In addition, I obey the law of grammatical lexis and structure.
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 2:19pm On Dec 27, 2009
He either tries to mask the lack of potency in his message or is trying to appear more intelligent than the average reader. Either way, I find reading his posts a bit unnecessarily laborious.

Agreed. It is common knowledge to intelligent people why the quota system is in place; revealing sentiments against the quota system suggests significant ignorance about the foundation albeit rocky one of Nigeria. The British made it a colonial policy that no Northerner would be educated, we cannot change this anymore- the past is the past. The quota system will not prevent a brilliant igbo person from getting a job.

We can now focus on the future- disintegration cannot be a solution. Disintegration would destroy us. The igbos have some warped notion that they are better than other tribes- yes I said it, sue me- and that they can make an economically feasible state, but i doubt it. So why not try and solve the problems we have in Nigeria? Moreover, the reason for Nigeria's problem has nothing to do with tribe- I lived a significant part of my life with the so-called ruling class and I rarely saw any ethnic bias.

Furthermore, Mekusxx and company blame people on NL as tribalist while unable to self-reflect and understand that they are no better. To make matters worse, mekusxx does not live in Nigerian and is likely to be empathetic about the problems of igbos in Nigeria but it seems he is more willing to "improve the igbo plight" by posting messages about "80 year old Yoruba man sleeping with 18 year old girl." You can understand why the majority of us think you are a re-tard.

Anyways, I cannot change your attitudes, but I can at least change mine. In retrospect, I am happy I encountered people like you because it gave me an insight into the plight of the uneducated masses.
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 2:24pm On Dec 27, 2009
"I think the hypocrites on NL should spend more of their energy on pressuring the Nigerian Government to tear down institutional programs such as the ethnic quota system" = Incomplete sentence

But it wasn't meant to be complete. I was showing you a sketch of concise and direct language, and not the painting itself. I am quite allergic to fluff sentences. They have the tendency to give me a headache.
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by Nemeziz9ja: 2:32pm On Dec 27, 2009
@ Politics Section Moderator:
why are you locking my post?
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-372197.0.html
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by Dede1(m): 2:48pm On Dec 27, 2009
Katsumoto:

It is your view that disintegrating Nigeria is the solution while it is my view that changing our mind-sets and challenging our political office holders collectively will lead to a better and prosperous society. I hold this view because the looters in our midst will not disappear with the disintegration of Nigeria and the rise of new republics.


I am not much impressed with the amalgam of your political philosophy. However, I hate to rain on your parade day. I remembered when Igbo extractions were elected into political offices in Lagos, Hausa extraction was elected the first mayor of Enugu, one of the Benin federal constituencies elected Igbo extraction and a section of Port Harcourt municipality was represented by Yoruba extraction voted into office by Ndigbo.

These political relics are things of 60s before Nigeria/Biafra civil war and probably have no place in today’s Nigeria. The fact remains that Nigeria is growing very fast toward disintegration. There is no amount of accelerated display of political naiveté or delusional mindset that will change the course of Nigerian destiny.
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 2:52pm On Dec 27, 2009
I am not much impressed with the amalgam of your political philosophy. However, I hate to rain on your parade day. I remembered when Igbo extractions were elected into political offices in Lagos, Hausa extraction was elected the first mayor of Enugu, one of the Benin federal constituencies elected Igbo extraction and a section of Port Harcourt municipality was represented by Yoruba extraction voted into office by Ndigbo.

These political relics are things of 60s before Nigeria/Biafra civil war and probably have no place in today’s Nigeria. The fact remains that Nigeria is growing very fast toward disintegration. There is no amount of accelerated display of political naiveté or delusional mindset that will change the course of Nigerian destiny.

Oh my god, he is doing it again. I have a headache.
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by Dede1(m): 3:02pm On Dec 27, 2009
SEFAGO:

But it wasn't meant to be complete. I was showing you a sketch of concise and direct language, and not the painting itself. I am quite allergic to fluff sentences. They have the tendency to give me a headache.

