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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by achorladey: 3:39pm On Jun 23, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


I did not ask you to quote a verse, I am simply asking you to confess Jesus as your Lord and Saviour in your own words and really mean it. Is that too difficult for you to do? undecided
Na crime, abi I don commit crime about am before wey I need to confess. I give you evidence, you still say make I confess. Later una go sey JWs no go school. Na you be papa confessor, abi mama confessor. Go look for dictionary make you find meaning of confess. Like your people talk, Johnw74 and professor emeritus Hairyrapunzel, JWs no dey go school, dem be dropouts. Ask am he get evidence, he go tell you. I still dey wait for the answer to my question ooooo.

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:09pm On Jun 23, 2017
achorladey:


Na crime, abi I don commit crime about am before wey I need to confess. I give you evidence, you still say make I confess. Later una go sey JWs no go school. Na you be papa confessor, abi mama confessor. Go look for dictionary make you find meaning of confess. Like your people talk, Johnw74 and professor emeritus Hairyrapunzel, JWs no dey go school, dem be dropouts. Ask am he get evidence, he go tell you. I still dey wait for the answer to my question ooooo.

This one pass crime. To be a sinner is more dangerous than being a criminal. See it for yourself in the Scriptures, no be me talk am.

"That if you shall confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and shall believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved. For with the heart man believes to righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation" (Romans 10:9-10).

You can see from the Scriptures here that I am not saying anything strange. For you to be saved you have and must be able to confess "Jesus as Lord." Verbal confession of Jesus as Lord is the prerequisite to being saved after receiving His imputed righteousness by faith.

Jesus must be accepted as God and as Lord of your life and you must be able to confess that you will believe and obey His Word with no reservation, believing that Jesus rose bodily from the grave because only the Creator of life could defeat sin and death.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 4:10pm On Jun 23, 2017
achorladey:

I hate to type this but I must admit your mental strength and level of reasoning leaves nothing to admire and this goes to Johnw74 as well. Keep to the line of discussion. The thread is not centred on the JWs elders and there level of qualifications or education or the governing body. You with higher level of education, it seems your qualification was given in ''learning'' and not in ''character'', because if it were to be in ''character'' you should know that courtesy demands you don't berate people anyhow, same people that lives and are in your working environment and you greet them by saying ''sir'' and ''ma''. Respect!! Respect!! Respect!!! Keep to the line of discussion. Perhaps, this method of berating the Jws it's one of the techniques OLAADEGBU is trying to emphasize in witnessing to a JWs according to the main theme of the thread. I tire for you oooo professor emeritus abi na wetin?

So telling the truth about your watchtower has turned to berating. Do your leaders support higher education? No
Do your leaders support reading the bible alone? No. You must read the bible with their magazines or magazine alone.
Are your leaders going to heaven? Yes according to them and their followers will inherit the earth. Your leaders did they go to university or college? No
So who is berating who
You call truth berating.

The bible says Jesus Christ is Lord and Saviour deal with it. Bible passages have been shown to you. You ask questions you have been programmed to ask by leaders. Read your bible alone and understand what it truly says
If you do you will know Jesus is Lord

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 4:21pm On Jun 23, 2017
achorladey:

Na crime, abi I don commit crime about am before wey I need to confess. I give you evidence, you still say make I confess. Later una go sey JWs no go school. Na you be papa confessor, abi mama confessor. Go look for dictionary make you find meaning of confess. Like your people talk, Johnw74 and professor emeritus Hairyrapunzel, JWs no dey go school, dem be dropouts. Ask am he get evidence, he go tell you. I still dey wait for the answer to my question ooooo.

As usual you wanna run away. You can't hide from the fact that you said the bible is lying. The bible said Jesus Christ is Lord and Saviour as Christians we have accepted Him as our personal and only Lord and Saviour and you have a problem with it even with bible verses to support it. But when watchtower organization tells you it is your saviour and mother without a single biblical verse to even support its claim you accept. Weh don sir.
Read your bible stop reading magazines.

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by uzuede4(f): 4:27pm On Jun 23, 2017
Ken4Christ:
JW members who have been indoctrinated are difficult to convert. They have been trained to ignore the truth and follow their deceptive teachings. The worst of their teachings is the denial of the existence of hell which is clearly revealed in the Bible. I wish they could see the doom that awaits them. Please, give your life to Jesus. He is the only way to God. Otherwise, you will face his wrath.

