No member of the trinity is greater than the other because they are one



I have watched a lot of Christian being confused about the doctrine of trinity, to the extent of confusing others. So by the help of the Holy Spirit I’m writing this to help believers to understand and also be able to teach others. Enjoy and God bless you

The word (Jesus) came to the earth leaving His glory
He took the form of man
Even though He is God, He didn’t make Himself equal with God while on earth. Phili. 2:6-7
Being limited as man would, He relied on the Spirit. Luke 4:1
Being as man, He used the experiences like:
My father is greater than I am
I’m the son of God etc.
He humbled Himself. Phili. 2:8

Before His death He prayed to be united back to His glory. John 17:5

Being dead He resurrected with Spirit body (pneumatikon) Mark 16:14
It pleased the trinity to dwell in the Spirit body. Colo. 1:19
His name was lifted to become the name of the trinity (Jesus) that at the mention of it, all things both in heaven and on earth, even below the earth will bow. Phili. 2:10

Jesus announcing Himself as trinity unified, He said
“I am the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending saith the Lord, which is, and which was and which is to come, the mighty”. Rev. 1:8 also see Rev.22:13
Supported by Isaiah 9:6




Jesus said we should baptizing in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, = One God
Matt 28:19

No member of the trinity is greater than the other because they are one



There’s nothing like God the father, God the son and God the Holy Spirit which is = 3 gods, and it doesn’t have any bible backing
Second coming He will come in His glory, the spirit body (pneumatikon) Jesus resurrected with will be seen by all
Luke 21:27
At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

Pastor Earthkumy Eze
MEN AFTER GOD’S HEART

Do you think the whole Trinity dictrine would have any stand outside the letters of Paul?

Wilgrea7:
Do you think the whole Trinity dictrine would have any stand outside the letters of Paul?

Are you blind? didn't you see @bolded

Earthkumy:
No member of the trinity is greater than the other because they are one
I have watched a lot of Christian being confused about the doctrine of trinity, to the extent of confusing others. So by the help of the Holy Spirit I’m writing this to help believers to understand and also be able to teach others. Enjoy and God bless you

Wilgrea7:
Do you think the whole Trinity dictrine would have any stand outside the letters of Paul?

In the above Paul letters is 2 Philipians and Colosians

the gospels have all the 4 gospels
Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John

the book of Revelations, Acts
and the book of Isaiah Is there

God bless you

Earthkumy:


In the above Paul letters is 2 Philipians and Colosians

the gospels have all the 4 gospels
Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John

the book of Revelations, Acts
and the book of Isaiah Is there

God bless you

ok.... let's do it like this... quote only from the four gospels... matthew .. mark.. luke... John... leave out the old testament... the people who wrote it never believed in the Trinity.. leave out revelations.. I'm sceptical about it for reasons that will derail this thread... lets look at the view of the Trinity from the verses of the four gospels.. and we'll see which view has the majority.. shall we?

Wilgrea7:


ok.... let's do it like this... quote only from the four gospels... matthew .. mark.. luke... John... leave out the old testament... the people who wrote it never believed in the Trinity.. leave out revelations.. I'm sceptical about it for reasons that will derail this thread... lets look at the view of the Trinity from the verses of the four gospels.. and we'll see which view has the majority.. shall we?

Assuming you read the massage before posting you will see that this question is not necessary.
but for the sake of correction the doctrine of Trinity is from the book of Matthew 28:19
and John 1:1
and all the gospels recorded Jesus talking about the father, son and the spirit.

Jesus Christ is the best and only way

Earthkumy:


Assuming you read the massage before posting you will see that this question is not necessary.
but for the sake of correction the doctrine of Trinity is from the book of Matthew 28:19
and John 1:1
and all the gospels recorded Jesus talking about the father, son and the spirit.

verses you quoted are reasons people are led to believe the bible has been edited...
check matt 10:5... where Jesus told his disciples to go only to the lost sheep of Israel.... john 14:28 where he said his father is greater than he is... are you talking about John 1:1?... that's what an anonymous person said... although all we have are letters from anonymous authors, what do the anonymous authors say Jesus said about himself? why is the only hint to a Trinity in John and a contradictory statement in Matthew?

Wilgrea7:


verses you quoted are reasons people are led to believe the bible has been edited...
check matt 10:5... where Jesus told his disciples to go only to the lost sheep of Israel.... john 14:28 where he said his father is greater than he is... are you talking about John 1:1?... that's what an anonymous person said... although all we have are letters from anonymous authors, what do the anonymous authors say Jesus said about himself? why is the only hint to a Trinity in John and a contradictory statement in Matthew?

