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Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by factwriter(m): 11:42pm On Jul 09, 2017
1. Leo Tolstoy (1828-1910):
"Islam will rule the world one day, because in it there is a combination of knowledge and wisdom".


2. Herbert Wells (1846-1946):
"Until the effectiveness of Islam again, how many generations will suffer atrocities and life will be cut off, then one day the whole world will be attracted to it, on that day there will be Dilshad and on that day the world will be inhabited.


3. Albert Einstein (1879-1955):
"I understand that the Muslims did it through their own intelligence and awareness which the Jews could not do. In Islam it is the power that can lead to peace".


4. Huston Smith (1919):
"The faith which is upon us and this is better than us in the world, then it is Islam. If we open our hearts and minds for it, then it will be good for us".


5. Michael Nostradamus (1503-1566):
"Islam will be the ruling religion in Europe, but the famous city of Europe will become the Islamic State capital."


6. Bertrand Russell (1872-1970):
"I read Islam and realized that it is to be the religion of all the world and all humanity." Islam will spread throughout Europe and in Europe the big thinkers of Islam will emerge. One day it will come that Islam will be the real stimulus of the world. ".

7. Gosta Lobon (1841-1931):
"Islam only talks about peace and reconciliation. Invite Christians to appreciate the faith of reform."


8. Bernard Shaw (1856-1950):
"The whole world will accept Islam religion one day and if it can not even accept the real name, it will accept it by the name of metaphor." West will accept Islam one day and Islam will be the religion of those who have studied in the world. "


9. Johann Geith (1749-1832):
"We all have to accept Islam religion sooner or later. This is the real religion. If am called a Muslim, I will not feel bad, I accept this right thing."


Source: (As forwarded to me via whatsapp)
Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by Ezigboune: 11:44pm On Jul 09, 2017
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Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by factwriter(m): 11:45pm On Jul 09, 2017
For any knowledge yarning individual these testimonies isn't hard to verify. Thanks to the internet (in general) and search engines (in particular).
Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by factwriter(m): 11:47pm On Jul 09, 2017
Ezigboune:
lipsrsealed

Are you booking Space
Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by toffy333(m): 12:09am On Jul 10, 2017
Alhamdullilah!
Glory be to he the creator of mankind

May the peace and the blessing of Allah be upon he the messagenger of Allah (MUHAMMAD)
Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by impossible27(m): 3:35am On Jul 10, 2017
These were not quote man. they are predictions. and predictions are guess works that are either to be successful in future or fail.
factwriter:

1. Leo Tolstoy (1828-1910):
"Islam will rule the world one day, because in it there is a combination of knowledge and wisdom".
This statement or will I say prophecy is already a failed one. this is because of one important reason which is this: Islam doesn't change as the world changes This u already know that 90% of Islamic practice are medival age practice which they are still adopting on this information age. I don't need to remind u of beliefs and ideology which doesn't change as the world changes ends up, THEY GO INTO EXTINCTION WITH TIME. this can be confirmed by the millions of ex Muslims around the world because of information.

Secondly remember Islam don't spread by swords anymore as it is on the medival age. this is a civilized world now and Islam only depend on convincing like other religion. even the birth method is diminishing because people nowadays people resach on their believes and if they are not satisfied they find other beliefs that suit them. that why we have many Arabs that is non Muslims in millions.

So your questions should be this.
with the way the world is changing and becoming civilized than ever as time passes and the stagnant practice or unchanged medical Islamic practice, will Islam still rule the world or will it go to extinction?
what will be the fath of Islam in 30 century, 50 century, 100 century or even 200 century to come??

pounder on it op.

2. Herbert Wells (1846-1946):
"Until the effectiveness of Islam again, how many generations will suffer atrocities and life will be cut off, then one day the whole world will be attracted to it, on that day there will be Dilshad and on that day the world will be inhabited.
I will say the prediction of this one is happening. but he didn't know that the suffering and atrocity are now caused by Muslims who think they can still spread the religion by sward. so how the people will be attracted to it when they have information at their fingertips still keeps me wondering.


3. Albert Einstein (1879-1955):
"I understand that the Muslims did it through their own intelligence and awareness which the Jews could not do. In Islam it is the power that can lead to peace".
This is not the first time I am hearing the bolded.
maybe Albert Einstein should be alive to see Islamic countries who depends on Quran as their constitution, that supposed to be the most peaceful countries are busy treathening and waging war on weaker countries eg Saudi and Yemen.


4. Huston Smith (1919):
"The faith which is upon us and this is better than us in the world, then it is Islam. If we open our hearts and minds for it, then it will be good for us".
Sorry. all religion. I mean all religion preaches the same thing. "Show me the most righteous and peaceful religion the world has ever seen, and I will show you the damage it has caused to both human and the world at large" (my quote grin ). all religion has bad flaws


5. Michael Nostradamus (1503-1566):
"Islam will be the ruling religion in Europe, but the famous city of Europe will become the Islamic State capital."
Yea they have tried it once using sward but thanks to crusaders that chased them back with their camels.


6. Bertrand Russell (1872-1970):
"I read Islam and realized that it is to be the religion of all the world and all humanity." Islam will spread throughout Europe and in Europe the big thinkers of Islam will emerge. One day it will come that Islam will be the real stimulus of the world. ".
Guys. isn't this one funny. what has Islam invented maybe I might witness the day @ bolded

7. Gosta Lobon (1841-1931):
"Islam only talks about peace and reconciliation. Invite Christians to appreciate the faith of reform."
Hmm. they are really talking about peace and reconciliation indeed. not my first time to hear that.


8. Bernard Shaw (1856-1950):
"The whole world will accept Islam religion one day and if it can not even accept the real name, it will accept it by the name of metaphor." West will accept Islam one day and Islam will be the religion of those who have studied in the world. "


9. Johann Geith (1749-1832):
"We all have to accept Islam religion sooner or later. This is the real religion. If am called a Muslim, I will not feel bad, I accept this right thing."
( read number 1 for these two so-called quote).

One thing I thank God is for him to bring me into the world that is enlightened, civilized and has information as it ultimate power not the stone age where u have to believe farytales from a human.

One thing u all have to understand is this.
1. all religion believe in supreme beings.
2. all religion teach morals.
3. all religion are peaceful.
4 . religion (majority mostly) has bad flaws and has caused big damage on humanity and the world.

So if u are saying your religion is the most peaceful, that where u fail it.

advice: Muslims should pressure their scholars to reform those medival practices and they should change as the world changes.
Christian should avoid hate speech against Muslims. not good.

shalom.


