kikake:



Did you not read me write that land mass is never used as a criterion to divide a country onto states or regions or local government councils?


The northern part of Russia is nearly half of the Russian federation by land mass, but that northern Russia does not have up to 1/5 of Russia's political units, like regions or states, and representatives in Russia's Parliament.


Nigeria's states should have been created based on near equal proportions between then three regions -north, southeast and southwest - that entered into independent Nigeria in 1960.

walexbiz:


Why are you people so unfriendly with the truth, yes we know there are desert which densely populated, but are you telling me that Texas is more populated than New York...nah the truth is the southern part of the country is environmentally friendly than the northern part of the country which is becoming arid

senatordave1:

Sir abagworo,i am one of your ardent admirers and followers.i dont want to argue with you based on my fervour towards you but i must.how can all the natives of ekwusigo be 400,000 worldwide when much of its present population is non indigenous and all ibos commonly state that 40 to 50% of ibos are outside their homeland.no place in this world can have more of its native population outside than at home(except israelis,jews) except war torn countries.i will agree with your earlier assertion that anambra and imo have the highest natives only in southern nigeria but that doesnt make the south more populated than the north indigenously or otherwise.kano,katsina,kaduna,borno,niger,bauchi,benue has more natives than anambra.even akwa ibom,oyo,delta,osun,edo,ogun rival anambra and imo

20CRATES:


Population density is a combination of two factors, population and SIZE.
Rwanda has a higher population density than Nigeria but is smaller than Nigeria in population by far, because of its small size Simply put, it is more tightly packed buy contains less people.

In case you don't know Yorubas and Hausas are both more populated than Igbos, but both have more land. The whole South East sef is just about Oyo state size plus small Jara.

joyandfaith:

there is no where in world where deserts will be more populated that tropical rain forest.

asha80:
i dont think you understand igbo migratory patterns

senatordave1:

Please dont misunderstand me not arguing ibo population and migration.but let me add that being ubiquitous and conspicuous doesnt make one the most numerous ethnicity if not the jews and the israelites would be the most numerous groups.meanwhile,i think that the ibos are the 2nd largest tribe in the country

ONYEUTALI:
This is another shameful lie that'll be busted on the faces of the Nigerian elites when Biafra goes. The North will be forced to tell themselves the truth about their population. Right now they're feeding on Southern Tax money claiming they have 70 percent of the Nigerian population.
Which other country in West Africa had more population in the North than in the South? Why was Nigeria's different? Why does International Maps show condensed population in the South and Nigerian Maps does otherwise?
It hurt me to believe ordinary Aboki has been cheating me for 57 years. Where the hell did the Illiterate North get this smartness from?

EazyMoh:

Landmass of the north = 786,754sqrkm
Total landmass of Nigeria= 923,768sqrkm
Therefore landmass of Southern Nigeria =>
923,768sqrkm - 786,754sqrkm = 137,032sqrkm
786,754/137,032 = 5.74
So actually the North is even 5.74 times The south in terms of landmass!
Or do you think everyone is like you people who are comfortable telling lies to the whole world.

senatordave1:

Madam,your beginning to annoy me.didnt i earlier state that there are more immigrants from niger,cameroun,chad,mali than togolese and benin imiigrants and there are mostly in the north? I also postulated that immigrant population is too minor to be factored since our population is mainly made of indigenous nigerians

senatordave1:

Pakistanis have a dispersed settlement,they dwell everywhere not just the fertile areas.stop this your theory of most people dwelling in fertile areas.i have even so called fertile areas like cross river and anambra to show you that even such areas have empty landmass.i have used china,india and pakistan to show you that areas with high birth rates would always have a high population.
In one breathe,you claim that the fulanis graze in the south because the north is a desert.again,you again claimed that the fulanis graze in the south because of more population.do cows eat people or grass? I thought grazing in the south is part of an islamisation agenda as you would later claim in another thread.the north you claim to be a desert and infertile is where most of our agricultural products are cultivated and used our arable south.dont forget that even some forested areas are largely uninhabited like the amazon forest un brazil,hurtgen forest in germany.
Even when the british counted us,the north was found to be more populous.even if they manipulated it,it would still be far more credible than our own figures.its not possible that they would favour muslims against christians like themselves as erroneously believed by southerners.let me also add that they are more ethnicities in the south than in the north

nyben4eva:
I was a supervisor during the 2006 census in Zamfara state,Gummi LGA.What I saw with my eyes really opened my eyes to understand the kind of people Northerners are: liars,greedy,dishonest and absolutely hopeless without oil money.

Local government areas are like grave yards until whenever they hear that allocation has been distributed,they start rushing like bees to suck up the mony without shame.