Shut up your putrid oral cavity, you lamb dung.

You are funny as hell and a real chip from an old block. What a nuisance? If you really want to show correct examples, I guess you would have started with complete sentences so that I could emulate your acts. I do not think that proffering examples marred by disjointed sentences are the best way to impact knowledge.
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 3:07pm On Dec 27, 2009
Shut up your putrid oral cavity, you lamb dung.

You are funny as hell and a real chip from an old block. What a nuisance? If you really want to show correct examples, I guess you would have started with complete sentences so that I could emulate your acts. I do not think that proffering examples marred by disjointed sentences are the best way to impact knowledge.

And again
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by Beaf: 3:41pm On Dec 27, 2009
We are getting into another "tribal" war here.

I simply say, the following people have nothing at all to add to political discuss;

[size=14pt]Paroh Frey
Depilot
Becomerich
Tpia
*Jona
Mekusxx
Sjeezy8
Babapupa[/size]

Their posts are always foul mouthed, irritating, "tribal" or in the case of Paroh Frey and Depilot, even contain threats to other users safety (something that should concern the morderators very deeply, but there is no sign it does).
These people should be firmly banned and if they keep popping up, ban again and re-ban!
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by bkbaybe99: 5:45pm On Dec 27, 2009
Ah, andrew uweh has suddenly turned neutral. Oops,so has beaf.those two are about the worst tribalists you can find on here along with nchara, 'mental'gong, wilywily,igwe1,ezeachi and co! Seun is mor+on,and so is kosovo;they'll ban u once they do not agree with your opinon, are not nigerian (but was reported by the nigerians u have disagreements with on this forum~~~thus, letting you know that you're an 'outsider'),or if u were reported by a female.my bottomline is even tho mekussxx makes me laugh (his rants are akin to that of the neighborhood drunken clown),his postings are becoming more disturbing by the day,this should be looked into.           


PS:dede1,sefago is right, your writing does give one a headache!!! it is devoid of anykind of structure,and,you (mis)using big words (which are most times wrongly spelt) makes you look even more uneducated to the person(s) u were trying to impress in the first place!
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by Beaf: 5:54pm On Dec 27, 2009
bk_baybe99:

Ah, andrew uweh has suddenly turned neutral. Oops,so has beaf.those two are about the worst tribalists you can find on here alond with nchara, 'mental'gong, wilywily,igwe1,ezeachi and co! Seun is mor+on,and so is kosovo;they'll ban u once they do not agree with your opinon, are not nigerian (but was reported by the nigerians u have disagreements with on this forum~~~thus, letting you know that you're an 'outsider'),or if u were reported by a female.my bottomline is even tho mekussxx makes me laugh (his rants are akin to that of the neighborhood drunken clown),his postings are becoming more disturbing by the day,this should be looked into.            PS:dede1,sefago is right, your wrting does give one a headache.it is deviod of anyking of structure,and,you (mis)using big words (which are most times wrongly spelt)makes you look even more uneducated to the person(s) u were trying to impress in the first place!

Name:  bk_baybe99
Posts: 16 (3.200 per day)
Position: Active Poster
[size=14pt]Date Registered: December 21, 2009, 10:30 PM[/size]
Last Active: Today at 05:50:43 PM


Tell us your real user name sucker! grin grin grin grin as well as the reason Seun and Kosovo banned you
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by bkbaybe99: 6:02pm On Dec 27, 2009
^^^^well, thanx to tribalistic crybabies like urself, ive been banned (numerous times; which has had to result in a change of name) for espousing my views which always seem to fall along the lines : why do people like urself, [b]mental[/b]gong , nchara, mekussxxx and co always start tribal rants against the yorubas, why do u curse out everyone that disagrees with u? etc. as per the "real" user name issue, i dont think i get the question. i thot your "user name" is whatever name ure registered to use. maybe u can explain better, 'sucka'!!!!
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by AndreUweh(m): 6:40pm On Dec 27, 2009
bk_baybe99:

