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Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by Beaf: 1:40am On Jan 07, 2010
There is a very strong argument for the creation of a politics subsection dedicated to development.
All we ever do in the politics section is debate in reaction to events, whereas the country is begging for development and NL offers a perfect place to rub minds, plan and act. However, owing to the technical inputs that might be required, such topics as might be raised might not be palatable to the average NLer, resulting in very important issues getting swallowed up by more "popular" "tribalist" ones; take this one for example https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-374289.0.html

It is admitted that a development section might not be as popular or entertaining as other areas, but it would be frequented by practical minds and those genuinely interested in pushing our technical development forward.
The ideas and actions that would emanate from the suggested subsection would be a true gift to both the nation and NLers.

Please give thought to an area that would naturally be ethnically agnostic, positive, packed with thought provoking ideas / positions and refreshing. It is long overdue.
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by beejaei: 2:37am On Jan 07, 2010
Beaf,

I agree with you. When I first came to nairaland, I thought I will find discussions among people with "a little insight and perspective into serious issues," but I was disappointed. Almost every thread degenarates into sex-talk, name-calling, insults, and jingoistic rantings. Therefore, people that really want to feed their mind and contribute positively in an intellectual manner to the issues that face Nigeria are always left on the sidelines, or find themselves joining the fray. I hope we can get more people to support so that Seun and Kosovo will favorably consider your request.
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by Beaf: 10:21am On Jan 07, 2010
beejaei:

Beaf,

I agree with you. When I first came to nairaland, I thought I will find discussions among people with "a little insight and perspective into serious issues," but I was disappointed. Almost every thread degenarates into sex-talk, name-calling, insults, and jingoistic rantings. Therefore, people that really want to feed their mind and contribute positively in an intellectual manner to the issues that face Nigeria are always left on the sidelines, or find themselves joining the fray. I hope we can get more people to support so that Seun and Kosovo will favorably consider your request.

Exactly!
You will find that the Foreign Affairs section does not sink to the lows the main politics section does, for the simple reason (in my opinion) that its users are more specialised than the general user and "tribal" politics is just not going to cut it amongst topics on Iran, the US and other foreign lands.

While a new section will be about Nigerian projects, Nigerian comments etc they will be more about development, on practical things we can do to build our communities, on how individuals can gain confidence and help to be of positive benefit to both themselves and their communities. "Tribal" posturing will not cut it in a section defined in the above way.
I can bet that there are thousands of Nigerians who are expert beyond average in their respective fields, millions who are practical and would be quick to implement ideas that would benefit themselves.

I really hope that more people would support this.
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by ProAnti: 11:28am On Jan 07, 2010
I am with Beaf on this.

We need to chart a new course of development on Nairaland. Nairaland's politics section should not only be a place where political events are analysed, It should be a place where great minds come together to create and develop a political philosophy that would endear the rest of the online world to it.
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by AjanleKoko: 12:09pm On Jan 07, 2010
I'll vote for this as well.
I would rather contribute to a Development section, rather than debate political and tribal issues.
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by ezeagu(m): 4:32pm On Jan 07, 2010
It shouldn't even be made a sub-section, this is the biggest thing that should be on Nigeria's plate and should be given a separate section. It would be helpful if you add a poll to see how many people support, or do not support the creation to of the section. Plus development is not always under politics.
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by kosovo(m): 4:50pm On Jan 07, 2010
@Beaf,
I have not communicated your request to the Admin, in the main time, i am thinking it through.

@zeagu
It shouldn't even be made a sub-section, this is the biggest thing that should be on Nigeria's plate and should be given a separate section.
Do you think so?
I will be reading the comments closely provided it doesn't get swept by other Threads,
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by Gekko(m): 6:42pm On Jan 07, 2010
kosovo:

@Beaf,
I have not communicated your request to the Admin, in the main time, i am thinking it through.

@zeagu   Do you think so?
I will be reading the comments closely provided it doesn't get swept by other Threads,


We most absolutely need a portal where ideas can be shared and eventually materialize to the benefit of Nigeria.
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by Lagosboy: 6:48pm On Jan 07, 2010
I support this move with my whole heart, let the bright minds of Nigeria discuss serious issue above the ethno-religious bias of intellectually challenged people of this section.