Isaiah 9:6 agrees with John 1:1
for John 14:28 I will refer you back to the post.
I guess your problem is that you are seeing the bible with the eyes of others.
if you allow the Holy Spirit to teach you, there will be no need for this argument. because the spirit of God will confirm the truth in you whenever you heard it.

Earthkumy:


Isaiah 9:6 agrees with John 1:1
for John 14:28 I will refer you back to the post.
I guess your problem is that you are seeing the bible with the eyes of others.
if you allow the Holy Spirit to teach you, there will be no need for this argument. because the spirit of God will confirm the truth in you whenever you heard it.

Isaiah 9:6? really?... its funny how the jews who use that book don't believe in a Trinity.. check out these links

http://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/can-you-give-a-reason-why-jews-say-isaiah-96-does-not-refer-to-jesus/

https://www.jesuswordsonly.com/books/359-isaiah-96-what-does-it-mean.html

Wilgrea7:


Isaiah 9:6? really?... its funny how the jews who use that book don't believe in a Trinity.. check out these links

http://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/can-you-give-a-reason-why-jews-say-isaiah-96-does-not-refer-to-jesus/

https://www.jesuswordsonly.com/books/359-isaiah-96-what-does-it-mean.html

I told you, you are arguing through the eyes of others, seek Jesus yourself there's alot more he is yet to reveal

Wilgrea7:


Isaiah 9:6? really?... its funny how the jews who use that book don't believe in a Trinity.. check out these links

http://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/can-you-give-a-reason-why-jews-say-isaiah-96-does-not-refer-to-jesus/

https://www.jesuswordsonly.com/books/359-isaiah-96-what-does-it-mean.html

if the Jews you mentioned believe in Jesus they would have been Christians by name. so I'm not surprised in their position,

Earthkumy:

I told you, you are arguing through the eyes of others, seek Jesus yourself there's alot more he is yet to reveal

this statement is invalid.. you want me to seek your version of Jesus... why don't you seek mine?

Earthkumy:
if the Jews you mentioned believe in Jesus they would have been Christians by name. so I'm not surprised in their position,

let me burst your bubble a little.. the majority of Jews accept Jesus as a great teacher.. not being equal with God... many people accept that Jesus is divine.. but reject the view that his divinity makes him equal with God..

If our Lord Jesus is d same as God, pls explain Rev 3:12. Does God have a God? Also Rev 3:21. D person Christ will grant to sit on His throne, is dat person equal to Christ?

adelee777:
If our Lord Jesus is d same as God, pls explain Rev 3:12. Does God have a God? Also Rev 3:21. D person Christ will grant to sit on His throne, is dat person equal to Christ?

You shld also note dat Christ made d above statements AFTER He went back to heaven. Also, Stephen saw a vision of heaven n saw 2 Persons; Jesus on the RIGHT HAND of God. So, pls explain.

Wilgrea7:


this statement is invalid.. you want me to seek your version of Jesus... why don't you seek mine?



let me burst your bubble a little.. the majority of Jews accept Jesus as a great teacher.. not being equal with God... many people accept that Jesus is divine.. but reject the view that his divinity makes him equal with God..

for your mind what you said now is bursting bubble?
Is not a new view OK and many Christians hold the same view
everyone speaks according to the level of revelation they have
like Peter said Paul spoke according the level of knowledge God gave him

adelee777:
If our Lord Jesus is d same as God, pls explain Rev 3:12. Does God have a God? Also Rev 3:21. D person Christ will grant to sit on His throne, is dat person equal to Christ?

go back to the post and take the verses one by one and you will understand why Jesus made some statements ok

Earthkumy:

for your mind what you said now is bursting bubble?
Is not a new view OK and many Christians hold the same view
everyone speaks according to the level of revelation they have
like Peter said Paul spoke according the level of knowledge God gave him

forget this Peter Paul stuff.. you've not buttressed my point.. you're just hiding under the “you need the holy spirit to teach you" excuse... i might as well claim that you need the holy spirit to teach you before you understand... from your recent comments I'm guessing you don't have a rebuttal to my posts.. have a nice day

Wilgrea7:


forget this Peter Paul stuff.. you've not buttressed my point.. you're just hiding under the “you need the holy spirit to teach you" excuse... i might as well claim that you need the holy spirit to teach you before you understand... from your recent comments I'm guessing you don't have a rebuttal to my posts.. have a nice day

you actually do not have point, because if you actually believe the Bible is the word of God you will believe every bit of it. Not this your hiding on what Jewish article wrote or chose to believe some and argue the rest.
you asked where it is writing in the scripture I showed you. then you started claiming the bible was edited