Ah, andrew uweh has suddenly turned neutral. Oops,so has beaf.those two are about the worst tribalists you can find on here along with nchara, 'mental'gong, wilywily,igwe1,ezeachi and co! Seun is mor+on,and so is kosovo;they'll ban u once they do not agree with your opinon, are not nigerian (but was reported by the nigerians u have disagreements with on this forum~~~thus, letting you know that you're an 'outsider'),or if u were reported by a female.my bottomline is even tho mekussxx makes me laugh (his rants are akin to that of the neighborhood drunken clown),his postings are becoming more disturbing by the day,this should be looked into.           



PS:dede1,sefago is right, your writing does give one a headache!!! it is devoid of anykind of structure,and,you (mis)using big words (which are most times wrongly spelt) makes you look even more uneducated to the person(s) u were trying to impress in the first place!

who let the dogs out,uh uh,huh!.
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by kosovo(m): 6:45pm On Dec 27, 2009
This has to END now!
    Enough of these tribalistic and ethnocentric applesauce


Further tibalistic comments would be deleted, subsequent ethnocentric trumpery would lead to Ban!

Thanks
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by bkbaybe99: 6:56pm On Dec 27, 2009
Andre Uweh:

who let the dogs out,uh uh,huh!.


it's actually, 'who let the dogs out? woof, woof, woof!'
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by tumfulu1: 10:19pm On Dec 27, 2009
seun is driving traffic to his site by these inflammatory tpoics do u think he gives a damn?
if topics like 'I love Nigeria' and 'Brother, I love you' were posted how will he get money?

Next up is pornworld.nairaland.com watchout seun is about the cream
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by MrCrackles(m): 10:22pm On Dec 27, 2009
Beaf:

We are getting into another "tribal" war here.

I simply say, the following people have nothing at all to add to political discuss;

[size=14pt]Paroh Frey
Depilot
Becomerich
Tpia
*Jona
Mekusxx
Sjeezy8
Babapupa[/size]

Their posts are always foul mouthed, irritating, "tribal" or in the case of Paroh Frey and Depilot, even contain threats to other users safety (something that should concern the morderators very deeply, but there is no sign it does).
These people should be firmly banned and if they keep popping up, ban again and re-ban!
grin grin grin
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by tumfulu1: 10:25pm On Dec 27, 2009
Beaf:

We are getting into another "tribal" war here.

I simply say, the following people have nothing at all to add to political discuss;

[size=14pt]Paroh Frey
Depilot
Becomerich
Tpia
*Jona
Mekusxx
Sjeezy8
Babapupa[/size]

Their posts are always foul mouthed, irritating, "tribal" or in the case of Paroh Frey and Depilot, even contain threats to other users safety (something that should concern the morderators very deeply, but there is no sign it does).
These people should be firmly banned and if they keep popping up, ban again and re-ban!

Are you scared?
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by OAM4J: 10:53pm On Dec 27, 2009
I know it is not all that easy moderating this forum. There is need to balance between freedom of speech/expression and insults/threats/ tribalistic & ethnocentric posts, and this is not easy.

You will all agree with me that if this forum is too moderated, it might become boring and too legalistic hence loss of interest.

What we can do is to keep reporting excesses.

To this end I will give Kosovo some credits. he has been been very responsive to reports and most of the excesses happened when he was not online.
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by bilymuse: 10:54pm On Dec 27, 2009
"Though I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will fight to the death, to protect your right to say it" - voltaire
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by babapupa: 12:17am On Dec 28, 2009
I expressed the same concern a few weeks ago, unfortunately, NL has settled in as a tribal forum and it ain't changing anytime soon.

A lot posters on NL sounds very immature, tribally sensitive, insecure, Ignorant of basic facts and are only interested in discussing via their tribal lenses.