"For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?". (Revelation 6:17).
So you now claim doom that awaits Jehovah's Witnesses? Do you know the doom that awaits you?

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by uzuede4(f): 4:38pm On Jun 23, 2017
Op, please read John 14:28 where Jesus himself said that "his father is greater than he is". If Jesus and God is one and the same person, which father was he referring to?

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 4:42pm On Jun 23, 2017
achorladey:

I hate to type this but I must admit your mental strength and level of reasoning leaves nothing to admire and this goes to Johnw74 as well. Keep to the line of discussion. The thread is not centred on the JWs elders and there level of qualifications or education or the governing body. You with higher level of education, it seems your qualification was given in ''learning'' and not in ''character'', because if it were to be in ''character'' you should know that courtesy demands you don't berate people anyhow, same people that lives and are in your working environment and you greet them by saying ''sir'' and ''ma''. Respect!! Respect!! Respect!!! Keep to the line of discussion. Perhaps, this method of berating the Jws it's one of the techniques OLAADEGBU is trying to emphasize in witnessing to a JWs according to the main theme of the thread. I tire for you oooo professor emeritus abi na wetin?

Saying the truth is now berating jws? Does your organization support higher education? Do they support reading the bible alone or with their publications? Do your leaders have higher education degree? Are your governing body members not going to heaven and their followers inheriting earth?

Nobody is berating anybody we are saying the truth. You can't hide from the truth. Example saying Jesus is not our personal Lord and saviour because your watchtower told you it is a lie. You believe watchtower more than you believe the bible.

The bible says Jesus is Lord and Saviour and salvation comes from him alone accept Him as your Lord and Saviour and you will be saved
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 4:54pm On Jun 23, 2017
uzuede4:
Op, please read John 14:28 where Jesus himself said that "his father is greater than he is". If Jesus and God is one and the same person, which father was he referring to?

John 14:5-15 5 Thomas said to him, “Lord, we don’t know where you are going, so how can we know the way?”

6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know[b] my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”

8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”

9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves. 12 Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. 13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.

Read your bible and ask the holy spirit for guidance oh I forgot that the Holy Spirit can not come to you it is only for those 7 men in new York aka your governing body members
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:28pm On Jun 23, 2017
uzuede4:


Op, please read John 14:28 where Jesus himself said that "his father is greater than he is". If Jesus and God is one and the same person, which father was he referring to?

Biblically speaking, Jesus is equal with the Father in His divine nature (John 10:30). He was positionally lower than the Father from the standpoint of His becoming a servant by taking on human likeness (Philipians 2:6-11). Positionally, then, the Father was "greater" than Jesus.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by achorladey: 7:59pm On Jun 23, 2017
Hairyrapunzel:


Saying the truth is now berating jws? Does your organization support higher education? Do they support reading the bible alone or with their publications? Do your leaders have higher education degree? Are your governing body members not going to heaven and their followers inheriting earth?

Nobody is berating anybody we are saying the truth. You can't hide from the truth. Example saying Jesus is not our personal Lord and saviour because your watchtower told you it is a lie. You believe watchtower more than you believe the bible.

The bible says Jesus is Lord and Saviour and salvation comes from him alone accept Him as your Lord and Saviour and you will be saved



You are raising questions for me to answer when you have the truth already. Sorry na your case. I hope you must have learnt your lessons in my last post. I don't drag issues with individuals that had chosen to berate individuals that the topic under deliberation do not revolve around with distorted information you are branding all about as ''truth''. Keep the truth to yourself and merry with it. I won't go beyond that. If you cannot supply the answer to the questions asked, Oga na u carry yourself come thread, waka jejely comot. I have my scale for grading your comprehension skills. You don't seem to have improved on that since our last discussion. My recommendation are still on this platform, do well to work on them.

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by achorladey: 8:14pm On Jun 23, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


This one pass crime. To be a sinner is more dangerous than being a criminal. See it for yourself in the Scriptures, no be me talk am.

"That if you shall confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and shall believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved. For with the heart man believes to righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation" (Romans 10:9-10).

