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Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by lailo: 9:09am On May 25, 2017
three:


You CAN categorically blame Fashola because this scenario was the status quo when he offered his criticism.

That he's now unable to perform shows him up as one who has a character deficit, one who grandstands at the expense of those who can't provide for themselves and one who but for the semantics of serving under a different platform is THE SAME as the people he criticised.
I backed him DAT u can't blame fashola but Jonathan.Fashola thought d privatisation was a true one and then expected that things should have been easier since government no longer runs d sector.Little did he know until he gets to power that d Jonathan's privatisation was a fraud and mere arrangement to make more billionaires like he boasted.When Buhari came and made a move to scrap d privatisation,u guys were d ones shouting,now enjoy ur shambles.
Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by eddy4naija: 9:10am On May 25, 2017
I will always say it again and again that until states are allowed 2 generate and distribute power 2 their own people, dis kwontri called nigeria will kwontinue 2 b in darkness. we've only b having rulers wey no get sense 2 reason but only 2 steal money

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Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by Michel2013: 9:11am On May 25, 2017
this best thing is to decentralise power so that each state or region can generate their power from any source they deemed fit or concession power to foreign companies to manage for nigeria. this country can never manage anything national efficiently. tribalism would never permit efficiency at national level. why are we deceiving ourselves here for many years? in Dubai it is foreign companies that are managing her power and there is nothing like power failure. nigeria is just a poo hole for corruption and tribalism. it is regrettably that most nigeria youths today may live their lifespan without witnessing one week non power failure in nigeria yet they are dreaming of going to heaven.

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Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by onos217(m): 9:20am On May 25, 2017
I have said it times without number that we don't have leaders in this country. Nigeria is like a ship without a captain. And like a ship without a captain is heading in no particular direction—we are directionless.
If Nigeria continues with these crop of shallow minded individuals, we are truly heading no where.
Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by Paperwhite(m): 9:26am On May 25, 2017
magoo10:
APC is associated with failure
the only thing filled in their brains is propaganda
they met power at about 4000 mega watts and what do we have today? darkness all over.
That is just the point.May it never be well with this APC government.As for the mod that banned me,I leave your case to God.
Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by Paperwhite(m): 9:33am On May 25, 2017
Now I believe Fashola can acknowledge that "to produce electricity is now rocket science"? BTW what is a SAN doing as power minister? angry
Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by Jolar101(m): 9:33am On May 25, 2017
This Minister of power is a worst clueless, minister we ever had. He don't even know where to begin, as he was campaigning to be given opportunity.

The wheel of power its handed over to him, it's nearly four years since they had handed over power to.

Electricity in Nigeria is being managed by nonengineering but by useless politicians.

Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by loswhite(m): 9:39am On May 25, 2017
okoyeale67:
come to think of it, this is a country that supplies power to other countries
where did u get that from? Useless country that cannot provide u power will now sell power to other countries...lol please go easy on the weed
Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by magoo10(m): 9:40am On May 25, 2017
Paperwhite:
That is just the point.May it never be well with this APC government.As for the mod that banned me,I leave your case to God.
amen o
Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by jpphilips(m): 9:42am On May 25, 2017
Obj did the plants all that was required of jonathan was to revamp transmission then sell, he couldn't do neither, believe me when i tell you that Jonathan is cursed.

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Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by magoo10(m): 9:43am On May 25, 2017
Jolar101:
This Minister of power is a worst clueless, minister we ever had. He don't even know where to begin, as he was campaigning to be given opportunity.

The wheel of power its handed over to him, it's nearly four years since they had handed over power to.
Now that PDP is out of govt what is holding the dullards from transforming the sector? instead they will still blame PDP, useless and inefficient buffoons that call themselves apshit

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Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by maxjax(m): 9:44am On May 25, 2017
dont mind him.....spreading false news
loswhite:
where did u get that from? Useless country that cannot provide u power will now sell power to other countries...lol please go easy on the weed
Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by Reference(m): 9:47am On May 25, 2017
bakynes:

You can't categorically blame Fashola because GEJ sold all PHCN asset to politicians and his cronies. They have not invested one naira into the old failing Nepa Facilities and their contracts cannot be easily terminated, until the present govt find a way to terminate that contract and work on their own ideas,if they now fail you can start blaming Fashola.

