Social vices has become the order of the day in every part of the world, every single individual behaves in contrary to the established rules and regulations of the society, while some people blame this on religion, others blame it on family, and the rest on individuals. A typical example of what we are establishing here is the issue of Boko Haram in Nigeria, while some people blame it on the Islamic religion the members of this sect appear to proclaim, others antagonised them and noted that it is not only the Muslims that are involved in Boko Haram, not even the Nigerians alone but others from the neighbouring countries.
The issue of Boko Haram has generated a lot of arguments and controversies between the Nigerians which eventually led to tagging the Islamic religion as encouraging violence. Therefore the focus of this work is to examine the correlation between social value and the Islamic religion in relation to Boko Haram phenomenon in Nigeria.
First, It is worth noting that the Islamic religion has being in existence since the era of Prophet Ibrahim(Abraham), Allah noted in the Sanctified Quran that "Say(Oh you Muhammad) surely my lord has guided me to the right path, a most right religion, the faith of Ibrahim the upright one, and he was not of the polytheists".
Another verse also depicts that Prophet Ibrahim was the one who pioneered the name Muslim, and it goes thus "And strive hard in the way of Allah as you ought to do, He has chosen you and not laid upon you any form of hardship in your religion, the faith of your father Ibrahim, He named you Muslims before........."
Going by the two verses in which the former could be seen in Suratul Anham of the glorious Quran and the latter in Suratul Hajj of the holy Quran also, We can easily establish the fact that Islam has been existing back in the days of Prophet Ibrahim till today and shall be forever, The question to be raised now is does Islamic religion contributes to social value or in the other way round social malady or anomie, before the attempt to finalise and answer this question is made, there is a need to check what Islam says about social value.
Allah noted in the chapter 103 of the Quran that " I swear by the time, Verily man shall be in loss, Except those who believe and engage in righteousness and enjoin on each other truth and patience .
In the chapter above there is an understanding that belief is not the only way to success in Islamic perspective rather righteousness must always follow or work hand in hand with our belief, and with that man can be among those that will be saved from loss by the end time has said by Allah. Another point backing up the fact that Islam and moral values work hand in hand is that, the Prophet of Islam, Muhammad noted that " I have been raised by Allah to perfect good morals and values", coupled with this is the fact that those who the Prophet brought to Islam with his own distinct and commendable attitude are much more than those he preached to verbally.
The Prophet was reported to have made an elderly woman revert to Islam by helping her in carrying a bunch of sticks on her head down to her house from the bush, look how beautiful the religion of Islam is and it's Prophet. The relation and interaction of the Prophet with the unbelievers in the city of Mecca was peaceful, he never raised his arms against them, he related with them kindly to the extent that he protected and kept their properties in his custody without taking a dime or a penny from them, and with this he was given the title Al-Ameen (The Trust Worthy).
People across the world especially the anti Islamists do say that Islam is indeed attached with terrorism without any traceable evidence for their opinion and stance, Even the Prophet never waged war against the pagans of Makkah except when they attempted to drive the followers of Islam away from the city of Makkah, even though they are bonafide citizens of the city. The disbelievers of Makkah persecuted the Prophet and his followers and upon that the order from God is that they should be patient but not relent, when the persecution appears to be unbearable, the Prophet attempted to migrate to Taif, but this became futile because it has gotten to the notice of the disbelievers of Makkah the attempt to migrate, so they quickly informed the people of Taif not to accept the Prophet and his followers to stay in their land, then the Prophet was rejected, not only that he was stoned by both the old ones and young ones of Taif.
More so, the followers of the Prophet also attempted to migrate to Abyssinian in order to lessen the persecution faced by them, but they were blocked by this disbelievers again who went to the king of Abyssinian with the purpose of making the followers of the Prophet a persona non grata in the city of Abyssinian. The pagans went along with many gifts for the king but unfortunately the king made the followers of the Prophet stay in his city because he noticed some similarities between his religion (Christianity) and that of Islam.
The last migration of the Prophet and his followers was to Madinah, and this was because this time around the persecution was directed to the Prophet himself, while his followers were in Abyssinian, he was still in Madinah because he has an uncle (Abu Talib) who is ready to protect his life from the pagans who are ready to execute him. Unfortunately, the guardian of the Prophet ( Abu Talib) died and this aroused the attempt of the pagans to kill him, after all his protector is no more, It was in the course of this the Prophet was orded by Allah to migrate to Madina, the people of Madinah welcomed the Prophet and entertained him on getting to their city. This made the pagans of Makkah so depress and waged war against the Prophet in Madinah.
The above illustration shows that Islam does not in any way support terrorism, Even the code guiding war in Islam is very strict, when you are engaging in battle against a set of people, you must not kill except from that opponent group, even you must not attempt to kill the women and children of that same group, so saying that the Muslims are terrorists is out of place because Islam does not encourage disorder or terrorism, On this note if any individual claims to be a Muslim and at the same time a terrorist, then he is a nominal Muslim because he lacks the basic understanding of Islam as a religion, perhaps he or she inherited the religion from his or her parent and does not care to understand the religion in depth.
Therefore, Boko Haram in Nigeria is not and shall never be an Islamic sect because they kill the general masses, both the Muslims and Christians, they bomb both the Churches and Mosques, The penalty for killing a soul intentionally in Islam is also death, and if by mistake, you pay for the soul and then fast for three months consecutively. Allah noted that "Whoever kill a soul is comparable to he who kill every living soul on the surface of the earth".
Conclusively, the only religion that enjoins good moral and social values strictly is Islam because it contains in it's constitution which is the Quran dos and donts which encourage righteousness and discourage social and moral decadence.
Compiled by,
Abdulganiy Abdullah O,
Director of Social World,
08090637356.
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Abraham has no business with Islam.
He is the Father of Faith.
Friend of God.
Faithful Man.

