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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by femi4: 9:47am On Apr 25, 2017
Joagbaje:


Matthew 1:5_6[/b]Mat 1:5 — Mat 1:6
and Salmon the father of Boaz by [b]Rahab
, and Boaz the father of Obed by Ruth, and Obed the father of Jesse, and Jesse the father of David the king.
And David was the father of Solomon by the wife of Uriah,
,

Rahab was a prostitute
Is Rahab the wife of Jesse? Keep trying.

Rahab gave birth to David's forefather and not David

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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by tafrica(m): 9:47am On Apr 25, 2017
By JS' preaching, should we stop saying Jesus was given birth to by a virgin but by a harlot?
How could he conveniently make David's great grandmother who was even in the lineage of David's father look like David's original mother and concluded David's mother was a harlot?

Wrong analysis and preaching.
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by Bonaventura(m): 9:48am On Apr 25, 2017
Jacksonville:
Nigerians! Don't be too quick to cast your stones. Some hidden truths are known only through revelation. Take it or leave it.

It's normal ponder on this, as it isn't written where David's mum was a "harlot", but this is coming from a man of revelations. Some truths are revealed to those whom God trusts. It's left for the receiver to tell the world or not.


#Mytake
Take back 'your take' because you no get sense
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by femi4: 9:49am On Apr 25, 2017
tafrica:
By JS' preaching, should we stop saying Jesus was given birth to by a virgin but by a harlot?
How could he conveniently make David's great grandmother who was even in the lineage of David's father look like David's original mother and concluded David's mother was a harlot?

Wrong analysis and preaching.
abi o, no mind am
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by dragonking3: 9:50am On Apr 25, 2017
0b10010011:
Suleman is psychological unstable. He has been through a lot and just trying hard to focus. Left to him alone, he will abscond out of the country but trying hard to be firm.


I won't judge him by anything he says now. A confused man can say anything.



Am sure the wife went to cool her head in the UK.
Actually,you are the one who is mentally unstable because you don't do your research yet you rush to criticize. Alot of findings show that David's mum was a prostitute. Apostle suleman is right.

https://opentheword.org/2013/08/09/king-davids-big-dark-secret/
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by mapet: 9:50am On Apr 25, 2017
sekundosekundo:


Joagbaje: :
Apostle was not wrong Rahab the harlot who saved the spies was the great grand mother of David . She Gave birth to Boaz ,boaz gave birth to salmon ,salmon gave birth to David father jessee. And I sure the apostle didn't say it to put David down but rather to glorify God that it doesn't matter your background God can change your story


This is the reason you say for JAMB 20 times.

I was thinking of a way to reply this guy, but you've done it....albeit very apt
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by Joagbaje(m): 9:52am On Apr 25, 2017
femi4:
Is Rahab the wife of Jesse? Keep trying.

Rahab gave birth to David's forefather and not David

Luke 18:38
And he cried out, “Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!”


Was Jesus son of David

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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by dragonking3: 9:52am On Apr 25, 2017
wellmax:
On this, Apostle Sulieman is wrong
Bible says All Have Sinned

And in sin did my mother conceive me. He goes back to the earliest moment of his being, not to traduce his mother, but to acknowledge the deep tap roots of his sin. It is a wicked wresting of Scripture to deny that original sin and natural depravity are here taught.
Not everything is in the bible. Nigerians should learn to do research instead of rambling on something they have no idea about

https://opentheword.org/2013/08/09/king-davids-big-dark-secret/
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by dragonking3: 9:53am On Apr 25, 2017
Pavore9:


God trusts indeed!

That bloke is running on his own steam and it has an end!

Do your research and shut up.

https://opentheword.org/2013/08/09/king-davids-big-dark-secret/
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by supereagle(m): 9:53am On Apr 25, 2017
Jacksonville:
Nigerians! Don't be too quick to cast your stones. Some hidden truths are known only through revelation. Take it or leave it.

It's normal ponder on this, as it isn't written where David's mum was a "harlot", but this is coming from a man of revelations. Some truths are revealed to those whom God trusts. It's left for the receiver to tell the world or not.


#Mytake
You got it wrong. Any reveled truth contrary to the written word of God is not from God.
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by dayowunmi(m): 9:54am On Apr 25, 2017
It is a popularly held notion that there's a high chance David's mother was a harlot. Surprised you people are just hearing this. In the culture of the Israelites the elders tend the fathers flock while the younger stay stay at home with their parents as was the case with Joseph and Benjamin in the book of Genesis. In the case of David all his brothers were usually at home and only him will go and tend the father's cattle. Note that, it took Samuel to ask Jesse if it was all his sons that were at home before they even remembered David. When David went to the war front to take food to his brothers, they were angry at seeing him and throughout the texts written about David and his family, you notice he was sort of an outcast and alone. Even when he became king, i don't think there was any mention of his family and their relationship with him. That is why some Bible scholars hold the view that his mother was likely not legitimately married.
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by mapet: 9:54am On Apr 25, 2017
wellmax:
Behold, I was shapen in iniquity, etc. We are not to suppose that David here reflects upon his parents as the medium of transmitting to him the elements of moral evil; and that by the introduction of the doctrine of original sin he intended to extenuate the enormity of his own crimes. On the contrary, we are to regard him as afflicting himself by the humbling consideration that his very nature was fallen, that his transgressions flowed from a heart naturally at enmity with God; that he was not a sinner by accident, but by a depravity of purpose extending to the innermost desires and purposes of the soul; and that there was "a law in his members, warring against the law of his mind, and bringing him into captivity to the law of sin and death" Romans 7:23

