No for real guys atheism is too dismissive
I still think religion is bullshit but to rule out the possibility of a higher force or something that we have yet to understand is just total bull man
"I don't know but is certainly can't be a celestial being" is already contradictory. If you don't know how would you then know it's not a celestial being( note I'm not using religious representations of a diety cuz they are still shit as usual. I know some atheists don't think this way anyway but to the ones that read Lawrence Krauss book trying to explain how the universe came out of nothing or pseudo -philosopher Richard Dawkins( I have a lot of respect for the man btw but he sucks balls at philosophical arguments ) and start using them as your creed then you need to change that herd mentality cuz you aren't in any war better then the sheeple religious people you criticise. These constant daily arguments between athiests and thiests are pointless because in the end no one is changing sides. You can get along fine with religious people. I mean I know some can be judgemental and all but you still meet a lot of good honest religious people. And it is a useful tool imagine a world without religion. How would you tell the average Nigerian market woman who is a single mom working 9 to 5 shifts so her children can at least get an education in a shitty country like this that there is no God . I wouldn't see anything wrong with a lot of christians going on a murderous rampage to execute all the Sunni and shite Muslims in the country if they find out religion is a lie
In the end I think all I'm trying to say is live and let live. If this was the mantra of humanity the world would be a better place than it is now.

Agnosticism

jonbellion:
Agnosticism

seun ur fellow soldier at ard is now thinking properly again

To the Muslim, you're still an infidel

To the Christian, you're still a heathen

To the Jew, you remain a Goyim

On a serious note though, we're still in pretty much the same camp. As far as the Abrahamic deity goes, you remain an atheist. Agnostic atheism is still atheism. I respect your decision, anyways. When I opened the thread, I was expecting to read something else. That's quite a surprise, since this isn't a significant change.

There are few atheists who dismiss the possibility of a supreme being, though. The stand of most atheists is that there's no evidence. Or have you ever made this statement before, "Although I don't know, it certainly can't be a celestial being"?

Agnostic Atheism?

LightandDarkness:
Agnostic Atheism?

do we really need labels?
I am a human!

I thought you were agnostic anyway

lepasharon:
I thought you were agnostic anyway

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lepasharon:
I thought you were agnostic anyway

lol
I am only agnostic

Zandha:


To the Muslim, you're still an infidel

To the Christian, you're still a heathen

To the Jew, you remain a Goyim

On a serious note though, we're still in pretty much the same camp. As far as the Abrahamic deity goes, you remain an atheist. Agnostic atheism is still atheism. I respect your decision, anyways. When I opened the thread, I was expecting to read something else. That's quite a surprise, since this isn't a significant change.

There are few atheists who dismiss the possibility of a supreme being, though. The stand of most atheists is that there's no evidence. Or have you ever made this statement before, "Although I don't know, it certainly can't be a celestial being"?

well too me they remain unenlightened
But hey that's why variety is the spice of life

jonbellion:
lol
I am only agnostic

So you renounce being an agnostic atheist?

I'm an Atheist with an open Mind

jonbellion:
do we really need labels?
I am a human!

First step but you are still unsaved.

Repent and accept Jesus or fire awaits you in eternity!

Choose well.

jonbellion:
No for real guys atheism is too dismissive
I still think religion is bullshit but to rule out the possibility of a higher force or something that we have yet to understand is just total bull man
"I don't know but is certainly can't be a celestial being" is already contradictory. If you don't know how would you then know it's not a celestial being( note I'm not using religious representations of a diety cuz they are still shit as usual. I know some atheists don't think this way anyway but to the ones that read Lawrence Krauss book trying to explain how the universe came out of nothing or pseudo -philosopher Richard Dawkins( I have a lot of respect for the man btw but he sucks balls at philosophical arguments ) and start using them as your creed then you need to change that herd mentality cuz you aren't in any war better then the sheeple religious people you criticise. These constant daily arguments between athiests and thiests are pointless because in the end no one is changing sides. You can get along fine with religious people. I mean I know some can be judgemental and all but you still meet a lot of good honest religious people. And it is a useful tool imagine a world without religion. How would you tell the average Nigerian market woman who is a single mom working 9 to 5 shifts so her children can at least get an education in a shitty country like this that there is no God . I wouldn't see anything wrong with a lot of christians going on a murderous rampage to execute all the Sunni and shite Muslims in the country if they find out religion is a lie
In the end I think all I'm trying to say is live and let live. If this was the mantra of humanity the world would be a better place than it is now.

So you now choose to be an agnostic. In other words from being an atheist you now believe there is "some Kind of God" but nobody can really know His nature or kind of existence.

You are just one more step away from the truth. I was an atheist (of some sort) earlier in my life. Well I was not a God lover or even remotely interested in anything about him until He melted my heart and won me over the very first time I actually chose to listen to His word through my colleague.

Why not make a true and definitive move rather than still sitting on the fence. I did that and I am better for it.

Hello and good evening to you.

jonbellion:
do we really need labels?
I am a human!