He was at mount Moriah for the Sacrifice of Isaac NOT Ishmael...

Married to Sarah and later Keturah.....never married Hagar the house girl, his babymama. The Egyptian mother of Ishmael...

So OP go read accurate story of Abraham and his relationship with God from the Bible not Quran that came into being after 780AD.

The bible only states 'Abomination of desolation' when describing Islam of today. Ezekiel 8: 15-17. Matthew 24:15

Islam is not recognised as religion in the bible but as ''Abomination, Violence and Desolation''. These are attributes of SATAN.

ZKOSOSO you have completely destroyed Islam.

Didn't even read the op but I know its thrash anyway.

ZKOSOSO:
Abraham has no business with Islam.
He is the Father of Faith.
Friend of God.
Faithful Man.

He was at mount Moriah for the Sacrifice of Isaac NOT Ishmael...

Married to Sarah and later Keturah.....never married Hagar the house girl, his babymama. The Egyptian mother of Ishmael...

So OP go read accurate story of Abraham and his relationship with God from the Bible not Quran that came into being after 780AD.

The bible only states 'Abomination of desolation' when describing Islam of today. Ezekiel 8: 15-17. Matthew 24:15

Islam is not recognised as religion in the bible but as ''Abomination, Violence and Desolation''. These are attributes of SATAN.

Thank you.

Zkososo I am pissed off with the way u attend to this issue and it depict the high level of your counter sagacity to know the truth......Any evidence from the bible that categorically detest Islam....of course none......even in the book of Barnabas u will find in there that a Prophet is coming after Jesus but you people with Ur hatred and pride covered it up......after all some prophets have been sent before Jesus and the last was after him which is my Prophet.........Moreso the bible you claim to be your source of evidence is indeed full of lies, unreasonable talks after all it was designed after Jesus by some of his haters including paul, Peter and co......Abraham is indeed the father of faith......and Islam is indeed the way to faith....Jesus never call to Christianity rather he called to the path of God.....you people out of your ignorance took him as God.....#Wise up.....God does not beget.....put biase and subjectivity aside......Islam does not preach violence even the Jews during the time of the Prophet can testify to this...go back to history....