Earthkumy:

I told you, you are arguing through the eyes of others, seek Jesus yourself there's alot more he is yet to reveal

Jews dont believe in Trinity, YET all those who penned the Bible are Jews ... Hahahahaha how then can Trinity be in the bible ?


its either you are reading nonsense into the texts

Peacefullove:


Jews dont believe in Trinity, YET all those who penned the Bible are Jews ... Hahahahaha how then can Trinity be in the bible ?


its either you are reading nonsense into the texts

the Jew don't even believe that Christ has come. note that many Israelites are Christians now and believes in Trinity. if the Jews believe in Jesus they won't be Jews anymore OK.

Earthkumy:

go back to the post and take the verses one by one and you will understand why Jesus made some statements ok

What will you say , because he was human ( I guess he was born by sexual intercourse right ?) ... am suprised how a so called God could be limited by human weakness. are you telling me He is not perfect as human ?

Earthkumy:
the Jew don't even believe that Christ has come. note that many Israelites are Christians now and believes in Trinity. if the Jews believe in Jesus they won't be Jews anymore OK.

When Yeshua asked " Who do you say I am ?" ... what was the response of Peter ( A Jewish Christian) ? tell me

Wilgrea7:
Do you think the whole Trinity dictrine would have any stand outside the letters of Paul?

Yes sir it does
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 1 John 5:7
Tell me this I'd written by Paul
Mathew 28: 19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Is this also written by Paul?

Please do a good reading before writing here

Earthkumy:
No member of the trinity is greater than the other because they are one




I have watched a lot of Christian being confused about the doctrine of trinity, to the extent of confusing others. So by the help of the Holy Spirit I’m writing this to help believers to understand and also be able to teach others. Enjoy and God bless you

The bold is really hilarious, Yeshua himself said Father is Greater than I , Was he telling lies?

Paul wrote that Father is Greater ( The Head ) of Christ , Was he telling lie ?

Peacefullove:


The bold is really hilarious, Yeshua himself said Father is Greater than I , Was he telling lies?

Paul wrote that Father is Greater ( The Head ) of Christ , Was he telling lie ?

take your time and read the post thanks

Earthkumy:
take your time and the post thanks

I have, I only need you to tell me if both that I mentioned are telling lies , or misleading the public ?

Peacefullove:


I have, I only need you to tell me if both that I mentioned are telling lies , or misleading the public ?

read the post and the bible verses and try again

Earthkumy:
read the post and the bible verses and try again

Father is greater than I - Yeshua. nothing can change that Beautiful statement that expose this scam thread

Peacefullove:




Father is greater than I - Yeshua. nothing can change that Beautiful statement that expose this scam thread

God bless you

Earthkumy:
The word (Jesus) came to the earth leaving His glory
He took the form of man
Even though He is God, He didn’t make Himself equal with God while on earth. Phili. 2:6-7
Being limited as man would, He relied on the Spirit. Luke 4:1
Being as man, He used the experiences like:
My father is greater than I am
I’m the son of God etc.
He humbled Himself. Phili. 2:8

Before His death He prayed to be united back to His glory. John 17:5

Being dead He resurrected with Spirit body (pneumatikon) Mark 16:14
It pleased the trinity to dwell in the Spirit body. Colo. 1:19
His name was lifted to become the name of the trinity (Jesus) that at the mention of it, all things both in heaven and on earth, even below the earth will bow. Phili. 2:10

Jesus announcing Himself as trinity unified, He said
“I am the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending saith the Lord, which is, and which was and which is to come, the mighty”. Rev. 1:8 also see Rev.22:13
Supported by Isaiah 9:6




Jesus said we should baptizing in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, = One God
Matt 28:19

No member of the trinity is greater than the other because they are one



There’s nothing like God the father, God the son and God the Holy Spirit which is = 3 gods, and it doesn’t have any bible backing
Second coming He will come in His glory, the spirit body (pneumatikon) Jesus resurrected with will be seen by all
Luke 21:27
At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

Pastor Earthkumy Eze
MEN AFTER GOD’S HEART

No part of this post address Or could address John 14 vs 28 where Yeshua said Father is Greater than I , Infact No part of this post could , nor address The place where Paul attest that Father is Greater ( The Head ) of Christ .