@Beaf i quite agree with you on the Foreign affairs section it is a lot better than the politics section except for very few people.
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by Beaf: 10:10pm On Jan 07, 2010
kosovo:

@Beaf,
I have not communicated your request to the Admin, in the main time, i am thinking it through.

@zeagu Do you think so?
I will be reading the comments closely provided it doesn't get swept by other Threads,

It seems to be turning quite popular. Please give it serious thought, we want to be able to use the most popular gathering of Nigerians to move forward practically and developmentally.

ezeagu:

It shouldn't even be made a sub-section, this is the biggest thing that should be on Nigeria's plate and should be given a separate section. It would be helpful if you add a poll to see how many people support, or do not support the creation to of the section. Plus development is not always under politics.

Nice one!
Unfortunately, I can't see any poll button. Is there a special way to do this?

@Lagosboy
I know what you mean, I got my NL baptism of fire in the foreign affairs section. grin
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by ezeagu(m): 10:44pm On Jan 07, 2010
kosovo:

@zeagu Do you think so?

Other countries have millions of websites dedicated to the biggest issues facing their country, why would a Nigerian forum put a major section consisting most of the countries problems and then put it in a secondary position under Becomrich's playground.

A Development of Nigeria section would not only free up the politics section, but will also separate the productive people from the counter productive. Right now the politics section is just where all the news stories are posted for peoples response there are people who actually have ideas, but their threads, such as this one, are nudged into oblivion by a 'hot new story'. Plus a aspect of development like architecture has nothing to do with politics.
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by PapaBrowne(m): 10:56pm On Jan 07, 2010
I am in total support of this. The development section would give opportunities for the many available intelligent minds here on Nairaland to express their ideas freely and have such ideas critiqued by like minds.

I support this big time!!! [size=14pt]Please Seun, ACT!![/size]

Beaf! I salute you for this one. You're always the first with the best thoughts!!
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by SapeleGuy: 11:01pm On Jan 07, 2010
kosovo:

@Beaf,
I have not communicated your request to the Admin, in the main time, i am thinking it through.


Kosovo, don't think too long. This is a very good idea.
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by Katsumoto: 11:01pm On Jan 07, 2010
I support your idea; I also think it should take the place of the tribalism section. Since the section would be focusing on issues that would promote development and progress in our land, we should do away with sections that are incendiary and contribute to weakening our fragile co-existence.

I take it the section you are suggesting relates to Nigerian development. If you mean for individual development to be included, wouldn't that be part of the business/money/finance/job sections?
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by ezeagu(m): 11:15pm On Jan 07, 2010
Katsumoto:

I support your idea; I also think it should take the place of the tribalism section.

The Tribalism section should stay, otherwise the Politics section will suffer.

Katsumoto:

I take it the section you are suggesting relates to Nigerian development. If you mean for individual development to be included, wouldn't that be part of the business/money/finance/job sections?

If you put it under there nobody will find it, plus there are other parts to development that don't come under business.
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by PapaBrowne(m): 11:19pm On Jan 07, 2010
Katsumoto:

I support your idea; I also think it should take the place of the tribalism section. Since the section would be focusing on issues that would promote development and progress in our land, we should do away with sections that are incendiary and contribute to weakening our fragile co-existence.

I take it the section you are suggesting relates to Nigerian development. If you mean for individual development to be included, wouldn't that be part of the business/money/finance/job sections?

I think he refers to Nigerian development. I envisage Issues on development in Economics, Science and technology, infrastructure, Agriculture, Real estate, healthcare, education and many other sectors  making excellent topics.
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by Kaiser5000: 11:20pm On Jan 07, 2010
Great idea!
It's about time. Like you said we have Nigerian experts all over the world with a variety of skills that we can pull together to come up with practical ideas to help our country. Enough of these discusions that degenerate to name calling and tribal warfare.
I will be looking forward to that section.
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by Katsumoto: 11:25pm On Jan 07, 2010
PapaBrowne:

I think he refers to Nigerian development. I envisage Issues on development in Economics, Science and technology, infrastructure, Agriculture, Real estate, healthcare, education and many other sectors  making excellent topics.