Ideas first. What are the ideas that distinguishes this government from the one that sold the sector to 'cronies'. Remember all, that this government was voted in, (i.e the past government was voted out) to right the wrongs. If it cannot then what is the difference.

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Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by Mcowubaba: 9:48am On May 25, 2017
eddy4naija:
I will always say it again and again that until states are allowed 2 generate and distribute power 2 their own people, dis kwontri called nigeria will kwontinue 2 b in darkness. we've only b having rulers wey no get sense 2 reason but only 2 steal money
Are state Governments totally banned from generating power or distributing power?
Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by murmee: 9:49am On May 25, 2017
Billyonaire:
Is this not enough reason to fragment the country into 6 independent unit ?
I wonder o!
Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by Reference(m): 9:49am On May 25, 2017
magoo10:

Now that PDP is out of govt what is holding the dullards from transforming the sector? instead they will still blame PDP, useless and inefficient buffoons that call themselves apshit

I don't get it. Morufu ruined my car. Kola promised to repair it. I sacked Morufu, handed the car over to Kola. After 2 days the car remains the same. 'Kola, what is happening. Sir.... Morufu bad gaaaan'.

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Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by jpphilips(m): 9:51am On May 25, 2017
elyte89:
I shouted up Nepa during late 80's and I am so sure my Kids too will exp d same scenerio,take a gud look at our neighbouring countries,like Ghana,Benin rep,Togo,burkina Faso etc are eida on constant/steady power supply of 16hrs daily(a case study SENEGAL)
Is dt here in Nigeria,we re so daft dt we can't generate electricity to sustain us b4 thinking of selling outside 1st or we lack competency in d aspect of power generation,abi na ba leader,cos I can't just phantom it again
If we look at d Fortune spent on dis power sector alone,right from 1999-present date,i am so sure it will b enough to generate substantial power from d scratch cos ever since 1983,we av been rovering ard 2000MW-4500MW
Abi,shld we employ/beg d ppu at d helms of affair when nigeria was at 0MW,and build d power to 4,500MW,we re still using up till date,cos those at d helms of affair from 1999_till date re not adding anytin meaningful to our power sector rada they are only maintaining/worsening what deir predecessors left in the power sector

what is the population and landmass of the countries you compared with Nigeria?
Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by Reference(m): 9:53am On May 25, 2017
Mcowubaba:

Are state Governments totally banned from generating power or distributing power?

Yes, in a way. They can only go into partnership with the gencos or discos. No one has the permit outside the act to generate, transmitt or distribute for public use.... in a nutshell. You cannot give your neighbour electricity and collect money. It is illegal.
Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by bakynes(m): 9:58am On May 25, 2017
Reference:


Ideas first. What are the ideas that distinguishes this government from the one that sold the sector to 'cronies'. Remember all, that this government was voted in, (i.e the past government was voted out) to right the wrongs. If it cannot then what is the difference.
The problem of Power is in the hands of the DISCOs because their facilities is unable to accept the power been transmitted by the Gencos. They have refused to invest into building new facilities, which will be able to accommodate the power supplied to them. If they can't accommodate common 4000MW, how will they be able to accommodate a bigger one even if Fashola builds a 10,000MW Dam.

When I heard in 2013 the GEJ govt wanted to privatize the sector, I was happy thinking they will invite foreign electricity companies (like Gazprom,GDF Suez etc) to come build their facilities, so we can choose who to patronize just like the Telecom industry today (MTN,GLO,ETISALAT etc) at least we are enjoying it now. Not knowing he was selling the old maribond facilities of PHCN to cronies to manage.

They signed a legal contract, so it cannot be easily revoked because of legal implications. So we have to wait till the contract expires before this present govt knows what to do next.