Bros,

Matthew Henry's commentary is rich and exhaustive......

It "richly" explains passages in the scripture. Many today's pastors (so-called) are simply lazy to research, they just jump on podiums and desecrate the scriptures

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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by dragonking3: 9:55am On Apr 25, 2017
holyokoto:



Thats how dumb n**gga like U become gullible, He is now having revelation of what has been documented 2500 years ago. Do you know the Bible Canon at all? Christianity is trash, I regretted ever been born into this trash and I will forever cause who ever form this religion
Why don't you do your research instead of coming to type bullshit. BTW apostle suleman is right.

https://opentheword.org/2013/08/09/king-davids-big-dark-secret/
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by femi4: 9:55am On Apr 25, 2017
Joagbaje:


Luke 18:38
And he cried out, “Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!”


Was Jesus son of David
lol.....that was not taking literary.
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by saintneo(m): 9:56am On Apr 25, 2017
there was no mention of harlot in the video.


David was conceived outside wedlock - simple.

me too I have always pondered psalm 51. why was David alone despite having elder brothers? why were is brothers always antagonising him?


God uses the rejected most often.

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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by Onedibe1: 9:56am On Apr 25, 2017
Sorry,is the David i know??dis man sef,beginning to loose it all...
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by dragonking3: 9:56am On Apr 25, 2017
tobidipity:
Some gullible fools will still come up to defend him
You are the one who is actually foolish because he is right. Google is your friend and ur brain is meant for use.

https://opentheword.org/2013/08/09/king-davids-big-dark-secret/
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by EmekaBlue(m): 9:56am On Apr 25, 2017
and u r oko.ashawo
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by Sanchez01: 9:57am On Apr 25, 2017
The mother of David was Nitzevet, from the tribe of Judah,and from the lineage of the kings of Judah. David had two half-sisters (1 Chron. 2:13-16), and their father was not Jesse but Nahash (2 Sam. 17:25, 2 Sam. 10:2) who was an Ammonite king (1 Sam. 11:1; 1 Sam. 12:12). David’s mother might have been a second wife of Jesse. Perhaps the first wife of Jesse was considered superior to his second wife, because this would explain why David’s half brothers viewed themselves as superior to David and why David was not called before Samuel among the other sons – as he was possibly viewed as an illegitimate child (1 Sam. 16:11).

We can speculate further that perhaps David’s mother was not married to Jesse when she became pregnant, or maybe she was still the concubine of, or married to Nahash when she conceived David. Moreover, we can’t rule out that it might be as per this story, reminding us about Jacob and Leah + her sister Rachel. If this story is applicable, then Jesse is indeed David’s father without even knowing it due to a sneaky plan carried out by his wife, and David’s brothers would regard him as an illegitimate and hated son of their mother.

Psalm 69:8 I am become a stranger unto my brethren, and an alien unto my mother’s children.— 19 Thou hast known my reproach, and my shame, and my dishonour: mine adversaries are all before thee.—21 They gave me also gall for my meat; and in my thirst they gave me vinegar to drink.22 Let their table become a snare before them: and that which should have been for their welfare, let it become a trap.

Suleiman just didn't understand the mystery before coming out. Nitzevet was never a harlot.

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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by Tallesty1(m): 9:57am On Apr 25, 2017
wellmax:
On this, Apostle Sulieman is wrong
Bible says All Have Sinned

And in sin did my mother conceive me. He goes back to the earliest moment of his being, not to traduce his mother, but to acknowledge the deep tap roots of his sin. It is a wicked wresting of Scripture to deny that original sin and natural depravity are here taught.
A lot of things don't add up in David's story so I won't rush to say apostle was wrong.


"in sin my mother conceived me” means his mother committed adultery and David was the byproduct of this infidelity

My opinion.

Why was David excluded from the meeting with Samuel?

Why wasn't his mother's name mentioned in the Bible?

These are questions we need to ask.

Let's read a documented story of one born through prostitution, it help us understand why I concur with the apostle.