Source: (As forwarded to me via whatsapp)[/quote]

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Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by factwriter(m): 4:02pm On Jul 10, 2017
impossible27:
These were not quote man. they are predictions. and predictions are guess works that are either to be successful in future or fail.

This statement or will I say prophecy is already a failed one. this is because of one important reason which is this: Islam doesn't change as the world changes This u already know that 90% of Islamic practice are medival age practice which they are still adopting on this information age. I don't need to remind u of beliefs and ideology which doesn't change as the world changes ends up, THEY GO INTO EXTINCTION WITH TIME. this can be confirmed by the millions of ex Muslims around the world because of information.

Secondly remember Islam don't spread by swords anymore as it is on the medival age. this is a civilized world now and Islam only depend on convincing like other religion. even the birth method is diminishing because people nowadays people resach on their believes and if they are not satisfied they find other beliefs that suit them. that why we have many Arabs that is non Muslims in millions.

So your questions should be this.
with the way the world is changing and becoming civilized than ever as time passes and the stagnant practice or unchanged medical Islamic practice, will Islam still rule the world or will it go to extinction?
what will be the fath of Islam in 30 century, 50 century, 100 century or even 200 century to come??

pounder on it op.


I will say the prediction of this one is happening. but he didn't know that the suffering and atrocity are now caused by Muslims who think they can still spread the religion by sward. so how the people will be attracted to it when they have information at their fingertips still keeps me wondering.



This is not the first time I am hearing the bolded.
maybe Albert Einstein should be alive to see Islamic countries who depends on Quran as their constitution, that supposed to be the most peaceful countries are busy treathening and waging war on weaker countries eg Saudi and Yemen.



Sorry. all religion. I mean all religion preaches the same thing. "Show me the most righteous and peaceful religion the world has ever seen, and I will show you the damage it has caused to both human and the world at large" (my quote grin ). all religion has bad flaws



Yea they have tried it once using sward but thanks to crusaders that chased them back with their camels.



Guys. isn't this one funny. what has Islam invented maybe I might witness the day @ bolded


Hmm. they are really talking about peace and reconciliation indeed. not my first time to hear that.



( read number 1 for these two so-called quote).

One thing I thank God is for him to bring me into the world that is enlightened, civilized and has information as it ultimate power not the stone age where u have to believe farytales from a human.

One thing u all have to understand is this.
1. all religion believe in supreme beings.
2. all religion teach morals.
3. all religion are peaceful.
4 . religion (majority mostly) has bad flaws and has caused big damage on humanity and the world.

So if u are saying your religion is the most peaceful, that where u fail it.

advice: Muslims should pressure their scholars to reform those medival practices and they should change as the world changes.
Christian should avoid hate speech against Muslims. not good.

shalom.


Source: (As forwarded to me via whatsapp)



I really don't know what to make of your rants (Yes. rants! cause that is what they are).

I googled your moniker hoping it will relate to something significant, no matter how obscure or minute. At least something relevant about your existence that may validate your audacity to "voice over" words of Men whose names have been etched into memorial rocks of history.

Honestly I tried to give you a face, no matter how contoured or frankistiened, your personality just would not match anything and only fits into nothingness. Alas I realised all you are is simply someone doing "workout" with their mouth instead of brain; or at least your physics.

The trash you posted lack anything "technically countering" and only oozes of inferiority complexes typical of those brought up without any meaningful religious inculcation or spiritual influences.

I have sat with people from homes where Daddy was a "Rolling Stone" and Mommy never ceased to be the "neighborhood lay".

Families (if they can really be called one) where the only anthem you will ever hear from them on a daily basis was always what, where and how life failed them in this or at that.

A home (I mean an edifice) where the tenacity to believe in, trust and worship the supreme being, were spiritual luxury they could not afford. Not even as followers of a religion whose drawn-line between moral and secular existence is (encouragingly) thin. This people i describe begets a generation of spiritually bankrupt people.

Product of such lineage don't freak me when they come aboard social platforms as this and begin to spill baseless argument that lack hypothetical backings or even at least, simple logical reasoning.

Not even when such people try to mask their true atheism by practising (passive) Christianity in public since the latter faith is more adaptive for hypocrites than Islam which, unequivocally maintain "clear cut" rulings on matters of existentialism.

As a Muslim i still wouldn't give these hypocrites up-to 1% of whatever respect and regard I have for my Christian friends.

You know why? Cause they are losers.

Have a great evening.
Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by factwriter(m): 4:24pm On Jul 10, 2017
impossible27:







Okay Mister, now try see if you can digest this... intellectually that is.




Prophet Mohammad said this 1400
Years ago! (Fourteen Centuries ago)



Camels will no longer be used as a means
of transport;

People will ride on saddles that aren't saddles
(cars?)

The distance on earth will become short; (Global village made as a result Telecom tech?)

Horses will not be used in wars;

Muslims will defeat the Byzantines which will end with the conquest of Constantinople - (Istanbul);

The Jews will gather again to live in Bilad
Canaan;

Very tall buildings will be built; (see Dubai, Singapore, New York etc)

The disappearance of knowledge and the
appearance of ignorance, with much killing;

Adultery will become widespread, and the drinking of wine will become common;

The number of men will decrease and the number of women will increase until there are 50 women to be looked after by one man. (check UN statistics 2007)

Islam will become worn out like clothes are, until no one will know what fasting, prayer, charity and rituals are;

Allah will send a disease to fornicators that will have no cure (Aids?);

People will begin to believe in the stars and
reject AL QADAR (THE DIVINE DECREE OF DESTINY);

Men will pass by people's graves and say: 'Would that I were in his place'; (large amount of suicidal deaths?)

The Euphrates will uncover a mountain of gold for which people will fight over (the river of Al furat that lies near Syria );

Two large groups of people will fight one
another, and there will be many casualties;
they will both be following the same religion (World War II?);

Approximately 30 DAJJALS will appear, each one claiming to be the messenger of ALLAH;

Earthquakes will increase;

Time will pass quickly;

Afflictions will appear;

Killing will increase;

Wealth will increase; (ask Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Dangote)

Women will be wearing clothes but not
wearing clothes ()

THE PROPHET (saw) SAID: 'IF MY UMMAH
BEARS 15 TRAITS (QUALITIES),
TRIBULATION WILL FOLLOW IT.'
(ON DAY OF JUDGEMENT)

SOMEONE ASKED, 'WHAT ARE THEY O
MESSENGER OF ALL AH?' HE (saw)
SAID:

When any gain is shared out only among the rich, with no benefit to the poor;

When a trust becomes a means of making profit;

When paying ZAKKAT becomes a burden;

When voices are raised in the mosque;

When the leader of a people is the worst of
them, when people treat a man with respect because what he may do;

When much wine is drunk;

red wind or the earth swallow them, or to be
transformed into animals.'