OP....am a Student of Quran. A college trained Bible Scholar...

What u called Book of Barnabas was not accepted at the Nuncial Council as inspired holy writ along side many others.
I can confirm to u that Quran is the compilation of most despicable and unintelligible books out there. Very easy to spot it's faked. Jealously protected with death threats anytime a red flag is raised.

If u want a debate on this. Am ready.

halarho:
Zkososo I am pissed off with the way u attend to this issue and it depict the high level of your counter sagacity to know the truth......Any evidence from the bible that categorically detest Islam....of course none......even in the book of Barnabas u will find in there that a Prophet is coming after Jesus but you people with Ur hatred and pride covered it up......after all some prophets have been sent before Jesus and the last was after him which is my Prophet.........Moreso the bible you claim to be your source of evidence is indeed full of lies, unreasonable talks after all it was designed after Jesus by some of his haters including paul, Peter and co......Abraham is indeed the father of faith......and Islam is indeed the way to faith....Jesus never call to Christianity rather he called to the path of God.....you people out of your ignorance took him as God.....#Wise up.....God does not beget.....put biase and subjectivity aside......Islam does not preach violence even the Jews during the time of the Prophet can testify to this...go back to history....

Now friend, as regards the highlighted,help debunk this thread (and do it quickly!) https://www.nairaland.com/2912069/gospel-barnabas-laid-rest

Mr man I am not interested in reading those stories of yours what you should know is that Jesus is never the son of God but rather he is a messenger of God........

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All I need to know about Islam is it's set out rules and how it's leaders and followers behave, I don't care about anything more.. So let's examine Islam.

Who was the founder of Islam - Mohammed
Was Mohammed peaceful? - According to historical evidence, he was not, and he was nothing short of a psychopath.

The life of Mohammed and the origin of Islam in a nutshell

Islam originated in Mecca and Medina at the start of the 7th century. In 610 CE, Muhammad began receiving what Muslims consider to be divine revelations. He began Islam peacefully but his voice was not heard, people ignored him and his religion he then set out the part of a mad man, killing and coercing people to join his religion, he conquered mecca with the help of his followers , he then made the followers of other religions to pay taxes in order to be allowed to practice their religion.

He then went further to conquer Jerusalem because of his hate for the Jews which he felt unclean, this led to the establishment of the first crusades on a mission to take back Jerusalem... And so on..


Throughout the existence of Islam, the world has always felt how terrible that religion is and how retarded it's followers can be, all other religions has undergone reformation, but Islam is still what it is, an old age religion meant for cave men and people who have chosen to be retarded...


Don't come claiming Islam is peaceful when we've all felt it's effects.

I need you to answer this , not just boko haram, but the Holy war by uthman Dan fodio and the sokoto caliphate, was that Islamic or uthman Dan fodio acted based on selfish intentions?

Islam is no where close to peaceful Mr man..

Naturally, it's easier for people to accept anything that tarnishes the image of what they don't like whether its true or false. So, I'm sure nothing is going to stop some people from seeing Islam as a religion of violence no matter what proof states otherwise.

benzics:
All I need to know about Islam is it's set out rules and how it's leaders and followers behave, I don't care about anything more.. So let's examine Islam.

Who was the founder of Islam - Mohammed
Was Mohammed peaceful? - According to historical evidence, he was not, and he was nothing short of a psychopath.

The life of Mohammed and the origin of Islam in a nutshell

Islam originated in Mecca and Medina at the start of the 7th century. In 610 CE, Muhammad began receiving what Muslims consider to be divine revelations. He began Islam peacefully but his voice was not heard, people ignored him and his religion he then set out the part of a mad man, killing and coercing people to join his religion, he conquered mecca with the help of his followers , he then made the followers of other religions to pay taxes in order to be allowed to practice their religion.