True I don't think we do. I have come to realise debates about religious most of the time are pointless, sometimes you learn a lot, other times it's just a back and forth of usually the same ideas....Anyway, does this mean your belief in the existence of a god/creator is "stronger" now than previously? What brought about this change?

I am very happy for you op, you don't need religion, what you need is a personal relationship with God.

God exist and Jesus has made Him known to us.

mrmrmister:
I'm an Atheist with an open Mind

of course, and we have married Barchelors

KingEbukasBlog:


of course, and we have married Barchelors

And people who believe in talking snakes are sane

A personal relationship with yourself is vital. Religion teaches you to worship God, Atheism tells you there isn't a God, but the question both fail to ask is "Who am I ?" A careful understanding of yourself will point you to a beautiful direction. Know yourself is the key to life itself. Religion says it's all about God, but who exactly is God? God is no other person but yourself. the term " God" will never go away until humans understand it's true meaning.

Unfortunately, a lot of Atheists on nairaland themselves bunch of brainwashed thugs who base their beliefs on 18th centuries science books. They are themselves indoctrinated by primitive science

ifenes:
A personal relationship with yourself is vital. Religion teaches you to worship God, Atheism tells you there isn't a God, but the question both fail to ask is "Who am I ?" A careful understanding of yourself will point you to a beautiful direction. Know yourself is the key to life itself. Religion says it's all about God, but who exactly is God? God is no other person but yourself. the term " God" will never go away until humans understand it's true meaning.

I love this comment.

@Op, it is good you are switching belief. However, there will come to a point in your life when you will stop switching and stay on onr thing-yourself. When you start studying yourself, you have discovered God. God is not a sky daddy. God is you and me in manifestation.

I am a god(a very conscious part of GOD) and I have the power to cage and uncage some bad gods who have caged the brains of my people.

jonbellion:
No for real guys atheism is too dismissive
I still think religion is bullshit but to rule out the possibility of a higher force or something that we have yet to understand is just total bull man
"I don't know but is certainly can't be a celestial being" is already contradictory. If you don't know how would you then know it's not a celestial being( note I'm not using religious representations of a diety cuz they are still shit as usual. I know some atheists don't think this way anyway but to the ones that read Lawrence Krauss book trying to explain how the universe came out of nothing or pseudo -philosopher Richard Dawkins( I have a lot of respect for the man btw but he sucks balls at philosophical arguments ) and start using them as your creed then you need to change that herd mentality cuz you aren't in any war better then the sheeple religious people you criticise. These constant daily arguments between athiests and thiests are pointless because in the end no one is changing sides. You can get along fine with religious people. I mean I know some can be judgemental and all but you still meet a lot of good honest religious people. And it is a useful tool imagine a world without religion. How would you tell the average Nigerian market woman who is a single mom working 9 to 5 shifts so her children can at least get an education in a shitty country like this that there is no God . I wouldn't see anything wrong with a lot of christians going on a murderous rampage to execute all the Sunni and shite Muslims in the country if they find out religion is a lie
In the end I think all I'm trying to say is live and let live. If this was the mantra of humanity the world would be a better place than it is now.

so what do you conclude? are you willing to become religious? If not my brother, I will you should be a Christian. It' not just religion sake but salvation sake. Are u willing? It's a choice. Thank God a part of darkness is unveiled....

Why atheist are far better is that,,,,

No atheist here has said "JONBELLION was never an atheist".

Supposing he switched from Christianity to ATHEISM OR AGNOSTISM, likes of Ebuka & co would have been chanting "ALTERNATE IDs"

Lol

KingEbukasBlog:

of course, and we have married Barchelors

And we have a descendant of Noah

KingEbukasBlog:


of course, and we have married Barchelors

It's Bachelors.




BTW sarcasm isn't your forte.

Aaronsrod:


First step but you are still unsaved.

Repent and accept Jesus or fire awaits you in eternity!

Choose well.

Listen to this guy.


Else everlasting fire awaits you.

Btw, how does one renounce atheism? Lots of bleeped up minds here. Find who you are before finding labels. Renounce atheism my arse..

I was expecting something​ really different . Agnostic atheists (forming majority of Nairaland atheists) are still regarded as atheists on Nairaland, even Christians that are sincere like Wilgrea are quickly tagged atheists! Any counter opinion without a hint of Islam, gbam you are tagged atheist!

sonofluc1fer:
Btw, how does one renounce atheism? Lots of bleeped up minds here. Find who you are before finding labels. Renounce atheism my arse..

lol

kevoh:
I was expecting something​ really different . Agnostic atheists (forming majority of Nairaland atheists) are still regarded as atheists on Nairaland, even Christians that are sincere like Wilgrea are quickly tagged atheists! Any counter opinion without a hint of Islam, gbam you are tagged atheist!

He's confused, I think. His head says 'no God' , his mind says 'could be'.

mrmrmister:
I'm an Atheist with an open Mind

Isn't this contradictory. You're an atheist but you believe there might be God?