'IMRAN IBN HUSAYN SAID:
'THE PROPHET
(ASW) SAID,
'SOME PEOPLE OF THIS UMMAH WILL BE
SWALLOWED BY THE EARTH, TRANSFORMED INTO ANIMALS, AND SOME WILL BE BOMBARDED WITH STONES'.

ONE OF THE MUSLIMS ASKED, WHEN WILL THAT BE O
MESSENGER Of ALLAH?''
HE SAID,

'WHEN SINGERS AND MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS WILL BECOME POPULAR, AND MUCH WINE IS DRUNK.''

THE GREATER SIGNS OF THE HOUR: The Quran will disappear in one night, even from the people's hearts, and no Ayah will be left on earth.

(Some groups of old people will be left who will say: 'We heard of fathers' saying...

'LAILLAHA ILLA ALLAH' so we repeat it);

The appearance of the MAHDI;

The appearance of the DAJJAL (Anti Christ);

The appearance of Ya'juj and Ma'juj(biblical Gog and Magog);

Isa (Jesus) will come during the time of Dajjal;

The rising of the sun from the west;
The destruction of the Ka'aba and the recovery of its treasures; the smoke.


As you look at this article you realize how true the Messenger (P.B.U.H) was, these signs were prophesied 1400 years ago!!!





Peace, am out.
Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by jcross19: 4:31pm On Jul 10, 2017
factwriter:

1. Leo Tolstoy (1828-1910):
"Islam will rule the world one day, because in it there is a combination of knowledge and wisdom".


2. Herbert Wells (1846-1946):
"Until the effectiveness of Islam again, how many generations will suffer atrocities and life will be cut off, then one day the whole world will be attracted to it, on that day there will be Dilshad and on that day the world will be inhabited.


3. Albert Einstein (1879-1955):
"I understand that the Muslims did it through their own intelligence and awareness which the Jews could not do. In Islam it is the power that can lead to peace".


4. Huston Smith (1919):
"The faith which is upon us and this is better than us in the world, then it is Islam. If we open our hearts and minds for it, then it will be good for us".


5. Michael Nostradamus (1503-1566):
"Islam will be the ruling religion in Europe, but the famous city of Europe will become the Islamic State capital."


6. Bertrand Russell (1872-1970):
"I read Islam and realized that it is to be the religion of all the world and all humanity." Islam will spread throughout Europe and in Europe the big thinkers of Islam will emerge. One day it will come that Islam will be the real stimulus of the world. ".

7. Gosta Lobon (1841-1931):
"Islam only talks about peace and reconciliation. Invite Christians to appreciate the faith of reform."


8. Bernard Shaw (1856-1950):
"The whole world will accept Islam religion one day and if it can not even accept the real name, it will accept it by the name of metaphor." West will accept Islam one day and Islam will be the religion of those who have studied in the world. "


9. Johann Geith (1749-1832):
"We all have to accept Islam religion sooner or later. This is the real religion. If am called a Muslim, I will not feel bad, I accept this right thing."


Source: (As forwarded to me via whatsapp)
muslim will not stop to amuse me ah!!!!!! What did quoted add to the islam? Thank God some countries are getting to know the wickedness of this evil religion.

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Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by factwriter(m): 6:06pm On Jul 10, 2017
jcross19:
muslim will not stop to amuse me ah!!!!!! What did quoted add to the islam? Thank God some countries are getting to know the wickedness of this evil religion.


Always retorting to dry humour once cornered beyond extraction. I can imagine how high your jubilation would have been had the "quotes" of these highly rated historical icons been intended as a slander upon Islam. But ney, your (concealed) disappointment knows no bounds...

Do you know why bestseller authors don't worry about piracy much? Because for any intellectual material to be (considered profitable when) pirated, it must have made remarkable sales on the legitimate shelves.

This simple logical reasoning satisfy my curiosity as to why you all (infidels) put your whole life on hold just to concern yourselves with the growth and might of the religion of peace, Islam..., because it's spiritually legit and selling fast.

Try harder next time and see if you will find other "staggering facts" amusing or debilitating.


#saynotoselfillusion.
Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by lfleak: 6:29pm On Jul 10, 2017
Good job..
And to the guy who says Islam is medieval...

Do you know what religion means..?
And to atheist... My sig
Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by impossible27(m): 6:40pm On Jul 10, 2017
factwriter:




I really don't know what to make of your rants (Yes. rants! cause that is what they are).

I googled your moniker hoping it will relate to something significant, no matter how obscure or minute. At least something relevant about your existence that may validate your audacity to "voice over" words of Men whose names have been etched into memorial rocks of history.

Honestly I tried to give you a face, no matter how contoured or frankistiened, your personality just would not match anything and only fits into nothingness. Alas I realised all you are is simply someone doing "workout" with their mouth instead of brain; or at least your physics.

The trash you posted lack anything "technically countering" and only oozes of inferiority complexes typical of those brought up without any meaningful religious inculcation or spiritual influences.

I have sat with people from homes where Daddy was a "Rolling Stone" and Mommy never ceased to be the "neighborhood lay".

Families (if they can really be called one) where the only anthem you will ever hear from them on a daily basis was always what, where and how life failed them in this or at that.

A home (I mean an edifice) where the tenacity to believe in, trust and worship the supreme being, was spiritual luxury they could not afford. Not even as followers of a religion whose drawn-line between moral and secular existence is (encouragingly) thin. A generation of spiritually bankrupt people.

Product of such lineage don't freak me when they come aboard social platforms as this and begin to spill baseless argument that lack hypothetical backings or even at least, simple logical reasoning. Not even when such people try to mask their true atheism by practising (passive) Christianity in public. As a Muslim I still wouldn't give them 1% of whatever respect and regard I have for my Christian friends.

You know why? Cause they are losers.

Have a great evening.


Yea, yea yea. not surprised though. calling my post rants and even using it to know who i am: inferiolity cimplex, nothingness, bla bla bla. it dosen't move me an inch because i know who i am. so it up to u to grade me but i dont give a hoot because i dont know u. and I don't care to know.

Secondly this world has improve so greatly that everyone is entitled to his or her opinion. this is not the errah where opinions are forced down on someone with a sward on his throat, no, we have past that errah. which means if you dont like the facts i stated earlier and resarch to know if it true or lies, you throw it to the trash. it dosnt spoil my day.

I like every other humans ( except illiterate) do research thing or opinion said by someone. All thanks to the internet which makes info our ultimate power at our fingertip.