He then went further to conquer Jerusalem because of his hate for the Jews which he felt unclean, this led to the establishment of the first crusades on a mission to take back Jerusalem... And so on..


Throughout the existence of Islam, the world has always felt how terrible that religion is and how retarded it's followers can be, all other religions has undergone reformation, but Islam is still what it is, an old age religion meant for cave men and people who have chosen to be retarded....

Hmmm, I really don't know what to say, it's just so funny. Especially that last statement. So for a religion to be good and peaceful it has to be changed from the original to adulterated or I don't get that reformation part.

First of all, Do you know what Islam means?

The total submission to the will of God.

Muhammad pbuh wasn't the founder of Islam, God was. He named everyone who submits totally to His will Muslims. Muhammad pbuh was just a messenger and prophet.

You just stated your own version of Muhammad's pbuh history. He wasn't a mad man, he was a man ordered to defend and his people against aggressors. That's why there are war verses in the Quran and to my knowledge, even the bible has war verses, the fact that christians try to avoid and ignore those verses doesn't mean they don't exist. Moses too fought wars but he wasn't labelled a mad man.

Islam had to defend and fight to gain freedom from aggressors. And we all know violence in self defense is permitted and accepted even by God.

Angel196:


Hmmm, I really don't know what to say, it's just so funny. Especially that last statement. So for a religion to be good and peaceful it has to be changed from the original to adulterated or I don't get that reformation part.

First of all, Do you know what Islam means?

The total submission to the will of God.

Muhammad pbuh wasn't the founder of Islam, God was. He named everyone who submits totally to His will Muslims. Muhammad pbuh was just a messenger and prophet.

You just stated your own version of Muhammad's pbuh history. He wasn't a mad man, he was a man ordered to defend and his people against aggressors. That's why there are war verses in the Quran and to my knowledge, even the bible has war verses, the fact that christians try to avoid and ignore those verses doesn't mean they don't exist. Moses too fought wars but he wasn't labelled a mad man.

Islam had to defend and fight to gain freedom from aggressors. And we all know violence in self defense is permitted and accepted even by God.

So you mean when Mohammed evaded mecca, he was evading it in self defense? Or the time he evaded Jerusalem, he did so in self defense? Or is it when he tried evading Europe and failed... Or did uthman Dan fodio also fought the Holy war in self defense??

Go practice your taqiyya(holy lie) with someone who doesn't know history, Islam can not undergo reformation and that is why it needs to be erased from the planet earth or with time, it will be the one erasing us!

Angel196:
Naturally, it's easier for people to accept anything that tarnishes the image of what they don't like whether its true or false. So, I'm sure nothing is going to stop some people from seeing Islam as a religion of violence no matter what proof states otherwise.

Tell me, what proof is there of Islam being peaceful?

Isis killing unbelievers and throwing gays off roof, you guys will claim they are not real Muslims where in fact your "infallible" Quran ordered death to "infidels" and apostates...


The difference between a moderate Muslim and an extreme Muslim is that, the moderate Muslim wishes to see Islam dominate the world, and the extreme Muslim is actually working to see that Islam dominates the world...

benzics:


Tell me, what proof is there of Islam being peaceful?

Isis killing unbelievers and throwing gays off roof, you guys will claim they are not real Muslims where in fact your "infallible" Quran ordered death to "infidels" and apostates...


The difference between a moderate Muslim and an extreme Muslim is that, the moderate Muslim wishes to see Islam dominate the world, and the extreme Muslim is actually working to see that Islam dominates the world...

Well can you please quote the verses that ordered the deaths of the infidels so well make step by step interpretation of it?

About Isis issue, haven't you heard about their Muslim victims? And don't tell me you haven't heard about bombs going off in mosques on Fridays during Jumuat prayer or during any prayer. If those called people are so called Muslims following the order of the Quran about killing infidels, I wonder if it also mentioned some where that infidels in did resided in the mosques during prayer times.

