KingEbukasBlog:


What is an entity ? What is a single entity?

dalaman:


It gets it totally wrong. For example it says that the earth and plants were already in existence before the sun and the starts were created among other nonsense.

akintom:

What an empty and panicky concocted piece. Some "aspect" of natural world?

We speak of what was, before what we now know. We speak of premises that we can take beyond hypothesis.

"God of the gap" isn't an argument, but mere description of the inherent foolishness, of creationists thinking.

dalaman:


At least your God described how he created the universe in the bible and his role in it. It fails completely.

malvisguy212:
you don't know how the universe was created, but it cannot be God ? the atheist faith is more stronger than the religious folks.

malvisguy212:
reading at your post show you are not an atheist, you believe God exist but YET you attack Christians with all you've got .people are ready to believe in anything so all long as it is not the God of the bible.

malvisguy212:
reading at your post show you are not an atheist, you believe God exist but YET you attack Christians with all you've got .people are ready to believe in anything so all long as it is not the God of the bible.

sonofthunder:

I think you are too quick to jump into conclusions...
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In the beginning God (prepared, formed, fashioned, and) created the heavens and the earth.(A)
2The earth was without form and an empty waste, and darkness was upon the face of the very great deep. The Spirit of God was moving (hovering, brooding) over the face of the waters.

3And God said, Let there be light; and there was light.

4And God saw that the light was good (suitable, pleasant) and He approved it; and God separated the light from the darkness.(B)
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I don't see the creation of plants b4 verses 3/4 ..

dalaman:


On which day of creation were the sun, moon and stars created?

malvisguy212:
you don't know how the universe was created, but it cannot be God ? the atheist faith is more stronger than the religious folks.

dalaman:


At least your God described how he created the universe in the bible and his role in it. It fails completely.

God created just a single planet in the universe according to Genesis 1 : 1.

Better still, if the christian still claim that God created all the planets In the universe then that proves that God does not have a master plan and purpose for creating those planets.

Why will earth be the only planet that supports life when other planets don't. That clearly shows that the universe was not intelligently made because there is no intelligent designer that will choose to dilapidate resources by making impractical designs and models.

It's like a man having nine (9) universities and only choose to proffer admission or probably admits students in only one institution, leaving the other 8 desolated.

Then what is the purpose of building the other eight ( institutions in the first place
That's purposeless as useful and vast enormous resources can't be entrusted into the hands of such a man.

God (Yahweh) is like the aloft man whom the Christians claim the responsibility of the universe birth for. He created billions of planets and decided to inearth folly creatures on the planet earth alone. God spend 24 hours focusing and diverting all attentions to earth (an attention that should otherwise be dispense to the billions of planets he created), directing our fate and out of negligence unintelligently jeopardizing other planets.

I believe in accidental cause and not even intelligent cause on the origin of the universe.

Accidental cause accidentally simulates intelligent laws, that govern the behaviour of the intelligent part of nature and the universe. The Big Bang itself must have betides and detonated as a result of an accidental explosion and must have been caused by an accidental cause. What an erratic and extemporaneous chance and happenstance for the universe birth.

A claim that there is an intelligent designer is a consummation of the Christian cursory panorama on life issues and the observable universe. This is because we are living in a dangerous and uncaring universe that harbor good and bad. The notion of crummy circumstances shouldn't have been the architectural handiwork and invention of any intelligent designer.

Such idealism shouldn't have been in the framework of God's introspective peculiarity and aptitude.

sonofthunder:

fixed... That would be difficult to put a permanent conclusive note on given the info we have. But we know that the first thing created (without giving reference to Genesis 1:1; which is even wrong) is light. Don't you think the firmament/whatever-was-above had to give way for us to know what type of light?
there's no conclusive evidence that God was just creating said lights but points more that God was giving whatever light 'jurisdiction' to operate, to express their glory to his creations and in that accomplishing their purpose.

HCpaul:


God created just a single planet in the universe according to Genesis 1 : 1.

Better still, if the christian still claim that God created all the planets In the universe then that proves that God does not have a master plan and purpose for creating those planets.

Why will earth be the only planet that supports life when other planets don't. That clearly shows that the universe was not intelligently made because there is no intelligent designer that will choose to make waste resources by making impractical designs and models.

It's like a man having 9 universities and only choose to offer admission or probably admits students in only one institution, leaving the other 8 aside.

Then what is the purpose of building the other 8 institutions in the first place
That's purposeless and useful and vast enormous resources can't be entrusted into the hands of such a man.

God (Yahweh) is like the above man whom the Christians claim the responsibility of the universe birth for. He created billions of planets and decided to inearth folly creatures on the planet earth alone. God spend 24 hours focusing and diverting all attentions to earth, directing our fate and out of negligence unintelligently jeopardizing other planets.

I believe in accidental cause and not even intelligent cause on the origin of the universe.

Accidental cause accidentally simulates intelligent laws, that govern the behaviour of nature and the universe. The Big Bang itself must have betides and detonated as a result of an accidental explosion and must have been caused by an accidental cause. What an erratic and extemporaneous chance and happenstance for the universe birth.

A claim that there is an intelligent designer is a consummation of the Christian cursory panorama on life issues and the observable universe. This is because we are living in a dangerous and uncaring universe that harbor good and bad. The notion of crummy circumstances shouldn't have been the architectural handiwork and invention of any intelligent designer.

dalaman:


What are you saying? Firmement had to give way for who to see what? Does it tell.you that there were human beings at that time? So which way was this elusive and mythical firmament giving for whom to see clearly? Who were the people observing the sun and stars? Can you name them from the bible?