This is not the medival age man. this is the infomation age. and guess what age will be next?

By the way. I am a Christian (Catholic). I wasn't born in the religion. I researched it before putting my faith there.

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Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by impossible27(m): 6:55pm On Jul 10, 2017
factwriter:








Okay Mister, now try see if you can digest this... intellectually that is.




Prophet Mohammad said this 1400
Years ago! (Fourteen Centuries ago)



Camels will no longer be used as a means
of transport;

People will ride on saddles that aren't saddles
(cars?)

The distance on earth will become short; (Global village made as a result Telecom tech?)

Horses will not be used in wars;

Muslims will defeat the Byzantines which will end with the conquest of Constantinople - (Istanbul);

The Jews will gather again to live in Bilad
Canaan;

Very tall buildings will be built; (see Dubai, Singapore, New York etc)

The disappearance of knowledge and the
appearance of ignorance, with much killing;

Adultery will become widespread, and the drinking of wine will become common;

The number of men will decrease and the number of women will increase until there are 50 women to be looked after by one man. (check UN statistics 2007)

Islam will become worn out like clothes are, until no one will know what fasting, prayer, charity and rituals are;

Allah will send a disease to fornicators that will have no cure (Aids?);

People will begin to believe in the stars and
reject AL QADAR (THE DIVINE DECREE OF DESTINY);

Men will pass by people's graves and say: 'Would that I were in his place'; (large amount of suicidal deaths?)

The Euphrates will uncover a mountain of gold for which people will fight over (the river of Al furat that lies near Syria );

Two large groups of people will fight one
another, and there will be many casualties;
they will both be following the same religion (World War II?);

Approximately 30 DAJJALS will appear, each one claiming to be the messenger of ALLAH;

Earthquakes will increase;

Time will pass quickly;

Afflictions will appear;

Killing will increase;

Wealth will increase; (ask Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Dangote)

Women will be wearing clothes but not
wearing clothes ()

THE PROPHET (saw) SAID: 'IF MY UMMAH
BEARS 15 TRAITS (QUALITIES),
TRIBULATION WILL FOLLOW IT.'
(ON DAY OF JUDGEMENT)

SOMEONE ASKED, 'WHAT ARE THEY O
MESSENGER OF ALL AH?' HE (saw)
SAID:

When any gain is shared out only among the rich, with no benefit to the poor;

When a trust becomes a means of making profit;

When paying ZAKKAT becomes a burden;

When voices are raised in the mosque;

When the leader of a people is the worst of
them, when people treat a man with respect because what he may do;

When much wine is drunk;

red wind or the earth swallow them, or to be
transformed into animals.'


'IMRAN IBN HUSAYN SAID:
'THE PROPHET
(ASW) SAID,
'SOME PEOPLE OF THIS UMMAH WILL BE
SWALLOWED BY THE EARTH, TRANSFORMED INTO ANIMALS, AND SOME WILL BE BOMBARDED WITH STONES'.

ONE OF THE MUSLIMS ASKED, WHEN WILL THAT BE O
MESSENGER Of ALLAH?''
HE SAID,

'WHEN SINGERS AND MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS WILL BECOME POPULAR, AND MUCH WINE IS DRUNK.''

THE GREATER SIGNS OF THE HOUR: The Quran will disappear in one night, even from the people's hearts, and no Ayah will be left on earth.

(Some groups of old people will be left who will say: 'We heard of fathers' saying...

'LAILLAHA ILLA ALLAH' so we repeat it);

The appearance of the MAHDI;

The appearance of the DAJJAL (Anti Christ);

The appearance of Ya'juj and Ma'juj(biblical Gog and Magog);

Isa (Jesus) will come during the time of Dajjal;

The rising of the sun from the west;
The destruction of the Ka'aba and the recovery of its treasures; the smoke.


As you look at this article you realize how true the Messenger (P.B.U.H) was, these signs were prophesied 1400 years ago!!!





Peace, am out.


All you just did was to quote the predictions of Mohammed who claim it was revealed to him by God.

Did you know that our great past philosophers (Socrates, Plato, Aristotle) also made bigger predictions? what about Charles dawin? but they didn't claim it God who revealed to them.

Did you know that great men and philosophers also at this century have predicted what will happen 50, 100, 200 centuries to come? but they didn't claimed it God or Allah or whatever revealed to them?


Did u know that I can predict to what will happen in this world in the next century going by the way science and technology are advancing? I can claim it God that told me or not.

Think man think. u are entitled to your beliefs.

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Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by impossible27(m): 7:18pm On Jul 10, 2017
factwriter:



Always retorting to dry humour once cornered beyond extraction. I can imagine how high your jubilation would have been had the "quotes" of these highly rated historical icons been intended as a slander upon Islam. But ney, your (concealed) disappointment knows no bounds...

Do you know why bestseller authors don't worry about piracy much? Because for any intellectual material to be (considered profitable when) pirated, it must have made remarkable sales on the legitimate shelves.

This simple logical reasoning satisfy my curiosity as to why you all (infidels) put your whole life on hold just to concern yourselves with the growth and might of the religion of peace, Islam..., because it's spiritually legit and selling fast.


Try harder next time and see if you will find other "staggering facts" amusing or debilitating.


#saynotoselfillusion.
@ bold let me just take it you are not updated yet. I read an article saying Muslims will outgrew other religion in 2050 and that got me crack up laughing. maybe that what u are using to console yourself.

Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by jcross19: 7:59pm On Jul 10, 2017
factwriter:



Always retorting to dry humour once cornered beyond extraction. I can imagine how high your jubilation would have been had the "quotes" of these highly rated historical icons been intended as a slander upon Islam. But ney, your (concealed) disappointment knows no bounds...

Do you know why bestseller authors don't worry about piracy much? Because for any intellectual material to be (considered profitable when) pirated, it must have made remarkable sales on the legitimate shelves.

This simple logical reasoning satisfy my curiosity as to why you all (infidels) put your whole life on hold just to concern yourselves with the growth and might of the religion of peace, Islam..., because it's spiritually legit and selling fast.

Try harder next time and see if you will find other "staggering facts" amusing or debilitating.


#saynotoselfillusion.
"infidel" indeed . Well I have nothing to say than you are not allow to travel to usa with your terrorist name okay!!!!. Boko haram even on this forum na wah . Boko spotted run for my life.

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Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by factwriter(m): 8:11pm On Jul 10, 2017
impossible27:


All you just did was to quote the predictions of Mohammed who claim it was revealed to him by God.

Did you know that our great past philosophers (Socrates, Plato, Aristotle) also made bigger predictions? what about Charles dawin? but they didn't claim it God who revealed to them.