Quran 2:193 but remember that no hostility is allow except against the aggressors.

benzics:

So you mean when Mohammed evaded mecca, he was evading it in self defense? Or the time he evaded Jerusalem, he did so in self defense? Or is it when he tried evading Europe and failed... Or did uthman Dan fodio also fought the Holy war in self defense??

Go practice your taqiyya(holy lie) with someone who doesn't know history, Islam can not undergo reformation and that is why it needs to be erased from the planet earth or with time, it will be the one erasing us!

That shows your level of ignorance but please let me enlighten you.

You who knows the real history.....

Do you know that Muhammad was actually born and lived in mecca until the non believers aggressed and plotted to kill him and his followers which lead to his migration to Medina, termed hijirah?

After then, God ordered them to go and fight for their rights but not to transgress.

Q2:190 Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.

191 And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah (aggression) is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.

192 And if they cease, then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

193 Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah and [until] worship is [acknowledged to be] for Allah . But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors.

But I'm sure you still won't accept it but no worries, I'm used to it.

Islam can't undergo reformation because we don't believe in adulteration and because we don't need it. That's why the Quran can't be changed like most holy books have been.

Angel196:


That shows your level of ignorance but please let me enlighten you.

You who knows the real history.....

Do you know that Muhammad was actually born and lived in mecca until the non believers aggressed and plotted to kill him and his followers which lead to his migration to Medina, termed hijirah?

After then, God ordered them to go and fight for their rights but not to transgress.

Q2:190 Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.

191 And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah (aggression) is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.

192 And if they cease, then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

193 Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah and [until] worship is [acknowledged to be] for Allah . But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors.

But I'm sure you still won't accept it but no worries, I'm used to it.

Islam can't undergo reformation because we don't believe in adulteration and because we don't need it. That's why the Quran can't be changed like most holy books have been.

Yes, the lies you keep getting fed with.. Mohammed was born in mecca, but was mecca originally an Islamic nation? You claim he fought in mecca in self defense, if he did, why was he then forcing people to embrace his religion or pay taxes or be killed?

What about uthman Dan fodio? Was his conquest Islamic or selfish? And what Uthman did was exactly what Mohammed did, and in your own understanding and reasoning, it's called "self defense"

Angel196:


Well can you please quote the verses that ordered the deaths of the infidels so well make step by step interpretation of it?

About Isis issue, haven't you heard about their Muslim victims? And don't tell me you haven't heard about bombs going off in mosques on Fridays during Jumuat prayer or during any prayer. If those called people are so called Muslims following the order of the Quran about killing infidels, I wonder if it also mentioned some where that infidels in did resided in the mosques during prayer times.

Quran 2:193 but remember that no hostility is allow except against the aggressors.

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc).

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

benzics:



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Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc). Oppressors or aggressors

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

It might be difficult for you to understand the first verse but I have made the place that shows self defense bold. Turn them out FROM WHERE THEY HAVE TURNED YOU OUT... With your understanding can you interpret that phrase?

And why don't youpeople like writing everything out?

191 And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.

192 And if they cease, then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

193 Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah and [until] worship is [acknowledged to be] for Allah . But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors.

If you are indeed literate, those verses should be easy to spot that it's for self-defense.

And this

3:151 We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah of which He had not sent down [any] authority. And their refuge will be the Fire, and wretched is the residence of the wrongdoers.

If you had care to write it to the end you'll see that it was talking about their punishment on the day of judgement...

benzics:

Yes, the lies you keep getting fed with.. Mohammed was born in mecca, but was mecca originally an Islamic nation? You claim he fought in mecca in self defense, if he did, why was he then forcing people to embrace his religion or pay taxes or be killed?

What about uthman Dan fodio? Was his conquest Islamic or selfish? And what Uthman did was exactly what Mohammed did, and in your own understanding and reasoning, it's called "self defense"

You are very funny, seriously. But to enlighten you..