In my area of supervision,they forced me to inflate the actual figure by 3 and I refused and they had to replace me with someone else.They went as far as creating figures with all their finger prints so as to manipulate and inflate their population.The nomads would move from place to place and kept on getting enumerated.

The South is truely more populated than the North in all ramification and they are the reason for Nigeria's backwardness because they tend to shy away from development.

iKnowevents:


You people and chestbeating, every opportunity, every issue must be twisted for air-bloated boasts. The whole of South-East can be contained in Oyo? Why not the Whole of South-East being the size of Lagos, the one of the smallest state in the federation?

Discussion sine intelligence.

EazyMoh:

See ignorance! I smdh!

Chukazu:


I don't think the issue bothers on population, the problem is a system that focuses on revenue sharing rather than revenue generation

If the "cash cow" oil revenues dries up, those who created states up and down would be forced to marge several states into one, because they are simply not economically viable and we have seen that with the current price fluctuations in crude oil as states are struggling to pay salaries.. So imagine what happens if the oil dries up

As far as population is concerned, there factors you can't wish away.. Like religion, culture and and society.. Eg:

1.how many Igbo men still marry more than one wife?
2.How early does and average Igbo men get married?
But sincerely you can agree that those scenarios are still very much practical in the North and South West, they can still marry multiple wives and have multiple children because culture and traditions allows it, but it's almost alien in the South East

For goodness sake, I don't care who is more populous than me, it doesn't make me less of a person. Just have a system that is equitable for all.. And the Northerners can marry five wives and bear multiple children, it doesn't bother me

senatordave1:

How dare you utter such fallacy? Is benue state a desert? Is it not more fertile than almost all southern states? Kogi,kwara,plateau,taraba,nasarawa,abuja,gombe are not deserts.most part of the north are not deserts.its just that the sahara is encroaching into the northernmost part of states like sokoto,borno,yobe,jigawa,katsina,kaduna,kano,zamfara.many of the creeks and swampy areas of the niger delta are largely uninhabited.the heavily forested area of akamkpa in cross river is sparsely populated.

davidif:


Where you able to read that research paper I posted in the front page?

senatordave1:

How dare you utter such fallacy? Is benue state a desert? Is it not more fertile than almost all southern states? Kogi,kwara,plateau,taraba,nasarawa,abuja,gombe are not deserts.most part of the north are not deserts.its just that the sahara is encroaching into the northernmost part of states like sokoto,borno,yobe,jigawa,katsina,kaduna,kano,zamfara.many of the creeks and swampy areas of the niger delta are largely uninhabited.the heavily forested area of akamkpa in cross river is sparsely populated.

nyben4eva:


No,what's it about?

davidif:


Dude, almost every region does it. It might be convenient to blame the North but this is a nationwide thing.

nyben4eva:
I was a supervisor during the 2006 census in Zamfara state,Gummi LGA.What I saw with my eyes really opened my eyes to understand the kind of people Northerners are: liars,greedy,dishonest and absolutely hopeless without oil money.

Local government areas are like grave yards until whenever they hear that allocation has been distributed,they start rushing like bees to suck up the mony without shame.


In my area of supervision,they forced me to inflate the actual figure by 3 and I refused and they had to replace me with someone else.They went as far as creating figures with all their finger prints so as to manipulate and inflate their population.The nomads would move from place to place and keBypt on getting enumerated.

The South is truely more populated than the North in all ramification and they are the reason for Nigeria's backwardness because they tend to shy away from development.

nyben4eva:
I was a supervisor during the 2006 census in Zamfara state,Gummi LGA.What I saw with my eyes really opened my eyes to understand the kind of people Northerners are: liars,greedy,dishonest and absolutely hopeless without oil money.

Local government areas are like grave yards until whenever they hear that allocation has been distributed,they start rushing like bees to suck up the mony without shame.


In my area of supervision,they forced me to inflate the actual figure by 3 and I refused and they had to replace me with someone else.They went as far as creating figures with all their finger prints so as to manipulate and inflate their population.The nomads would move from place to place and keept on getting enumerated.

The South is truely more populated than the North in all ramification and they are the reason for Nigeria's backwardness because they tend to shy away from development.

Kfed4ril:


I disagree with you on the last part( ethnicity)

redsun:
You need to enter an average Nigerian government office to see how information are kept in 21st century digital age. It still look like something from the dark age or rather not age of human development,with dusty files lying all over the available dusty surfaces,holes on the dusty floors,and obviously no electricity. And if you are unfortunate to want to use the toilet,you will literally step into a dungeon with no electricity, no tissue paper,no antibacterial soap and obviously no water.

A country without a data base can not conduct accurate population census. Even a blind man will know that arid and sparsely inhabited north can be more populated than fertile and densely inhabited south.