The bible clearly said that the sun moon and starts were created on the 5th day of creationand you are here spinning it and trying to explain absurdity away. What is a firmament by the way? The bible says the sun, moon and stars are placed in the firmament to give light to the earth and sepertes day and night. What kind of nonsense is this? Are the sun moon and stars placed in any firmament?

It's very clear that the ancients that wrote this know nothing about the stars.

They even attempt to explain how vegetations were formed. They said created the vegetation in a day. The erths vegetation cane about over millions of years and is still evolving.

sonofthunder:

like I said earlier you jump quickly into conclusions, it appears you are very close minded.
The writer wrote as he was shown and the narrative points to an earth point of view.
Regarding the firmaments or no firmaments, have you taken out time to study other planets or ancient earth through books, documentaries? then you wouldn't be jumping into conclusions with out objectively analysing what you have. Besides you don't even have anything to weight it against (according to you).

dalaman:


We know the history of how the writing came about but that's beside the point.

The writer was shown what? The writer was shown how God was speaking light into existence? Or how he made the vegetations? He was shown how God placed the starts in the firmament or what exactly?

What is a firmament and how are the stars , moon and sun placed inside this elusive firmament?

urheme:


Faith based atheism ...what is that ....
faith is evidence of thing not seen or perceived.

please define "atheist faith"

hahn:

Which university?

malvisguy212:
do atheists believe heaven and hell exist ? no, has any atheist been dead before ,who came back to life and claim there is no afterlife ? no, but still atheist believe there is no afterlife. this is giant leap of faith . I admirer this faith. why will you jeopardise your eternity on this ?

malvisguy212:
do atheists believe heaven and hell exist ? no, has any atheist been dead before ,who came back to life and claim there is no afterlife ? no, but still atheist believe there is no afterlife. this is giant leap of faith . I admirer this faith. why will you jeopardise your eternity on this ?

hopefulLandlord:


I'm sorry but you're making a sum total of 0 (zero) sense

afterlife is a very foggy topic, there are endless claims of what afterlife is in various religions and each has next to no proof of it

the reason I said you're making zero sense is that your post implies the existence of afterlife automatically would mean the existence of Christian hell and heaven; why not the Hindu afterlife? why not the Muslim afterlife where you'll burn forever for your insults and attacks on Mohammed? why not an afterlife where atheists inherit heaven and theists go to hell?

on what basis did you think afterlife and Christian afterlife are automatically mutually inclusive?

we don't know anything about afterlife and wishing something is true doesn't make it true no matter the strength of your wish

dalaman:


Joepardize which eternity? The promise of an afterlife for the believers is just a feel good give away to make them feel special, in reality it is nothing but a scam.

The point of eternal punishment is so the gullible can feel superior. Heaven wouldn't be special if people who did NOT accept Jesus into their heart also got to live in a paradise for eternity. It only makes the believer to feel special and nothing more.

If you turn down the offer of the believer and refuse to accept his stories, the bueliever can feel smug in believing that you'll be punished for turning him down.

That's why believers treat those that do not accept their mythologies like idiots, to buff themselves up. If they were as empathic as their advertising would suggest, they'd feel sad about your choice, not superior.

malvisguy212:
if it only the christian religion the claim of afterlife is made then there must be something wrong somewhere. but no, many religion claim there is afterlife, and all claim seems to imply the same punishment of hell. I have not been dead before so I cannot toy with my eternity. after all , if there is no afterlife , I have nothing to worry about. but you, Mr atheist, believe there is no afterlife is one strong faith I admire, indeed ,you are very strong.

hopefulLandlord:


you're still not making sense bro

you actually have a lot to worry about even if there's afterlife, what if the Muslim afterlife is the true one? you're automatically going to hell owing to your endless attacks on Mohammed and Islam

if Hindu afterlife is the one that exists, then you're just in the same shoe as atheists or you can explain why you're in better position than us in this instance

if its the Odin afterlife that exists then you're in the same shoe as us because you'll most likely not die in battle so you won't cross the rainbow to the Odin heaven

and there are numerous more claims of what afterlife is like

see? implying that you choosing Christianity makes you automatically qualified for the best in afterlife if it exists is purely ignorant and borders on the asinine

malvisguy212:
have you search which of this religion is the truth ?

sonofthunder:

I think you are too quick to jump into conclusions...
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In the beginning God (prepared, formed, fashioned, and) created the heavens and the earth.(A)
2The earth was without form and an empty waste, and darkness was upon the face of the very great deep. The Spirit of God was moving (hovering, brooding) over the face of the waters.

3And God said, Let there be light; and there was light.

4And God saw that the light was good (suitable, pleasant) and He approved it; and God separated the light from the darkness.(B)
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I don't see the creation of plants b4 verses 3/4 ...

hopefulLandlord:


have you?

malvisguy212:
I thought you are the one who bring the issue of other religions here ? then I ask , have you search which one is the truth ?

hopefulLandlord:


I brought it here cuz I'm of the opinion that all are manmade

but it appears you have searched and found overwhelming evidence of Christianity being true and others being false, so present them...... get it?

malvisguy212:
if the promise of eternal life make me feel special , then I will thank you for the compliment.

malvisguy212:
do you want me to feed you ? are you a kid ?