Mecca, just like any other part of the world had variates of religions then. It was through Muhammad pbuh who was born in mecca that God made Islam official, meaning it was Through him that Islam officially became a religion not just an act.

When he started preaching about Islam, some believed and some disbelieved even amongst his own family members just like Abraham's. For those who believed and began practicing Islam, began being picked on and aggressed by the non believers that some were even forced to change back due to fear. The ones who refused were killed and threatened. Even Muhammad was threatened and some plotted to kill h8m and his remaining followers, hence he had to leave his home and land and migrated to Medina (hijira).

God then gave them the go ahead to fight back and retaliate against their oppressors but not to transgress because transgression is a sin.

2:190 Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.

He asked them to kill and drive those people away from the places they have driven them from, their lands, houses etc

191 And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.

God told them to stop, if those who fight and oppress them stop their aggression

192 And if they cease, then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

And he warned them that there should be no aggression except against the oppressors.

193 Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah and [until] worship is [acknowledged to be] for Allah . But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors.

After then Muslims were allowed to practice and worship freely, which encouraged those that never practiced due to the fear of oppression from non believers. Islam fought many wars after then too that had to do with self-defense and treason.

I can go on and on posting verses to prove this but I know it'll just be waste of time. I can even post verses that commanded Muslims to protect disbelievers during war when they seek for it and they should deliver them to safety even if those disbelievers refuse to convert. But your notions and mentality can never be changed because you are too proud to see and accept the truth.

Pls if u are to object any opinion, sincerity and truthfulness matter most, some of you said Muhammad killed to call people on to the path of God without evidence...... U said Quran is fallible bring any fault in it....unlike your Bible where love letters are found there day to day.......be objective in you analysis

Pls any fault in the Quran as you claimed it is fallible unlike your Bible where you have love letters and other obvious errors.......... Pls sincerity and objectivity !matter most in anything you are doing somebody raised a point that Muhammad killed to call people on to the path of Islam pls your source.......you are nothing but a bloody liar...........any historical evidence for that from renowned historians pls

OP try harder. There are hundreds of Islamic terrorist groups out there. Have you ever wonder why Muslims kill themselves and others? Arabs are cursed. They are troublesome people. They hate peace. Anywhere there is Islam no peace. Fear everywhere. Muslims who left the Middle East have spread their hatred abroad. They excaped from war they created with their own religion and ran to countries where Peace reigh. They didnt leave their religion at the war ground. They took it along. Now they have brought the troublesome attitude to thier new location. They will never change. An Arab is an Arab. No matter how educated an Arab is, once it comes to Islam, He behaves like a stack illiterate. Kill for allah, hate those who reject allah, kill anyone who renouce Islam etc.

You cant deceive anyone. Thanks to the internet. The quran and Hadiths are readable online. All these Islamic terrorist groups are following the footsteps of Muhammad. If you must be a true Muslim, you must kill and for allah to be able to obtain the 72 vingins licence

Follow this link to see all Islamic terrorist groups. Stop saying Boko is not islamic. Boko and IsIS are in the list.

https://www.nairaland.com/3751379/same-religion-same-god-same/2

ZKOSOSO:
Abraham has no business with Islam.
He is the Father of Faith.
Friend of God.
Faithful Man.

He was at mount Moriah for the Sacrifice of Isaac NOT Ishmael...

Married to Sarah and later Keturah.....never married Hagar the house girl, his babymama. The Egyptian mother of Ishmael...

So OP go read accurate story of Abraham and his relationship with God from the Bible not Quran that came into being after 780AD.

The bible only states 'Abomination of desolation' when describing Islam of today. Ezekiel 8: 15-17. Matthew 24:15

Islam is not recognised as religion in the bible but as ''Abomination, Violence and Desolation''. These are attributes of SATAN.

So at Point..

halarho:
Mr man I am not interested in reading those stories of yours what you should know is that Jesus is never the son of God but rather he is a messenger of God........

