OBAGADAFFI: The British-Ijebu war of 1892 (The battle of Imagbon)
The goddess of the Yemoyi river was said to have taken human sacrifice in order to prevent the intruders (British) from crossing. The river was dug deeper by the Ijebus to make it impenetrable by all means for the British army. However, the British army managed to cross the sacred Yemoyi river and unleashed havoc on the Ijebus. They proceeded to the village of Imagbon.
The Ijebus had lost over 900 men while Britain lost only 56 men and have more than 30 wounded.
Ijebu impeding Ibadan from trade and yet they need to ally with the Brits? Who really then was the trade starving Ibadan or the Brits? And if there were so invincible as you claim, why did they need to ally with the Brits?
Now let me tell you about facts, before the Brits, there was the Ekiti war that had Awujale Fidipote to send Balogun Onafowokan to wage war in Ibadan. That particular king was vehemently against the order of things then and wanted what was rightly due to him on his own land. That was how the Kuku name came into prominence. Ijebus were the first to start using arms which gave them an advantage over the rest of Yoruba land which saw even the Ooni send an emissary to Awujale Fusngbuwa when the Owu were pummeling the Ife, not Ibadan that you claim had a stronger military might. It was the Ijebus that help finish off the Owus which is why they are in that part of Ogun state today. The Ooni was about to lose his kingdom and it was the Awujale of that time that made Ifes not to tell sorry tales about what could have befallen their forefathers in time past.
To add to it, it was Balogun Kuku who sold arms to Ibadan and it was his turncoat that saved Ibadan from being pummeled further. It is all in history, please go and read up.
It may interest you to know, Ijebu was immuned through out the various wars that plagued Yorubaland not until the British came. Not Ibadan that was assaulted by the Alaafin and became what it is by the combined efforts of Ijebu,Owu,Egba warriors for it to stand as what it is today. There is even a district in Ibadan that belongs to the Ijebus as a result of the wars and you say they were invincible? Show me a place in Ijebu where any other tribe holds a district in it.
I have the links if you want.
Please oooh share the links! I wanna read up. Thanks man
musicwriter: This's the type of topic that should be on front page to re-educate the highly mis-educated Africans (HMA) who still hold the wrong impression we were all savages killing ourselves in Africa and that it took Europeans to save us from ourselves. This's a true historical account and you can see how Britain used one African tribe to defeat another African tribe. These people had no reason to fight against one another, without the British using them.
The British were later to doctor the true story in the indoctrination called education dropped in their former colonies, and this's how HMA's got this wrong impression we were killing each other in Africa before white people arrived.
Today, you have so called educated people; like, Emir of Kano, who've been going around in conferences, shamelessly telling the whole nation we were killing ourselves and that it took the British to give us peace in Nigeria. What a shame!!. What he don't know is the infightings among African tribes were orchestrated by the same Europeans as a pretext for coming in to "save" us. In fact, that was their strategy for both slave acquisition and colonial domination. They (Europeans) themselves called it divide and rule, and it was a colonial policy they adopted in all their colonies.
Africans, you must stop believing our people were savages killing ourselves before Europeans arrived. Its a huge lie!. It's fabricated tales to justify slavery.
Ijebu impeding Ibadan from trade and yet they need to ally with the Brits? Who really then was the trade starving Ibadan or the Brits? And if there were so invincible as you claim, why did they need to ally with the Brits?
Now let me tell you about facts, before the Brits, there was the Ekiti war that had Awujale Fidipote to send Balogun Onafowokan to wage war in Ibadan. That particular king was vehemently against the order of things then and wanted what was rightly due to him on his own land. That was how the Kuku name came into prominence. Ijebus were the first to start using arms which gave them an advantage over the rest of Yoruba land which saw even the Ooni send an emissary to Awujale Fusngbuwa when the Owu were pummeling the Ife, not Ibadan that you claim had a stronger military might. It was the Ijebus that help finish off the Owus which is why they are in that part of Ogun state today. The Ooni was about to lose his kingdom and it was the Awujale of that time that made Ifes not to tell sorry tales about what could have befallen their forefathers in time past.