Did you know that great men and philosophers also at this century have predicted what will happen 50, 100, 200 centuries to come? but they didn't claimed it God or Allah or whatever revealed to them?


Did u know that I can predict to what will happen in this world in the next century going by the way science and technology are advancing? I can claim it God that told me or not.

Think man think. u are entitled to your beliefs.


Thank you for driving home my point.

You see my friend, Mohammed was totally different from these earthly great men you mentioned as regard using using "science and technology to extrapolate" on future outcome of events.

He (Mohammed) was a stake illiterate in every formal sense. He could neither READ nor WRITE!
He has no FORMAL EDUCATIONAL ORIENTATION.

Unlike these earthly great Men who had one opportunity of learning or the other, Men who went through the institutions of knowledge or were apprentice to contemporary scientists of their times.

Men who used the available Socio-sciences and practicable technologies of their era as leverage at making Futuristic thinking.

The earliest of these Men existed about a Thousand years after the era of Mohammed!

For crying out loud don't you get it, all Mohammed must have "genuinely" had was INSPIRATION and REVELATION from the supreme being.

No Gyroscope to inspire his astronomical prophecies, non existence of orthodox practices to aid his ( now modern science proven) correct analysis of stages of human pregnancy, no previous historical records to aid in predicting future war outcomes (because such nations are yet to even come into existence)... I can go on and on and on.

This Man didn't have the leverage of background enlightenment these other earthly great Men had yet he made remarkable and reflective prophecies.

But you wouldn't understand because as a Black man (that I presume you are), it's almost like an abomination for you (even after convincing facts) to accept and publicly acknowledge "light" from a source previously deem as representing darkness.

A white man, regardless of his reservation for Islam, will still likely readily come out to declare Mohammed as the most successful prophet in the history of Mankind, (after a convincing exhaustive research) or openly declares pilgrimage at mecca, Saudi Arabia, as the largest congregation of mankind; as ascertain by established data.

But you my friend, as an African, would consider it a taboo to "eat your vomit".

So I don't expect you to understand lest accept. Just know that it is not about opinion (like you implied in your last line of post), it's about FACTS and TRUTH.




salaam.
Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by factwriter(m): 8:37pm On Jul 10, 2017
jcross19:
"infidel" indeed . Well I have nothing to say than you are not allow to travel to usa with your terrorist name okay!!!!. Boko haram even on this forum na wah . Boko spotted run for my life.


Chill. The only thing i carry inside my (padded) vest is wades and wades and wades of greens.

I don't throw bombs and I don't incinerate people. I am a practising Muslim.

Teachings from my religion has made me Immune to unjust aggravations from secular society and main stream media, alas misguided people (disguised as true Muslims) cannot psych me into violence.

Meanwhile until you lot out there begin to address crime as crime and stop alluring unrelated dastardly events and occurrences to Islam, (thereon successfully entrenching a proactive and preventive counter terrorism measures), the persistent thundering sound of TNT and C4 may remain within us, tormenting our tranquility for a long long time to come.


May God help us all.

#saynototerrorism
#saynotoantagonism
Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by plappville(f): 9:37pm On Jul 10, 2017
factwriter:

1. Leo Tolstoy (1828-1910):
"Islam will rule the world one day, because in it there is a combination of knowledge and wisdom".


2. Herbert Wells (1846-1946):
"Until the effectiveness of Islam again, how many generations will suffer atrocities and life will be cut off, then one day the whole world will be attracted to it, on that day there will be Dilshad and on that day the world will be inhabited.


3. Albert Einstein (1879-1955):
"I understand that the Muslims did it through their own intelligence and awareness which the Jews could not do. In Islam it is the power that can lead to peace".


4. Huston Smith (1919):
"The faith which is upon us and this is better than us in the world, then it is Islam. If we open our hearts and minds for it, then it will be good for us".


5. Michael Nostradamus (1503-1566):
"Islam will be the ruling religion in Europe, but the famous city of Europe will become the Islamic State capital."


6. Bertrand Russell (1872-1970):
"I read Islam and realized that it is to be the religion of all the world and all humanity." Islam will spread throughout Europe and in Europe the big thinkers of Islam will emerge. One day it will come that Islam will be the real stimulus of the world. ".

7. Gosta Lobon (1841-1931):
"Islam only talks about peace and reconciliation. Invite Christians to appreciate the faith of reform."


8. Bernard Shaw (1856-1950):
"The whole world will accept Islam religion one day and if it can not even accept the real name, it will accept it by the name of metaphor." West will accept Islam one day and Islam will be the religion of those who have studied in the world. "


9. Johann Geith (1749-1832):
"We all have to accept Islam religion sooner or later. This is the real religion. If am called a Muslim, I will not feel bad, I accept this right thing."


Source: (As forwarded to me via whatsapp)
The mark of the beast will rule one day. But it will be defeated.
Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by plappville(f): 9:37pm On Jul 10, 2017

“Can I criticize Islam without fearing for my life”?
March 3, 2017 sscontrol
A week after she protested against the “Islamization” of Canada outside of Masjid Toronto Mosque, Sandra Solomon, an ex-Muslim who became a human rights activist, took advantage of the mosque’s open house on Saturday, February 25, 2017 to deliver a direct message to the Imam Ahmed Shihab and the Muslim community.

Police are investigating possible hate crimes by the protesters who called for banning Islam and an imam at the mosque who recited supplications for the annihilation of the enemies of Islam and purification of al-Aqsa Mosque from the “filth of Jews.”

The following is the message that Sandra Solomon read in Masjid Toronto Mosque (February 25, 2017):

My name is Sandra Solomon. I am an ex Muslim who lived in the Saudi Arabian society governed by 100% Sharia law.

I suffered a lot in Saudi Arabia from the teachings of Islam because of the lack of women rights.

I was neglected, ignored and forbidden to sharing my thoughts on Islam to the point where I was always under risk of being murdered by honor killing from my brother, who attempted to kill me just because I refused to wear the hijab [head scarf].

They forced me into a marriage. Islamic forced marriage is nothing less than institutionalized rape. Do not dare to think otherwise.

I took my child and escaped Saudi Arabia because of the imminent threat of my execution for not following Islamic Sharia [Islamic Law] without question and came to Canada for its freedom.

I came to Canada to live under secular and Constitution Democratic system of law. A law that respects me as a free human being that has the right to live and think and be critical of anyone and anything without living in fear for my life and my child’s life .That is why I am in Canada. I am a subject of Canadian law. Not Sharia [Islamic] law.