Said by self claimed Prophet Muhammad? What do you know about your Father Fathers? Do you know them better than your Father? Use your tongue to count your teeth Man!

halarho:
Pls if u are to object any opinion, sincerity and truthfulness matter most, some of you said Muhammad killed to call people on to the path of God without evidence...... U said Quran is fallible bring any fault in it....unlike your Bible where love letters are found there day to day.......be objective in you analysis

DO you understand Arabic better than the Arabs? Why is Saudi (sunny) and Iran (shiit) great enemies up to the extent of suicide bombing each other? The reason why there are so much terrorist groups in The Arabian world is because of the satanic Religion created by Muhammad. Look at other parts of the world. Only in the Middle East you hear of daily suicide bombing. Pathetic!

plappville:


DO you understand Arabic better than the Arabs? Why is Saudi (sunny) and Iran (shiit) great enemies up to the extent of suicide bombing each other? The reason why there are so much terrorist groups in The Arabian world is because of the satanic Religion created by Muhammad. Look at other parts of the world. Only in the Middle East you hear of daily suicide bombing. Pathetic!

Hahahaha......Ur question looks childish... It is equal to me asking u why some Christians are redeem and some chosen....... No matter group u follow u are still reaching a goal provided the basis still stand.....#grow up boy

Angel196:


You are very funny, seriously. But to enlighten you..

Mecca, just like any other part of the world had variates of religions then. It was through Muhammad pbuh who was born in mecca that God made Islam official, meaning it was Through him that Islam officially became a religion not just an act.

When he started preaching about Islam, some believed and some disbelieved even amongst his own family members just like Abraham's. For those who believed and began practicing Islam, began being picked on and aggressed by the non believers that some were even forced to change back due to fear. The ones who refused were killed and threatened. Even Muhammad was threatened and some plotted to kill h8m and his remaining followers, hence he had to leave his home and land and migrated to Medina (hijira).

God then gave them the go ahead to fight back and retaliate against their oppressors but not to transgress because transgression is a sin.

2:190 Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.

He asked them to kill and drive those people away from the places they have driven them from, their lands, houses etc

191 And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.

God told them to stop, if those who fight and oppress them stop their aggression

192 And if they cease, then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

And he warned them that there should be no aggression except against the oppressors.

193 Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah and [until] worship is [acknowledged to be] for Allah . But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors.

After then Muslims were allowed to practice and worship freely, which encouraged those that never practiced due to the fear of oppression from non believers. Islam fought many wars after then too that had to do with self-defense and treason.

I can go on and on posting verses to prove this but I know it'll just be waste of time. I can even post verses that commanded Muslims to protect disbelievers during war when they seek for it and they should deliver them to safety even if those disbelievers refuse to convert. But your notions and mentality can never be changed because you are too proud to see and accept the truth.

Good explanation there though, only if they were true... You see I get this feeling whenever am arguing with a Muslim, that they are probably practicing taqiyya with me, because they never run out of lies, and they can defend anything.

You keep claiming Mohammed fought in mecca for self defense, and you claim Islam became the main religion of mecca through Allah, well that's a big lie, go tell that to those who easily forget events.. Mecca was made Islamic after Mohammed launched his religious wars forcing unbelievers to convert or die (if they won't pay taxes), unbelievers had to convert, run, or pay taxes in fear for their lives, and you are here claiming "Allah" did it..

OK, you still hold the notion that Mohammed always fought in self defense, what about the invasion of Jerusalem by Muslims ? Did the Jews come to mecca to kill islamists or was Jerusalem also Mohammed's land?

Muslims have always followed the instructions and lifestyle of Mohammed, the hijirah you keep talking about, isn't that the style of Muslims? Like how they take over any country they are allowed in..

Look at Iran, was Iran originally Islamic? Or did Allah make Iran Islamic??

One peculiar thing about Muslims is that they hold the notion "Islam will dominate the world", and the extreme ones will go to any limits, even suicide bombing themselves to see that that happens.. Just look at immigrants into London, who were pitied by the British government, they are now calling for sharia to be the order of the Land in London...