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Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by elyte89: 9:58am On May 25, 2017
jpphilips:


what is the population and landmass of the countries you compared with Nigeria?
Is dt an excuse for our failure,ogbeni quit politics,and let's look dis issue beyond politic,it's affecting evrybody weda pdp or apc,and neida am I a party member.look at my post very well,i blamed evrybody including me
Now back to ur querry,are we d only Most populous nation in d world?dont we av oda countries more pop dan us and de re enjoyin steady power supply?blame us,and stop lookin for excuse

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Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by LordOfNaira: 9:59am On May 25, 2017
frubben:


Greed brother greed. Give Nigeria uninterrupted power supply and people like otedola, ifeanyi ubah and Co go down in business, uyi technical too

You have said the truth, bro!!! Because I don't understand what could be the problem if not greed!!! Even countries poorer than Nigeria enjoy stable power supply and here these greedy people are making it look impossible to achieve!!!
Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by freethesheeple(m): 10:00am On May 25, 2017
izzou:
grin

The money spent on reviving power in this country can build a generating, transmitting and distributing station from the scratch.


hahahahhahahah....

Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by murmee: 10:00am On May 25, 2017
eddy4naija:
I will always say it again and again that until states are allowed 2 generate and distribute power 2 their own people, dis kwontri called nigeria will kwontinue 2 b in darkness. we've only b having rulers wey no get sense 2 reason but only 2 steal money
That is one major part of the restructuring we are talking about but some parts of the country are totally against it. So sad!
Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by three: 10:00am On May 25, 2017
lailo:

I backed him DAT u can't blame fashola but Jonathan.Fashola thought d privatisation was a true one and then expected that things should have been easier since government no longer runs d sector.Little did he know until he gets to power that d Jonathan's privatisation was a fraud and mere arrangement to make more billionaires like he boasted.When Buhari came and made a move to scrap d privatisation,u guys were d ones shouting,now enjoy ur shambles.

Fashola was aware of the dodgy privatisation when he made his criticism

http://thenationonlineng.net/to-have-stable-electricity-vote-out-pdp-fashola/
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/11/fashola-faults-fg-n213bn-power-intervention-fund/

How do you criticise a person only to get into the person's shoes and do exactly what you criticized that person for doing if not that you are;
A. A career hypocrite
B. Bereft of honour and good conscience
C. As clueless as the person you criticised ab initio
D. A reckless individual with verbal diarrhea

Fashola on getting to office after flagging the fact that the privatisation is dodgy now categorically states that he WILL NOT cancel the contracts

“The Federal Government will respect and uphold the contract it has been committed to and inherited from the past administration.
“I am not in charge of power sector to revoke the privatisation agreement signed three years ago,” the minister said.
According to him, the government has nothing to gain from sending investors in the power sector parking, following calls from some quarters asking for revocation of privatisation of the sector.
“If those calling for revisiting of the privatisation of the power sector meant to say improving the governance, performance and efficiency, then, I am here for that.
“If revisiting it will mean that Distribution Companies (DISCOs) should open up and investments should come in, I am for that.
“If it means that the entire power sector will become very efficient, I will support it.
“But, I will not support cancelling of the contracts we had with them.
“If we revoke privatisation of the sector, investors will carry their bags and go, they will tell others that Nigeria is not reliable for investment,’’ Fashola said.

The last three sentences in bold show the acute hypocrisy of the man - sacrificing present integrity for future integrity (I hope you get this)

https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/business/fg-will-not-revoke-privatisation-of-nation-s-power-sector-fashola/171123.html

I hope you are better informed

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Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by oscarline2002: 10:00am On May 25, 2017
Who will bring to an end the power crises looming the nation and declare state of emergency in power as they declare state of emergency in insurgency or crises proned areas? Even Fashola does not know what to do, having lumped three technical Extra Ministerial Agencies that is the hope of common man to a lawyer who does not know what a BILL OF ENGINEERING MEASUREMENT AND EVALUATION (BEME) is all about. However, if senate does not know what to do, they should all resign and lets close the bi- cameral chambers and bring in NATIONAL CONFERENCE THAT WILL BE MEETING ONCE A MONTH. GOSH!!!!NIGERIA IN SERIOUS JEOPARDY! GOD HELP US.
Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by ofwest47: 10:10am On May 25, 2017
If DISCOS still continue to be in charge of power distribution in Nigeria, the country will continue to be in darkness. The only solution is for the senate to make a law to dismantle them as they know nothing about power system.
Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by Mcowubaba: 10:10am On May 25, 2017
Reference:


Yes, in a way. They can only go into partnership with the gencos or discos. No one has the permit outside the act to generate, transmitt or distribute for public use.... in a nutshell. You cannot give your neighbour electricity and collect money. It is illegal.