You can see from the Scriptures here that I am not saying anything strange. For you to be saved you have and must be able to confess "Jesus as Lord." Verbal confession of Jesus as Lord is the prerequisite to being saved after receiving His imputed righteousness by faith.

Jesus must be accepted as God and as Lord of your life and you must be able to confess that you will believe and obey His Word with no reservation, believing that Jesus rose bodily from the grave because only the Creator of life could defeat sin and death.
Oga when typing, proof read, to be a criminal is less dangerous than being a sinner. Ayam not understanding. I see why the world is what it is with this kind of teaching. A vivid proof why individuals hides behind the facade of religious bodies. Even the scriptures you cited did not point to why being a criminal is less dangerous than being a sinner. I insist I ayam not understanding. Hmmmmmm and this is part of the formula you intend to use in witnessing to a JW. You have my evidence on who I believe Jesus is, provide answer to just that one question I asked.

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by achorladey: 8:28pm On Jun 23, 2017
Hairyrapunzel:


As usual you wanna run away. You can't hide from the fact that you said the bible is lying. The bible said Jesus Christ is Lord and Saviour as Christians we have accepted Him as our personal and only Lord and Saviour and you have a problem with it even with bible verses to support it. But when watchtower organization tells you it is your saviour and mother without a single biblical verse to even support its claim you accept. Weh don sir.
Read your bible stop reading magazines.

That hits you hard. Learn to stay within the confines of the discussion. Answer the question, if you can't waka jejely comot. Professor wey no fit remain within the confines of the discussion na professor be that one? Or professor of biology(botanist) wey wan prove sey im be oga for laminar and turbulent flow for professor wey be engineer. I tire ooooooo. Oga na watchtower abi awake I cite on this thread?

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by achorladey: 8:37pm On Jun 23, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


You are still beating around the bush instead of going straight to the point. There is only One God, One Lord and One Faith.

"But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him" (1 Corinthians 8:6).

This is the testimony of the Scriptures that there is only one true God who created all things by His Son, our Lord Jesus Christ. Can you now truthfully, thoughtfully and meaningfully confess Jesus as your Lord and Saviour?
Now insert your personal Lord and Saviour tag into the verse you quote. Just maybe you can get an answer to my question? How many saviour do we have here? If you are finding it difficult you might to do research on the difference between the following words '' of whom are all things'' and '' by whom are all things''. Your professional colleague can help you with that as well.

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 8:52pm On Jun 23, 2017
achorladey:

I hope you must have learnt your lessons in my last post. I don't drag issues with individuals that had chosen to berate individuals that the topic under deliberation do not revolve around with distorted information you are branding all about. Keep the truth to yourself and merry with it. I won't go beyond that. If you cannot supply the answer to the questions asked, Oga na u carry yourself come thread, waka jejely comot. I have my scale for grading your comprehension skills. You don't seem to have improved on that since our last discussion.

Want to hide the fact that you don't believe the Bible? Or want to run away like you always do when they call you out nobody is berating you It is the truth about your organization. Your publications say those things. You believe a magazine but you don't believe the Bible. There is no explanation for your antichrist statement

Jesus Christ is the only lord and only savior if you have a problem with take it to Jesus Christ he will solve it

Once they call you out you start lying to cover up all your errors. When you say bad things about non Jws you don't look back. When someone is saying the truth about your organization you say persecution or being berated.

your 7 men in New York aka governing body members say they are going to heaven and their followers are going to inherit earth Your organization is against higher education. They don't allow reading the Bible alone and on your own you must read the Bible with a watchtower publication.

Jesus Christ is my personal lord and savior Because Jesus says so. You say Jesus Christ is not your personal lord and savior because 7 old men in New York aka governing body members say so. I follow Jesus you follow 7 men in New York.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 8:54pm On Jun 23, 2017
achorladey:

Now insert your personal Lord and Saviour tag into the verse you quote. Just maybe you can get an answer to my question? How many saviour do we have here? If you are finding it difficult you might to do research on the difference between the following words '' of whom are all things'' and '' by whom are all things''. Your professional colleague can help you with that as well.

Only one lord and one savior his name is Jesus Christ
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 9:01pm On Jun 23, 2017
achorladey:

That hits you hard. Learn to stay within the confines of the discussion. Answer the question, if you can't waka jejely comot. Professor wey no fit remain within the confines of the discussion na professor be that one? Or professor of biology(botanist) wey wan prove sey im be oga for laminar and turbulent flow for professor wey be engineer. I tire ooooooo. Oga na watchtower abi awake I cite on this thread?