To add to it, it was Balogun Kuku who sold arms to Ibadan and it was his turncoat that saved Ibadan from being pummeled further. It is all in history, please go and read up.
It may interest you to know, Ijebu was immuned through out the various wars that plagued Yorubaland not until the British came. Not Ibadan that was assaulted by the Alaafin and became what it is by the combined efforts of Ijebu,Owu,Egba warriors for it to stand as what it is today. There is even a district in Ibadan that belongs to the Ijebus as a result of the wars and you say they were invincible? Show me a place in Ijebu where any other tribe holds a district in it.
I have the links if you want.
you're the fuc.king best!!!!!! Thanks for this piece of history
Professor didn't u read where the article stated they also depended on human sacrifice?
True to form aren't Africans still hunting for human parts for one dumb ritual or the other?
No other race can surpass Europeans in savagery. As late as 1600, Giordano Bruno was burnt to death in Europe, for believing the earth is round, and that it orbited the sun. What makes this act of savagery more civilizing than any similar practice in Africa?
Do you know cannibalism originated in Europe, and that Europeans ate fellow humans openly till the dark ages? What makes this act more civilizing than any similar practice in Africa?
You're free to believe what they want you to believe. Keep your inferiority, but don't pass it to others. If you or anyone else wants to know more about European savagery and Why Europeans Were Able to Conquer Africa And the Rest of the World using their savagery, see http://www.africason.com/2017/09/why-europeans-were-able-to-conquer.html
[quote author=lawani post=60755264]Gwahir A good soldier must know when to hide or when to run, When to surrender etc Moja Mose as the Yoruba Say. That was what ibadan knew. Ijebu Was hindering ibadan access to coastal trade, so ibadan neutralised them by allying with the brits. it was a color and even ethnicity blind arrangement. ijebu can not fight ibadan alone talk less of ibadan and Britain, Then the british showed no interest in colonising the yoruba until the yoruba leaders in the clergy, business and traditional rulership wrote the British to intervene in the civil war and that led to colonrsation. The odu that birthed ibadan is ose meji which means conqueror. [/quoteBitish would still colonise Yoruba land, even if they were not invited. It was a matter of time. Africa had already partitioned and shared by the European powers in the Berlin conference of 1883/1884.
Omoelerin1 Ethiopia was not colonised and if the yoruba had gotten their acts together instead of going into civil war they might have not been colonised for 60 years
No other race can surpass Europeans in savagery. As late as 1543, Nicolaus Copernicus was burnt to death in Europe, for believing the earth is round, and that it orbited the sun. What makes this act of savagery more civilizing than any similar practice in Africa?
Do you know cannibalism originated in Europe, and that Europeans ate fellow humans openly till the dark ages? What makes this act more civilizing than any similar practice in Africa?
You're free to believe what they want you to believe. Keep your inferiority, but don't pass it to others. If you or anyone else wants to know more about European savagery and Why Europeans Were Able to Conquer Africa And the Rest of the World using their savagery, see http://www.africason.com/2017/09/why-europeans-were-able-to-conquer.html
Everyone knows europeans were savages too baba... But number one, they left their savagery themselves... No one told them to.... And with their savagery rhey still were still far advanced than Africans
This is 2017 and Africans are still savages... Take obadeyi for example....
Its not inferiority complex the guy is having, he's talking facts....
Dj Khaled isn't looked at as fat because he has a load money...
A poor white man on their other hand will be looked on as a fat fu.ckeer if he has no money
Take this and relate to the African and european savagery and you will understand why we look at ourselves as savages
lawani: Gwahir A good soldier must know when to hide or when to run, When to surrender etc Moja Mose as the Yoruba Say. That was what ibadan knew. Ijebu Was hindering ibadan access to coastal trade, so ibadan neutralised them by allying with the brits. it was a color and even ethnicity blind arrangement. ijebu can not fight ibadan alone talk less of ibadan and Britain, Then the british showed no interest in colonising the yoruba until the yoruba leaders in the clergy, business and traditional rulership wrote the British to intervene in the civil war and that led to colonrsation. The odu that birthed ibadan is ose meji which means conqueror.