11 Jephthah the Gileadite was a mighty warrior. His father was Gilead; his mother was a prostitute. 2
Gilead’s wife also bore him sons, and when they were grown up, they drove Jephthah away. “You are not going to get any inheritance in our family,” they said, “because you are the son of anot

her woman.” (Judges 11:1-2)

Though he grew up in his father's house but his half brothers drove him away at a point.

This sheds light on why David wasn't called when Samuel came and why his mother's name was not mentioned anywhere in the Bible.

“I have become estranged from my brothers, And an alien to my mother’s sons.”Psalm 69:8.

This another cryptic message from David. It revealed that David was ostracized from his own family and was considered an alien or an outcast by his brothers.
And it seems he shared the same mother with some people but not same father.

Psalm 69 from verse 3 also also shed light on what he endured while growing up. Because of his mother's sin, David's childhood was full of loneliness and rejection. In verse 3, he speaks of hours spent crying because of the rejection (v 3). He explains his frustration of being punished for a sin he did not commit (v 4) his mother's sin. Worse, he became the object of mockery as the drunkards sang about his plight (v 26).

Noticed the emphasis on his mother's sin?

He kept talking about it.

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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by Joagbaje(m): 9:57am On Apr 25, 2017
Idango:

Salmon married the harlot and gave birth to Boaz, Boaz gave birth to Obed, obed gave birth to Jesse, Jesse gave birth to David.

Thanks . The point of the apostle was on how God can bring beauty out of a man's life no matter your background . If you come to God he will change you. He only use David grandmother Rahab who was a harlot as illustration

James 2:25
Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by dragonking3: 9:58am On Apr 25, 2017
Onedibe1:
Sorry,is the David i know??dis man sef,beginning to loose it all...
After you saw this topic did ur brain bother to tell you to make findings to ascertain if apostle suleman was right? I guess not. Dumb Nigerians will prefer to ramble on about something they don't have knowledge of.

https://opentheword.org/2013/08/09/king-davids-big-dark-secret/

Google is your friend
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by AngelicBeing: 9:59am On Apr 25, 2017
Joagbaje:
Apostle was not wrong Rahab the harlot who saved the spies was the great grand mother of David . She Gave birth to Boaz ,boaz gave birth to salmon ,salmon gave birth to David father jessee. And I sure the apostle didn't say it to put David down but rather to glorify God that it doesn't matter your background God can change your story
l agree cool
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by ipreach: 9:59am On Apr 25, 2017
my man is receiving much needed attention and advertisement in this 2017
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by mapet: 9:59am On Apr 25, 2017
Jaideyone:
smh we Christians are the only group that can islamise Nigeria. too many conflicting doctrines and beliefs.

You may be right with the bolded......the laziness to many so called christians who attend church services but never open the bible is the bane.
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by DanseMacabre(m): 9:59am On Apr 25, 2017
Make una free dis guy na. Didn't watch the video but I'm sure he was referring to Rahab.
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by dragonking3: 10:00am On Apr 25, 2017
Jaideyone:
he's right? pls show me where it was stated in the bible.
https://opentheword.org/2013/08/09/king-davids-big-dark-secret/

Google is your friend
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by Onedibe1: 10:00am On Apr 25, 2017
dragonking3:
After you saw this topic did ur brain bother to tell you to make findings to ascertain if apostle suleman was right? I guess not. Dumb Nigerians will prefer to ramble on about something they don't have knowledge of.

https://opentheword.org/2013/08/09/king-davids-big-dark-secret/

Google is your friend
I refuse to notice you.
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by felixomor: 10:01am On Apr 25, 2017
Funny enough the man didnt mention "Harlot" in the video

But trust the gullible Nigerian youths on social media.
Mscheww
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by slyd90(m): 10:02am On Apr 25, 2017
Jacksonville:
Nigerians! Don't be too quick to cast your stones. Some hidden truths are known only through revelation. Take it or leave it.

It's normal ponder on this, as it isn't written where David's mum was a "harlot", but this is coming from a man of revelations. Some truths are revealed to those whom God trusts. It's left for the receiver to tell the world or not.


#Mytake

SHEY THIS ONE NA HUMAN BEING.
..mtscheeww
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by Sanchez01: 10:03am On Apr 25, 2017
Jaideyone:
smh we Christians are the only group that can islamise Nigeria. too many conflicting doctrines and beliefs.
There is no conflict here, just a minor problem associated lack of understanding.
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by dragonking3: 10:03am On Apr 25, 2017
newmedia01:
people are very fast to criticize ... allowing Muslims to make a mockery of Christianity... Most of you saying trash don't even read your Bible.. The biggest lie says the deep secret are revealed to the sons of God, this Revelation knowledge, not sense knowledge.. The Bible also warns against speaking evil against any man of God. you did not send him. allow the person that sent him to judge him,if he is wrong...
I tell you. Most NL Christians are actually dumb and quick to criticize without making their findings. Apostle suleman is right but look at how so called Christians have behaved which shows they don't know what the Bible entails. Nigerian Christians don't research more on Christianity

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