You can't deal with the fact that people know the truth about your beliefs.
We don't follow 7 men in New York we follow Jesus Christ because he is our lord and savior
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by achorladey: 9:06pm On Jun 23, 2017
Hairyrapunzel:


You can't deal with the fact that people know the truth about your beliefs.
We don't follow 7 men in New York we follow Jesus Christ because he is our lord and savior
How this your latest post take join the topic of this thread. Waka comot jejely if you have nothing to say. You have chosen to follow Jesus, make I celebrate by frying pawpaw for you? O ke mo ti gbo pe o gba Jesu.

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by achorladey: 9:12pm On Jun 23, 2017
Hairyrapunzel:


Want to hide the fact that you don't believe the Bible? Or want to run away like you always do when they call you out nobody is berating you It is the truth about your organization. Your publications say those things. You believe a magazine but you don't believe the Bible. There is no explanation for your antichrist statement

Jesus Christ is the only lord and only savior if you have a problem with take it to Jesus Christ he will solve it

Once they call you out you start lying to cover up all your errors. When you say bad things about non Jws you don't look back. When someone is saying the truth about your organization you say persecution or being berated.

your 7 men in New York aka governing body members say they are going to heaven and their followers are going to inherit earth Your organization is against higher education. They don't allow reading the Bible alone and on your own you must read the Bible with a watchtower publication.

Jesus Christ is my personal lord and savior Because Jesus says so. You say Jesus Christ is not your personal lord and savior because 7 old men in New York aka governing body members say so. I follow Jesus you follow 7 men in New York.
Learn to stay within the confines of discussion. I see you as an humble and obedient sheep act like one. Don't chose to be stubborn, learn to stay within the confines of the discussion, if you can't do that don't bother to reply. You have the correct truth about the JWs hold on to it. Celebrate everyday about it. That counts for something as well. No be governing body palaver, watchtower or awake carry me come thread professor Hairyrapunzel. Professor ni a peyin nw. E pon ara yin le Oga.

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw74: 11:47pm On Jun 23, 2017
achorladey:

You could have called him ''mother''. I am not blind, I know the verse I cited has that already. Oga go back again find that question and find better answer for me.

Ha ha what a phony jw, your post was properly adressed and that's all you can come up with

still running away from the issue "Jesus Christ is Lord and Saviour",
you don't believe it, rejecting the Bible, and you cannot say it, Denying the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Mat_10:33  But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw74: 12:00am On Jun 24, 2017
achorladey:

Professor emeritus wey no understand question. I dey look how you​ go take answer the question. You think sey na by you go school dem dey take comprehend wetin dey inside Bible. Sorry na your case. Se o fe gbo, pupo ninu awon omoleyin Jesu ko lo si ile iwe, sibe sibe won loye bibeli ju awon elegbe won ti won gbajumo ninu iwe kika. This one no be omowe things. Ti nnkan ko ba ye o to, beere ibeere.


Don't be a coward,
post in English so as everyone can read and reply,
be a man.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw74: 12:33am On Jun 24, 2017
achorladey:

That hits you hard. Learn to stay within the confines of the discussion. Answer the question, if you can't waka jejely comot. Professor wey no fit remain within the confines of the discussion na professor be that one? Or professor of biology(botanist) wey wan prove sey im be oga for laminar and turbulent flow for professor wey be engineer. I tire ooooooo. Oga na watchtower abi awake I cite on this thread?

This one cannot answer anything,
the truth you cannot do.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by achorladey: 12:56am On Jun 24, 2017
johnw74:


Don't be a coward, post in English so as everyone can read and reply, be a man.
Free platform to express myself in any language.

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw74: 1:38am On Jun 24, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


Let me help you out. There is only One Lord and Saviour. Now answer me. Is Jesus your Lord and Saviour?

acholadey cannot say like God's word does, that Jesus is our Lord and Saviour:
2Pe_1:11  For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

acholadey cannot pray to Jesus as Stephen did, Stephen called upon "God - Lord Jesus"...:
Act 7:59  And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. 
Act 7:60  And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep. 

acholsdey cannot call Jesus, as Stephen did, "my Lord and my God":
Joh 20:28  And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God

Christians of God given faith though, can say all those things, just like God's inspired word say's them.

pharisee jw's don't believe God through His inspired word, but they believe their fallen angel inspired elders through their magazines.