You're right. The ijebus were blocking the ibadans from accessing the sea believing they will be too formidable having sophisticated weapons from the brits
lawani: Omoelerin1 Ethiopia was not colonised and if the yoruba had gotten their acts together instead of going into civil war they might have not been colonised for 60 years
Well, I will agree with you that it might not be too long. I believe they will still annex their political imperialism to hinterland. It was the Berlin conference of 1884 that made the Royal Niger Company handed over southern Nigeria and Niger-Delta to British govt in 1990. Remember, they took over the North by force despite the resistance, they dealt with the sultan of Sokoto and Emir of Kano, before they merged it together with the South in 1914. Colonisation of Nigeria by the colonists was gradual process. Fortunately, colonisation of Ethiopia and Egypt was just brief. They got their independence in the early 20 century.
No other race can surpass Europeans in savagery. As late as 1543, Nicolaus Copernicus was burnt to death in Europe, for believing the earth is round, and that it orbited the sun. What makes this act of savagery more civilizing than any similar practice in Africa?
Do you know cannibalism originated in Europe, and that Europeans ate fellow humans openly till the dark ages? What makes this act more civilizing than any similar practice in Africa?
You're free to believe what they want you to believe. Keep your inferiority, but don't pass it to others. If you or anyone else wants to know more about European savagery and Why Europeans Were Able to Conquer Africa And the Rest of the World using their savagery, see http://www.africason.com/2017/09/why-europeans-were-able-to-conquer.html
Yes, in 11th century Britain, not only did British people practice cannibalism, but also they sold human meat openly in the market as a result of famine.
In fact, as late as 2001, in Germany, a man advertised for anybody willing to be eaten to come to his house. Guess what? Someone replied, went to his house and was eaten!. Of course, this act of savagery would look unbelievable or even civilizing to you because it was done by white man. This's why you must keep your inferiority to yourself and not pass it to others.
Ijebu impeding Ibadan from trade and yet they need to ally with the Brits? Who really then was the trade starving Ibadan or the Brits? And if there were so invincible as you claim, why did they need to ally with the Brits?
Now let me tell you about facts, before the Brits, there was the Ekiti war that had Awujale Fidipote to send Balogun Onafowokan to wage war in Ibadan. That particular king was vehemently against the order of things then and wanted what was rightly due to him on his own land. That was how the Kuku name came into prominence. Ijebus were the first to start using arms which gave them an advantage over the rest of Yoruba land which saw even the Ooni send an emissary to Awujale Fusngbuwa when the Owu were pummeling the Ife, not Ibadan that you claim had a stronger military might. It was the Ijebus that help finish off the Owus which is why they are in that part of Ogun state today. The Ooni was about to lose his kingdom and it was the Awujale of that time that made Ifes not to tell sorry tales about what could have befallen their forefathers in time past.
To add to it, it was Balogun Kuku who sold arms to Ibadan and it was his turncoat that saved Ibadan from being pummeled further. It is all in history, please go and read up.
It may interest you to know, Ijebu was immuned through out the various wars that plagued Yorubaland not until the British came. Not Ibadan that was assaulted by the Alaafin and became what it is by the combined efforts of Ijebu,Owu,Egba warriors for it to stand as what it is today. There is even a district in Ibadan that belongs to the Ijebus as a result of the wars and you say they were invincible? Show me a place in Ijebu where any other tribe holds a district in it.
I have the links if you want.
Ijebu ' ilu to ajeji ki nwo' the land strangers are not allowed.
lawani: Gwahir You know some history but you lack home training on how to get yourself across without insulting people. If you read your history well you will know that ijebu was tributary to ibadan and that ibadan true to the birth odu was never conquered by any army
bros,when was Ibadan established? When did Ibadan get it's first king?
How many people have you seen me insulted to conclude I lack home training? I have only insulted you so far because your submission was an insult however disguised it was.
I know where Ijebu is situated on a map and I am telling you if it weren't for the British and the tuncoat of an Ijebu warrior, Ibadan would have been brought to heel and Ibadan wouldn't have been what it is if it weren't for the combined warriors including that of the Ijebu warriors who sold arms!