Getting into discussions sometimes is nothing but a waste of internet time since every thread tends to degenerate an disintegrates along tribal lines especially with tribally insecure folks posting useless tribal threads and diverting good and meaningful threads to secure their daily tribal juice. I honestly think so it shall remain for obvious reasons.
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by Nobody: 12:18am On Dec 28, 2009
Beaf:

We are getting into another "tribal" war here.

I simply say, the following people have nothing at all to add to political discuss;

[size=14pt]

Beaf

Paroh Frey
Depilot
Becomerich
Tpia
*Jona
Mekusxx
Sjeezy8
Babapupa[/size]

Their posts are always foul mouthed, irritating, "tribal" or in the case of Paroh Frey and Depilot, even contain threats to other users safety (something that should concern the morderators very deeply, but there is no sign it does).
These people should be firmly banned and if they keep popping up, ban again and re-ban!
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by Nobody: 12:19am On Dec 28, 2009
I must say- beaf's gifs and photos are so annoying and irritating its a wonder he hasnt been banned.

Loco at its best
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by eyesonyou: 1:41am On Dec 28, 2009
kosovo:

This has to END now!
    Enough of these tribalistic and ethnocentric applesauce


Further tibalistic comments would be deleted, subsequent ethnocentric trumpery would lead to Ban!

Thanks

Thanks for lending your ears to the concern(s) of your patrons.
Start by banning mekuxx, *jona, nachara, willy-willy, metal-gong. You don't have to wait for long, these perpetual offenders will cross your path in no time!
Once again, thanks for lending your ears.
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by MandingoII(m): 6:12am On Dec 28, 2009
[size=18pt]Censorship anywhere is WRONG!
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Let em rant. Its good for em.


If some of you had your way. Nothing but sanitized bullsh!t will be posted.
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by texazzpete(m): 8:02am On Dec 28, 2009
I see the tribalists have started fighting back. No big surprise there.
In any decent, well moderated forum, rules are laid down and rules are obeyed. Divisive and hate-filled topics are disallowed completely. Why is Nairaland any different?
As if on cue, i see people trotting out inane arguments to support their position. Who cares if the Nigerian govt. practices quota system, does that mean we need to entrench divisive lines of tribalism in everything we do or say? Is there to be no inflection point where we realise what needs to be done for the future and work towards it?
What then is the point of everything if the educated young minds revert happily into the gutter we're trying to get out from? Why do we not realise the essential STUPIDITY inherent in tribal bias and tribalism? We come from a Negroid race enslaved in the past by the Arabs and by the caucasians of Europe and America simply because our difference was easily explained away as inferiority. Now, here we are keen to drive such lines of division and inferiority amongst ourselves!

Even as kids, one of the first tales we were told was about the fact that while one single broom stick was incredibly weak, a bunched group of broomsticks became far stronger. The lesson was 'together we stand, divided we fall'. Yet here we are in a nation desperately needing unity and strength to survive, and all you educated louts can think about is to further drive down the division amongst us.

There is a need for stronger, more effective moderation in Nairaland, and nowhere is it needed more than the Politics section. Tribalism aside, the fact that the mods see nothing wrong in someone posting a topic of 'Man stabs neighbour over girlfriend' or 'Man turns into goat' in a Politics section is serious cause for worry.
Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by texazzpete(m): 8:08am On Dec 28, 2009
MandingoII:

[size=18pt]Censorship anywhere is WRONG!
[/size]


Let em rant. Its good for em.


If some of you had your way. Nothing but sanitized bullsh!t will be posted.


I admire your convictions. I hope you take time out to demonstrate your strong stand by travelling to Saudi Arabia to preach the gospel. Or by bringing in 30 Kg of Indian Hemp to Singapore or Malaysia.
You could also try jogging down a busy street in Tel Aviv with a Swastika emblazoned on your t-shirt.

Bottom line, rules are in place to be obeyed, and morally grey areas should be avoided.


Seriously, this is not even 100% about 'censorship'. in most cases, those posts and posters add nothing to the Politics section, and nothing at all to the discussion of Politics.

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