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw74: 1:43am On Jun 24, 2017
achorladey:

Free platform to express myself in any language.


free platform is one excuse,
avoiding some others replying to you is another.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 10:23am On Jun 24, 2017
achorladey:

How this your latest post take join the topic of this thread. Waka comot jejely if you have nothing to say. You have chosen to follow Jesus, make I celebrate by frying pawpaw for you? O ke mo ti gbo pe o gba Jesu.

You want to come here and act like you are intelligent asking questions that have been formulated by your leaders that say they will go to heaven and their followers will inherit earth

The bible says Jesus Christ is the only Lord and only saviour ask the bible how many saviors and how many lords

Jesus Christ is the only Lord and Saviour. Jesus christ is God
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by achorladey: 1:25pm On Jun 24, 2017
johnw74:


acholadey cannot say like God's word does, that Jesus is our Lord and Saviour:
2Pe_1:11  For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

acholadey cannot pray to Jesus as Stephen did, Stephen called upon "God - Lord Jesus"...:
Act 7:59  And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. 
Act 7:60  And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep. 

acholsdey cannot call Jesus, as Stephen did, "my Lord and my God":
Joh 20:28  And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God

Christians of God given faith though, can say all those things, just like God's inspired word say's them.

pharisee jw's don't believe God through His inspired word, but they believe their fallen angel inspired elders through their magazines.



Yet they read our ''Lords prayer'' every day and cannot reason enough to know that even your personal Lord and Saviour asked or begged to be delivered from the wicked one. Even your personal Lord and Saviour has a personal Lord and Saviour of his own. #thinkthinkthink# I don't need millions of scriptural citations to prove facts. You only need to reason on the little you have, decipher it and pay attention to how you listen so you don't become dull in your listening skills and eventually become dumb.

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by achorladey: 1:33pm On Jun 24, 2017
Hairyrapunzel:


You want to come here and act like you are intelligent asking questions that have been formulated by your leaders that say they will go to heaven and their followers will inherit earth

The bible says Jesus Christ is the only Lord and only saviour ask the bible how many saviors and how many lords

Jesus Christ is the only Lord and Saviour. Jesus christ is God
I should go and ask the bible how many Lords and Saviours. I will surely do that.

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:05pm On Jun 24, 2017
achorladey:


I should go and ask the bible how many Lords and Saviours. I will surely do that.

Let me help you out. Here some pertinent questions and answers for you to ponder on as to the nature of our Lord Jesus Christ:

"You are my witnesses, says the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that you may know and believe  me, and understand that I am He: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after Me.  I, even I, am the LORD; and beside Me there is no saviour," (Isaiah 43:10,11).

Is God the Saviour of the world?

If you study this verse I quoted above objectively, you will discover the following:
 
There always has been and always will be only one true God.

There is no Saviour of the world except for this one true God.

Therefore, the Saviour of the world must be the one true God.

This leads to another question:

Is Jesus the Saviour of the world?

I do not think that anyone who has read the New Testament would dispute this.  Even your favourite version of the Bible refers to Jesus as the Saviour: "and of the Saviour of us, Christ Jesus" --Titus 2:13.

Therefore, since:

The one true God is the only Saviour of the world (Isaiah 43:10,11), and

Jesus is the Saviour of the world (Titus 2:13; 2 Peter 1:1),

Jesus must therefore be the one true God.

To deny that Jesus is the one true God, one would either have to deny that Jesus is the Saviour, or say that God is lying to us in Isaiah 43:11.  Neither alternative fits with Scripture.

Does Titus 2:13 teach that Jesus is God our Saviour?

In Titus 2:13 it states the following:

"Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify to Himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works."

Paul is here through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit stating clearly that it is Jesus who is our great God and Saviour unless you are disputing this fact.

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 6:40pm On Jun 24, 2017
achorladey:

Yet they read our ''Lords prayer'' every day and cannot reason enough to know that even your personal Lord and Saviour asked or begged to be delivered from the wicked one. Even your personal Lord and Saviour has a personal Lord and Saviour of his own. #thinkthinkthink# I don't need millions of scriptural citations to prove facts. You only need to reason on the little you have, decipher it and pay attention to how you listen so you don't become dull in your listening skills and eventually become dumb.