Hmmmmm.

Who made all this reckless laws and policies
So a State Government can't invest in power generation solely without involving gencos and discos, very appalling.

Too much bottlenecks and Bureaucracy in this Country..

Can't this policy be reversed? Or amended....

Anyways, the big Question is "How many State Governments are even ready AND WILLING to generate and distribute Electricity" the haven't finished paying salaries and undertaking white elephant projects, plus the funds the will embezzle....

One of the biggest problem of Nigeria is that more than 70-80% percent of our annual budget goes to Recurrent expenditure, only less than 30% goes for Capital projects, how can a nation function like this?

Another issue to look at, even the 20-30% used for Capital projects are Not properly utilized
.

Nigeria is doomed for now, no remedy.
Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by Reference(m): 10:15am On May 25, 2017
bakynes:

The problem of Power is in the hands of the DISCOs because their facilities is unable to accept the power been transmitted by the Gencos. They have refused to invest into building new facilities which will be able to accommodate the power supplied to them. If they can't accommodate common 4000MW how will they be able to accommodate a bigger one even if Fashola builds a 10,000MW Dam.

When I heard in 2013 the GEJ govt wanted to privatize the sector I was happy thinking it they will invite foreign electricity companies to come build their facilities so we can choose who to patronize just like the Telecom industry today at least we are enjoying it now. Not knowing he was selling the Old maribond facilities of PHCN to cronies to manage.

They signed a legal contract so it cannot be easily revoked because of legal implications. So we have to wait till the contract expires before this present govt knows what to do next.

I agree but that is still not ideas. Ideas represent a new thinking that solves problems. Yes, they are 'cronies' or whatever, yes they have not invested (not entirely true), yes their contracts maybe watertight but wtat are the ideas to get round these obstacles. This is what governments are elected to do. Solve problems. If there were no problems in life, there will be no need for governments. If there were no challenges, there is no need for leadership.

In developed countries current problems are analysed constantly by those in government and those in opposition and solutions are proferred regularly to societal issues. So that whosoever gets into power knows the challenges and has a working solution ar hand. Government is not the place to 'learn work'. Theresa May had a vision for brexit and a working solution to go eith it. That was the basis of her ascension. That is why to date you don't hear blaming past governments here and there.

I hope Nigerians can fly through the haze of ethnocentrism in the future and ask serious questions before giving power at the ballot. If not real change is just a mirage.
Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by murmee: 10:17am On May 25, 2017
Mcowubaba:

Are state Governments totally banned from generating power or distributing power?
Yes! Whatever they (States) generate must be transfered to the National Grid!

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Re: No Hope For Nigeria Power Sector – Senate by Reference(m): 10:20am On May 25, 2017
Mcowubaba:


Hmmmmm.

Who made all this reckless laws and policies
So a State Government can't invest in power generation solely without involving gencos and discos, very appalling.

Too much bottlenecks and Bureaucracy in this Country..

Can't this policy be reversed? Or amended....

Anyways, the big Question is "How many State Governments are even ready AND WILLING to generate and distribute Electricity" the haven't finished paying salaries and undertaking white elephant projects, plus the funds the will embezzle....

One of the biggest problem of Nigeria is that more than 70-80% percent of our annual budget goes to Recurrent expenditure, only less than 30% goes for Capital projects, how can a nation function like this?

Another issue to look at, even the 20-30% used for Capital projects are Not properly utilized
.

Nigeria is doomed for now, no remedy.

Well, I will tell you, one of the attractions of the process was the exclusivity of the business. Ask yourself why government decided to sell just 5 GSM licenses in 2001 and not 36, one for each state. And how successful the government has been at selling licenses for refinery development that it made more or less open to all and sundry.

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