I am a victim of Islam and it is my duty to warn others of its true nature. But unfortunately Sharia law is not leaving me. I was surprised when I found that it has followed us here to Canada. There are three Canadian imams on Canadian soil calling for my execution. Their names are, Shahryar Shiakh [“Punishment for apostasy is death”], Ahmad Abdul Qader Kandil [who said that enemies of Islam to be killed, crucified or their limbs cut off] and Said Rageah [who said that person who insults Mohammad may face execution in Islamic State]. All three of them in Canada are openly calling for my execution. Relying solely on the teaching of Quran and Hadith plus the book called human right in Islam distributed at Dundas square [“Islamic Shari’ah decrees execution for the person who apostatizes”]. [For more information on “Quebec, Ontario imams say apostates to be executed by The Islamic State” click HERE].

Ladies and gentlemen, criticism of an ideology and political authority is the most important aspect of free democracy. And for this, the imams all call for my death they do so on the Islamic grounds that I speak truths about Islam, its founder, Mohammad, and that I no longer accept the Islamic ideology, all of which are death penalty crimes under Islamic law, and which Islamic States like Iran, Saudi Arabia, The Islamic State, Afghanistan, Pakistan and dozens of more convict and execute. We see it here in Canada when Muslim girls refuse the hijab like the Shafia girls.

I am standing here in your mosque today, asking for you to show me the tolerance you ask of all Canadians. To accept me for whom I am and the free choices I made to be something other than Muslim. My God, is a God of love and mercy. I offer it to you, and ask you for it in return .My criticism of Islam are [sic] of the ideology, the teachings and scriptures. Not any individual Muslim. Criticizing ideology is not just legal in Canada; it’s the foundation of democracy. Whether it is a religious authority, or political, no person, book, or ideas are above criticism and scrutiny.

I want to thank the Mayor of Mississauga Bonnie Crombie for her answer when she comforted me about my concern regarding M-103, when she said to me, “this is Canada. We have one set of laws there is no Sharia law. The beauty of Canada is that we are free to openly criticize anyone and anytime. We have one set of laws and there is no Sharia law in Canada and there will not be Sharia law in Canada.” [click HERE]

When I asked her if I’m I allowed to criticize Islam and Muhammad the founder of Islam without fearing for my life, she said “this is your right. This is Canada “.

Therefore I’m here to ask you the same question. Can I criticize the Quran and Muhammad the founder of Islam, without fearing for my life and my child’s life?

And I would love to get the answer form the Imam [Ahmed Shihab] and it’s really, I’m here with the message of love and peace. I don’t hate Muslims. I’m here to deliver these flowers to you with all respect and I’ll continue my journey in Canada. I have concern about my life and I would love to get an answer from you Muslims to tell me: Am I going to be killed, or my child is going to be killed or harmed by anyway for me openly criticizing Islam? I want to be comforted.

A member of the mosque congregation said to Sandra that she is free to choose her faith emphasizing that her problem is not with Islam but with the Saudi regime.

Sandra Solomon is planning a tour across Canada (click HERE) to tell her personal story and encourage women from all communities to speak up and fight for their right to live free from religious or cultural oppression.

http://voiceofsandrasolomon.com/can-i-criticize-islam-without-fearing-for-my-life/

Follow link for more....
Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by plappville(f): 9:39pm On Jul 10, 2017
toffy333:
Alhamdullilah!
Glory be to he the creator of mankind

May the peace and the blessing of Allah be upon he the messagenger of Allah (MUHAMMAD)

How is the moon God the creator? Are you aware of the Mecca 360 gods? Google is ur friend.
Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by factwriter(m): 9:40pm On Jul 10, 2017
plappville:
The mark of the beast will rule one day. But it will be defeated.

Meaning
Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by impossible27(m): 10:16pm On Jul 10, 2017
factwriter:



Thank you for driving home my point.

You see my friend, Mohammed was totally different from these earthly great men you mentioned as regard using using "science and technology to extrapolate" on future outcome of events.

He (Mohammed) was a stake illiterate in every formal sense. He could neither READ nor WRITE!
He has no FORMAL EDUCATIONAL ORIENTATION.

Unlike these earthly great Men who had one opportunity of learning or the other, Men who went through the institutions of knowledge or were apprentice to contemporary scientists of their times.

Men who used the available Socio-sciences and practicable technologies of their era as leverage at making Futuristic thinking.

The earliest of these Men existed about a Thousand years after the era of Mohammed!

For crying out loud don't you get it, all Mohammed must have "genuinely" had was INSPIRATION and REVELATION from the supreme being.

No Gyroscope to inspire his astronomical prophecies, non existence of orthodox practices to aid his ( now modern science proven) correct analysis of stages of human pregnancy, no previous historical records to aid in predicting future war outcomes (because such nations are yet to even come into existence)... I can go on and on and on.

This Man didn't have the leverage of background enlightenment these other earthly great Men had yet he made remarkable and reflective prophecies.

But you wouldn't understand because as a Black man (that I presume you are), it's almost like an abomination for you (even after convincing facts) to accept and publicly acknowledge "light" from a source previously deem as representing darkness.

A white man, regardless of his reservation for Islam, will still likely readily come out to declare Mohammed as the most successful prophet in the history of Mankind, (after a convincing exhaustive research) or openly declares pilgrimage at mecca, Saudi Arabia, as the largest congregation of mankind; as ascertain by established data.

But you my friend, as an African, would consider it a taboo to "eat your vomit".

So I don't expect you to understand lest accept. Just know that it is not about opinion (like you implied in your last line of post), it's about FACTS and TRUTH.




salaam.
Oh my friend. you still don't get me. OK let me break it up to your level of understanding. There are diffrence between FACT, TRUTH and BELIEF.

fact- /fakt/
noun1.
a thing that is indisputably the case.

True- /tro͞o/
adjective
1. in accordance with fact or reality.
2. accurate or exact.
3. loyal or faithful.
4. honest.

Belief- /bəˈlēf/
noun
1. an acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists.
2. trust, faith, or confidence in someone or something.

Now let break what u wrote up there down.


For Mohammed to have said those predictions without any education are fact and true because it is witnessed when he was saying it. Accepting this fact and truth now is a belief.

For mohamed to claim that allah gave him the vision, that is not a fact because nobody saw the allah that showed mohamed the vision. so one can accept this statment or he can debunk it. that when someone beliefs goes in. But the truth here is that mohamed really said it because of the withneses there

for a white man to come out and declear Mohammed as the most successful man in history is his belief. that not a fact and that not true because another white man can come and declear moses for example as the most successful prophet to mankind. THAT IS THEIR BELIEF. There is nowhere history have stated the most sucessful prophet.