Read the whole matthew chapter 6 and understand how Jesus told his followers to pray. Jesus did not pray that prayer for himself rather he said his we should pray like that.

Read the bible and ask the holy spirit for guidance and understanding. It is unfortunate that 7 men in new York have told you that you can never get the gift of the Holy Spirit and that only they can have the Holy Spirit and you will get spiritual food only from them

Jesus is my personal Lord and Saviour. Jesus christ is God.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by achorladey: 8:39pm On Jun 24, 2017
Hairyrapunzel:


Read the whole matthew chapter 6 and understand how Jesus told his followers to pray. Jesus did not pray that prayer for himself rather he said his we should pray like that.

Read the bible and ask the holy spirit for guidance and understanding. It is unfortunate that 7 men in new York have told you that you can never get the gift of the Holy Spirit and that only they can have the Holy Spirit and you will get spiritual food only from them

Jesus is my personal Lord and Saviour. Jesus christ is God.
Did I hear you say ''we'' Jesus is not included in the ''we''. Continue!!!!!!! So all the prayers he prayed while on earth is for ''we'' Jesus out of the picture. I hear you.

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 8:59pm On Jun 24, 2017
achorladey:

Did I hear you say ''we'' Jesus is not included in the ''we''. Continue!!!!!!! So all the prayers he prayed while on earth is for ''we'' Jesus out of the picture. I hear you.


Matthew 6:5-15
5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

9 “This, then, is how you should pray:

“‘Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
10 your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
11 Give us today our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation,[a]
but deliver us from the evil one.[b]’
14 For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by achorladey: 8:59pm On Jun 24, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


Let me help you out. Here some pertinent questions and answers for you to ponder on as to the nature of our Lord Jesus Christ:

"You are my witnesses, says the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that you may know and believe  me, and understand that I am He: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after Me.  I, even I, am the LORD; and beside Me there is no saviour," (Isaiah 43:10,11).

Is God the Saviour of the world?

If you study this verse I quoted above objectively, you will discover the following:
 
There always has been and always will be only one true God.

There is no Saviour of the world except for this one true God.

Therefore, the Saviour of the world must be the one true God.

This leads to another question:

Is Jesus the Saviour of the world?

I do not think that anyone who has read the New Testament would dispute this.  Even your favourite version of the Bible refers to Jesus as the Saviour: "and of the Saviour of us, Christ Jesus" --Titus 2:13.

Therefore, since:

The one true God is the only Saviour of the world (Isaiah 43:10,11), and

Jesus is the Saviour of the world (Titus 2:13; 2 Peter 1:1),

Jesus must therefore be the one true God.

To deny that Jesus is the one true God, one would either have to deny that Jesus is the Saviour, or say that God is lying to us in Isaiah 43:11.  Neither alternative fits with Scripture.

Does Titus 2:13 teach that Jesus is God our Saviour?

In Titus 2:13 it states the following:

"Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify to Himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works."

Paul is here through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit stating clearly that it is Jesus who is our great God and Saviour unless you are disputing this fact.
" You are my witnesses , says the LORD(God the father) , and my servant whom I have chosen: that you may know and believe me, and understand that I am He: before me there was no God formed(God the Son and God the Holy Spirit , neither shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the LORD(God the father); and beside Me there is no saviour(God the Son and God the Holy Spirit) ," (Isaiah 43:10,11).
" You are my witnesses , says the LORD(God the son) , and my servant whom I have chosen: that you may know and believe me, and understand that I am He: before me there was no God(God the father and the Holy Spirit) formed, neither shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the LORD(God the son); and beside Me there is no saviour(God the father and God the Holy Spirit) ," (Isaiah 43:10,11).
" You are my witnesses , says the LORD(God the Holy Spirit) , and my servant whom I have chosen: that you may know and believe me, and understand that I am He: before me there was no God formed(God the father and God the Son) , neither shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the LORD(God the Holy Spirit); and beside Me there is no saviour(God the father and God the son)," (Isaiah 43:10,11).
Which way?
NOTE: You believe the Trinity consist of three persons. Don't come back and tell me something else.

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