Sorry for the insult. You have no idea how deep and far the injury of that war had on the Ijebus and particularly the Awujale of the time.
please email me the different version of this story am a movie producer based in south africa 0813991092
How many people have you seen me insulted to conclude I lack home training? I have only insulted you so far because your submission was an insult however disguised it was.
I know where Ijebu is situated on a map and I am telling you if it weren't for the British and the tuncoat of an Ijebu warrior, Ibadan would have been brought to heel and Ibadan wouldn't have been what it is if it weren't for the combined warriors including that of the Ijebu warriors who sold arms!
Sorry for the insult. You have no idea how deep and far the injury of that war had on the Ijebus and particularly the Awujale of the time.
please email me the different version of this story am a movie producer based in south africa +27813991092 Oderindemotayo@gmail.com
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musicwriter: This's the type of topic that should be on front page to re-educate the highly mis-educated Africans (HMA) who still hold the wrong impression we were all savages killing ourselves in Africa and that it took Europeans to save us from ourselves. This's a true historical account and you can see how Britain used one African tribe to defeat another African tribe. These people had no reason to fight against one another, without the British using them.
The British were later to doctor the true story in the indoctrination called education dropped in their former colonies, and this's how HMA's got this wrong impression we were killing each other in Africa before white people arrived.
Today, you have so called educated people; like, Emir of Kano, who've been going around in conferences, shamelessly telling the whole nation we were killing ourselves and that it took the British to give us peace in Nigeria. What a shame!!. What he don't know is the infightings among African tribes were orchestrated by the same Europeans as a pretext for coming in to "save" us. In fact, that was their strategy for both slave acquisition and colonial domination. They (Europeans) themselves called it divide and rule, and it was a colonial policy they adopted in all their colonies.
Africans, you must stop believing our people were savages killing ourselves before Europeans arrived. Its a huge lie!. It's fabricated tales to justify slavery.
musicwriter: This's the type of topic that should be on front page to re-educate the highly mis-educated Africans (HMA) who still hold the wrong impression we were all savages killing ourselves in Africa and that it took Europeans to save us from ourselves. This's a true historical account and you can see how Britain used one African tribe to defeat another African tribe. These people had no reason to fight against one another, without the British using them.
The British were later to doctor the true story in the indoctrination called education dropped in their former colonies, and this's how HMA's got this wrong impression we were killing each other in Africa before white people arrived.
Today, you have so called educated people; like, Emir of Kano, who've been going around in conferences, shamelessly telling the whole nation we were killing ourselves and that it took the British to give us peace in Nigeria. What a shame!!. What he don't know is the infightings among African tribes were orchestrated by the same Europeans as a pretext for coming in to "save" us. In fact, that was their strategy for both slave acquisition and colonial domination. They (Europeans) themselves called it divide and rule, and it was a colonial policy they adopted in all their colonies.
Africans, you must stop believing our people were savages killing ourselves before Europeans arrived. Its a huge lie!. It's fabricated tales to justify slavery.
TOKUGAWA: Winchester rifle is a comprehensive term describing a series of lever-action repeating rifles manufactured by the Winchester Repeating Arms Company. Developed from the 1860 Henry rifle, Winchester rifles were among the earliest repeaters.
irynterri: the emir is kind of right though, that was the story of Hausa land,they kept fighting each other for centuries
In history, you have to put it in "time" to be able to show they were doing so before external influence. The first Europeans (Portuguese) arrived Lagos in 1425 or thereabout. And afterwards Europeans generally began establishing trading posts in other coastal cities across Africa.
All you have to do is ask the Emir or tell me the period these wars happened before the early 1400's when Europeans arrived.
You also have to tell me what weapons were invented during the so called wars, because weapons of war are mandatorily built during wars. Example; in the short period of the Nigeria-Biafra civil war 1967-1970; Biafra built so many weapons, among them a weapon called "Ogbunigwe", translated in English as "mass killer". Let me know what weapons built across Nigeria and Africa during our wars. I need to see the museums those weapons are heaped.