For Saudi Arabia to be the place where the largest congregation of mankind is a fact because no one can debate that because it is true. now i can now put this as one of my beliefs.

In summary. " the truth of something by a person can be a lie by another unless such cases has a fact or both individual has same belief" can u now understand when i said you are entitled to your opinion
Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by factwriter(m): 10:21pm On Jul 10, 2017
plappville:


How is the moon God the creator? Are you aware of the Mecca 360 gods? Google is ur friend.


like seriously?

My problem with folks like you is that you're quick to burrow back into your hole even before the heat is fully on.

Can't you just stick to your Bible and manage the bewilderment that lurks in chapters marked by inconsistencies yet your god of men (pastors) probably kept telling you it's an anti Christ nature to raise questions

Sweet heart you have so much to deal with converting your wishful thinking into realities, so many crane needed to bridge your illusions into practicalities, so many obscurities requiring redefinition in your choice of deity!

...all these burden laying shamelessly unresolved upon your soul yet you could still afford time to take pot shots at Islam

Why do you guys thrive at making jest of other's beliefs while deep inside, you frantically try to revive the hallucination that some dude (of mistaken identity, who died in far away Middle East Isreal, about Two thousand years ago) has exonerated you of your iniquities

Back off before you are ran off. This thread isn't for the faint hearted. Your Jesus loves you, right
Then let's keep it that simple -if you know what's good for you.
Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by factwriter(m): 10:58pm On Jul 10, 2017
impossible27:

Oh my friend. you still don't get me. OK let me break it up to your level of understanding. There are diffrence between FACT, TRUTH and BELIEF.

fact- /fakt/
noun1.
a thing that is indisputably the case.

True- /tro͞o/
adjective
1. in accordance with fact or reality.
2. accurate or exact.
3. loyal or faithful.
4. honest.

Belief- /bəˈlēf/
noun
1. an acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists.
2. trust, faith, or confidence in someone or something.

Now let break what u wrote up there down.


For Mohammed to have said those predictions without any education are fact and true because it is witnessed when he was saying it. Accepting this fact and truth now is a belief.

For mohamed to claim that allah gave him the vision, that is not a fact because nobody saw the allah that showed mohamed the vision. so one can accept this statment or he can debunk it. that when someone beliefs goes in. But the truth here is that mohamed really said it because of the withneses there

for a white man to come out and declear Mohammed as the most successful man in history is his belief. that not a fact and that not true because another white man can come and declear moses for example as the most successful prophet to mankind. THAT IS THEIR BELIEF. There is nowhere history have stated the most sucessful prophet.

For Saudi Arabia to be the place where the largest congregation of mankind is a fact because no one can debate that because it is true. now i can now put this as one of my beliefs.

In summary. " the truth of something by a person can be a lie by another unless such cases has a fact or both individual has same belief" can u now understand when i said you are entitled to your opinion



Don't play "semantics gymnastics" with me, I left that escapist dreamland long, long time ago.

Armchair philosophy won't win you any argument, it may help you to tag (or limp) along in debates but soon enough you will realise that no level of demagoguery can white wash a coloured wall or more fruitlessly, succeed in painting white as black.


Until you are able to squarely confront yourself with REALITIES that validates FACTS and TRUTH, even the Catholic, either as a denomination or a cult (whichever motivated your migration), may cease to be your final destination in your obviously concealed (but now exposed) quest for FACTS about the Truth, the Light and the Way.

Unfortunately i cannot help or entertain you beyond this point.

Best of luck.
Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by factwriter(m): 11:30pm On Jul 10, 2017
plappville:


Follow link for more....


I have read dozens of incoherent trash like this times without number. It's meant for people like you who have either never READ beyond their imagination or (more unfortunately) never ever left or seen beyond your enclave.

During my undergraduate studies in Egypt my course mates and myself regularly visit Saudi Arabia by boat via port saeed. As teenager we were adventurous and mischievous, and back then we did things on both side of the river Nile.

As a full grown adult now more committed in the way of the lord, I don't consider it worthy relating details of our escapades back then... I just want you to know that the Sandra story you posted is trash. Yes, rooster and bull story.

Travel and see, you will learn where true freedom actually exist apart from the fallacy main stream media sells you.

By the way your posted Sandra story remind me of the Otobo vs Suleiman saga.
Dope heads everywhere... scamming innocent public since invention of the printing press.

You know what (who) a dope head is don't you
Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by impossible27(m): 9:32am On Jul 11, 2017
factwriter:




Don't play "semantics gymnastics" with me, I left that escapist dreamland long, long time ago.

Armchair philosophy won't win you any argument, it may help you to tag (or limp) along in debates but soon enough you will realise that no level of demagoguery can white wash a coloured wall or more fruitlessly, succeed in painting white as black.
Thanks. I know that .


Until you are able to squarely confront yourself with REALITIES that validates FACTS and TRUTH, even the Catholic, either as a denomination or a cult (whichever motivated your migration), may cease to be your final destination in your obviously concealed (but now exposed) quest for FACTS about the Truth, the Light and the Way.


Unfortunately i cannot help or entertain you beyond this point.

Best of luck.





Finding the thruth in the real world depends on one determination to seek for what to belive. it can come in diffrent ways. After his findings he belive his result which you can put as his beliefs.

Someone beliving that jesus is God can be diffrent from another who belives in mohamed as a prophet. The only thing can agree on is yes both jesus and mohamed existed on earth which is true and the fact.

Dont worry. I know how i did my findings before being a Catholic as the truth and the way and I know you did yours before being a Muslim. that what matters now
Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by plappville(f): 5:04pm On Jul 11, 2017
factwriter:



Meaning

Islam is the mark of the beast.

Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by plappville(f): 5:06pm On Jul 11, 2017
factwriter:




Don't play "semantics gymnastics" with me, I left that escapist dreamland long, long time ago.

Armchair philosophy won't win you any argument, it may help you to tag (or limp) along in debates but soon enough you will realise that no level of demagoguery can white wash a coloured wall or more fruitlessly, succeed in painting white as black.


Until you are able to squarely confront yourself with REALITIES that validates FACTS and TRUTH, even the Catholic, either as a denomination or a cult (whichever motivated your migration), may cease to be your final destination in your obviously concealed (but now exposed) quest for FACTS about the Truth, the Light and the Way.

Unfortunately i cannot help or entertain you beyond this point.

Best of luck.





Sure, You cannot entertain anyone with your altaqiya tactics.
Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by plappville(f): 5:29pm On Jul 11, 2017
factwriter:



like seriously?

My problem with folks like you is that you're quick to burrow back into your hole even before the heat is fully on.