Islam is nothing but terrible!

Uthman, Osama, what about the Islamic leader that killed a writer for writing "the satanic verses" book, what about Muslims who went around killing people because Mohammed was displayed as a cartoon... That is how re.tarded Muslims can be, killing someone over a cartoon!!!!

If I should be the leader of any nation I'll see to it that the population of Muslims never gets much, because they have this notion.

When in few: We are the religion of peace, don't hate us.

When they are in moderate population: Sharia should be implemented.

When they are many: Islam or else...

If Islam is peaceful, why are it's followers violent?

halarho:
Pls if u are to object any opinion, sincerity and truthfulness matter most, some of you said Muhammad killed to call people on to the path of God without evidence...... U said Quran is fallible bring any fault in it....unlike your Bible where love letters are found there day to day.......be objective in you analysis

Lol, so you prefer war and hate letters to love letters?? Not supporting the Bible too, cuz they are same, a plagiarism of the Jewish Torah

benzics:



Good explanation there though, only if they were true... You see I get this feeling whenever am arguing with a Muslim, that they are probably practicing taqiyya with me, because they never run out of lies, and they can defend anything.

You keep claiming Mohammed fought in mecca for self defense, and you claim Islam became the main religion of mecca through Allah, well that's a big lie, go tell that to those who easily forget events.. Mecca was made Islamic after Mohammed launched his religious wars forcing unbelievers to convert or die (if they won't pay taxes), unbelievers had to convert, run, or pay taxes in fear for their lives, and you are here claiming "Allah" did it..

OK, you still hold the notion that Mohammed always fought in self defense, what about his Jerusalem evasion? Did the Jews come to mecca to kill islamists or was Jerusalem also Mohammed's land?

Muslims have always followed the instructions and lifestyle of Mohammed, the hijirah you keep talking about, isn't that the style of Muslims? Like how they take over any country they are allowed in..

Look at Iran, was Iran originally Islamic? Or did Allah make Iran Islamic??

One peculiar thing about Muslims is that they hold the notion "Islam will dominate the world", and the extreme ones will go to any limits, even suicide bombing themselves to see that that happens.. Just look at immigrants into London, who were pitied by the British government, they are now calling for sharia to be the order of the Land in London...

Islam is nothing but terrible!

Uthman, Osama, what about the Islamic leader that killed a writer for writing "the satanic verses" book, what about Muslims who went around killing people because Mohammed was displayed as a cartoon... That is how re.tarded Muslims can be, killing someone over a cartoon!!!!

If I should be the leader of any nation I'll see to it that the population of Muslims never gets much, because they have this notion.

When in few: We are the religion of peace, don't hate us.

When they are in moderate population: Sharia should be implemented.

When they are many: Islam or else...

If Islam is peaceful, why are it's followers violent?

Seriously, why do you guys keep turning in circles? Haven't I explained giving valid proofs from the Quran itself? It's left for you to bring your own proof from that same Quran to debunk it. It's all recorded.

Talking about history, where you there when it all happened? How are you so sure it's a lie? Because you hate Islam and don't care about the truth?

I don't see points arguing with you any more cause I can see you aren't interested in proofs or the truth. If you are tired of running in circles then maybe we can have a reasonable discussion. When I debate, I deal with facts and proofs not thoughts and opinions.

Keep hating but beware, hatred darkens the soul and blocks the heart.

halarho:
Pls if u are to object any opinion, sincerity and truthfulness matter most, some of you said Muhammad killed to call people on to the path of God without evidence...... U said Quran is fallible bring any fault in it....unlike your Bible where love letters are found there day to day.......be objective in you analysis

There are 'faults' in the quran.
A case in point – an example:
Sura 18:83-86 claims the sun sets in a spring or pool of muddy water.
Does the sun set in a pool of muddy water as claimed by the quran?