Thats what I thought but just needed clarification. The purpose should be clear or the section can easily become a haven for people seeking business ideas or funds.
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by Katsumoto: 11:30pm On Jan 07, 2010
ezeagu:

The Tribalism section should stay, otherwise the Politics section will suffer.

If you put it under there nobody will find it, plus there are other parts to development that don't come under business.

How can posters be positive in one section and then be negative in another section? Whether we are willing to admit it or not, the tribalism section encourages tribal battles. Well I leave it to the judgement of others.

Also, are you suggesting that individual development be a part of this section? If so, it could easily lose focus. I think Beaf intends for this to be a section discussing developmental issues for Nigeria.
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by Beaf: 11:50pm On Jan 07, 2010
Katsumoto:

How can posters be positive in one section and then be negative in another section? Whether we are willing to admit it or not, the tribalism section encourages tribal battles. Well I leave it to the judgement of others.

Also, are you suggesting that individual development be a part of this section? If so, it could easily lose focus. I think Beaf intends for this to be a section discussing developmental issues for Nigeria.

The bolded is correct (PapaBrowne hits it quite neatly below).

PapaBrowne:

I think he refers to Nigerian development. I envisage Issues on development in Economics, Science and technology, infrastructure, Agriculture, Real estate, healthcare, education and many other sectors making excellent topics.

Katsumoto:

Thats what I thought but just needed clarification. The purpose should be clear or the section can easily become a haven for people seeking business ideas or funds.

I don't think we should be too bothered about people seeking ideas, funding or funding advice, development is primarily driven by business interests in a capitalist setting. It will be impossible to avoid that, it might even be unnatural to attempt to.

@PapaBrowne Thanks for the kind words earlier.
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by debosky(m): 11:54pm On Jan 07, 2010
I support this idea as well - it's high time we had some useful conversations apart from the usual rants and political hopelessness we read.
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by real4life: 12:01am On Jan 08, 2010
Good idea, supported.

But like someone has suggested, it does not have to be a sub-section, it should be a full section and if I may add, with a strong moderator
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by TippyTop(m): 12:29am On Jan 08, 2010
This is a genius idea and I totally support it.
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by blacksta(m): 12:45am On Jan 08, 2010
I hereby support this motion and hope it is not submerged by tribal bashing
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by salihuali1(m): 10:18am On Jan 11, 2010
Seconded. Objective posts based on facts and focused. No wailing (sorry, to all the Bob Marley fans) but with a view to proffering solutions
Very welcome.
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by sholasys: 12:04pm On Jan 11, 2010
I like this idea. I think the admin should first focus on how to control the forum or what measure are they putting in place to control the language, content and acess.
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by PapaBrowne(m): 6:30pm On Mar 30, 2010
So this thread died without fulfilling its purpose.



Please naaa, we need a Development Section. I'm tired of all the tribalistic discussions on the politics section. They are just intellectually sapping. You read thru them and your IQ goes some good points down immediately after.

I am on my knees begging our Nairaland ogas. Please naa give us this section. Afterall we have sections for Tribalism and Racism.
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by violent(m): 6:44pm On Mar 30, 2010
let's continue to bump this thread until someone answers!
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by PapaBrowne(m): 6:48pm On Mar 30, 2010
violent:

let's continue to bump this thread until someone answers!
Yeap. I support.
I will bump this thread until I get banned!
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by Nobody: 6:54pm On Mar 30, 2010
So this thread was resuscitated because of aishat appointment.hmm na wa o
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by SapeleGuy: 7:09pm On Mar 30, 2010
^^^Truth be told Nairaland needs something like this just to prove that Nigerians can in fact offer more than religious and ethnic bigotry or in the case of some people cyber sychopancy.
Re: Seun And Kosovo - Request For A Development Subsection by kosovo(m): 8:25pm On Mar 30, 2010
I thought the decision reached on this issue had already been communicated.
As the moment of typing, the Decision reached by the supreme commander of Nairaland remain Valid, Pending re-consideration which is not likely. But i may be wrong wink

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