Can't you just stick to your Bible and manage the bewilderment that lurks in chapters marked by inconsistencies yet your god of men (pastors) probably kept telling you it's an anti Christ nature to raise questions

Sweet heart you have so much to deal with converting your wishful thinking into realities, so many crane needed to bridge your illusions into practicalities, so many obscurities requiring redefinition in your choice of deity!

...all these burden laying shamelessly unresolved upon your soul yet you could still afford time to take pot shots at Islam

Why do you guys thrive at making jest of other's beliefs while deep inside, you frantically try to revive the hallucination that some dude (of mistaken identity, who died in far away Middle East Isreal, about Two thousand years ago) has exonerated you of your iniquities

Back off before you are ran off. This thread isn't for the faint hearted. Your Jesus loves you, right
Then let's keep it that simple -if you know what's good for you.

Why cant you as well stick to your quran? Why do you need Herbert Wells, Johann Geith, Gosta Lobon, Bernard Shaw and others to confirm your prophet and His religion?

Why dont you just stick to the quran? These people told you Islam will rule the world one day, Islam only talks about peace and reconciliation. Invite Christians to appreciate the faith of reform. Etc etc and you agree with theses false claims? Which of these claims are accurate to you? Islam cannot succeed. Islam is gonna be eradicated.
Islam never talk of Peace but war war in all Islamic nations. Shiite and sunny keep suicide bomb each other. Irak, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan just to name a few are bombing themselves each passing day. Where is the peace Islam talks about? Why is there no Peace in muslim nations? Somalia, Sudan are starving to death yet you talk of allah been faithful? Muslims are terrorists yet Ilam talk peace? Are you for real man? If Infidels should behave like animals you will hear of fight and violence in the West each day. Normal people know how to behave themselves whenever Muslims go in the street to display their arrogance.

Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by plappville(f): 5:43pm On Jul 11, 2017
factwriter:



I have read dozens of incoherent trash like this times without number. It's meant for people like you who have either never READ beyond their imagination or (more unfortunately) never ever left or seen beyond your enclave.

During my undergraduate studies in Egypt my course mates and myself regularly visit Saudi Arabia by boat via port saeed. As teenager we were adventurous and mischievous, and back then we did things on both side of the river Nile.

As a full grown adult now more committed in the way of the lord, I don't consider it worthy relating details of our escapades back then... I just want you to know that the Sandra story you posted is trash. Yes, rooster and bull story.

Travel and see, you will learn where true freedom actually exist apart from the fallacy main stream media sells you.

By the way your posted Sandra story remind me of the Otobo vs Suleiman saga.
Dope heads everywhere... scamming innocent public since invention of the printing press.

You know what (who) a dope head is don't you

No you have not really travelled. There is no freedom in The two places you mentioned. Is there freedom is Egypt where Christians get killed for been Christians? Is there freedom in Saudi? Common! Simply because you studied in Egypt and travelled to Saudi mean you have travelled? True freedom is in the West. Ask your fellow muslims who have migrated in the West.

I have travelled to 10 countries. I have seen people with different Cultures and traditions. Dont come here and start bragging because you travelled to Saudi. cheesy

The only thing you people have in your head is behead those who insult Muhammad. Slaughter those who insult islam. Yet you are peaceful angry

You can fool some people not all. wink

Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by plappville(f): 7:31pm On Jul 11, 2017
Dream well cheesy

Re: Quotes Regarding Islam By Some Western Philosophers by factwriter(m): 7:46pm On Jul 11, 2017
plappville:


No you have not really travelled. There is no freedom in The two places you mentioned. Is there freedom is Egypt where Christians get killed for been Christians? Is there freedom in Saudi? Common! Simply because you studied in Egypt and travelled to Saudi mean you have travelled? True freedom is in the West. Ask your fellow muslims who have migrated in the West.

I have travelled to 10 countries. I have seen people with different Cultures and traditions. Dont come here and start bragging because you travelled to Saudi. cheesy

The only thing you people have in your head is behead those who insult Muhammad. Slaughter those who insult islam. Yet you are peaceful angry

You can fool some people not all. wink


As much as I would have love to take you on recount of my Peregrine years, the fact that you have been to ONLY TEN countries (...and probably of concentric, rather than eccentric locations) makes you completely a pond fish when compared to my insatiable quest for global trotting as an unscrupulous adventurer.

Am telling you we were freely doing things in those "lands" yet you argue otherwise based on what Main Stream Media force feed you with.

You used "sponsored protest" as evidence to back your claims of Human Rights stifling, forgetting that the machinery of propaganda has no limitation.

It is not the same Saudi Arabia that Donald Trump visited recently, taking along an American musician to perform

Every nation has their laws, their prohibitions, their values, and more respectable their customs and traditions - regardless of whatever "double standard, hog washed" Human Rights principles sold to you by that western puppet called United Nation.

As Africans (if you are one) we have no moral right to expect other race on the surface of planet earth to lack true historical identity like we do.
We might feel relieved having thrown away our real identity along with the chains that were used to drag us into slavery and back to colonisation - in exchange for "various customised versions" of human rights...

...gleefully accepting ways of life that has no soothing or consideration for our indigenous way of existence.

As African, yes we can continue to wear whatever identity the EU and Western imperialist fabricate for us but expecting others, like the Arabs (in general) and Muslim Arabs (in particular) to play second fiddle like Black Africans always gullibly do - is living a shameful pipe dream.

These people have the right to maintain and live their true originality.

That said, know that things are not as your "dope head" Sandra claims, her kind will only continue to tell you what your already tormented souls want to hear.

That's what her type are paid to do. And by the way I use to shack up with such imbeciles while hiking across Europe with minimal fundings supplemented by stolen America Express and Dinner cards. May Allah forgive me of my errors, mostly those of my juvenile days.

If only it was possible for me to reveal things to you without unveiling my moniker, you will be struck with awe.

Face your scripture and stop being played for the fool. It is all propaganda and political engineering.

Ask yourself, of all the countries in the world with First Class Socio-economy relationship with America, Donald Trump, a sitting president chose the Islamic kingdom of Saudi Arabia as his first place of official visit. Who would have thought the most important nation for august visit would have been Prophet Muhammad's birthplace

Wise up angel, they are playing your kinds, capitalising on your bigoted religious intolerance. Wise up.


No wonder Obama was forcing Gay rights down the throat of a Christian Nigerian president while (ironically), the same Obama and an incumbent US president turned round to appraised a Muslim Nigerian president as being morally upright. Why? Because they recognized and accept a Muslim's will to retain his identity and originality.



...don't even know why I bother to go this far

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